Yes, but in the most cases there is no session afterward, so I'm thinking of quitting that bad habit Just kidding, I'll take my flute on the next concert, you never know when you'll get the chance to play with some of the greats...
Think of the converse. You turn up at the concert sans instrument, really enjoy it, and then discover afterwards that the band is doing an open session in a pub down the road ...
It's also difficult with a guitar or a 'zouk, especially as I always embellish mine to ensure that no-one picks up the wrong case by accident ( not that I let them far from my site ).
The Chieftains sometimes invite local players onstage for a final set, but this is arranged ahead to time. The man himself (Matt Molloy) has shown up at the local music pub for a pint, but never brought his flute. Great ambassadors!
I brought my flute to a concert the other night even though I was pretty sure that even if there was a session afterwards I wouldn't play. Maybe my flute will learn a thing or two by osmosis.
Tommy and Matt are always welcome to bring along their instruments when I'm in town. But I'm usually too tired. Over to you my good friend and fellow impressario, Bliss......
I could leave my fiddle in the car. I'm glad I didn't bother last night because I left long before the end. After two great acts they had a 'Have Fun Or We Will Kill You' sort of band to finish the night. There would not have been any room ro have a session with the others. I wonder if this has happened to some of you as well.
jtrout,
I have a lovely memory of myself and Paddy Maloney lilting a tune backstage before the concert started because neither of us was sure of how many parts the reel had! Three or four? Sorted...yeah! But no post concert session (boo hoo)...late night the night before, for them, oh well. Another time maybe.
HFOWWKY means: only a clapping, shouting audience is a good audience. 'We will turn up the PA volume an extra 50% so everybody knows exactly what we are here for. We only play songs that everybody has heard at least a million times.' Band used by pub landlords to keep any non-drinkers away.-
Who are the Wiggles?
Never happens in Ireland! post concert open session where anyone can join in - that will be the day. Its all about gigging these days - no mon, no music.
... same here mariaphilmurphy. Even amateur gigs. The musos just want to do the gigs and forget about the people and the music that the gig comes out of. I think it is a very sad reflection on society today. The joy of sitting down and enjoying a few tunes seems to be lost. Does there really have to be a goal for playing? A ego thingy. Why not just play the music for the music's sake ... because it is there itching to be played? Ho hum ... why bother.
"Or, like me, you go to see Tommy Peoples, only about 35 miles from home, unusually, you take your instrument, there IS a session afterwards ...
... and then you go home in a sulk, 'cos someone's said something relatively innocuous you didn't like at the time ...
Ah well, I had a nice chat with him before I left."
Ben - You were there in Newport last year? I must have seen you. I did have my instrument with me and joined in the session for a bit, but unfortunately was dragged away prematurely by my chauffeur, who had to be up early next morning to teach a class of kids.
Ben - You may have missed playing in the session, but you got to hear the master at close quarters. What a gig!
Ah, HFOWWKY - that's the type of performance style that features the lead musician yelling, at least once, "Are you having a good time?...I CAN'T HEAR YOU, I SAID, ARE YOU HAVING A GOOD TIME?", yes?
Here's a tip: I'd probably be having a better time if you'd stop haranguing me about how excited I look/sound, and start playing some ******* music.
What a gig indeed, granama. It was fantastic. also, yes, we must have seen each other - the room was so small, we were practically in each others' laps. Brilliant opportunity to hear - and see - the master at work.
I only bring an instrument when I know there will be something going on afterward, which isn't often around here.
But if I don't, there is nothing wrong with listening. World class players don't necessarily sound better with my rudimentary playing in the mix.
One needs to know their limitations.
After a Lunasa gig in Boulder several of the guys from the band went to the local session for a few tunes. I was living in England at the time so I missed it and heard second-hand, but good on them!
i never bring an instrument to a concert expectin a session afterward. if i go to a concert and pay money, i go to listen and relax, never on the assumption there'll be tunes afterwards like. i dont pay money to play with frankie gavin if i go to ne of his concerts, id rather hear him play on his own.if there is a session, which is highly unlikely depending on the whereabouts of the concert, sure i'l listen, i dont have to play all of the ttime!
i can understand what ur saying clear drops, but forgive me if wat i think ur saying seems a bit naive! i dont think you shud judge musicians by if they play in a session with people straight after doing a concert. if they dont it is definately not out of arrogance or forgetting about the people and the music. if that was the case they wouldn't do the concert at all. i know, especially from my own experience, that after playing at a concert, on your own for example, the last thing i would want to do straight afterward is have a free for all session or whatever. playing on stage can be stressful and its usually the option of relaxing afterwards that most musicians wud do. and these days concerts wud be the only time musicians might see each other and chat so i know i wud rather catch up with people i haven't seen in a while rather than be like 'right! lets go and play some tunes now before you go home. quick!'. lol. It depends on the person but I know that’s how I would feel. I think it’s a bit disrespectful to accuse them of forgetting about the music. a lot of musicians do have normal day jobs and can be tired like normal people after a days work so sometimes it has to be worthwhile making a trip to play, that is where money comes into the equation. it not that they just forget about the music, god no.i think the real sad thing is not what you said about music just being about gigging, which it certainly isn't, i think the sad thing is the mindset that people wud rather play with someone than actually listen to them at a concert. it can be the same with sessions, like for example i saw a session in miltown last year in friels and it was just alec finn and dereck hickey together. it was fantastic so no-one wanted to join in, just listen, and the bar was filled with greta musicians like harry bradley, john carty, etc. but some bodhran player and fiddle player joined in and ruined it. so sometimes you just have to accept listening but i think that is a discussion for another thread.
