Exclude / Excluding / Exclusive / Exclusion? (segregation)
Include / Including / Inclusive / Inclusion? (integration)
Occupancy Limits?
In your circle or circles, with regards to tradition,
does your group represent a community or a clique?
Is your age group mostly limited to a decade or two?
Or, does it have a wide selection of ages and types?
Are you primarily 'professionals', degreed, teachers, computer geeks ~ ?
Or, are you All-Sorts?
Is your participation limited ~ just music, just dance, just audience?
Or do you enjoy and participate in more than one aspect of tradition?
Do you consider yourself a 'musician'? ~ a 'dancer'? How important is that distinction?
Do you musicians have dancers to answer your music? - or are you better off without that distraction?
Do you dancers have live music to lift your dance? - or is it just easier, more reliable and less troublesome to use recordings?
Do you think exclusion has a purpose, serves a positive end, or not?
Do you think inclusion has a purpose, serves a positive end, or not?
Sorry, hardly new, but I've been noticing that in some realms and influences MacDonald's farm has been tending to specialize, a very short song, even though the wisdom is not to invest everything in one thing, but to diversify. So, the focus is there, about inclusion and exclusion, and wondering what people think is the best balance, if balance is what is desired? Whatever your preference, what is it you do that you think contributes to your goals best? What would you recommend to others to get a wider representation of ages at your events, and types ~ if it is desired? ~ And if not, what do you do and recommend for accomplishing a more select assemblage?
Why? We've taken part in some set dance workshops and noticed that too often, in our sense of things, the age groups have been mostly within 2 decades, with rare exception, and that they are just getting older and less in numbers. On the top end they are tending to burn out or get injuries that eventually mean they leave the scene. While, on the other side of it, in these instances, there isn't a balance, in that for every oldie that the press for speed and volume eventually does in, there doesn't seem to be an equal and opposite thing happening with younger folk coming along to replace them, not meaning that is the desired outcome. Just so it is known to not be limited, we have noticed this in more than one country, including some events in Ireland... We have also noticed it with some sessions, and other traditions besides Irish, including Scottish and English, and elsewhere...
Why? I can't believe we're alone in noticing this - and wondering about cause and effect and if a cure is needed or known?
Our sesh varies widely from week to week. Us players are mostly mid 40s to mid 50s, but we have a 60 year old and a 26 year old too. If you include the people who dance with our music, this expands the age range considerably, from 7 years old to 80.
Nearly everyone is an employee of state government, but hey, we live in the state capital.
I suspect we'd be more diverse if we weren't so removed from the tradition.
Our public sessions are inclusive (as long as everyone there is on the same trad page as we are on) and we are a community that spans pre-teens all the way up to octogenarians. Since I do not live an an area blessed with an abundance of players, I actively recruit talented folks from other traditions and attempt to lure them to our camp. We also seek out young people through our Irish Cultural center and get them started with whistle, fiddle and flute lessons. I know that the only way a fringe cult like mine will succeed for future generations is to continually spread the message - sort of a trad evangelist if you will.
Last week my 7 year old asked me to teach him "Lilting Banshee" on his fiddle. I can't even describe how big my grin was knowing I'll be having tunes with my kid. I'm doing my part to keep the tradition alive out in the wilds across the pond.
Well, if you are at all worried about an aparent lack of young'uns coming in to replace older folks bowing out, then I suggest you take a trip to next year's Fleadh, or one of the Summer Schools hare in Ireland (I'm thinking specifically of Drumshanbo or Tobercurry) - you'll find that there is an enormous amount of young hotshots on their way...some really amazing talent.
As one example: on the Monday at this years fleadh, there was a session of all 18-20ish players and it was honestly the best session I've ever seen/heard. I'm sure other members saw it, it was in the 'library' (residents bar) of the Bridge Hotel in the afternoon. Absolutely amazing so it was.
Then, back in July I was in Drumshanbo, and the amount of kids playing there was amazing...it appears now to be such a cool thing now to play ITM. Honestly, you will get a great feeling that the tradition is very, very much alive and kicking. There seems to be no shortage of up-and-coming young folk on their way...
Just for the questions above: our session is made up of 20 to 65-yr-olds, and they are Farmers, a Law Student, an IT professional, Oil Company worker....quite a mix really....
We always have people up for a song or two - not just tunes all night (I'd prefer tunes all night, but ye have to think of the punters)
Reply:
In your circle or circles, with regards to tradition, does your group represent a community or a clique?
