It's under letter S as it features my favourite tune, Sanctuary, by Bela Fleck.
As for those horrified by the appearance of a Bluegrass request, these guys play stuff like Soldier's Joy, St Anne's Reel, Whiskey before Breakfast - stuff you can also hear at a good Irish session.
For Tanya Lee Teraoshi's benefit Bluegrass has a LOT to do with Irish music as many of the tunes can trace a direct link back to Ireland, and the UK. I love both styles and when I kick off a couple of bluegrass tunes at an Irish session they ALWAYS go down really well....even the piper joins in.
At Hammersmith Irish Centre a few months ago we played Turkey in the Straw as an Irish hornpipe (see O'Neill's) in G and then really launched into it as a breakdown, in D, on the harp, fiddle, flute and guitar.
Mmmmm! Breakdown! (Homer moment)
Many of my muso pals enjoy both traditions and are more into inclusivity than exclusivity and see nothing wrong with a bit of cross-fertilisation. Ooer missus!
Get some early Dillards CDs for Duellin Banjos. Flatt and Scruggs, and Bill Monroe of course.
I'm off to practice Orange Blossom Special (Sligo style)
I have all manner of respect for the musicianship and dedication of bluegrassers when they're doing their own thing, but let's keep the discussion to Irish Music, please...I have enough problems dealing with a bluegrasser who thinks he can play irish music at my session.
If it's any consolation cthuilleannpiper, I would only ever play one or two bluegrass tunes at an Irish session and usually when asked.
I'm interested to know how your "bluegrasser" plays the jigs and reels, if you can bring yourself to describe it, or does he/she impose his stuff on the session?
Scraper is right, Crannog, about Devil's Dream. It's an Americanisation of the Scottish tune.
By the way Scraper, we are playing at Ullapool on August 21st prior to our tour of Lewis, Harris and Uist if you can make it over from Gairloch.
That's fine if you limit it to one or two tunes when asked, Geoff, that's very polite and the right way to go about it. Fair play to you.
This guy is a full time professional dabbler who plays jazz as well as bluegrass and Irish music. His attack is stylistically inappropriate for ITM: too loud, too fast, too far out ahead of the beat with a nasty tendency to rush, no "lift" or "lilt". No lyricism at all...Plays hornpipes and jigs way too fast. He tries to start too many sets and learns tunes just well enough to be able to execute them on a St Patrick's Day gig or at an irish-american wedding for the $$. If there is a senior musician there who plays a little slowly, he tries to push the tempo. If somebody plays something he doesn't know, he wants to know the title and provenance immediately. He learns from the dots instead of his ears. Worst of all, he thinks he has nothing to learn - and he's one of the paid musicians who helps run it.
The session ends up feeling like a high-pressure jam and it hurts the craic rather badly in my opinion.
Wow, that sounds terrible, cthuilleanpiper. The only thing you can really do is start a new session somewhere else and keep it closed/invite only....but I think there are a lot of threads on this subject already. How do you get rid of that player who ruins the session?? No simple or easy solution....
This guy sounds like me when I started thirty years ago. I thought I knew far more than I actually did and played everything too fast. I now realise how little I still know and the fun is the learning.
Sorry folks - I agree with Tanya on this one, tunes like Soldier's Joy, St Anne's Reel and Whiskey before Breakfast are real shocker tunes. Irish Tunes may have something to do with Blugrass tunes but it doesnt work the other way. I have enough respect for bluegrass players to not go into a bluegrass session and start playing trad. cthuilleannpiper I would say straight out to this annoying player what you think. You may seem like youre being mean, but it will hopefully make him take a hard look at the way he plays and in the end will be better for you all. I wouldnt stand for that sort of behaviour in the session I go to!
It must be hard to enjoy a session if you feel obliged to walk out everytime someone plays a tune you don't like! Or maybe I'm lucky and they don't play any horrid, sickening tunes here in London due to their cosmopolitan good taste.
Geoff, I was at your gig at the Hammersmith Irish Centre, enjoyed it a lot and bought the CD as well! And Turkey in the Straw was a hoot...
