Greeny is a chestnut alright, but there are a lot of tunes missing from the re-published book version. Noteable of these is the tune 'If You Will Not Have Me You May Let Me Go', a beautiful 3/2 in B minor.
Rusty Gulley, or Punchinello's Hornpipe is a great one to try in mixolydian modes. Lots of tunes were hiked into major keys when they sheet-music publishers got hold of them, taking them out of their original piping modes to suit baroque tastes. Give it a try, it's filthy.
Robert, thanks for the borderpipes tune.
I may have found another good set, but cannot suss out the 3rd tune. Can anyone direct me to a recording of the 'Peacock's March' listed in the following?
The Gathering
Kathryn Tickell
Submitted on June 21st 2007 by hetty http://www.thesession.org/recordings/display/2625
Lads Of Alnwick/Sunderland Lasses/Peacocks March
There is a tune composed by John Peacock w/the same name. I will not rest until I have heard the set played the way Kathryn intended it. Actually, I probably will rest; it's just a figure of speech. Thanks for the comments. Cheers.
If anyone wants to recommend a Kathryn Tickell CD that wold be grand.
I haven't got "The Gathering", though I'll have heard it at some stage, and can't remember the sound of that set. But I only know Peacock's March as a 2/4 tune, and am pretty sure KT played Lads Of Alnwick and Sunderland Lasses in 3/2 (actually, these two have often been noted as 3/4...) and then broke into 2/4 to play the Peacock's March I know - a tune that has not as yet got into the Tunes section here. Many tracks on her albums have featured abrupt rhythm breaks between tunes.
I think Kathryn Tickell's best album, and her band's, is their fairly recent one "Instrumental", for overall consistency of musical and arrangement / production quality. The tunes are nearly all originals composed by her and one or two others. I think it's a really good album in the area of those that build new or more elaborate music on a trad base.
Previous albums "The Northumberland Collection" and "Back To The Hills" visit the sort of tunes played in Northumberland in the later c20 and doubtless before - the generation of "The Shepherds" including noted fiddler Willy Taylor, who features on "Back To The Hills".
I just posted a recent favourite of mine: John Thomas's Hornpipe.
I don't think there are any recordings of it yet, so I'm afraid you'll have to make do with the ABCs or sheet music, unless you happen to pass through Oxford some time...
I discovered 3/2 hornpipes in a workshop with Sandra Kerr. Haven't been able to stop playing them ever since.
I just posted my first try at composing a tune in 3/2, "Poddles" which I play as the last tune in a set with Little Fishie (from the Northumbrian Minstrelsy) then Rusty Gulley
Dog Leap Stairs is a nice little one by Alistair Anderson - it's in the Tunes database. I think he promoted their recovery in Northumbrian music. 3/2s seem to have been very widely played in Britain in the c17 to early c19 period, and I don't think Northumbria had any special claim on the form: if anything North West England seems to have been an epicentre.
However, a Northern English / Southern Scottish repertoire used for the Border Pipes is being resurrected, along with that instrument. It includes more 3/2s than more recent phases of the local trad. In effect it's a sample of c18 music which, with its tunes and rhythms, ceased to be played much, or at all, some time in the c19, when the Border Pipes went out of fashion. (NB - these tunes can work extremely well on the fiddle too.)
Northumbrian music has always been much more tied in with Scottish music than with Irish - natural enough, seeing Scotland's just up the road and most of Northumberland was not a magnet for Irish immigration, being rural. In the c20 radio, Fiddle And Accordion Clubs ( a Scottish phenomenon also found in Northumberland), records and suchlike media enabled N/brian musicians to hear a great many Scottish tunes and play whichever suited them best: they've therefore made pretty eclectic use of Scottish music in general - Highland, Lowland, you name it - and composed many tunes in Scottish traditions - marches, strathspeys, schottisches, et cetera. There's a strong nexus with Shetland music because a lot of it suits N/brian dances and styles (I don't think there's ever been a major historical link between the two places).
Unfortunately it seems that the abc for Poddles wasn't appropriate here so it was take off the site, but you can find it in the 3/2 tune collection here, if you're interested
Triple Hornpipes
Triple Hornpipes
Do you play any 3/2 sets in session?
I have been looking at music. Forbidden fruit.
I have found some delicious tunes.
Here is a set of 3/2s submitted by spindizzy;
"Rusty Gulley"
December 14th 2002 by geoffwright
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/1208
"Dusty Miller" [3/2]
July 3rd 2007 by spindizzy
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/7436
"Our Cat has Kitted"
July 2nd 2007 by ceolachan
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/7434
# Posted on January 23rd 2009 by Random_notes
Northumbrian Tunes + 6 yrs
Constantly trolling the archives this is where the topic caught my eye;
Re: Northumbrian Tunes
December 6th 2002 by Jeremy
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/1126/comments#comment17455
# Posted on January 23rd 2009 by Random_notes
Re: Triple Hornpipes
http://www.leeds.ac.uk/music/info/RRTuneBk/Greeny/Greeny.name.html
# Posted on January 23rd 2009 by dafydd
Re: Triple Hornpipes
They're great.
# Posted on January 23rd 2009 by nicholas
Re: Triple Hornpipes
A slight hint of bias these Nic, but I agree
# Posted on January 23rd 2009 by bazouki dave
Re: Triple Hornpipes
:drool:
# Posted on January 23rd 2009 by gravelwalks
Re: Triple Hornpipes
Greeny is a chestnut alright, but there are a lot of tunes missing from the re-published book version. Noteable of these is the tune 'If You Will Not Have Me You May Let Me Go', a beautiful 3/2 in B minor.