~~~I attend about 3 session in my local area... One mostly scottish, one mostly irish, and another where it seems you can play any style of tune and you can get away with it.
Is your age group mostly limited to a decade or two? Or, does it have a wide selection of ages and types?
~~~We have a wide selection of age groups at every ession... altho there are a lot less younger people playing irish tunes in my area. Quite a few younger scottish players tho.
Are you primarily 'professionals', degreed, teachers, computer geeks ~ ?
Or, are you All-Sorts?
~~~All sorts
Is your participation limited ~ just music, just dance, just audience?
Or do you enjoy and participate in more than one aspect of tradition?
~~~I enjoy more than one aspect of tradition.
Do you consider yourself a 'musician'? ~ a 'dancer'? How important is that distinction?
~~~I consider myself both.
Do you musicians have dancers to answer your music? - or are you better off without that distraction?
~~~I enjoy playing for dancers altho i'm about the only dancer that plays trad music in my city.
Do you dancers have live music to lift your dance? - or is it just easier, more reliable and less troublesome to use recordings?
~~~I enjoy dancing for musicians!!
Do you think exclusion has a purpose, serves a positive end, or not?
~~~Exclusion is great if there is a particular style or feel you are looking for in the music.
Do you think inclusion has a purpose, serves a positive end, or not?
~~~I love inclusion as it teaches less experienced players how to play in a session situation.
Our music session has a wide age span. Professionals (software engineers, medical professionals, technical writer, lawyer, teachers) are a bit over-represented, but we have students and a retired fireman too. We always welcome folks who want to join in, and this has not been a problem because the character of the session- very traditional with a high musical standard- is very strong.
At the ceilis, the set dancing population is aging and shrinking. Very few musicians dance, and fewer still of the dancers sit and play music. Unless a significant number of young people come in soon, we may lose set dancing entirely. But I think they prefer salsa and swing.
Personally, I regard myself as a musician who loves to dance.
From one of the fastest growing states in the US for most of my short life, I'm not sure I sometimes even know what to think. I've never been to ceili, only once been to a session and guess I sometimes exclude myself in order to maintain some sense of continuity.
I heard a while back that Scotland was looking at financial incentives to encourage new and younger settlers. I have a cousin that was invited to Ireland several times for dance competition over the last 10yrs and her father spoke of changes, growth and more immigrants each time they had been over. Russia went so far as to have a publicized fertility competition for young couples not too long ago.
To reach even farther back, I once saw a television documentary of only the second time a westerner had visited an obscure island in the far Pacific. Through a translator (and subtitled) the explorer spoke with the chief of that island. Amongst speaking of other things, they spoke of changes like these that you have mentioned. The chief simply replied that it's the same here.
I love all this good news, definitely raises smiles... I haven't heard anything yet that doesn't sound welcoming...
There is a difference to note between the macro and the micro. The macro, those great hoolies that happen annually, or less regularly, are easy places to get a rosey view of things. As you might imagine, say Hobart, Tasmania holds a festival an annual folk fest. To stumble in there and see what might be hundreds wouldn't necessarily give you a clear view of what happens when everybody returns home, for the rest of their year. Are they the only musician in their village, or are there weekly or bi-weekly or monthly events, the micro? Does the support and energy of an annual festivity or summer school result in more activity and a growing and wider participation once everyone is back home?
My inclination and hopes would be for a yes, having some experience with such things...
Part of this question is seeking the 'ways and lengths' some of you might involve yourselves in with the purpose of defining your group and spreading its gospel, or, if desired, bringing in a wide or narrow variety of folks into the fold of you community / clique? ~ inclusively or exclusively? And how varied or limited is the content ~ dance, music song, recitation, chat, humour? As usual, though maybe not clear, I'm seeking more of your experiences and wisdom with regards to ways to nurture and promote community traditions...
I do troll the archives too, which is rich with gems of wisdom and chuckles...
Even the most welcoming community will be seen as an exclusive clique by some people. That says more about them than it does your community's openness.
Our session is definitely an open community and very much reflects the diversity and dynamics of the larger community around it. We go "out of our way" (tho it never feels like it) to welcome people--get to know potential players and punters alike on a first name basis, take time to chat and visit, encourage the drop-in to sing a song, tell a story, recite a poem, tell a joke, etc. Some people spontaneously get up and dance.