I'll say hello next time I come to one of your gigs, honest. I'm on Harriet's mailing list, though come to think of it, haven't had any mailings since that gig. Is she not playing in these parts at the moment?
I'm reminded of another walk-out... at Ennis trad fest last year, two people I knew decided to leave the Paddy Glackin & Micheal O Domhnaill concert halfway through, professing themselves bored. When I ran into one of them the next day, she said she didn't like Paddy's slow airs. When I (disingenuously) asked if she didn't like slow airs, she said 'oh no, I love slow airs - it's just that the way he plays them is *disgusting*'...
Yeah, I agree with Tanya & BB on this one too: Keep the bluegrass & old timey stuff out of the Irish sessions...Please......
In Burlington Vermont, an Old-timey session started up several months ago.(Sundays at 1:00pm- Radio Bean) I wouldn't dare show up and play Irish tunes....If I was in town, I might stop in for a few minutes and just listen since I do appreciate all kinds of music, but that's it....
I was so upset last time I went to London a few years back...we stayed blocks away from the Hammersmith Irish Centre which I hadn't realized existed until then...and couldn't make any of the sessions or concerts going on at that point. *sigh*
Geoff. Yohan. Stop winding Tanya up, that's not friendly like. Bad boys. No biscuit. *grin* A thwack on the nose with the newspaper of justice will be yours soon if you don't straighten up...*snort*
Helen, can't imagine finding Paddy's slow airs disgusting...I mean...*disgusting*? Disgusting? The mind boggles just a bit...
Helen!
I wish I had known you were there! Let me know the next time you are at the Herschel and I'll get over there. It would be good to meet you.
Sorry Zina...but it's too easy...besides I think the irony was wasted anyway.
On reflection I am ashamed of myself and will go and destroy all my original Mercury recordings of Flatt & Scruggs and Bill Monroe's entire output and will listen to Tommy Potts for the rest of the evening (except when the Tour de France highlights are on).
I have seen the light. Bluegrass and Old Time has nothing to do with Irish/UK tradition. All the tunes just magically appeared in a vision in 1935 in Kentucky.
I think you said it once Zina in the first thread I ever posted about playing in different styles...that you just wanted to concentrate on one, and that possibly on this side of the pond we were not so worried about having the occasional non-Irish offering. I think this is true. At most sessions I play at there will be a preoponderance (85-90% ish) of Irish but a smattering of Eastern European ....and Klezmer tunes are popular too. Perhaps the further away from a tradition one is, physically, the more one feels the need to guard it fiercely.
Hmm...I don't know that I need to guard the tradition so much as find a way to keep any gains I've made from slipping, Geoff... *grin* If it's of any use to you, over here a lot of people don't like bluegrass and oldtime the same way in Ireland some people don't like trad. And don't get me started on Country & Western...
I know what you mean about Country and Western! Kitsch doen't even begin to cover it. In Ireland it is VERY popular however, and you are right ...there are some people over here who don't like trad. but they are looked after very carefully, only allowed out with minders and never have access to sharp objects.
Oy I'm so glad to see someone else on this site enjoys Kitsch as much as I do! We always manage to play some Kitsch at our session...the Kitsch on the Mountain, the oft-maligned Kitsch Jig, and there's that classic, The Cook in the Kitschen. In fact, a few of us have even decided to start a Kitsch session on another night of the week so we can indulge ourselves without fear of being interrupted by other genres. Lucky for us, there was space available on Saturday nights at the local A&W rootbeer stand. Right now we're working through the tunes on the "Boston Pops Does Ireland" cd, and next week we'll start in on the "Polskas and Flings of Barry Manilow" collection.
Heck, I've stumbled into the midst of diddly music apartheid, although I am not squeaky clean myself, as I have been heard to describe some modern bands passing my way, as 'dispensers of sonic sewerage'(from a safe distance of course) . Have I entered the wrong door, thinking that this site was dedicated to Traditional Music, not just ITM. If so I do apologise.