A few years ago, there was a jam session after a concert by some visiting musicians. The visitors almost left the session because some of the local musicians didn't bother to tune their instruments before the session started.
Bringing instruments to a trad concert
Bringing instruments to a trad concert
Do you take your instrument of choice to a concert in the assumption (or hope) that there'll be a session to be found afterward?
# Posted on September 6th 2008 by Kerry NW
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Yes
# Posted on September 6th 2008 by lazyhound
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Yes, but in the most cases there is no session afterward, so I'm thinking of quitting that bad habit
Just kidding, I'll take my flute on the next concert, you never know when you'll get the chance to play with some of the greats...
# Posted on September 6th 2008 by Bile
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yep! Better to be looking AT it, than looking FOR it
# Posted on September 6th 2008 by andy69
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Think of the converse. You turn up at the concert sans instrument, really enjoy it, and then discover afterwards that the band is doing an open session in a pub down the road ...
# Posted on September 6th 2008 by lazyhound
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Or, like me, you go to see Tommy Peoples, only about 35 miles from home, unusually, you take your instrument, there IS a session afterwards ...
... and then you go home in a sulk, 'cos someone's said something relatively innocuous you didn't like at the time ...
Ah well, I had a nice chat with him before I left.
# Posted on September 6th 2008 by benhall.1
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You can always wear trousers with a belt, and stick a D whistle in it, just in case there's a session.
# Posted on September 6th 2008 by nicholas
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It's difficult with a harp.
# Posted on September 6th 2008 by jigtime
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Piece of cake with 10-hole harmonicas. I never go anywhere without a G harp and a low D harp about my person. Both in Paddy Richter tuning, of course.
# Posted on September 6th 2008 by Steve Shaw
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It's also difficult with a guitar or a 'zouk, especially as I always embellish mine to ensure that no-one picks up the wrong case by accident ( not that I let them far from my site ).
# Posted on September 6th 2008 by Guernsey Pete
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...or far from my sight......
# Posted on September 6th 2008 by Guernsey Pete
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Liz Carroll invites people up that she knows to play at the end of her concerts. Kinda cool
# Posted on September 6th 2008 by I_Fel
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I never go anywhere with an instrument... PARTICULARLY where there is trad.
# Posted on September 6th 2008 by camwebby
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The Chieftains sometimes invite local players onstage for a final set, but this is arranged ahead to time. The man himself (Matt Molloy) has shown up at the local music pub for a pint, but never brought his flute. Great ambassadors!
# Posted on September 7th 2008 by jtrout
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I brought my flute to a concert the other night even though I was pretty sure that even if there was a session afterwards I wouldn't play. Maybe my flute will learn a thing or two by osmosis.
# Posted on September 7th 2008 by sbhikes
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Tommy and Matt are always welcome to bring along their instruments when I'm in town. But I'm usually too tired. Over to you my good friend and fellow impressario, Bliss......
# Posted on September 7th 2008 by Alf Tupper
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Visiting internaional trad musicians NEVER gig here ...
# Posted on September 7th 2008 by Clear Drops
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I could leave my fiddle in the car. I'm glad I didn't bother last night because I left long before the end. After two great acts they had a 'Have Fun Or We Will Kill You' sort of band to finish the night. There would not have been any room ro have a session with the others. I wonder if this has happened to some of you as well.
# Posted on September 7th 2008 by kuec
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jtrout,
I have a lovely memory of myself and Paddy Maloney lilting a tune backstage before the concert started because neither of us was sure of how many parts the reel had! Three or four? Sorted...yeah! But no post concert session (boo hoo)...late night the night before, for them, oh well. Another time maybe.
# Posted on September 7th 2008 by john knoss
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'Have Fun Or We Will Kill You' ???
Wowee--- I do not follow that reference, but it sounds just grand.
Could you please expand on that?
Just curious,
rook
# Posted on September 7th 2008 by Rook
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sounds like The Wiggles
# Posted on September 7th 2008 by Bren
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HFOWWKY means: only a clapping, shouting audience is a good audience. 'We will turn up the PA volume an extra 50% so everybody knows exactly what we are here for. We only play songs that everybody has heard at least a million times.' Band used by pub landlords to keep any non-drinkers away.-
Who are the Wiggles?