For nearly 10 years we used an email listserv to let people know whether the session was on and where and when it would occur. Always included info about any other Irish music related events, and aimed for a happy, welcoming, fun tone. That really helped bring people to the pub and created a sense of community that persists today despite no longer doing the listserv.
So far as I can tell, we don't represent a community and/or a clique. Many of us (such as myself) participate in other local jam sessions and/or play music at other places.
Most of us are in our thirties, forties, and fifties but occasionally we are joined by younger musicians.
None of us are professional musicians--we all have dayjobs. I work as a medical clerk at a hospital; two of our fiddlers work as music teachers; other members of the local session work various jobs such as nurse; computer programmer; public policy wonk; tax preparer; heating and air conditioning mechanic; high school history teacher; and a retired Air Force sergeant. Most of us don't work for the state government although we do live in the state capitol.
I just play music and am a piano player. I don't dance because I do not enjoy dancing. On rare occasions, when dancers do show up, I enjoy playing music for them.
Having been excluded from two or three bands, I consider exclusion to be bad and inclusion to be good.
I don't know anything about the local ceilis because I haven't been invited to play music for these events. I guess they don't think I am good enough to play for a ceili but I am good enough to play piano at the local sessions because I am always made to feel welcome at the local sessions.
There is a local Celtic Festival held once a year but I don't know much about it because I have attended it only once.
Re: E-i, e-i, ol - thought this was Joanie Madden's joke!
I can't tell it as well as she did on stage last year at Augusta, but here goes:
An Englishman, an American and an Irishman all got together for a contest to see who was the smartest man in the world. The question was: What did Old McDonald have, and how do you spell it?
Englishman: I say, that chap McDonald had an estate, E-S-T-A-T-E.
American: Sorry, Pardner, Old McDonald had a ranch, R-A-N-C-H.
Irishman: Sorry Lads, you both lose. Old McDonald had a FARM, E-I-E-I-O.
SO reported that all her nursery-class kids recognize MacDonalds as they go past on a coach for an outing, but they all sing the old song, not any of the commercials.
I always get dragooned into playing an instrument or three for So's class at least once a year, and have several calls and whistles to liven up Old Mac', an owl, a goose call ( definitely NOT a duck ), a train whistle.........
PS; I too have been excluded from a band. It's not nice but some people aren't worth the time of day to be dealing with, better not bother one's head about it.
There's more important things in life to think about.
Guernsey Pete, since the people who excluded me from their bands still participate regularly in the local sessions, should I then stop participating in the local sessions so I can refuse to make music with them?
Or, maybe I should show up at the local sessions and just listen to them play music since they don't seem to think I am a good enough musician to be invited to perform with them in a band? I am not actually going to show up and just listen but I am tempted to do this.
These same musicians frequently tell me that they need me at the sessions to fill out the sound and contribute to the general cacophony.
I am a good enough musician and have enough other opportunities to play music so I don't need to participate in the local Irish sessions in order to get the need to play music out of my system.
My wife wants to teach pre-school (or nursery school) age children and is going to college to earn a teaching degree specifically for that purpose.
Maybe your Significant Other could teach the following lyrics about McDonald's to the children:
McDonald's is your kind of place,
Hamburgers in your face,
French fries between your toes,
Cucumbers up your nose.
And the last time that I was there,
They stole my underwear.
Mcdonald's is your kind of place.
Or, instead of the line about the last time you were there, you can sing:
You know they have those chocolate shakes,
They're made from polluted lakes.
McDonald's is your kind of place.
I learned this version of the McDonald's song many, many years ago when I was a child growing up in Chicago.
E-i, e-i, ol
E-i, e-i, ol
Exclude / Excluding / Exclusive / Exclusion? (segregation)
Include / Including / Inclusive / Inclusion? (integration)
Occupancy Limits?
In your circle or circles, with regards to tradition,
does your group represent a community or a clique?
Is your age group mostly limited to a decade or two?
Or, does it have a wide selection of ages and types?
Are you primarily 'professionals', degreed, teachers, computer geeks ~ ?
Or, are you All-Sorts?
Is your participation limited ~ just music, just dance, just audience?
Or do you enjoy and participate in more than one aspect of tradition?
Do you consider yourself a 'musician'? ~ a 'dancer'? How important is that distinction?
Do you musicians have dancers to answer your music? - or are you better off without that distraction?
