Hiya,
I'm looking for OLD Scottish tunes. I know that most Scottish tunes are old, but I'm sure there are Even older tunes which are rarely heard, or not well known.???
Thanks for your help!
Here's a link that might help you : http://www.scotlandsmusic.com/
they re-issued in 2002 a book of scores first published in 1788 :
"A collection of strathspeys, reels, etc. by Malcolm McDonald"
Taigh na Teud publish a lot in scottish music, old and new...
you can also have à look at the RSCDS publications (on this site you'll get some allergic reaction on RSCDS, but they have good tunes, and a lot afo ancient ones !)
there's also this link :
www.footstompin.com/collections/books/kerrs-collections - 66k
No, more like the flu with a rash from too much bleach and starch... Fortunately it's not a pan-demic, though the influences are worldwide, kilts to the West of us, Kilts to the East of us, Kilts to the North and South of us, but fortunately they mostly keep to themselves in little pockets... Nice folk but badly deluded and generally suffering aches and pains from the strain and seriousness of it all, especially in the musculature around the mouth, all that forced gurning...
Yes, lovely music, dance and history ~ and don't forget these folks ~
Fiddle Girl - There are plenty of old Scottish tunes in ABC compilations. For example there's the The Simon Fraser ABC Collection - "170 tunes from "Airs and Melodies Peculiar to the Highlands and The Isles" by Captain Simon Fraser 1816, 166 tunes from The Skye Collection by Keith N. MacDonald, 1887, 40 tunes from Bremner's Collections (1757-1762). These are great to explore - I'll send you copies if you tell me where to send them (you need ABC Navigator to open them)
There was another link I was trying to chase up which featured a history of the old collections and collectors. I can't seem to get that link to work or find an alternative either?
My personal favourite, is a tune with the odd name "Hei Tutti Tatti". The transcript from one of the programmes available through the above link says the following:
"On which nationalistic note, I shall end with Scots
Wha Hae wi’ Wallace bled – well, not quite. This is Hei Tutti tatti, the original tune that Robert
Burns used and which is supposed to have been played at Bannockburn when Scotland finally
secured its independence."
So, is 1314 old enough for you!
Incidently, I also think it's a far superior tune to "Scots Wha Hae". There are also various other Scottish and Irish tunes probably derived from this "original" tune.
But there are many more old (more interesting) collections available - especially if you want less hackneyed material (oops!!! The Banchory Strathspey and Reel Society will be putting out an APB for me!).....
There's tons on that Scott Skinner site, much of it hidden away in dusty corners... There's even the early dance manuals and handwritten manuscripts. I love that site...
there's a tune called 'ruffian's rant' that i heard on a recording of elke baker's called, i think, _over the border_, that i thought was a good player's intro to scottish strathspey/rant, dotted style. the aly bain/phil cunningham jewel recordings are a great source of tunes, though i can't swear to their utter antiquity.
I'd look at Cape Breton music, where a lot of old Scottish tunes (especially for the fiddle and not the pipes)are still common currency (e.g. the 'Burnt Leg' - not a hint of pipe mode there...)
A superb scholarly collection of Scottish music from Renaissance sources can be found in:
Musica Britannica vol. 15: Music of Scotland 1500–1700. ed. Kenneth Elliott (1957)
It’s available from the publisher here: http://www.stainer.co.uk/acatalog/mb1.html
An excellent CD from The Baltimore Consort – “On the Banks of Helicon: Early Music of Scotland” includes music from this volume.
A book with some unusual music from the century leading up to the great Strathspey composers William Marshall and Neil Gow is:
Scottish Fiddle Music of the Eighteenth Century: A Music Collection and Historical Study, by David Johnson.
This book contains a mere 90 tunes from the generations before Neil Gow. Some of these tunes include variations, and many tunes show the influence of the Baroque.
The Airs and Melodies Peculiar to the Highlands of Scotland and the Isles, ed. Simon Fraser, (commonly known as The Fraser Collection) .This collection includes many song airs and marches from the period of the Jacobite rebellions of 1715 and 1745, as well as some unusual strathspeys and reels.