Rusty Gulley, or Punchinello's Hornpipe is a great one to try in mixolydian modes. Lots of tunes were hiked into major keys when they sheet-music publishers got hold of them, taking them out of their original piping modes to suit baroque tastes. Give it a try, it's filthy.
# Posted on January 23rd 2009 by Robert Ryan
Re: Triple Hornpipes
Rusty Gully, or Punchinello's in Bb mixolydian, played on the borderpipes:
http://www.asaplive.com/farneaudio/m3u/borderpipes.m3u
# Posted on January 23rd 2009 by Robert Ryan
Re: Triple Hornpipes
Robert, thanks for the borderpipes tune.
I may have found another good set, but cannot suss out the 3rd tune. Can anyone direct me to a recording of the 'Peacock's March' listed in the following?
The Gathering
Kathryn Tickell
Submitted on June 21st 2007 by hetty
http://www.thesession.org/recordings/display/2625
Lads Of Alnwick/Sunderland Lasses/Peacocks March
There is a tune composed by John Peacock w/the same name. I will not rest until I have heard the set played the way Kathryn intended it. Actually, I probably will rest; it's just a figure of speech. Thanks for the comments. Cheers.
If anyone wants to recommend a Kathryn Tickell CD that wold be grand.
# Posted on January 24th 2009 by Random_notes
Re: Triple Hornpipes
I haven't got "The Gathering", though I'll have heard it at some stage, and can't remember the sound of that set. But I only know Peacock's March as a 2/4 tune, and am pretty sure KT played Lads Of Alnwick and Sunderland Lasses in 3/2 (actually, these two have often been noted as 3/4...) and then broke into 2/4 to play the Peacock's March I know - a tune that has not as yet got into the Tunes section here. Many tracks on her albums have featured abrupt rhythm breaks between tunes.
# Posted on January 24th 2009 by nicholas
Re: Triple Hornpipes
Thanks, nicholas that sounds great to me.
Someone posted a link to several tunes including the one mentioned;
Northumbrian Minstrelsy
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/10364
June 16th 2006 by lildogturpy
# Posted on January 24th 2009 by Random_notes
*
the middle link ~ the other 2 are dead.
# Posted on January 24th 2009 by Random_notes
**
abrupt rhythm breaks seem to be a signature.
Another one of here sets has "Peacock's March" between a jig & a reel;
12. Green Grechans of Branton / Peacock's March / I Saw My Love Come Passing
By Me
Kathryn Tickell (northumbrian pipes)
The Gathering. Real World Records Ltd, CAROL 2361-2
(a different album w/same title ~ 'the gathering')
# Posted on January 24th 2009 by Random_notes
Re: Triple Hornpipes
I think Kathryn Tickell's best album, and her band's, is their fairly recent one "Instrumental", for overall consistency of musical and arrangement / production quality. The tunes are nearly all originals composed by her and one or two others. I think it's a really good album in the area of those that build new or more elaborate music on a trad base.
Previous albums "The Northumberland Collection" and "Back To The Hills" visit the sort of tunes played in Northumberland in the later c20 and doubtless before - the generation of "The Shepherds" including noted fiddler Willy Taylor, who features on "Back To The Hills".
# Posted on January 24th 2009 by nicholas
Re: Triple Hornpipes
I just posted a recent favourite of mine: John Thomas's Hornpipe.
I don't think there are any recordings of it yet, so I'm afraid you'll have to make do with the ABCs or sheet music, unless you happen to pass through Oxford some time...
# Posted on January 24th 2009 by Robert Ryan
Re: Triple Hornpipes
I discovered 3/2 hornpipes in a workshop with Sandra Kerr. Haven't been able to stop playing them ever since.
I just posted my first try at composing a tune in 3/2, "Poddles" which I play as the last tune in a set with Little Fishie (from the Northumbrian Minstrelsy) then Rusty Gulley
# Posted on January 24th 2009 by lildogturpy
Re: Triple Hornpipes
If you will not have me .....
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/7431
Gorgeous tune!
# Posted on January 24th 2009 by spindizzy
Re: Triple Hornpipes
Dog Leap Stairs is a nice little one by Alistair Anderson - it's in the Tunes database. I think he promoted their recovery in Northumbrian music. 3/2s seem to have been very widely played in Britain in the c17 to early c19 period, and I don't think Northumbria had any special claim on the form: if anything North West England seems to have been an epicentre.
However, a Northern English / Southern Scottish repertoire used for the Border Pipes is being resurrected, along with that instrument. It includes more 3/2s than more recent phases of the local trad. In effect it's a sample of c18 music which, with its tunes and rhythms, ceased to be played much, or at all, some time in the c19, when the Border Pipes went out of fashion. (NB - these tunes can work extremely well on the fiddle too.)
Northumbrian music has always been much more tied in with Scottish music than with Irish - natural enough, seeing Scotland's just up the road and most of Northumberland was not a magnet for Irish immigration, being rural. In the c20 radio, Fiddle And Accordion Clubs ( a Scottish phenomenon also found in Northumberland), records and suchlike media enabled N/brian musicians to hear a great many Scottish tunes and play whichever suited them best: they've therefore made pretty eclectic use of Scottish music in general - Highland, Lowland, you name it - and composed many tunes in Scottish traditions - marches, strathspeys, schottisches, et cetera. There's a strong nexus with Shetland music because a lot of it suits N/brian dances and styles (I don't think there's ever been a major historical link between the two places).
# Posted on January 24th 2009 by nicholas
Re: Triple Hornpipes
Unfortunately it seems that the abc for Poddles wasn't appropriate here so it was take off the site, but you can find it in the 3/2 tune collection here, if you're interested
http://music.gordfisch.net/oregans/music/threetwo.php
# Posted on January 26th 2009 by lildogturpy