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There was a dreadful outbreak of men wearing short trousers at "our" regular session last night.
I know the temperature here in London is currently (and hopefully briefly) very high ~32 degrees Centigrade (over 80 in old money) but that is no excuse for having to make fellow sessioneers sit in close proximity of naked male legs. Yuck!
Surely session etiquette requires proper grown up trousers for men in any conditions.
At least the worst of the horrid summer is over (i.e. pot solstice, the nights are drawing in and the autumn is on its way- roll on October)...If only scientists, curry shop owners, parrot shavers or 'bus drivers could make the seasons go spring, autumn, winter, spring, autumn, winter (plus then we wouldn't have to tolerate the yearly summertime inconvenience that is that of batting small rubber balls about at the other end of the borough that draws so much attention from millions of visitors)
Bah Humbug...

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by yhaalhouse

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pot= post

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by yhaalhouse

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HA! Don't ever go someplace that's warm all the time, you'll have a nervous breakdown, apparently. In Florida we wear shorts nearly year round!

We have a very relaxed dress code. Jacket and tie is not required, women need not wear dresses, etc.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by SWFL Fiddler

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If men in shorts is the most grievious offense you must endure at your sessions, you are indeed a fortunate man.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by RogueFiddler

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It could be worse. I'd rather have shorts than kilts at a session.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by skreech

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Eh!, what do the women be wearing then, SWFL?? :)

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by the wounded hussar

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I rather like The Pot Solstice as a moniker for the summer one / Glastonbury / Stonehenge et cetera.

Shorts were presumably alien to the brutal climatic conditions of Ireland and NE America where the Little Ice Age and the creation of ITM concurred. But so were curry, barbies and half-way decent Continental lager. Beware the revanchist trad police, they might remove the babes and leave you with the dishwater...

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by nicholas

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It's the varicose veins that does it for me. All those blue lines running through a sea of hair reminds me of a map of the Black Forest.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by Free Reed

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If Yhaalhouse doesn't like seeing men wearing shorts, he needs to avoid visiting Arkansas during the summer as well as Florida. Actually, considering how hot and humid the summers are here in Arkansas, I would recommend that you try to visit anytime of the year except for the summer.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by fauxcelt

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You be welcome Yhaalhouse, to wear your woolen trousers at out session. We'll be sure to have paramedics on hand when you pass out by the third set.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by Jusa Nutter Eejit

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"at our session"

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by Jusa Nutter Eejit

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swooning at 32 degrees! Interesting to see what happens at 45 or so. Now that's a summer!

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by duij

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I wear shorts for everything except weddings (which I try to not go to) and funerals between March and October. If you have the legs, flaunt 'em, say I.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by Steve Shaw

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NO KILTS!?!? What the feck?!?!? That means no more groupies at sessions :(

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by RogueFiddler

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I don't mind the shorts, as long as the gentlemen remember that the view may be something less than....pleasant... for those of us sitting across the circle. Baggy shorts + boxers = wardrobe malfunction. Same goes for the utilikilt crowd. Sit like a lady.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by Batlady

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no more gropies at sessions . . .

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by showaddydadito

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Batlady—you make an excellent point.

But ya gotta love a thread about men in shorts that in its beginning statement contains the phrase "batting small rubber balls about."

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by NEW Pure Drop® Ear Canal Oil

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Swooning at 32 degrees...dujera, in lowland Pommyland those temperatures can be disagreeable because the air tends to get very humid and sticky and full of fumes / pollen / other kinds of cr*p, before it all ends in thunderstorms and flash floods.

32 or even 45 degrees in Oz may be altogether fresher, airier and more agreeable for all I know; or else you endure them with more fortitude.

(The UK record temperature, quite recent, was 101.3 degrees Fahrenheit, which I think is around 37 Celsius.)

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by nicholas

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"small rubber balls"

Snort**
Exactly.....

