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elusive tune

elusive tune

this isnt a tune request jeremy although it may look like one
ive had this first part going around in my head for a while and i have the main gist of the second part too
i dont know where i heard it or where it comes from or what its name could be
its a four part jig though that i know
also the first part goes something like this
dAF FEF FEF F2B AFD EFD EFD EFA dAF FEF DFA d2e fed cdB cAG# ABc:
and i have typed the first two bars into all the abc search engines i could think of including here with no success
i thought of just going through all the jigs in d but there are rather a few so gave up after a page or so

anybody??

# Posted on July 29th 2003 by timo

Re: elusive tune

Could it be The Lark in the Morning? Sounds a bit like the third part.

Cara

# Posted on July 29th 2003 by carafiddle

Re: elusive tune

Timo, the tune is Gillan's Apples. You'll find it in Dmaj (as you wrote it here) on Contentment is Wealth (Matt Molloy and Sean Keane). It's also sometimes played in G maj.

# Posted on July 29th 2003 by Miss Lonelyhearts

Re: elusive tune

Incidentally, the Gillan's Apples posted in the tune archives here is not the same tune.

# Posted on July 29th 2003 by Miss Lonelyhearts

Re: elusive tune

So I just posted the 4-part setting I'm familiar with.

# Posted on July 29th 2003 by Miss Lonelyhearts

Re: elusive tune

I was going to say it looked very like Gillian's Apples but you beat me to it, Will. The 2 part tune in the archives is misnamed and is in fact "The Humours of Drinagh".
Chris

# Posted on July 29th 2003 by milesnagopaleen

Re: elusive tune

Good work Will and Chris.

The two-part version in G is a great old tune too, so I'll post that.

BTW shouldn't it always be "Gillan's" (Irish family name with a hard G) rather than "Gill_i_an's" (girl's first name with a soft G not often heard in Ireland)?

Steve

# Posted on July 30th 2003 by Jeeves Tones

Re: elusive tune

I always assumed the added "i" was a typo and some people pronounced it wrong based on that, but I have no definitive source for the name either way.

# Posted on July 30th 2003 by Miss Lonelyhearts

Re: elusive tune

Will's Spelling is indeed correct. I don't know how the 'i' crept in! Steve your 2 part tune is the one that first came to my mind. So well done Steve and Will for sorting that one out!
Chris

# Posted on July 30th 2003 by milesnagopaleen

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Well, the "i" creeps in a lot--it's quite common to see it spelled that way, or to hear it pronounced as Steve says, with the soft G. I too had assumed that was chiefly an American bastardization....

# Posted on July 30th 2003 by Miss Lonelyhearts

Re: elusive tune

thanks a million will
it is definitely the tune i had driving me a little potty
i could hum and play away the first two parts knowing there were two more parts but just not being able to put my hum let alone my fingers around it
first time its happened really that a tune like that has popped back into my head after a few months hearing it and really driving me around the twist
it was so persistant in fact that i am very grateful for the salvation you have procured ;-)
as a follow on
is it common occurance for this type of thing to occur
hearing a tune like that, thinking oh yeh thats a pretty nice tune
and then
say six or seven months on it just suddenly pops back out and either comes out through the fingers or drive you mad?

# Posted on July 30th 2003 by timo

Re: elusive tune

Glad to help.

Heh, Timo, learning tunes by osmosis is how you know you're a genuine trad musician! Go to enough sessions and listen to all those tunes week after week, and pretty soon they just ooze into your aural memory. Next thing you know, you can play tunes you've never officially learned.

Mind you, at first, you may only gets bits and parts rather than whole tunes, or just the less complicated tunes, but eventually you'll pick up just about anything this way. Maybe that's what they mean when they say this music is "infectious." :o)

Sounds like you've caught it!

# Posted on July 30th 2003 by Miss Lonelyhearts

Re: elusive tune

well if its a disease i hope it develops into a highly advanced infectuous stage and also rather that there is no cure
although a cure i guess in this illness would probably involve a lot of music, fulfilling some sort of craving
an infectious entity the music would after inoculation become highly addictive

i like the osmosis concept but im pretty certain that stage where tunes are played without official learning is a fair way away in my case
ah well one day
theres no rush after all

# Posted on July 30th 2003 by timo

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