Two important and famous 19th century collections (both influential on Cape Breton fiddling) are these:
The Skye Collection, by Keith Norman Mac Donald(1887) &
The Athole Collection, by James Stewart Robertson (1884)
Despite puzzling claims to the contrary The Skye Collection and The Athole Collection are not “basically the same”. In fact, it’s remarkable how few tunes the two books have in common. [They are quite distinct, and referring to them as “The Skye (Athole)” collection makes no sense whatever.] Both these collections are worth owning, and are very rich in old (and nowadays rarely played) tunes, as well as being recent enough to contain some of James Scott Skinner's compositions.
You will find a lot of music from the Gow family in the Athole Collection and the Skye Collection. But if you want more music from Neil and Nathaniel Gow you can find it here:
The Gow Collection of Scottish Dance Music, ed. Richard Carlin (printed in 1986, a collection compiled from the various Gow Collections from between 1784 and 1822).
Some of the tunes in The Gow Collection are labeled “Very Old”, and some sound quite archaic, unlike most of the modern Scottish fiddle repertoire.
Yes, sorry about the confusion with Athole & Skye, both are worth having, but much of what is in the Skye, in my estimation, is a direct copy from the earlier Athole. The intention was mostly to say that 'one' or the other will do for a start. I stand corrected and clarified.
Much of my own collections are not at hand, though the Skye is here the Athole isn't. Both were found in distribution on Cape Breton island, but more so the Skye, in my experience... I also came across the Marshall and the Fraser... Here's a useful site with that regard and maintained by someone with a huge interest and passion for the subject, Paul Cranford ~
There is an ABC version of both The Sky & The Athole collections online... The Athole is given above, but here's the direct link to the zip file of the Athole collection ABCs:
I was sure I'd seen both online but am not finding them, having done a quick search and checked old links I have that no longer seem to work. It's my mind that has them registering as being very similar, but I've only travelled with my copy of The Skye and I haven't my copy of the Athole on hand to compare. I shall re-educate and readjust that notion by checking out the huge ABC collection I have of such things on this computer.
Definitely suffering from zombie-ism, a variant of 'thick' ~ the same link has the Skye, and following that are the tune lists for comparison. I am that ugly, from too much lost sleep ~ :-|
Dr. David Johnson was one of Scotland's leading musicologists, a fine composer and all-round musician, a splendid eccentric, an excellent communicator and a delightful and entertaining companion. His untimely death is a real blow to Scottish culture as a whole, never mind to those whose interests are more particularly musical, for his research went far beyond matters musicological, and his own music was both intellectually satisfying and thoroughly approachable.
David Charles Johnson was the eldest son of Sir Ronald and Lady Johnson. Both his parents were musical, as was the whole family, and he composed several pieces for trumpet for his late brother, Matthew. He studied at the University of Aberdeen, and moved on to St John's College, Cambridge, where he completed a doctoral thesis, published in 1972 as Music and Society in Lowland Scotland in the Eighteenth Century. The cumbersome title belied the contents, for it was rightly described as providing "an analysis of quite unusual clarity and intellectual power".
It was followed by his much-used and highly valued "Scottish Fiddle Music in the 18th Century", in which he published his own editions of a number of seminal works for fiddle, along with full annotations, historical background and perceptive comment. Chamber Music of Eighteenth-Century Scotland, for the Musica Scotica series, appeared shortly afterwards, containing his own editions of no less than 27 pieces.
These (and many other) editions brought to light wonderful music that was little known, and which he promoted through his own McGibbon Ensemble, and with the production of recordings which likewise broke new ground. He also directed two challenging CDs on The Art of Robert Burns, which aimed to "present Burns' songs, once more, as they were known to his 18th-century contemporaries".
As a music historian, Johnson had a lively and humane style. Academic requirements were well satisfied, but he was as happy to use anecdote to illustrate a point as he was to analyse the structure of a piece or expose its indebtedness to some other composer.
