I have actually received a text across a session table before a few years back. I think it said something along the lines of "who is this arse sitting next to me?" or somesuch.
Tying this in with other threads perhaps instead of shouting keys to the guitarists only for them to mishear "D" and "G" maybe it would be better just to text. Think of the extra info you could convey in terms of identifying the mode and even providing chord charts. Perfect solution!
It might be better if it activated a controlled explosion in the vile gewgaw, permanently affecting the culprit's capacity to use it with the ear, hand, mouth or any other body part in close contact with it at the time.
I do not like mobile phones, as you may have guessed. In addition to being insufferable, they are devastating the Congo and tracking your every move.
Nicholas, by "mobile phones", do you mean what are also called "cell phones"?
I don't like them because it feels like wearing an electronic collar and leash to me.
"3. Thou shalt turn thy cell phone off during public performances.
I'm not even sure this one needs to be said, but given the repeated violations of this heretofore unwritten law, I felt compelled to include it."
".... more and more it is in human-measures: annoyance, irritation, and frustration. It is what makes us wish to throw away the technology even as we embrace it.
We are in real danger of a consumer backlash against annoying technologies.
We already have seen the growth of mobile-phone free zones, of prohibition against phone use, camera use, camera phones, in all sort of public and private places.
The mobile phone has been shown to be a dangerous distraction to the driver of an automobile, whether hands-free or not.
If we do nothing to overcome these problems, then the benefits these technologies bring may very well be denied us because the social costs are simply too great."
Isn't it funny how driving & sessions have the same dangers ... i.e. Drunks & Mobile Phone users!
"Several surveys have actually concluded that using a phone behind the wheel is more dangerous than drink-driving and more likely to cause a car accident."
I was thinking on Friday night of sending a text to our fiddle player ,Captain Bpart ,to remind him that sets usually go tune twice rise twice not tune twice rise from another tune three times .
See they have a use
I use my mobile mostly as my MP3 player not for calls wish it was able to record the sessions .
Ptarmigan, your concerns are about as up to date as a Mike Yarwood impression!
I've never seen a session ruined or even marred by a mobile phone, (any more than by someone talking without a phone) but I know of many great impromptu sessions convened by text that would not otherwise have happened
Someone behind me in the supermarket was arguing with his girlfriend on the phone today, and when I turned to see why he was so agitated, he gave me a nasty look like mind my own business. But if you bring your business into the market, my thought is that the problem is yours!
Maybe your fellow sessioneers, up there in Aberdeen, are still using Pigeons, to carry their messages!
But seriously, in my experience, the perfect session ambiance is like a delicate flower & it can so easily be destroyed by thoughtless eedjits in your midst.
@Mix:"... those other two session scourges - video cameras and recording machines?"
I'm curious, do you feel these are always bad, or is it more the way they're used by impolite people?
I ask because I often see recorders at sessions, and I imagine there's a big difference between "do you mind if I record this so I can learn the tunes?" and someone sticking a microphone in your face without saying a word.
I have a harder time seeing video cameras used by session musicians in a polite way, but I think visitors to the pub can be excused for wanting to record something they think is pretty cool.
Re: recording: our session is run by two ITM music teachers, they encourage everyone to bring recorders to get the tunes down.
Luckily there is very little other electronic hijinx happenuing, occasionally patrons will talk really loud but that is probably typical of the session relationship with the pub in most situations. It is a session and not a performance after all.
As for the bodhran issue, our session has a "one at a time" unspoken code for bodhran and for other instruments like banjo, guitar, and the pipes (though we're lucky to see one piper at any given time).
Save your Session!
Save your Session!
Is your session { & your sanity } under attack?
If so, for £21.50, this could be the perfect solution to the 21st Century's dreaded scourge of the Session!
http://www.bestofferbuy.com/portable-mobile-signal-jammer-15m-p-1007.html?currency=GBP&utm_source=gbase&utm_medium=cse&utm_campaign=gbase
Maybe now, folks will get back to talking, instead of sending text messages ... across the table!
Cheers
Dick
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
Surely gags would be a cheaper option?
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by No Cause For Alarm
Re: Save your Session!