Geoff, thanks for the information about your intended gig in Ullapool. I have e-mailed you, asking for details, as I would like to go over and listen to you and 'Siansa'
Yes, scraper, I'm afraid that this is a site for Irish trad, not trad...though we never mind a peep or so out of something or someone else. So long as it's just a peep, of course. *grin*
Scraper, this site is indeed dedicated to 'The Music' - the Irish kind, that is. Don't let the tasteful absence of shamrocks, harps and Celtic-y typescripts fool you...
I feel I have to stand up in favour of Country music, here! What about Hank Williams, Johnny Cash, Merle Travis, Willie Nelson, Patsy Cline, Loretta Lynn, Buck Owens..?
Alright, there might be the odd kitsch moment there, but let's differentiate between Hank Williams (against whom I will not hear a word) and Garth Brooks (about whom you can say what you like).
I agree Helen. I think there is a difference between Country music and Country and Western (but don't ask me what it is)
I don't like the "hat" bands...Brooks, Yoakam et al ( I particularly don't like al)...formulaic bollo!*%
But Hank Williams was great.
And Willy Nelson.
OK! And Patsy Cline too.
I fear I have just lost all credibility with Zina and Tanya Lee. BTW have you heard the Canadian trio the Be Good Tanyas? Brilliant. The name is particulary apposite at present
It is about Irish music Scraper but, as you can see, we can get sidetracked into related traditions.
P.S. Helen I will admonish Harriet when I see her next week and tell her to send you a postcard.
LOL -- That's Ms. Goddess to you, scraper. *grin* Actually, I quite like Patsy Cline; if I have to listen to C&Dub, then I'll take Patsy over most. I did a show called Greater Tuna once, and we listened to a lot of Patsy during that, so I even know some of the words.
Old is correct, but regarding Don Williams, I had taken it for granted that Don williams was a brother of Hank, for he seemed to imply this in one of his songs. However, in searching the WEB, I can find no evidence of this. I first came across Don Williams one day, when I was driving a hired van across Ontario from Alquonin Park to Haliburton (Canada). This van was filled to the brim with nieces and nephews from England and they passed a Don Williams cassette to me and asked me to play it. Eloquence is really not my strong point, so instead I will borrow from a WEB site:
"Don Williams is a freak! ...Not just a normal everyday one, but a special freak! You see, in a business filled with pill-heads, alcoholics, drug addicts, phoneys, etc, we have found a straight person with talent and lots of soul ...a kind person with depth, much love and concern for people, very honest and sincere."
I truly endorse this, after having listened to more of his recordings. That fist recording was probably 'The Best of Don Williams' and now I listen to 'Images'.
Crikey! I had better exit quickly, for my way has not exactly been strewn with Shamrocks, harps and Celtic-y typescripts.
I'll listen out for Don Williams, then. I'm sure I've heard him, just can't place it...
No, he's not related to Hank, so far as I ever heard. I have seen Hank Williams' grandson play, though - Hank Williams III. He looks the spitting image of him, and sadly has some of the same self-destructive instincts... but his show is great, if you like that kind of thing (which I do) - the first half is Hank Williams songs, and the second half is Death Metal meets Punk Rock... He does issue a kind of 'leave now if you want to' health warning at half-time.
But it's spooky as well, to see someone living in someone else's shadow like that - imagine thinking of yourself as a third edition. Kind of worrying...
Helen,
You do have a way with words. I had quite never seen Hank Williams III like that before, but you certainly conjure up a less then flattering image.
To sample Don Williams, try out, 'She's in love with a Rodeo Man. It is certainly a word picture set to music.
I just looked up Don Williams - still can't remember what I've heard by him, but I read the lyrics to the Rodeo Man song - woh! Yes, that packs a punch.
Bluegrass
Bluegrass
Where can I find some fast instrumental bluegrass banjo mp3 samples. Like the duellin banjos tune "The real tune not the one I posted"
# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by banjomad
Re: Bluegrass
I would try Kazaa or something like that, you could come up with almost anything your after................I would think.
Erin
# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by erin
Re: Bluegrass
The real name of that tune, by the way, is "Feuding Banjos", or mose likely "Feudn' Banjos"
# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by Don
Re: Bluegrass
Hi,
I love Irish AND Bluegrass - try
http://www.alltabs.com/banjo_list.html
and
http://www.banjohangout.org/tab/browse.asp?m=byletter&v=S
It's under letter S as it features my favourite tune, Sanctuary, by Bela Fleck.