His scholarship was ground-breaking and, although he was rightly protective of his material, he was open-handed with his advice. His dry giggle at the end of the telephone, when generously answering some query, was one of the delights of scholarship and I shall miss his company. ~ ~ ~
Johnson's work was not done merely for himself, but so that we should not be deprived of a cultural inheritance which had been too readily ignored. In this, as in so many aspects of his life, he was true to that sense of obligation to society which has been a keystone of Scottish culture in our better days. It is a particular sadness to me that he did not live to receive the sort of honours that were his due from that society, and which would have thoroughly tickled his fancy. We are all profoundly in his debt. ~
Check out the short exchange about 'old style' piping, contributed by 'whistleblower' & 'ionannas', and links shared... Just speaking from the heart, it was this old style of piping in Cape Breton that really 'called to me'. They played for dance ~ houses, crossroads, bridges, platforms. It was that 'dance' in their playing that spoke to my heart and my feet... Sean nos styles of step-dancing, that survival in Ireland and North America, for example in the Canadian Maritimes, Cape Breton, Prince Edward Island, etc., that also speaks to the heart. The exaggerations of modern versions of it, costumed or otherwise, do not. The same is true of how the music is interpreted. It is not just about the age of a given melody...
The original Old Blind Dogs when Ian Benzie was with group for guitar and vocals had several tunes like McPherson's Rant and Twa' Corbies that date back into the 1700's.
Old Scottish tunes
Old Scottish tunes
Hiya,
I'm looking for OLD Scottish tunes. I know that most Scottish tunes are old, but I'm sure there are Even older tunes which are rarely heard, or not well known.???
Thanks for your help!
Fiddle Girl!
# Posted on April 30th 2009 by Fiddle Girl!
Re: Old Scottish tunes
"Flowers of Edinburgh"
oh, you said rarely heard ~ don't know.
"Port Priest"
or . . .
Scottish Lute Manuscripts
http://www.standingstones.com/lutemss.html
# Posted on April 30th 2009 by Random_notes
Re: Old Scottish tunes
Here's a link that might help you :
http://www.scotlandsmusic.com/
they re-issued in 2002 a book of scores first published in 1788 :
"A collection of strathspeys, reels, etc. by Malcolm McDonald"
Taigh na Teud publish a lot in scottish music, old and new...
you can also have à look at the RSCDS publications (on this site you'll get some allergic reaction on RSCDS, but they have good tunes, and a lot afo ancient ones !)
there's also this link :
www.footstompin.com/collections/books/kerrs-collections - 66k
# Posted on April 30th 2009 by Nikita Pfister
Re: Old Scottish tunes
No, more like the flu with a rash from too much bleach and starch... Fortunately it's not a pan-demic, though the influences are worldwide, kilts to the West of us, Kilts to the East of us, Kilts to the North and South of us, but fortunately they mostly keep to themselves in little pockets... Nice folk but badly deluded and generally suffering aches and pains from the strain and seriousness of it all, especially in the musculature around the mouth, all that forced gurning...
Yes, lovely music, dance and history ~ and don't forget these folks ~
"The Highland Music Trust"
http://www.heallan.com/index.html
Consider "The Marshall Collection" ~ & at the bottom, et voila, free donwloads...