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by Batlady

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This afternoon the temperature in my garden in Bristol, as measured by a minimax thermometer on a north-facing wall, rose to an agreeable 43C (109F). In recent days I've seen 40 and 41. When I was walking home from the session last night at 11:30 it was a comfortable 20C (70F) - definitely tee-shirt weather, even at that time of night. But I was wearing long trousers, as befits those who attend English sessions.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by lazyhound

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Not that different in Oz, nicholas, but depends where you are. Don't forget Australia has a huge range of climate zones, from heavy tropics, subtropics, temperate, mediterranean, and some parts a bit like lowland pommyland as you say - except no one wants to live in those parts. ;-)
So there is very heavy humidity to desert dry and everything in between. Huge thunderstorms and floods probably bigger than the size of Britain too, especially in those volatile summer months.
The difference I think is that the whole scale is higher in Australia so you can get many weeks well above 35 degrees for example, spiking into the 40s for days on end as well, so eventually you get used to it, although you mightn't like it. Many do. You only notice this sort of acclimatisation though when you go to England or Ireland for example and see people passing out at 30 degrees.
But you're right, extreme heat is more tolerable when the air isn't humid.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by duij

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what is particularly annoying though is that when it rains for days on end (which isn't that common), those big pesky spiders crawl into your house to get away from the water.
No good if you're walking around the house in the middle of the night and step on one, or they fall from the ceiling into your cereal bowl in the morning, or are hiding in your sheets when you go to bed.
And you thought the heat was bad!

Then there's the snakes! They really like the heat.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by duij

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Actually, among the hottest places I know of, are the interiors of crowded pubs in Ireland - holy dooley they can be hot! I had to go outside of them for the most part last time there, and it was only in March!
It's all the other way around here - if it's hot outside here, you fall into an air-conditioned pub like a many dying of thirst in the desert. Over there, when you open the door of the pub to go in, you get hit with this blast of hot air. Totally fogs up your glasses as well, which makes you look like a complete bollox when you go in, and then start bumping into people because you can't see anything, whether you leave your glasses on or not.
I think I'd rather settle for the spiders and snakes.;-)

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by duij

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In fairness, I don't know about English pubs. I never go to England. Went there once decades ago. Yep.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by duij

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Dubh, we got that same problem, the dreaded glasses fogging up effect from hot and humid to frigid AC.

Hussar, they're not required to wear dresses. Come ot think of it, they're not required to wear anything at all if they insist.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by SWFL Fiddler

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Oh, and another thing.

Why is everyone checking out everybody else’s legs and crotches while they’re playing music? A little smile and eye contact would do just fine before you go right to the staring at ‘the parts’, maybe dinner and a movie, you know, try a little romance first. Sheesh.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by SWFL Fiddler

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SWFL—I believe you're forgetting how incredibly erotic this ITM stuff truly is.

It's widely known that before taking the stage King of Soul James Brown would listen to scratchy old Michael Coleman 78s, hoping to get himself feeling raunchy and/or funky enough.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by NEW Pure Drop® Ear Canal Oil

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I agree with NPDECO about the music but not sure about the shorts being erotic
If I go to the session on friday and Thug and Captain Bpart are wearing shorts I will feel ill.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by bazouki dave

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Teehee.

Captain Bpart would go camping before he dared to put on shorts!

Dujiera, was it those Huntsman spiders that would fall into your cereal bowl? Eeek. I'd rather a bunch of musos in shorts than one of those swimming around in a bowl of cornflakes.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by TheSilverSpear

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Has anyone ever tried playing uilleann pipes in a dress (or a kilt?).

It sucks.

No, not like that. Get your mind out of the gutter!

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by TheSilverSpear

Hots

Well I have seen a female Uillian Piper playing in a skirt on more than one occasion and it looked fine to me .

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by bazouki dave

Although I once saw a Northumbrian piper play in a dress but I did not think the latex suited him

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by bazouki dave

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How do you know he was wearing latex, dare I ask?

(BTW, wasn't me in the skirt. I've never ever worn one in the Cumberland)

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by TheSilverSpear

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He was well known for wearing such apparel..

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by bazouki dave

very good piper though

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by bazouki dave

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Who was he, then?

Not that I want his number or anything.

