I have been thinking about phrasing a lot as you can read from my recent posts, and was I wondering how many of you are leaning into the bow to produce more feeling in sounds you get?
I notice it seems to create a range of extra emotion in your playing when you start getting the hang of it.
Also be careful not to analyze too much, It is OK to say to yourself, 'Yes, that was the sound I wanted, and I think I did it by A B or C,' but not, 'If I do A B or C I will get this sound.' The best music always sneaks out while you are not watching what you are doing.
Good remark there, that's actually how I came across it in the first place just by trying to get more feel into my playing, speed is great but nice when you have different effects giving you differents results.
Funny, but all of the best fiddlers I've ever talked to about this stuff can explain in remarkable, specific detail how they get the sounds they do. I don't think it's "over analyzing." Simply being ***aware.***
On the other hand, I run into lots and lots of fiddlers whose playing is stale and predictable because they have so few chops, so few options for varying their sound and being expressive. And when I talk with them about anything remotely to do with technique or "how to," their answers are almost always "I don't think about that much."
Of course, when you're actually playing, after you've internalized the skills, you don't think "I'll do this technique to make it sound this way." That's the point of internalizing the skills--you hear a sound in your head, and your hands do whatever they need to do to draw the sound out of your fiddle.
HA! Will, it's a great talent and you do it well. You've inspired me to try to be more descriptive and analytical in what I do, and it's certainly a benefit to my playing.
All right, enough with the mushy stuff. Bring on the craic.
Leaning on/into bow for sound/feeling
Leaning on/into bow for sound/feeling
I have been thinking about phrasing a lot as you can read from my recent posts, and was I wondering how many of you are leaning into the bow to produce more feeling in sounds you get?
I notice it seems to create a range of extra emotion in your playing when you start getting the hang of it.
# Posted on May 18th 2009 by Shylock
Re: Leaning on/into bow for sound/feeling
Be careful not to increase the pressure too much though. Most of it comes from extra speed of the bow, not pressure
# Posted on May 18th 2009 by llig leahcim
Re: Leaning on/into bow for sound/feeling
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/1090
# Posted on May 18th 2009 by Henk Bos
Re: Leaning on/into bow for sound/feeling
Also be careful not to analyze too much, It is OK to say to yourself, 'Yes, that was the sound I wanted, and I think I did it by A B or C,' but not, 'If I do A B or C I will get this sound.' The best music always sneaks out while you are not watching what you are doing.
# Posted on May 18th 2009 by gam
Re: Leaning on/into bow for sound/feeling
Gam,
Good remark there, that's actually how I came across it in the first place just by trying to get more feel into my playing, speed is great but nice when you have different effects giving you differents results.
Thanks guys
# Posted on May 18th 2009 by Shylock
Re: Leaning on/into bow for sound/feeling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_flqxFuNM4
Thought id gratuitously put this link in. Class stuff.
# Posted on May 18th 2009 by the wicked hacker
Re: Leaning on/into bow for sound/feeling
Funny, but all of the best fiddlers I've ever talked to about this stuff can explain in remarkable, specific detail how they get the sounds they do. I don't think it's "over analyzing." Simply being ***aware.***
On the other hand, I run into lots and lots of fiddlers whose playing is stale and predictable because they have so few chops, so few options for varying their sound and being expressive. And when I talk with them about anything remotely to do with technique or "how to," their answers are almost always "I don't think about that much."
Of course, when you're actually playing, after you've internalized the skills, you don't think "I'll do this technique to make it sound this way." That's the point of internalizing the skills--you hear a sound in your head, and your hands do whatever they need to do to draw the sound out of your fiddle.
# Posted on May 18th 2009 by Miss Lonelyhearts
Re: Leaning on/into bow for sound/feeling
Ah Will, I do believe you have internalized the skill of explaining and analyzing technique!
# Posted on May 18th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Leaning on/into bow for sound/feeling
D'oh!
No doubt years of writing "creative non-fiction" have led me down this path. Astray, some would say. But it sure helps in my job as a music coach.....
# Posted on May 18th 2009 by Miss Lonelyhearts
Re: Leaning on/into bow for sound/feeling
HA! Will, it's a great talent and you do it well. You've inspired me to try to be more descriptive and analytical in what I do, and it's certainly a benefit to my playing.
All right, enough with the mushy stuff. Bring on the craic.
# Posted on May 19th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Leaning on/into bow for sound/feeling
Good stuff as always Will, you always have a clear cut answer which gives me lots of insights ........thanks again
# Posted on May 20th 2009 by Shylock