"The Athole" & "The Skye" are basically the same ~
http://www.cranfordpub.com/books/skye.htm
& also ~ the works of the Fletts, for example their book:
"Traditional Dancing in Scotland"
# Posted on April 30th 2009 by ceolachan
Re: Old Scottish tunes
Taigh na Teud / Scotland's Music ~ as mentioned earlier by Nikita
http://www.scotlandsmusic.com/collections.htm
"The Angus Fraser Collection"
http://www.playscottishmusic.com/PDShop/shop/item.aspx?itemid=180 ~ download
http://www.mally.com/details.asp?id=519
"Simon Fraser: The Airs and Melodies Peculiar to the Highlands of Scotland And The Isles"
"Gow's Repository of the Dance Music of Scotland"
"James Hunter: The Fiddle Music of Scotland"
edited by Alistair & William Hardie
"The Caledonian Companion"
Alistair Hardie
"The Fiddler's Companion" ~ w/CD
~ Aly Bain, Angus Grant, Alastair Hardie, Donald Stewart, Tom Anderson, Bill Hardie and Hector McAndrew
# Posted on April 30th 2009 by ceolachan
Re: Old Scottish tunes
Fiddle Girl - There are plenty of old Scottish tunes in ABC compilations. For example there's the The Simon Fraser ABC Collection - "170 tunes from "Airs and Melodies Peculiar to the Highlands and The Isles" by Captain Simon Fraser 1816, 166 tunes from The Skye Collection by Keith N. MacDonald, 1887, 40 tunes from Bremner's Collections (1757-1762). These are great to explore - I'll send you copies if you tell me where to send them (you need ABC Navigator to open them)
# Posted on April 30th 2009 by RichardB
"The Fiddler's Resource" ~ Andrew Kuntz
http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/
http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/References.html
# Posted on April 30th 2009 by ceolachan
Re: Old Scottish tunes
The Scottish ABC collections seem to be available here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060421011334/http://softflute.co.uk/music/abc/index.htm
# Posted on April 30th 2009 by RichardB
Re: Old Scottish tunes
Weird, no wonder I couldn't get a link to there, it's been archived. A good one Richard, and "The Skye (Athole) is there in ABCs...
# Posted on April 30th 2009 by ceolachan
There was another link I was trying to chase up which featured a history of the old collections and collectors. I can't seem to get that link to work or find an alternative either?
# Posted on April 30th 2009 by ceolachan
Re: Old Scottish tunes
Hi Fiddle Girl! You want old Scottish tunes - how old? I think you'll find some extremely old tunes if you trawl through this link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/music/scotlandsmusic/
My personal favourite, is a tune with the odd name "Hei Tutti Tatti". The transcript from one of the programmes available through the above link says the following:
"On which nationalistic note, I shall end with Scots
Wha Hae wi’ Wallace bled – well, not quite. This is Hei Tutti tatti, the original tune that Robert
Burns used and which is supposed to have been played at Bannockburn when Scotland finally
secured its independence."
So, is 1314 old enough for you!
Incidently, I also think it's a far superior tune to "Scots Wha Hae". There are also various other Scottish and Irish tunes probably derived from this "original" tune.
There's also the following:
http://www.abdn.ac.uk/scottskinner/
But there are many more old (more interesting) collections available - especially if you want less hackneyed material (oops!!! The Banchory Strathspey and Reel Society will be putting out an APB for me!).....
# Posted on April 30th 2009 by Ron P
Re: Old Scottish tunes
The kilt brigade'll be after you...
There's tons on that Scott Skinner site, much of it hidden away in dusty corners... There's even the early dance manuals and handwritten manuscripts. I love that site...
# Posted on April 30th 2009 by ceolachan
Re: Old Scottish tunes
there's a tune called 'ruffian's rant' that i heard on a recording of elke baker's called, i think, _over the border_, that i thought was a good player's intro to scottish strathspey/rant, dotted style. the aly bain/phil cunningham jewel recordings are a great source of tunes, though i can't swear to their utter antiquity.
# Posted on April 30th 2009 by 'tinamatt
Re: Old Scottish tunes
I'd look at Cape Breton music, where a lot of old Scottish tunes (especially for the fiddle and not the pipes)are still common currency (e.g. the 'Burnt Leg' - not a hint of pipe mode there...)