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by nicholas

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Hee hee! "So lassie, maybe you can come back to my place later and help me straighten out my hornpipe..."

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by SWFL Fiddler

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dude - your slip jig's showing...

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by airport

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reely?

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by bazouki dave

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There's a lot to be said for a good pair of y-fronts.
Not so much for a pair of boxers.....

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by Guernsey Pete

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you should see my collection of Calvin's _ they've got to be worth a fortune

# Posted on July 1st 2009 by lisaniska

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if the aforementioned latex piper is heavily tatooed it's probably Adrian, who appears from time to time at local sessions. He is a gifted musician but has poor taste in hosiery. He lives somewhere in the greater manchester area and has his own website but sadly I've not got his site address,

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by millionyears_bc

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it took many episodes of "Are You Being Served?" before I figured out what the term "y fronts" means. We're not quite so graphic here in the USA, I suppose.

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by Greg the Piano Tuner

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Yes, silver, the huntsman is the one I was talking about.
This is the huntsman, they're not bad really, pretty harmless, just look scary in your cereal bowl:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~pterren/Spider_Dads_hand.JPG

These are the suckers you don't want to get near though, funnel web spiders:

http://www.wannasurf.com/community/components/com_joomlaboard/uploaded/images/funnel_web_spider.jpg

Always check your shorts before pulling them on, either of these two in their, you'll know about otherwise.
Cheers.

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by duij

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Y-fronts are poor session garb for the bigger lad, just as they are poor garb for driving long distances. They're about as useful as one-size-too-small pyjama bottoms on a very hot and restless night. To misquote the immortal Jim Royle, "These bloody underpants cost me a quid and fifty pence worth of 'em's up me arse."

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by Steve Shaw

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I think it'd be great, if we could all dress like this at Irish Sessions .... all the time!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Vrd-xcoRD6w/SkqAJPXnP3I/AAAAAAAAAGU/1Kk2kVFgevM/s1600-h/3477235035_39791c52e5.jpg

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by Ptarmigan

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I'm surprised no-one's mentioned socks and sandals...is that just a British fashion statement?

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by disillusioned

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Sandals are fine, but sox 'n' sandals? Would you pour custard over your sausages?

Ptarmigan's pic demonstrates a potential hazard of short-wearing, or rather how the hazard can be overcome. If someone takes your photo you are in danger of being a victim of the "crotch-shot." The guy facing us (is he a harmonicist I ask myself?) is having to sit in a demure, ladylike way. He must be wondering if the game's worth the candle.

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by Steve Shaw

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As has already been said shorts are big in Oz. Also sarongs. Rugby shorts can be a problem though.

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by bigyabby

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If they start showing up like this, you could have a problem:

http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6386991,00.jpg

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by duij

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i wonder if someone somewhere will start a series of short singing sessions for short sighted socialogists in smart saffron shorts?

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by lisaniska

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New balls please!!! Ah, middle England, cheering on the inevitable. He's British when he wins and Scots when he looses!!!!
Short shorts = fall out, last chicken in Sainsbury's,
its hot and sticky here in Dub-land and the guy opposite me in session last night was sweating profusely with what must have been crotch-rot as he was constantly tuning the hairy banjo in his cut-offs. Nearly put me aff me pint!

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by iwerzon

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Not as bad as session sweaty-arse, which well-ventilated cotton shorts can help to alleviate.

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by Steve Shaw

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If we are going to get all uppity about naked mens legs, the n we should adopt a standard uniform like our orchestral counterparts- Tuxes, starched white shirts, and the ladies in black gowns.

jeez

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by zippydw

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"naked mens legs" or "men´s naked legs" ?
Surely it hasn´t got THAT hot at sessions over there in Beverly, Zippy ? :-)

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by murfbox

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I'm going to be lurking here until the subject gets above the waist once again.

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by Greg the Piano Tuner

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I wondered how long it would take before O'Boobigan's popped up again . . .

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by Sugarfoot Jack

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Maybe we should all return to the old skool attire of white shirt, nnondescript neck tie, roll up fag, short back & sides haircut with a Brylcreemed down parting like Adolf, battered suit and a flat cap (like wot all those old pictures look like).