I have actually received a text across a session table before a few years back. I think it said something along the lines of "who is this arse sitting next to me?" or somesuch.
Tying this in with other threads perhaps instead of shouting keys to the guitarists only for them to mishear "D" and "G" maybe it would be better just to text. Think of the extra info you could convey in terms of identifying the mode and even providing chord charts. Perfect solution!
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by No Cause For Alarm
Re: Save your Session!
Excellent, Ptarmigan!
... but can you also advise me where I can buy a gizmo that will jam those other two session scourges - video cameras and recording machines?
Hmm - or maybe a gizmo to jam some of those ear-jarring chords that you get from some guitarists ....
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Mix O'Lydian
Re: Save your Session!
... and llig might be interested to hear about a bodhran frequency jammer ....
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Mix O'Lydian
Re: Save your Session!
Aren't they just called stanley knives?
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by SineadE
Re: Save your Session!
Mix, here's a Djembe Jammer .... but I don't think it's quite what you had in mind!
.... although, as a projectile, I'm sure it could be very useful!
http://djembedrumshop.com/index.php?cPath=7
Gags? That's a strange idea NCFA!
..... unless of course you are into S&M!
Cheers
Dick
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
It might be better if it activated a controlled explosion in the vile gewgaw, permanently affecting the culprit's capacity to use it with the ear, hand, mouth or any other body part in close contact with it at the time.
I do not like mobile phones, as you may have guessed. In addition to being insufferable, they are devastating the Congo and tracking your every move.
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by nicholas
Re: Save your Session!
Ptarmi - Arrggh! - Yes, I've seen those things in sessions too!
.. and heard 'em!
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Mix O'Lydian
Re: Save your Session!
Nicholas, by "mobile phones", do you mean what are also called "cell phones"?
I don't like them because it feels like wearing an electronic collar and leash to me.
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by fauxcelt
Re: Save your Session!
By the way, it's official ... people who use Mobile Phones in Public places ARE a pain in the Ass!
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20040412.html
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
Next time a Mobile Phone annoys you in a Session, try this:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/26551/annoying_cell_phone/
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
In case you are interested, here are the "Ten Commandments of cell phone etiquette."
http://www.infoworld.com/articles/op/xml/00/05/26/000526opwireless.html
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
P.S. Please take particular note of No. 3:
"3. Thou shalt turn thy cell phone off during public performances.
I'm not even sure this one needs to be said, but given the repeated violations of this heretofore unwritten law, I felt compelled to include it."
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
If we don't stamp them out NOW, in future all sessioneers may end up wearing these:
http://www.protectear.com/products/images/Accessories/ElectronicAccessories/image033%20550x550.jpg
Can't you just picture all the real flash harrys chatting with their broker or ordering a Pizza ....... mid-tune!
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
Here is some more food for thought:
".... more and more it is in human-measures: annoyance, irritation, and frustration. It is what makes us wish to throw away the technology even as we embrace it.
We are in real danger of a consumer backlash against annoying technologies.
We already have seen the growth of mobile-phone free zones, of prohibition against phone use, camera use, camera phones, in all sort of public and private places.
The mobile phone has been shown to be a dangerous distraction to the driver of an automobile, whether hands-free or not.
If we do nothing to overcome these problems, then the benefits these technologies bring may very well be denied us because the social costs are simply too great."
http://creativecommons.learnhub.com/lesson/8653-minimizing-the-annoyance-of-the-mobile-phone
Cheers
Dick
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
Isn't it funny how driving & sessions have the same dangers ... i.e. Drunks & Mobile Phone users!
"Several surveys have actually concluded that using a phone behind the wheel is more dangerous than drink-driving and more likely to cause a car accident."
http://www.car-accident-claim.com/car-accident/mobile-phones-and-car-accidents.htm
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
Maybe it's time we all posted these up at our Sessions:
http://www.weekwill.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/phone-ban.jpg
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
By the way, while we're on the subject, do you live next to a Mobile Phone Mast? If so, you might want to read this:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1687491.ece
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
Hey Nicholas, don't worry too much about the vanishing Rainforest. After all, they can always replace it with these:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgewalden/3346290411/
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
Here's another idea folks. Next time some session eedjit uses his or her mobile phone in your session, try this:
< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BujoOxjB3b4 >
Cheers
Dick
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
@ faux
UK English = mobile phone
US English = cellphone
Yes, they are rather like electronic dog-collars. Although I do own one, I rarely carry it around with me ...