# Posted on April 30th 2009 by marka
Re: Old Scottish tunes
Heres - 5 Wee scots jigs some maybe not played so much now - Will these help = jim,,,,
X:1
T:Elizabeth Donald
C:Adam Rennie
R:single jig
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:A
e|c2A AGA|F2A E2A|F2A E2A|GAB B2e|c2A AGA|F2A E2f|
dBG EFG|A3 A2:|c/B/|A2c cBc|A2c E3|F2B BcB|G2B e3|
c2A AGA|F2A D2f|dBG EFG|A3 A2 c/B/|A2c cBc|A2c E3|
F2B BcB|G2B e3|AGA cBA|FDE F2f|dBG EFG|A3 A2|]
X:2
T:The Ferry
R:Jig
L:1/8
Q:334
M:6/8
K:A
cBc Ace | f3 efg | a2c cBA | cBB Bed | cBc Ace | f3 efg | a2c BAB | A3 Aed | \
cBc Ace | f3 efg | a2c cBA | cBB Bed | cBc Ace | f3 efg | a2c BAB | A3 Aed | \
cea aga | fdf agf | e2c cBA | cBB Bed | cBc Ace | f3 efg | a2c BAB | A3 Aed | \
cea aga | fdf agf | e2c cBA | cBB Bed | cBc Ace | f3 efg | a2c BAB | A4 z2 | \
X:3
T:The Top Of Ben Lomand
R:single jig
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:D
a |faf dfd | BdB A2B | def afd | efd e2a|
|faf dfd | BdB A2B | def afe | d3- d2:||
g |a~A3 f~A3| BdB A2B | def afd | efd e2g|
|a~A3 f~A3| BdB A2B | def afe | d3 d2-:||
X:4
T:Sir Torquil Monroe
R:Single Jig
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:A
E|EAA A2B|cAA A2G|FBB BcA|GEE E2E|
|EAA A2B|cAA A2G|FcB GFG|A3 A2:|
d|cde ecA|dff f2A|GAB BGE|cee e2d|
|cde ecA|dff f2A|GAB EFG|A3 A2d|
|cde ecA|dff f2A|GAB BGE|cee e2e|
|efg agf|edc BAG|FGA BGE|A3- A2-||
X:5
T:Kenmure’s Up and Awa’
R:JIG
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:A
||Ace aec|efe e2c|Ace aec|BcB B2c|
|Ace aec|efg agf|edc dcB|ABA A3:|
|a2e fec|efe e2g|a2e fec|BcB B2e|
|A2e fec|efg agf|edc dcB|ABA A3:||
# Posted on April 30th 2009 by FIDDLE4
Re: Old Scottish tunes: 1500-1700 etc.
Hi Fiddle Girl!
A superb scholarly collection of Scottish music from Renaissance sources can be found in:
Musica Britannica vol. 15: Music of Scotland 1500–1700. ed. Kenneth Elliott (1957)
It’s available from the publisher here: http://www.stainer.co.uk/acatalog/mb1.html
An excellent CD from The Baltimore Consort – “On the Banks of Helicon: Early Music of Scotland” includes music from this volume.
A book with some unusual music from the century leading up to the great Strathspey composers William Marshall and Neil Gow is:
Scottish Fiddle Music of the Eighteenth Century: A Music Collection and Historical Study, by David Johnson.
This book contains a mere 90 tunes from the generations before Neil Gow. Some of these tunes include variations, and many tunes show the influence of the Baroque.
The Airs and Melodies Peculiar to the Highlands of Scotland and the Isles, ed. Simon Fraser, (commonly known as The Fraser Collection) .This collection includes many song airs and marches from the period of the Jacobite rebellions of 1715 and 1745, as well as some unusual strathspeys and reels.
Two important and famous 19th century collections (both influential on Cape Breton fiddling) are these:
The Skye Collection, by Keith Norman Mac Donald(1887) &
The Athole Collection, by James Stewart Robertson (1884)
Despite puzzling claims to the contrary The Skye Collection and The Athole Collection are not “basically the same”. In fact, it’s remarkable how few tunes the two books have in common. [They are quite distinct, and referring to them as “The Skye (Athole)” collection makes no sense whatever.] Both these collections are worth owning, and are very rich in old (and nowadays rarely played) tunes, as well as being recent enough to contain some of James Scott Skinner's compositions.