As for those horrified by the appearance of a Bluegrass request, these guys play stuff like Soldier's Joy, St Anne's Reel, Whiskey before Breakfast - stuff you can also hear at a good Irish session.
# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by Cath
Re: Bluegrass
For Tanya Lee Teraoshi's benefit Bluegrass has a LOT to do with Irish music as many of the tunes can trace a direct link back to Ireland, and the UK. I love both styles and when I kick off a couple of bluegrass tunes at an Irish session they ALWAYS go down really well....even the piper joins in.
At Hammersmith Irish Centre a few months ago we played Turkey in the Straw as an Irish hornpipe (see O'Neill's) in G and then really launched into it as a breakdown, in D, on the harp, fiddle, flute and guitar.
Mmmmm! Breakdown! (Homer moment)
Many of my muso pals enjoy both traditions and are more into inclusivity than exclusivity and see nothing wrong with a bit of cross-fertilisation. Ooer missus!
Get some early Dillards CDs for Duellin Banjos. Flatt and Scruggs, and Bill Monroe of course.
I'm off to practice Orange Blossom Special (Sligo style)
# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by Geoff Pollitt
Re: Bluegrass
Orange Blossom Special - now there is a great tune...
# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by Yohan
Re: Bluegrass
.. am I wrong the devil
# Posted on July 23rd 2003 by crannog
Re: Bluegrass
Crannog:
'The Devil's Dream' is an alternative name for 'The De'il Amang the Tailors'.
# Posted on July 24th 2003 by scraper
Re: Bluegrass
I have all manner of respect for the musicianship and dedication of bluegrassers when they're doing their own thing, but let's keep the discussion to Irish Music, please...I have enough problems dealing with a bluegrasser who thinks he can play irish music at my session.
# Posted on July 24th 2003 by Hanley
Re: Bluegrass
If it's any consolation cthuilleannpiper, I would only ever play one or two bluegrass tunes at an Irish session and usually when asked.
I'm interested to know how your "bluegrasser" plays the jigs and reels, if you can bring yourself to describe it, or does he/she impose his stuff on the session?
Scraper is right, Crannog, about Devil's Dream. It's an Americanisation of the Scottish tune.
By the way Scraper, we are playing at Ullapool on August 21st prior to our tour of Lewis, Harris and Uist if you can make it over from Gairloch.
# Posted on July 24th 2003 by Geoff Pollitt
Re: Bluegrass
That's fine if you limit it to one or two tunes when asked, Geoff, that's very polite and the right way to go about it. Fair play to you.
This guy is a full time professional dabbler who plays jazz as well as bluegrass and Irish music. His attack is stylistically inappropriate for ITM: too loud, too fast, too far out ahead of the beat with a nasty tendency to rush, no "lift" or "lilt". No lyricism at all...Plays hornpipes and jigs way too fast. He tries to start too many sets and learns tunes just well enough to be able to execute them on a St Patrick's Day gig or at an irish-american wedding for the $$. If there is a senior musician there who plays a little slowly, he tries to push the tempo. If somebody plays something he doesn't know, he wants to know the title and provenance immediately. He learns from the dots instead of his ears. Worst of all, he thinks he has nothing to learn - and he's one of the paid musicians who helps run it.
The session ends up feeling like a high-pressure jam and it hurts the craic rather badly in my opinion.
Time for a coup d'etat, if you ask me...
# Posted on July 24th 2003 by Hanley
Re: Bluegrass
Wow, that sounds terrible, cthuilleanpiper. The only thing you can really do is start a new session somewhere else and keep it closed/invite only....but I think there are a lot of threads on this subject already. How do you get rid of that player who ruins the session?? No simple or easy solution....
# Posted on July 24th 2003 by JMH
Re: Bluegrass
"...am I wrong the devil
# Posted on July 24th 2003 by MichaelBolton
Re: Bluegrass
This guy sounds like me when I started thirty years ago. I thought I knew far more than I actually did and played everything too fast. I now realise how little I still know and the fun is the learning.
