Hey all,
Anyone here own a clip on AKG c148 b-lock condenser mic?
I know a lad that has one for sale, its 2nd hand but hardly ever used....just wondering are they any good? At the moment I use a Shure beta52, but Im thinking the two might work well together, low and top ends etc?
Never have used such a beast, but they're doing much better with smaller mics these days. It's worth trying it out, if you can. A clip-on mic is somewhat handy for a bodhran, especially if you've got other instruments (bouzoukis and citterns, perhaps) crowding up the stage, and you can get one less mic stand, which is handy. So for replacing the mic on the stand, great idea. In a bar gig, though, there's really no need for two microphones on a bodhran, it's just more to fuss with for no real improvement in sound, and nobody's listening that much anyway. They want the beat, they want the fiddle, they want a song now and then, but mostly they want to talk to their friends and yell a lot and dance like fools. As long as the drum is in the mix, you're good.
Minimal is your best bet in the bars. Strip it down, keep it simple, that way you can clear the stage sooner and get down to drinking at the end of the night. Not to mention your soundcheck is exponentially more complicated - and longer and more annoying - with each added live mic on the stage. Get your clip-on, stick it in your bodhran bag, and carry one less stand to the job. Or else, save some money and get a snare clamp, the sort that you'd use to secure a '57 to the snare in a rock band. Lock your Shure onto the bodhran, and there you are. I did that for years, once I got wise to the ways of the lazy musician - my bodhran rig fig into the bag, and it was always packed.
We've used an AKG C418 clip-on condensor, then switched to an AudioTechnica AT35x Pro clip on condensor.
At a festival we heard Paddy League's bodhrán mic'd with an ElectroVoice 468 dynamic and it sounded wonderful. It's an egg-shaped element mounted in a stirrup-type mount for a mic stand. We got a short boom stand with a heavy foot and we can tuck it right up to the bodhrán and it's easy to adjust and doesn't obscure sight lines.
I found a 468 used for just over $100US and we've used it ever since. It gets the high 'scuffs' of the tipper on the head and the deep tones as well, it's really hardy and very easy to use, place and, if necessary, replace. It doesn't confuse inexperienced sound mixers because it doesn't need phantom power and it's very resistant (almost immune, in our application) to feedback.
I'd say buy it, it's a handy robust mic to have works well and aint too pitchy. For stage work it's handy-out no need for stands etc as already stated I tried an EV468 in Dolans found it very boxy but then the sound guy had his head up his a**e as usual!
We used a C418 clip-on condenser hard mounted in the rim for years. It was pretty good good if a little toppy and somewhat prone to feed-back.. We now have a Sennheiser e604 dynamic hard mounted which has a lot more bottom end and is less feed-back prone.Despite this I still insert a 32 band graphic EQ on the bod channel to notch out any problems and to tweak the sound . The band line-up is keys, elec fiddle,bod and elec guitar. One item that we have that is of immense value is a no-thump muting footswitch. Used on the bod it means that it can be muted and then is not problematical when not in play. Getting rid of mic stands is great we just had to be careful of the thin lead on the 418. The 604 is standard Xlr so is more robust and visible
i think an audio technica atm350 is the right job altogether, works great on bodhrans, and its wholly inobtrusive, plus they'l work on
ANY instrument, sean kean and oisin mac diarmada use them on their fiddles, and i havent heard my fiddle sound better with any other mic since either!
Bodhran Mic.......???
Bodhran Mic.......???
Hey all,
Anyone here own a clip on AKG c148 b-lock condenser mic?
I know a lad that has one for sale, its 2nd hand but hardly ever used....just wondering are they any good? At the moment I use a Shure beta52, but Im thinking the two might work well together, low and top ends etc?
All the best.
# Posted on November 1st 2008 by seaniemcg
Re: Bodhran Mic.......???
Two work well. Check out Bodojo - they surveyed members who came out recommending a paired Shure Beta 52 and Shure SM 81.
# Posted on November 1st 2008 by clogstepping
Re: Bodhran Mic.......???