Do you dancers have live music to lift your dance? - or is it just easier, more reliable and less troublesome to use recordings?
Do you think exclusion has a purpose, serves a positive end, or not?
Do you think inclusion has a purpose, serves a positive end, or not?
Sorry, hardly new, but I've been noticing that in some realms and influences MacDonald's farm has been tending to specialize, a very short song, even though the wisdom is not to invest everything in one thing, but to diversify. So, the focus is there, about inclusion and exclusion, and wondering what people think is the best balance, if balance is what is desired? Whatever your preference, what is it you do that you think contributes to your goals best? What would you recommend to others to get a wider representation of ages at your events, and types ~ if it is desired? ~ And if not, what do you do and recommend for accomplishing a more select assemblage?
Why? We've taken part in some set dance workshops and noticed that too often, in our sense of things, the age groups have been mostly within 2 decades, with rare exception, and that they are just getting older and less in numbers. On the top end they are tending to burn out or get injuries that eventually mean they leave the scene. While, on the other side of it, in these instances, there isn't a balance, in that for every oldie that the press for speed and volume eventually does in, there doesn't seem to be an equal and opposite thing happening with younger folk coming along to replace them, not meaning that is the desired outcome. Just so it is known to not be limited, we have noticed this in more than one country, including some events in Ireland... We have also noticed it with some sessions, and other traditions besides Irish, including Scottish and English, and elsewhere...
Why? I can't believe we're alone in noticing this - and wondering about cause and effect and if a cure is needed or known?
# Posted on September 8th 2008 by ceolachan
Re: E-i, e-i, ol
Our sesh varies widely from week to week. Us players are mostly mid 40s to mid 50s, but we have a 60 year old and a 26 year old too. If you include the people who dance with our music, this expands the age range considerably, from 7 years old to 80.
Nearly everyone is an employee of state government, but hey, we live in the state capital.
I suspect we'd be more diverse if we weren't so removed from the tradition.
# Posted on September 8th 2008 by Will CPT
Re: E-i, e-i, ol
Our public sessions are inclusive (as long as everyone there is on the same trad page as we are on) and we are a community that spans pre-teens all the way up to octogenarians. Since I do not live an an area blessed with an abundance of players, I actively recruit talented folks from other traditions and attempt to lure them to our camp. We also seek out young people through our Irish Cultural center and get them started with whistle, fiddle and flute lessons. I know that the only way a fringe cult like mine will succeed for future generations is to continually spread the message - sort of a trad evangelist if you will.
Last week my 7 year old asked me to teach him "Lilting Banshee" on his fiddle. I can't even describe how big my grin was knowing I'll be having tunes with my kid. I'm doing my part to keep the tradition alive out in the wilds across the pond.
# Posted on September 8th 2008 by Jusa Nutter Eejit
Re: E-i, e-i, ol
Well, if you are at all worried about an aparent lack of young'uns coming in to replace older folks bowing out, then I suggest you take a trip to next year's Fleadh, or one of the Summer Schools hare in Ireland (I'm thinking specifically of Drumshanbo or Tobercurry) - you'll find that there is an enormous amount of young hotshots on their way...some really amazing talent.
As one example: on the Monday at this years fleadh, there was a session of all 18-20ish players and it was honestly the best session I've ever seen/heard. I'm sure other members saw it, it was in the 'library' (residents bar) of the Bridge Hotel in the afternoon. Absolutely amazing so it was.
Then, back in July I was in Drumshanbo, and the amount of kids playing there was amazing...it appears now to be such a cool thing now to play ITM. Honestly, you will get a great feeling that the tradition is very, very much alive and kicking. There seems to be no shortage of up-and-coming young folk on their way...
Just for the questions above: our session is made up of 20 to 65-yr-olds, and they are Farmers, a Law Student, an IT professional, Oil Company worker....quite a mix really....
We always have people up for a song or two - not just tunes all night (I'd prefer tunes all night, but ye have to think of the punters)
# Posted on September 9th 2008 by andy69
Re: E-i, e-i, ol
Reply:
In your circle or circles, with regards to tradition, does your group represent a community or a clique?
~~~I attend about 3 session in my local area... One mostly scottish, one mostly irish, and another where it seems you can play any style of tune and you can get away with it.
Is your age group mostly limited to a decade or two? Or, does it have a wide selection of ages and types?