# Posted on July 24th 2003 by Geoff Pollitt
Re: Bluegrass
Sorry folks - I agree with Tanya on this one, tunes like Soldier's Joy, St Anne's Reel and Whiskey before Breakfast are real shocker tunes. Irish Tunes may have something to do with Blugrass tunes but it doesnt work the other way. I have enough respect for bluegrass players to not go into a bluegrass session and start playing trad. cthuilleannpiper I would say straight out to this annoying player what you think. You may seem like youre being mean, but it will hopefully make him take a hard look at the way he plays and in the end will be better for you all. I wouldnt stand for that sort of behaviour in the session I go to!
# Posted on July 24th 2003 by bb
Re: Bluegrass
Tanya - please say what you really think about that duellin banjos tune...
# Posted on July 24th 2003 by Yohan
Re: Bluegrass
I'm with Yohan on this one. Please, please, please say what you think Tanya.
# Posted on July 24th 2003 by Geoff Pollitt
Re: Bluegrass
It must be hard to enjoy a session if you feel obliged to walk out everytime someone plays a tune you don't like!
Or maybe I'm lucky and they don't play any horrid, sickening tunes here in London due to their cosmopolitan good taste.
Geoff, I was at your gig at the Hammersmith Irish Centre, enjoyed it a lot and bought the CD as well! And Turkey in the Straw was a hoot...
I'll say hello next time I come to one of your gigs, honest. I'm on Harriet's mailing list, though come to think of it, haven't had any mailings since that gig. Is she not playing in these parts at the moment?
# Posted on July 24th 2003 by Nell
I'm reminded of another walk-out... at Ennis trad fest last year, two people I knew decided to leave the Paddy Glackin & Micheal O Domhnaill concert halfway through, professing themselves bored. When I ran into one of them the next day, she said she didn't like Paddy's slow airs. When I (disingenuously) asked if she didn't like slow airs, she said 'oh no, I love slow airs - it's just that the way he plays them is *disgusting*'...
Well, what can ya say?
# Posted on July 24th 2003 by Nell
Re: Bluegrass
Yeah, I agree with Tanya & BB on this one too: Keep the bluegrass & old timey stuff out of the Irish sessions...Please......
In Burlington Vermont, an Old-timey session started up several months ago.(Sundays at 1:00pm- Radio Bean) I wouldn't dare show up and play Irish tunes....If I was in town, I might stop in for a few minutes and just listen since I do appreciate all kinds of music, but that's it....
Joyce
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by JMH
Re: Bluegrass
I was so upset last time I went to London a few years back...we stayed blocks away from the Hammersmith Irish Centre which I hadn't realized existed until then...and couldn't make any of the sessions or concerts going on at that point. *sigh*
Geoff. Yohan. Stop winding Tanya up, that's not friendly like. Bad boys. No biscuit. *grin* A thwack on the nose with the newspaper of justice will be yours soon if you don't straighten up...*snort*
Helen, can't imagine finding Paddy's slow airs disgusting...I mean...*disgusting*? Disgusting? The mind boggles just a bit...
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: Bluegrass
Zina, that's a shame! Next time, hey?
Yep, 'disgusting' seemed strange to the point of madness. I had to struggle to keep a straight face...
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Nell
Re: Bluegrass
Helen!
I wish I had known you were there! Let me know the next time you are at the Herschel and I'll get over there. It would be good to meet you.
Sorry Zina...but it's too easy...besides I think the irony was wasted anyway.
On reflection I am ashamed of myself and will go and destroy all my original Mercury recordings of Flatt & Scruggs and Bill Monroe's entire output and will listen to Tommy Potts for the rest of the evening (except when the Tour de France highlights are on).
I have seen the light. Bluegrass and Old Time has nothing to do with Irish/UK tradition. All the tunes just magically appeared in a vision in 1935 in Kentucky.