# Posted on September 7th 2008 by kuec
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Never happens in Ireland! post concert open session where anyone can join in - that will be the day. Its all about gigging these days - no mon, no music.
# Posted on September 7th 2008 by mariaphilmurphy
Re: Bringing instruments to a trad concert
... same here mariaphilmurphy. Even amateur gigs. The musos just want to do the gigs and forget about the people and the music that the gig comes out of. I think it is a very sad reflection on society today. The joy of sitting down and enjoying a few tunes seems to be lost. Does there really have to be a goal for playing? A ego thingy. Why not just play the music for the music's sake ... because it is there itching to be played? Ho hum ... why bother.
# Posted on September 7th 2008 by Clear Drops
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... just a small voice in the wilderness.
# Posted on September 7th 2008 by Clear Drops
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"Or, like me, you go to see Tommy Peoples, only about 35 miles from home, unusually, you take your instrument, there IS a session afterwards ...
... and then you go home in a sulk, 'cos someone's said something relatively innocuous you didn't like at the time ...
Ah well, I had a nice chat with him before I left."
Ben - You were there in Newport last year? I must have seen you. I did have my instrument with me and joined in the session for a bit, but unfortunately was dragged away prematurely by my chauffeur, who had to be up early next morning to teach a class of kids.
Ben - You may have missed playing in the session, but you got to hear the master at close quarters. What a gig!
# Posted on September 7th 2008 by ragaman
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I should have brought my fiddle when I saw Leahy last summer - maybe I could have jammed with them, like this audience member: http://vluu.org/leahy-2007/dsc_1459-srgb.jpg
# Posted on September 7th 2008 by Tall, Dark, and Mysterious
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Ah, HFOWWKY - that's the type of performance style that features the lead musician yelling, at least once, "Are you having a good time?...I CAN'T HEAR YOU, I SAID, ARE YOU HAVING A GOOD TIME?", yes?
Here's a tip: I'd probably be having a better time if you'd stop haranguing me about how excited I look/sound, and start playing some ******* music.
# Posted on September 8th 2008 by Tall, Dark, and Mysterious
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What a gig indeed, granama. It was fantastic. also, yes, we must have seen each other - the room was so small, we were practically in each others' laps. Brilliant opportunity to hear - and see - the master at work.
Hmmm ... wonder who you are ...
# Posted on September 8th 2008 by benhall.1
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I only bring an instrument when I know there will be something going on afterward, which isn't often around here.
But if I don't, there is nothing wrong with listening. World class players don't necessarily sound better with my rudimentary playing in the mix.
One needs to know their limitations.
# Posted on September 8th 2008 by AlBrown
Re: Bringing instruments to a trad concert
After a Lunasa gig in Boulder several of the guys from the band went to the local session for a few tunes. I was living in England at the time so I missed it and heard second-hand, but good on them!
# Posted on September 8th 2008 by TheSilverSpear
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i never bring an instrument to a concert expectin a session afterward. if i go to a concert and pay money, i go to listen and relax, never on the assumption there'll be tunes afterwards like. i dont pay money to play with frankie gavin if i go to ne of his concerts, id rather hear him play on his own.if there is a session, which is highly unlikely depending on the whereabouts of the concert, sure i'l listen, i dont have to play all of the ttime!
i can understand what ur saying clear drops, but forgive me if wat i think ur saying seems a bit naive! i dont think you shud judge musicians by if they play in a session with people straight after doing a concert. if they dont it is definately not out of arrogance or forgetting about the people and the music. if that was the case they wouldn't do the concert at all. i know, especially from my own experience, that after playing at a concert, on your own for example, the last thing i would want to do straight afterward is have a free for all session or whatever. playing on stage can be stressful and its usually the option of relaxing afterwards that most musicians wud do. and these days concerts wud be the only time musicians might see each other and chat so i know i wud rather catch up with people i haven't seen in a while rather than be like 'right! lets go and play some tunes now before you go home. quick!'. lol. It depends on the person but I know that’s how I would feel. I think it’s a bit disrespectful to accuse them of forgetting about the music. a lot of musicians do have normal day jobs and can be tired like normal people after a days work so sometimes it has to be worthwhile making a trip to play, that is where money comes into the equation. it not that they just forget about the music, god no.i think the real sad thing is not what you said about music just being about gigging, which it certainly isn't, i think the sad thing is the mindset that people wud rather play with someone than actually listen to them at a concert. it can be the same with sessions, like for example i saw a session in miltown last year in friels and it was just alec finn and dereck hickey together. it was fantastic so no-one wanted to join in, just listen, and the bar was filled with greta musicians like harry bradley, john carty, etc. but some bodhran player and fiddle player joined in and ruined it. so sometimes you just have to accept listening but i think that is a discussion for another thread.
# Posted on September 8th 2008 by tradmoosic
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A few years ago, there was a jam session after a concert by some visiting musicians. The visitors almost left the session because some of the local musicians didn't bother to tune their instruments before the session started.
# Posted on September 8th 2008 by fauxcelt