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by yhaalhouse

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Yeah, but you've got to make sure you play like them, as well.

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by lazyhound

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Nah, they'll end up going back to this in pommyland:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EXRPxC-5bE

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by duij

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I look pretty good in a Speedo


NOT!!

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by Lint - upon - Tweed

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ok murfbox.

While I chuckled that your astute observation of my syntax abuse, which Herself the English teacher has ridiculed me mercilessly now for 35 or so years, the thought of Kevin Henry's players in that state was an almost unimaginable image.

Me in that state would be patently ridiculous. AndAs a former lifeguard and swimmer, I always thought I looked great-even sveldte- in a speedo. Herself made be get rid of mine about 20 years ago claiming I was embarassing her and the daughters on the Beaches of Michigan.

When I threatened to get a new pair of speedos recently for 'old times sake' all she did was laugh!

;-)

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by zippydw

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Give my best regards to Kevin Henry if you see him.
A living legend !

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by murfbox

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that whole "pair of pants" thing is so confusing - luckily I found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pair_of_pants

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by airport

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I agree above Kevins Music but his dress sence ...........I suppose for someone who is colour blind its ok .
A great character and I hope he is well.

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by bazouki dave

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"Give my best regards to Kevin Henry if you see him.
A living legend!"

Or, if he's wearing shorts, two living leg ends.

# Posted on July 2nd 2009 by Steve Shaw

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"Surely session etiquette requires proper grown up trousers for men in any conditions."

This has to be the WEIRDEST, most inane thing I've ever read on the mustard board.

# Posted on July 3rd 2009 by gw

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I haven't got any grown-up trousers for a start.

# Posted on July 3rd 2009 by Steve Shaw

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yellow yellow yellow

# Posted on July 3rd 2009 by lisaniska

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"Surely session etiquette requires proper grown up trousers for men in any conditions."

What condition would a man have to be in, so that he doesn't have to wear grown up trousers then? There's always ways around the rules, I reckon.

# Posted on July 3rd 2009 by duij

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Sandals and socks is perhaps the worst combination of all ;)

# Posted on July 3rd 2009 by houlberg

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Shorts/Longs, who cares as long as they are not 'light coloured' and having returned from the loo you find it's your turn to stand up to the mike and perform............As HRH would say "What should one do in such circumstances"?

# Posted on July 3rd 2009 by Free Reed

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Easy. Once you've realised that you've wibbled yourself, just throw a splash or two of water from the tap all up and down your front. Go back into the session complaining loudly about how the bloody water pressure is so high the tap spurts as soon as you merely touch it. They'll all believe you.

# Posted on July 3rd 2009 by Steve Shaw

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Right all together now....you lying git!.......You p....d yourself.

# Posted on July 3rd 2009 by Free Reed

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:-D

# Posted on July 4th 2009 by Steve Shaw

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This is a really Long discussion on Shorts.

# Posted on July 4th 2009 by fauxcelt

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okay then, let's switch to a short discussion on Long Johns

# Posted on July 4th 2009 by lisaniska

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Since it's not acceptable for grown men to wear shorts at sessions, I propose that all the grown men attending sessions wear Speedos...and only Speedos.

Ramblingpitchfork, I fully expect to see this put into practice when I return to the Weedge. :)

# Posted on July 4th 2009 by TheSilverSpear

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The mere thought is beyond imagination.......

# Posted on July 4th 2009 by disillusioned

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My wife is Mean.....she won't let me wear Speedos--but she will let me wear shorts.

# Posted on July 4th 2009 by fauxcelt

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Many of the concerns voiced here would be obviated if gentlemen at sessions were to consider the advice given some years ago by an HRH to his son, the Heir to the Throne, which was, when in public never to let his gaze drop below the face of the person he is talking to otherwise as sure as fate a camera will click.

# Posted on July 5th 2009 by lazyhound

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what throne is that then? Hereabouts outdoor dunnys are known as thrones.

# Posted on July 5th 2009 by duij

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