I think you said it once Zina in the first thread I ever posted about playing in different styles...that you just wanted to concentrate on one, and that possibly on this side of the pond we were not so worried about having the occasional non-Irish offering. I think this is true. At most sessions I play at there will be a preoponderance (85-90% ish) of Irish but a smattering of Eastern European ....and Klezmer tunes are popular too. Perhaps the further away from a tradition one is, physically, the more one feels the need to guard it fiercely.
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Geoff Pollitt
Re: Bluegrass
Hmm...I don't know that I need to guard the tradition so much as find a way to keep any gains I've made from slipping, Geoff... *grin* If it's of any use to you, over here a lot of people don't like bluegrass and oldtime the same way in Ireland some people don't like trad. And don't get me started on Country & Western...
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: Bluegrass
I know what you mean about Country and Western! Kitsch doen't even begin to cover it. In Ireland it is VERY popular however, and you are right ...there are some people over here who don't like trad. but they are looked after very carefully, only allowed out with minders and never have access to sharp objects.
I'm off to play my Tammy Wynette collection!
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Geoff Pollitt
Re: Bluegrass
Oy I'm so glad to see someone else on this site enjoys Kitsch as much as I do! We always manage to play some Kitsch at our session...the Kitsch on the Mountain, the oft-maligned Kitsch Jig, and there's that classic, The Cook in the Kitschen. In fact, a few of us have even decided to start a Kitsch session on another night of the week so we can indulge ourselves without fear of being interrupted by other genres. Lucky for us, there was space available on Saturday nights at the local A&W rootbeer stand. Right now we're working through the tunes on the "Boston Pops Does Ireland" cd, and next week we'll start in on the "Polskas and Flings of Barry Manilow" collection.
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Will Harmon
Re: Bluegrass
Heck, I've stumbled into the midst of diddly music apartheid,
although I am not squeaky clean myself, as I have been heard to describe some modern bands passing my way, as 'dispensers of sonic sewerage'(from a safe distance of course) . Have I entered the wrong door, thinking that this site was dedicated to Traditional Music, not just ITM. If so I do apologise.
Geoff, thanks for the information about your intended gig in Ullapool. I have e-mailed you, asking for details, as I would like to go over and listen to you and 'Siansa'
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by scraper
Re: Bluegrass
Yes, scraper, I'm afraid that this is a site for Irish trad, not trad...though we never mind a peep or so out of something or someone else. So long as it's just a peep, of course. *grin*
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: Bluegrass
Scraper, this site is indeed dedicated to 'The Music' - the Irish kind, that is. Don't let the tasteful absence of shamrocks, harps and Celtic-y typescripts fool you...
I feel I have to stand up in favour of Country music, here! What about Hank Williams, Johnny Cash, Merle Travis, Willie Nelson, Patsy Cline, Loretta Lynn, Buck Owens..?
Alright, there might be the odd kitsch moment there, but let's differentiate between Hank Williams (against whom I will not hear a word) and Garth Brooks (about whom you can say what you like).
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Nell
Re: Bluegrass
I can listen to about half an hour of Country AND Western before I start breaking out in hives.... ;)
zls
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: Bluegrass
Dear Zina and Helen, goddesses of the site, thank you for putting me on the straight and narrow.
Helen: Mistress of eloquence too, and probably the only credible asset left to the BBC, what about Don Williams then!
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by scraper
Re: Bluegrass
Goodness, Scraper, you old flatterer! You know the old saying, 'flattery will get you nowhere' - it's not true at all!
Don Williams - remind me... I don't have any of his stuff and I've forgotten who he is.
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Nell
Re: Bluegrass
I agree Helen. I think there is a difference between Country music and Country and Western (but don't ask me what it is)
I don't like the "hat" bands...Brooks, Yoakam et al ( I particularly don't like al)...formulaic bollo!*%
But Hank Williams was great.
And Willy Nelson.
OK! And Patsy Cline too.
I fear I have just lost all credibility with Zina and Tanya Lee. BTW have you heard the Canadian trio the Be Good Tanyas? Brilliant. The name is particulary apposite at present
It is about Irish music Scraper but, as you can see, we can get sidetracked into related traditions.
P.S. Helen I will admonish Harriet when I see her next week and tell her to send you a postcard.