You will find a lot of music from the Gow family in the Athole Collection and the Skye Collection. But if you want more music from Neil and Nathaniel Gow you can find it here:
The Gow Collection of Scottish Dance Music, ed. Richard Carlin (printed in 1986, a collection compiled from the various Gow Collections from between 1784 and 1822).
Some of the tunes in The Gow Collection are labeled “Very Old”, and some sound quite archaic, unlike most of the modern Scottish fiddle repertoire.
# Posted on May 1st 2009 by whistleblower
Re: Old Scottish tunes
Hi everyone,
Thanks so much for all your help, It's really appreciated!
# Posted on May 2nd 2009 by Fiddle Girl!
Re: Old Scottish tunes
whistleblower ~ brilliant addition...
Yes, sorry about the confusion with Athole & Skye, both are worth having, but much of what is in the Skye, in my estimation, is a direct copy from the earlier Athole. The intention was mostly to say that 'one' or the other will do for a start. I stand corrected and clarified.
# Posted on May 2nd 2009 by ceolachan
Re: Old Scottish tunes
Much of my own collections are not at hand, though the Skye is here the Athole isn't. Both were found in distribution on Cape Breton island, but more so the Skye, in my experience... I also came across the Marshall and the Fraser... Here's a useful site with that regard and maintained by someone with a huge interest and passion for the subject, Paul Cranford ~
http://www.cranfordpub.com/
# Posted on May 2nd 2009 by ceolachan
Re: Old Scottish tunes
There is an ABC version of both The Sky & The Athole collections online... The Athole is given above, but here's the direct link to the zip file of the Athole collection ABCs:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060421011334/http://softflute.co.uk/music/abc/tunes/Athole.zip
I was sure I'd seen both online but am not finding them, having done a quick search and checked old links I have that no longer seem to work. It's my mind that has them registering as being very similar, but I've only travelled with my copy of The Skye and I haven't my copy of the Athole on hand to compare. I shall re-educate and readjust that notion by checking out the huge ABC collection I have of such things on this computer.
I love the Highland Music Trust's publications, repeating a link I'd already given ~
http://www.heallan.com/index.html
# Posted on May 2nd 2009 by ceolachan
Re: Old Scottish tunes
Definitely suffering from zombie-ism, a variant of 'thick' ~ the same link has the Skye, and following that are the tune lists for comparison. I am that ugly, from too much lost sleep ~ :-|
http://web.archive.org/web/20060421011334/softflute.co.uk/music/abc/index.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20060426130201/softflute.co.uk/music/abc/Athole_Index.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20060426130155/softflute.co.uk/music/abc/Skye_Index.htm
& YES! ~ Both are bursting with great melodies...
# Posted on May 2nd 2009 by ceolachan
"Scottish Fiddle Music of the 18th Century" by David Johnson
Dr. David Johnson ~ musician, composer and musicologist
Born: 27 October, 1942, in Edinburgh. / Died: 30 March, 2009, in Edinburgh, aged 66
R.I.P. ~ Obituaries for David Johnson, gone too soon...
http://www.theherald.co.uk/
http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/obituaries/display.var.2501734.0.David_Johnson.php
http://www.scotsman.com/
http://news.scotsman.com/obituaries/Dr-David-Johnson.5166469.jp
Published Date: 14 April 2009 ~ by John Purser
Dr. David Johnson was one of Scotland's leading musicologists, a fine composer and all-round musician, a splendid eccentric, an excellent communicator and a delightful and entertaining companion. His untimely death is a real blow to Scottish culture as a whole, never mind to those whose interests are more particularly musical, for his research went far beyond matters musicological, and his own music was both intellectually satisfying and thoroughly approachable.