~~~We have a wide selection of age groups at every ession... altho there are a lot less younger people playing irish tunes in my area. Quite a few younger scottish players tho.
Are you primarily 'professionals', degreed, teachers, computer geeks ~ ?
Or, are you All-Sorts?
~~~All sorts
Is your participation limited ~ just music, just dance, just audience?
Or do you enjoy and participate in more than one aspect of tradition?
~~~I enjoy more than one aspect of tradition.
Do you consider yourself a 'musician'? ~ a 'dancer'? How important is that distinction?
~~~I consider myself both.
Do you musicians have dancers to answer your music? - or are you better off without that distraction?
~~~I enjoy playing for dancers altho i'm about the only dancer that plays trad music in my city.
Do you dancers have live music to lift your dance? - or is it just easier, more reliable and less troublesome to use recordings?
~~~I enjoy dancing for musicians!!
Do you think exclusion has a purpose, serves a positive end, or not?
~~~Exclusion is great if there is a particular style or feel you are looking for in the music.
Do you think inclusion has a purpose, serves a positive end, or not?
~~~I love inclusion as it teaches less experienced players how to play in a session situation.
~Young McDonald
# Posted on September 9th 2008 by davydd
Re: E-i, e-i, ol
Our music session has a wide age span. Professionals (software engineers, medical professionals, technical writer, lawyer, teachers) are a bit over-represented, but we have students and a retired fireman too. We always welcome folks who want to join in, and this has not been a problem because the character of the session- very traditional with a high musical standard- is very strong.
At the ceilis, the set dancing population is aging and shrinking. Very few musicians dance, and fewer still of the dancers sit and play music. Unless a significant number of young people come in soon, we may lose set dancing entirely. But I think they prefer salsa and swing.
Personally, I regard myself as a musician who loves to dance.
# Posted on September 9th 2008 by fiddlercjp
Re: E-i, e-i, ol
From one of the fastest growing states in the US for most of my short life, I'm not sure I sometimes even know what to think. I've never been to ceili, only once been to a session and guess I sometimes exclude myself in order to maintain some sense of continuity.
I heard a while back that Scotland was looking at financial incentives to encourage new and younger settlers. I have a cousin that was invited to Ireland several times for dance competition over the last 10yrs and her father spoke of changes, growth and more immigrants each time they had been over. Russia went so far as to have a publicized fertility competition for young couples not too long ago.
To reach even farther back, I once saw a television documentary of only the second time a westerner had visited an obscure island in the far Pacific. Through a translator (and subtitled) the explorer spoke with the chief of that island. Amongst speaking of other things, they spoke of changes like these that you have mentioned. The chief simply replied that it's the same here.
# Posted on September 9th 2008 by mrkelahan
Re: E-i, e-i, ol
I love all this good news, definitely raises smiles... I haven't heard anything yet that doesn't sound welcoming...
There is a difference to note between the macro and the micro. The macro, those great hoolies that happen annually, or less regularly, are easy places to get a rosey view of things. As you might imagine, say Hobart, Tasmania holds a festival an annual folk fest. To stumble in there and see what might be hundreds wouldn't necessarily give you a clear view of what happens when everybody returns home, for the rest of their year. Are they the only musician in their village, or are there weekly or bi-weekly or monthly events, the micro? Does the support and energy of an annual festivity or summer school result in more activity and a growing and wider participation once everyone is back home?
My inclination and hopes would be for a yes, having some experience with such things...
Part of this question is seeking the 'ways and lengths' some of you might involve yourselves in with the purpose of defining your group and spreading its gospel, or, if desired, bringing in a wide or narrow variety of folks into the fold of you community / clique? ~ inclusively or exclusively? And how varied or limited is the content ~ dance, music song, recitation, chat, humour? As usual, though maybe not clear, I'm seeking more of your experiences and wisdom with regards to ways to nurture and promote community traditions...
I do troll the archives too, which is rich with gems of wisdom and chuckles...
# Posted on September 9th 2008 by ceolachan
Re: E-i, e-i, ol
Something to bear in mind:
Even the most welcoming community will be seen as an exclusive clique by some people. That says more about them than it does your community's openness.
Our session is definitely an open community and very much reflects the diversity and dynamics of the larger community around it. We go "out of our way" (tho it never feels like it) to welcome people--get to know potential players and punters alike on a first name basis, take time to chat and visit, encourage the drop-in to sing a song, tell a story, recite a poem, tell a joke, etc. Some people spontaneously get up and dance.