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Geoff Pollitt
Re: Bluegrass
Junior Brown is a hoot, too--I mean Hrrrumph!
Back to ITM!
; )
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Hanley
Re: Bluegrass
LOL -- That's Ms. Goddess to you, scraper. *grin* Actually, I quite like Patsy Cline; if I have to listen to C&Dub, then I'll take Patsy over most. I did a show called Greater Tuna once, and we listened to a lot of Patsy during that, so I even know some of the words.
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: Bluegrass
I.....fall....to pieces.....
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Hanley
Re: Bluegrass
Helen,
Old is correct, but regarding Don Williams, I had taken it for granted that Don williams was a brother of Hank, for he seemed to imply this in one of his songs. However, in searching the WEB, I can find no evidence of this. I first came across Don Williams one day, when I was driving a hired van across Ontario from Alquonin Park to Haliburton (Canada). This van was filled to the brim with nieces and nephews from England and they passed a Don Williams cassette to me and asked me to play it. Eloquence is really not my strong point, so instead I will borrow from a WEB site:
"Don Williams is a freak! ...Not just a normal everyday one, but a special freak! You see, in a business filled with pill-heads, alcoholics, drug addicts, phoneys, etc, we have found a straight person with talent and lots of soul ...a kind person with depth, much love and concern for people, very honest and sincere."
I truly endorse this, after having listened to more of his recordings. That fist recording was probably 'The Best of Don Williams' and now I listen to 'Images'.
Crikey! I had better exit quickly, for my way has not exactly been strewn with Shamrocks, harps and Celtic-y typescripts.
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by scraper
Bluegrass
Zina,
Sorry that I neglected to add the Ms. before Goddess. There must have been something wrong with my keyboard
Anyway keep those wonderful posts a'coming.
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by scraper
Re: Bluegrass
Zina,
Way wide of the mark here, but what does LOL mean?
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by scraper
Re: Bluegrass
LOL = laugh out loud
ROFL = rolling on floor laughing
ROFLMAO = rolling on floor laughing my a** off
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Zina Lee
Bluegrass
Zina,
Thanks for the definitions, now I don't whether to be embarrassed or not!
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by scraper
Re: Bluegrass
I'll listen out for Don Williams, then. I'm sure I've heard him, just can't place it...
No, he's not related to Hank, so far as I ever heard. I have seen Hank Williams' grandson play, though - Hank Williams III. He looks the spitting image of him, and sadly has some of the same self-destructive instincts... but his show is great, if you like that kind of thing (which I do) - the first half is Hank Williams songs, and the second half is Death Metal meets Punk Rock... He does issue a kind of 'leave now if you want to' health warning at half-time.
But it's spooky as well, to see someone living in someone else's shadow like that - imagine thinking of yourself as a third edition. Kind of worrying...
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Nell
Bluegrass
Helen,
You do have a way with words. I had quite never seen Hank Williams III like that before, but you certainly conjure up a less then flattering image.
To sample Don Williams, try out, 'She's in love with a Rodeo Man. It is certainly a word picture set to music.
Oh dear!, off target again!
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by scraper
Re: Bluegrass
There you go with the flattery again... shucks!
I just looked up Don Williams - still can't remember what I've heard by him, but I read the lyrics to the Rodeo Man song - woh! Yes, that packs a punch.
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Nell
Bluegrass
Helen:
With all of that flattery, do you think that I now qualify as an Irishman?
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by scraper
Re: Bluegrass
Dunno, how much of it is BS? ;)
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: Bluegrass
Zina,
Then maybe I don't qualify, for none of it is BS!
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by scraper
Re: Bluegrass
Ah, but to be a classic Irish rou
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Nell
Re: Bluegrass
LOL -- temperature changes, Helen...temperature changes... *grin*
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: Bluegrass
Ah yes, like bathroom taps!
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by Nell
Re: Bluegrass
Great, girls!, keep it up. We have (or at least I have) transformed Bluegrass into RoueSass.
Sleep well!
# Posted on July 25th 2003 by scraper
Re: Bluegrass
appreciate that sorting devil
# Posted on July 28th 2003 by crannog