.. somewhat defeats the object!
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Mix O'Lydian
Re: Save your Session!
Not sure about this daft discussion but I just wanted to say that Ptarmigan's mandolin playing is fantastic. Just heard it for the first time.
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by McDermott
Re: Save your Session!
Aye Mix, I do have a Mobile Phone too .... but mine stays in the car! .... which means that it is still mobile!
Hey Joel, I think perhaps you need to get out more!
Cheers
Dick
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
I was thinking on Friday night of sending a text to our fiddle player ,Captain Bpart ,to remind him that sets usually go tune twice rise twice not tune twice rise from another tune three times .
See they have a use
I use my mobile mostly as my MP3 player not for calls wish it was able to record the sessions .
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by bazouki dave
Re: Save your Session!
Hey Dave, if you want to "record the sessions" you should get yourself one of these, instead:
http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/h2/index.php
Cheers
Dick
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
Ptarmigan, your concerns are about as up to date as a Mike Yarwood impression!
I've never seen a session ruined or even marred by a mobile phone, (any more than by someone talking without a phone) but I know of many great impromptu sessions convened by text that would not otherwise have happened
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Bren
Re: Save your Session!
Someone behind me in the supermarket was arguing with his girlfriend on the phone today, and when I turned to see why he was so agitated, he gave me a nasty look like mind my own business. But if you bring your business into the market, my thought is that the problem is yours!
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by AlBrown
Re: Save your Session!
Mike who, Bren? Giving your age away there, eh!
Maybe your fellow sessioneers, up there in Aberdeen, are still using Pigeons, to carry their messages!
But seriously, in my experience, the perfect session ambiance is like a delicate flower & it can so easily be destroyed by thoughtless eedjits in your midst.
Cheers
Dick
# Posted on March 29th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
> only for them to mishear "D" and "G" maybe it
)
> would be better just to text
That's why DoReMi notation is better: you can mishear D and G, but you probably wont mishear "re" and "sol'"
# Posted on March 30th 2009 by breqwas
Re: Save your Session!
Thank you for the English lesson Mix.
# Posted on March 30th 2009 by fauxcelt
Re: Save your Session!
Those mobile phone jammers also mess with pace makers and are illegal in the UK as far as I remember.
# Posted on March 30th 2009 by iwerzon
Re: Save your Session!
@Mix:"... those other two session scourges - video cameras and recording machines?"
I'm curious, do you feel these are always bad, or is it more the way they're used by impolite people?
I ask because I often see recorders at sessions, and I imagine there's a big difference between "do you mind if I record this so I can learn the tunes?" and someone sticking a microphone in your face without saying a word.
I have a harder time seeing video cameras used by session musicians in a polite way, but I think visitors to the pub can be excused for wanting to record something they think is pretty cool.
# Posted on March 30th 2009 by hotsauce
Re: Save your Session!
Yeah, I personally don't mind if folks record us playing, after all that's how I got most of my tunes!
Isn't the jury still out on that Pacemaker argument, iwerzon?
Cheers
Dick
# Posted on March 30th 2009 by Ptarmigan
Re: Save your Session!
Re: recording: our session is run by two ITM music teachers, they encourage everyone to bring recorders to get the tunes down.
Luckily there is very little other electronic hijinx happenuing, occasionally patrons will talk really loud but that is probably typical of the session relationship with the pub in most situations. It is a session and not a performance after all.
As for the bodhran issue, our session has a "one at a time" unspoken code for bodhran and for other instruments like banjo, guitar, and the pipes (though we're lucky to see one piper at any given time).
# Posted on March 30th 2009 by ralphus
Re: Save your Session!
Ah, Ptarmigan, how nice to see you back here with time on your hands! I'm sure we can look forward to all kinds of esoteric stimulation.
# Posted on April 1st 2009 by oldstrings