For nearly 10 years we used an email listserv to let people know whether the session was on and where and when it would occur. Always included info about any other Irish music related events, and aimed for a happy, welcoming, fun tone. That really helped bring people to the pub and created a sense of community that persists today despite no longer doing the listserv.
# Posted on September 9th 2008 by Will CPT
Re: E-i, e-i, ol
Here in central Arkansas, we try to be inclusive.
So far as I can tell, we don't represent a community and/or a clique. Many of us (such as myself) participate in other local jam sessions and/or play music at other places.
Most of us are in our thirties, forties, and fifties but occasionally we are joined by younger musicians.
None of us are professional musicians--we all have dayjobs. I work as a medical clerk at a hospital; two of our fiddlers work as music teachers; other members of the local session work various jobs such as nurse; computer programmer; public policy wonk; tax preparer; heating and air conditioning mechanic; high school history teacher; and a retired Air Force sergeant. Most of us don't work for the state government although we do live in the state capitol.
I just play music and am a piano player. I don't dance because I do not enjoy dancing. On rare occasions, when dancers do show up, I enjoy playing music for them.
Having been excluded from two or three bands, I consider exclusion to be bad and inclusion to be good.
I don't know anything about the local ceilis because I haven't been invited to play music for these events. I guess they don't think I am good enough to play for a ceili but I am good enough to play piano at the local sessions because I am always made to feel welcome at the local sessions.
There is a local Celtic Festival held once a year but I don't know much about it because I have attended it only once.
# Posted on September 9th 2008 by fauxcelt
Re: E-i, e-i, ol - thought this was Joanie Madden's joke!
I can't tell it as well as she did on stage last year at Augusta, but here goes:
An Englishman, an American and an Irishman all got together for a contest to see who was the smartest man in the world. The question was: What did Old McDonald have, and how do you spell it?
Englishman: I say, that chap McDonald had an estate, E-S-T-A-T-E.
American: Sorry, Pardner, Old McDonald had a ranch, R-A-N-C-H.
Irishman: Sorry Lads, you both lose. Old McDonald had a FARM, E-I-E-I-O.
# Posted on September 9th 2008 by shaskeen
Re: E-i, e-i, ol
SO reported that all her nursery-class kids recognize MacDonalds as they go past on a coach for an outing, but they all sing the old song, not any of the commercials.
I always get dragooned into playing an instrument or three for So's class at least once a year, and have several calls and whistles to liven up Old Mac', an owl, a goose call ( definitely NOT a duck ), a train whistle.........
# Posted on September 12th 2008 by Guernsey Pete
Re: E-i, e-i, ol
PS; I too have been excluded from a band. It's not nice but some people aren't worth the time of day to be dealing with, better not bother one's head about it.
There's more important things in life to think about.
# Posted on September 12th 2008 by Guernsey Pete
Re: E-i, e-i, ol
shaskeen - if i'd been in that contest, I would have said F-A-S-T-F-O-O-D-C-H-A-I-N !
# Posted on September 12th 2008 by Mix O'Lydian
Re: E-i, e-i, ol
Guernsey Pete, since the people who excluded me from their bands still participate regularly in the local sessions, should I then stop participating in the local sessions so I can refuse to make music with them?
Or, maybe I should show up at the local sessions and just listen to them play music since they don't seem to think I am a good enough musician to be invited to perform with them in a band? I am not actually going to show up and just listen but I am tempted to do this.
These same musicians frequently tell me that they need me at the sessions to fill out the sound and contribute to the general cacophony.
I am a good enough musician and have enough other opportunities to play music so I don't need to participate in the local Irish sessions in order to get the need to play music out of my system.
My wife wants to teach pre-school (or nursery school) age children and is going to college to earn a teaching degree specifically for that purpose.
Maybe your Significant Other could teach the following lyrics about McDonald's to the children:
McDonald's is your kind of place,
Hamburgers in your face,
French fries between your toes,
Cucumbers up your nose.
And the last time that I was there,
They stole my underwear.
Mcdonald's is your kind of place.
Or, instead of the line about the last time you were there, you can sing:
You know they have those chocolate shakes,
They're made from polluted lakes.
McDonald's is your kind of place.
I learned this version of the McDonald's song many, many years ago when I was a child growing up in Chicago.
# Posted on September 12th 2008 by fauxcelt