David Charles Johnson was the eldest son of Sir Ronald and Lady Johnson. Both his parents were musical, as was the whole family, and he composed several pieces for trumpet for his late brother, Matthew. He studied at the University of Aberdeen, and moved on to St John's College, Cambridge, where he completed a doctoral thesis, published in 1972 as Music and Society in Lowland Scotland in the Eighteenth Century. The cumbersome title belied the contents, for it was rightly described as providing "an analysis of quite unusual clarity and intellectual power".
It was followed by his much-used and highly valued "Scottish Fiddle Music in the 18th Century", in which he published his own editions of a number of seminal works for fiddle, along with full annotations, historical background and perceptive comment. Chamber Music of Eighteenth-Century Scotland, for the Musica Scotica series, appeared shortly afterwards, containing his own editions of no less than 27 pieces.
These (and many other) editions brought to light wonderful music that was little known, and which he promoted through his own McGibbon Ensemble, and with the production of recordings which likewise broke new ground. He also directed two challenging CDs on The Art of Robert Burns, which aimed to "present Burns' songs, once more, as they were known to his 18th-century contemporaries".
As a music historian, Johnson had a lively and humane style. Academic requirements were well satisfied, but he was as happy to use anecdote to illustrate a point as he was to analyse the structure of a piece or expose its indebtedness to some other composer.
His scholarship was ground-breaking and, although he was rightly protective of his material, he was open-handed with his advice. His dry giggle at the end of the telephone, when generously answering some query, was one of the delights of scholarship and I shall miss his company. ~ ~ ~
Johnson's work was not done merely for himself, but so that we should not be deprived of a cultural inheritance which had been too readily ignored. In this, as in so many aspects of his life, he was true to that sense of obligation to society which has been a keystone of Scottish culture in our better days. It is a particular sadness to me that he did not live to receive the sort of honours that were his due from that society, and which would have thoroughly tickled his fancy. We are all profoundly in his debt. ~
# Posted on May 2nd 2009 by ceolachan
Discussion: type of dancing? ~ & old style piping
# Posted on May 2nd 2009 by Tasia
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/21458
Check out the short exchange about 'old style' piping, contributed by 'whistleblower' & 'ionannas', and links shared... Just speaking from the heart, it was this old style of piping in Cape Breton that really 'called to me'. They played for dance ~ houses, crossroads, bridges, platforms. It was that 'dance' in their playing that spoke to my heart and my feet... Sean nos styles of step-dancing, that survival in Ireland and North America, for example in the Canadian Maritimes, Cape Breton, Prince Edward Island, etc., that also speaks to the heart. The exaggerations of modern versions of it, costumed or otherwise, do not. The same is true of how the music is interpreted. It is not just about the age of a given melody...
# Posted on May 4th 2009 by ceolachan
Re: Old Scottish tunes
The original Old Blind Dogs when Ian Benzie was with group for guitar and vocals had several tunes like McPherson's Rant and Twa' Corbies that date back into the 1700's.
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by Micheál
Re: Old Scottish tunes
http://web.archive.org/web/20060426130201/softflute.co.uk/music/abc/Athole_Index.htm
Nice links C! A mass of old tunes. I have ABC edit which will convert to the dots and is pretty handy for this kind of thing
thanks
# Posted on May 5th 2009 by the wicked hacker
Re: Old Scottish tunes
I was stuck trying to remember this one ~
Ross’s Music Page
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/music/index.html
Another source of interest...
# Posted on May 18th 2009 by ceolachan
Discussion: Scottish tunes
# Posted on May 12th 2009 by Fiddle Girl!
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/21544
Tying the two together...
# Posted on May 18th 2009 by ceolachan
Early Scottish tunes
"On The Banks Of Helicon: Early Music Of Scotland"
The Baltimore Consort
http://www.thesession.org/recordings/display/3354
# Posted on May 24th 2009 by ceolachan
Re: Old Scottish tunes
If you want real oldish Scots tunes have a look here:
http://www.scotchsnap.com/
# Posted on November 17th 2009 by javivr
Re: Old Scottish tunes
I'm older than some of your "real older Scottish tunes" on that website .
# Posted on November 17th 2009 by Kenny