Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
The "little squiggle" is the symbol for a roll, or it should be. The best advice would be to listen to a recording of someone playing the tune properly to see how that should sound. I can't play the box so can't advise how to do a roll on it.
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
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he squiggle indicates ornaments are/can be played here. depending on your chosen instrument.
Untill you can play a roll or triplet/cut etc just play them as plain notes.
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
The most common form of roll would be one on three equal notes of the same value. For example on the sheet music you might see 3 G quavers in a row. I would normally, rather than playing them straight play a roll where, on the whistle, you play the initial note, a G, followed by a cut and then the note (g) and then a tap and then the note (g). This is all done within the space of the 3 notes. Various players will emphasise a roll in different ways depending on their own style. I was taught to hold the first note longer and do the roll towards the end of the group of 3 notes. Others will play it more evenly.
The music does not need to be written out with three notes though. It could be written with one note that is 3 times the length, a dotted crotchet. As you play the music more you will learn where you are meant to add a roll. The point is that often in the written down music you will see those squiggles above notes (usually dotted crotchets). As said above this means a roll.
I could go into how I would do a roll on the whistle but as you are learning the box that would be pointless. The point llig was making above, which I agree with, is that if you are trying to learn the music in isolation and from manuscript then you are, more than likely, on to a loser. You say you play in sessions so you would be best placed to ask people in those sessions what they do. If you can find a tutor then even better. The most important thing is to listen and, as much as possible, try to learn the music by ear as this will greatly assist your understanding of it.
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
Oh and also don't just ignore ornamentation until you mysteriously suddenly acquire it later as some on here might suggest. Pick tunes to learn that appeal to you but that also help you develop your technique and introduce you to rolls and ornamentation. For rolls a good jig in G would be The Legacy Jig.
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
I would suggest looking at some Cape Breton and Scottish tunes for ornamentation if you really want to hone those skills. Not because you can't find lots of Irish tunes with ornamentation, but because the former tend to be inundated with them, comparably. Strathspeys and marches like the 91st at Modder Station or the Highland Classic can give you a lot of practice with those "squiggles".
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
I play a roll on the fiddle as 5 notes: the indicated note, one above, the note again, one below, the note again. All in a single bow stroke. Quickly, usually in the time of a half note.
How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
In many Irish tunes I have seen there is a little squiggle above some of the notes - how should one play them?
# Posted on June 10th 2009 by Keithypete.
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
You've "seen" the little squiggle?
Well there you go, you've answered your problem yourself.
# Posted on June 10th 2009 by ...
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
I play them with a roll.
# Posted on June 10th 2009 by pipersgrip
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
Ligg has niggles
About viewing squiggles!
And dots or staves
This is something against which he frequently raves!
# Posted on June 10th 2009 by RichardB
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
The "little squiggle" is the symbol for a roll, or it should be. The best advice would be to listen to a recording of someone playing the tune properly to see how that should sound. I can't play the box so can't advise how to do a roll on it.
# Posted on June 10th 2009 by No Cause For Alarm
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
Nothing of any real help so far. How does one play the roll Whistle collector?
# Posted on June 10th 2009 by Keithypete.
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
You can witness Billy McComiskey's right hand playing squiggles here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T443X7tN7ks. I couldn't help you with "how" though!
# Posted on June 10th 2009 by RichardB
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
T
he squiggle indicates ornaments are/can be played here. depending on your chosen instrument.
Untill you can play a roll or triplet/cut etc just play them as plain notes.
# Posted on June 10th 2009 by piobagusfidil
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
The most common form of roll would be one on three equal notes of the same value. For example on the sheet music you might see 3 G quavers in a row. I would normally, rather than playing them straight play a roll where, on the whistle, you play the initial note, a G, followed by a cut and then the note (g) and then a tap and then the note (g). This is all done within the space of the 3 notes. Various players will emphasise a roll in different ways depending on their own style. I was taught to hold the first note longer and do the roll towards the end of the group of 3 notes. Others will play it more evenly.
The music does not need to be written out with three notes though. It could be written with one note that is 3 times the length, a dotted crotchet. As you play the music more you will learn where you are meant to add a roll. The point is that often in the written down music you will see those squiggles above notes (usually dotted crotchets). As said above this means a roll.
I could go into how I would do a roll on the whistle but as you are learning the box that would be pointless. The point llig was making above, which I agree with, is that if you are trying to learn the music in isolation and from manuscript then you are, more than likely, on to a loser. You say you play in sessions so you would be best placed to ask people in those sessions what they do. If you can find a tutor then even better. The most important thing is to listen and, as much as possible, try to learn the music by ear as this will greatly assist your understanding of it.
# Posted on June 10th 2009 by No Cause For Alarm
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
Oh and also don't just ignore ornamentation until you mysteriously suddenly acquire it later as some on here might suggest. Pick tunes to learn that appeal to you but that also help you develop your technique and introduce you to rolls and ornamentation. For rolls a good jig in G would be The Legacy Jig.
# Posted on June 10th 2009 by No Cause For Alarm
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
The squiggle means get the bodhran player to give an extra big bash
and shout "hup".
# Posted on June 11th 2009 by Hup
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
I would suggest looking at some Cape Breton and Scottish tunes for ornamentation if you really want to hone those skills. Not because you can't find lots of Irish tunes with ornamentation, but because the former tend to be inundated with them, comparably. Strathspeys and marches like the 91st at Modder Station or the Highland Classic can give you a lot of practice with those "squiggles".
# Posted on June 11th 2009 by Fiddlechick7
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
It means that you do a roll.
Don't assume otherwise, I know that I (along with some others) am right.
# Posted on June 11th 2009 by Power27
Re: How to play the note(s) with the little squiggle above?
I play a roll on the fiddle as 5 notes: the indicated note, one above, the note again, one below, the note again. All in a single bow stroke. Quickly, usually in the time of a half note.
# Posted on June 11th 2009 by jgaughan