Never have used such a beast, but they're doing much better with smaller mics these days. It's worth trying it out, if you can. A clip-on mic is somewhat handy for a bodhran, especially if you've got other instruments (bouzoukis and citterns, perhaps) crowding up the stage, and you can get one less mic stand, which is handy. So for replacing the mic on the stand, great idea. In a bar gig, though, there's really no need for two microphones on a bodhran, it's just more to fuss with for no real improvement in sound, and nobody's listening that much anyway. They want the beat, they want the fiddle, they want a song now and then, but mostly they want to talk to their friends and yell a lot and dance like fools. As long as the drum is in the mix, you're good.
Minimal is your best bet in the bars. Strip it down, keep it simple, that way you can clear the stage sooner and get down to drinking at the end of the night. Not to mention your soundcheck is exponentially more complicated - and longer and more annoying - with each added live mic on the stage. Get your clip-on, stick it in your bodhran bag, and carry one less stand to the job. Or else, save some money and get a snare clamp, the sort that you'd use to secure a '57 to the snare in a rock band. Lock your Shure onto the bodhran, and there you are. I did that for years, once I got wise to the ways of the lazy musician - my bodhran rig fig into the bag, and it was always packed.
# Posted on November 2nd 2008 by Jon Kiparsky
Re: Bodhran Mic.......???
We've used an AKG C418 clip-on condensor, then switched to an AudioTechnica AT35x Pro clip on condensor.
At a festival we heard Paddy League's bodhrán mic'd with an ElectroVoice 468 dynamic and it sounded wonderful. It's an egg-shaped element mounted in a stirrup-type mount for a mic stand. We got a short boom stand with a heavy foot and we can tuck it right up to the bodhrán and it's easy to adjust and doesn't obscure sight lines.
I found a 468 used for just over $100US and we've used it ever since. It gets the high 'scuffs' of the tipper on the head and the deep tones as well, it's really hardy and very easy to use, place and, if necessary, replace. It doesn't confuse inexperienced sound mixers because it doesn't need phantom power and it's very resistant (almost immune, in our application) to feedback.
We used it in our recording our CD, too.
I hope this helps.
stv
http://cdbaby.com/Culchies
# Posted on November 2nd 2008 by stv culchie
Re: Bodhran Mic.......???
How's things Seanie,
I'd say buy it, it's a handy robust mic to have works well and aint too pitchy. For stage work it's handy-out no need for stands etc as already stated I tried an EV468 in Dolans found it very boxy but then the sound guy had his head up his a**e as usual!
Now I stick to a C419 & SM57 handy enough mic's
If it's going at a reasonable price grab it, it'l
Mike
# Posted on November 2nd 2008 by newdeafman
Re: Bodhran Mic.......???
We used a C418 clip-on condenser hard mounted in the rim for years. It was pretty good good if a little toppy and somewhat prone to feed-back.. We now have a Sennheiser e604 dynamic hard mounted which has a lot more bottom end and is less feed-back prone.Despite this I still insert a 32 band graphic EQ on the bod channel to notch out any problems and to tweak the sound . The band line-up is keys, elec fiddle,bod and elec guitar. One item that we have that is of immense value is a no-thump muting footswitch. Used on the bod it means that it can be muted and then is not problematical when not in play. Getting rid of mic stands is great we just had to be careful of the thin lead on the 418. The 604 is standard Xlr so is more robust and visible
# Posted on November 2nd 2008 by DickT
Re: Bodhran Mic.......???
A bodhran doesn't need a mic at a session. If you are on stage, in concert, get a bass guitar. Sounds better.
# Posted on November 3rd 2008 by bodhran bliss
Re: Bodhran Mic.......???
i think an audio technica atm350 is the right job altogether, works great on bodhrans, and its wholly inobtrusive, plus they'l work on
ANY instrument, sean kean and oisin mac diarmada use them on their fiddles, and i havent heard my fiddle sound better with any other mic since either!
# Posted on November 4th 2008 by fishtyfiddle