Some say that, for Irish-style fiddling, slurs are what it's all about--"slur into the downbeat" etc.
But most good fiddlers vary their bowing, so the slurs don't always occur in the same places. That's why they tend not to be included in little thumbnail-sketch transcriptions like you see on this site.
The poor lad is reading music. In classical violin music they notate every slur. In Traditional fiddling, they never notate a slur, you're supposed to make your own. The tune will tell you how it wants to be bowed.
Give the poor kid a break !
He's playing Irish music on the saxophone from written notation, he's got enough problems already, you'll be confusing him, telling him to tie his shoelaces with a violin bow at the same time. It takes years to get that good, even llig knows that.
I thought that young girl who did 'Handlebars' was absolutely fantastic! I even tried to sign up to YouTube just to be able to leave that as a comment. Sadly, Youtube doesn't like any username I can think of, and, in any case, I can't read the verification words, so it won't let me become a member. I tried 5 times to sign up. Any site that makes me feel that stupid before I've even signed up to it isn't worth it, IMO. Shame - the kid's great.
I think bow or neck is a good classification
of slurs, wyogal. The "string" does not cover the
slurs that go across strings. That's a bowed slur.
The neck slurs are on one string.
When I first started, my teacher said I should try
to tie together notes on different strings with one
bow stroke. I asked "why would I want to do that?"
That advice turned out to be a way to approach
lots of tunes flute players excel at but we fiddle
players find unpleasant string crossings / note
combinations; but there are enough regular
fiddle tune that have the same playing challenges.
Thanks, dogmageek. I had no idea what that "bow or neck" business was all about, but was reluctant to ask. You know how some people respond to a sincere but naive question, around here....
slurring
slurring
Does anybody Know why there s no slurrs in irish music
# Posted on September 1st 2008 by Odog87
Re: slurring
There aren't?
# Posted on September 1st 2008 by Whiddler
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Every song I'v e played had only ties
# Posted on September 1st 2008 by Odog87
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.......
# Posted on September 1st 2008 by JosephofCK
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there are plenty slurs, they're just not written. You should be able to hear anyone decent playing them
# Posted on September 1st 2008 by Bogman
Re: slurring
bow or neck?
# Posted on September 1st 2008 by wyogal
Re: slurring
Some say that, for Irish-style fiddling, slurs are what it's all about--"slur into the downbeat" etc.
But most good fiddlers vary their bowing, so the slurs don't always occur in the same places. That's why they tend not to be included in little thumbnail-sketch transcriptions like you see on this site.
# Posted on September 1st 2008 by mickray
Re: slurring
flippin heck
# Posted on September 1st 2008 by llig leahcim
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I can play a whole jig of slurs.
# Posted on September 1st 2008 by Free Reed
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yes Michael - well said.
# Posted on September 1st 2008 by bb
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bow and neck.
# Posted on September 1st 2008 by dogmageek
Re: slurring
"string" might be even more appropriate...
# Posted on September 2nd 2008 by wyogal
Re: slurring
"Kids say the darndest things."
# Posted on September 2nd 2008 by mickray
Re: slurring
Kids are great...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbuTlIo1Zr4&feature=related
Here's the original. Cool video, IMO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMEhescEBaE
# Posted on September 2nd 2008 by wolfbird
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I thought in Irish music they called slurs "slagging."
# Posted on September 2nd 2008 by AlBrown
Re: slurring
You might be using the word "slur" differently than most people here do. What do you mean by "ties"?
# Posted on September 2nd 2008 by hotsauce
Re: slurring
have you tried playing the music with all single bows?.
# Posted on September 2nd 2008 by Rufus Jameson
Re: slurring
The poor lad is reading music. In classical violin music they notate every slur. In Traditional fiddling, they never notate a slur, you're supposed to make your own. The tune will tell you how it wants to be bowed.
# Posted on September 2nd 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: slurring
Of course, when the fiddler has had too many pints, everything is a slur, a blur, or both.
# Posted on September 2nd 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: slurring
Give the poor kid a break !
He's playing Irish music on the saxophone from written notation, he's got enough problems already, you'll be confusing him, telling him to tie his shoelaces with a violin bow at the same time. It takes years to get that good, even llig knows that.
# Posted on September 2nd 2008 by wolfbird
Re: slurring
I thought that young girl who did 'Handlebars' was absolutely fantastic! I even tried to sign up to YouTube just to be able to leave that as a comment. Sadly, Youtube doesn't like any username I can think of, and, in any case, I can't read the verification words, so it won't let me become a member. I tried 5 times to sign up. Any site that makes me feel that stupid before I've even signed up to it isn't worth it, IMO. Shame - the kid's great.
# Posted on September 2nd 2008 by benhall.1
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And you're right, wolfbird. That video really is cool.
# Posted on September 3rd 2008 by benhall.1
Re: slurring
I liked the line, "I can keep time without a metronome", reminded me of one or two minor disagreements amongst certain members of this esteemed forum
# Posted on September 3rd 2008 by wolfbird
Re: slurring
I think bow or neck is a good classification
of slurs, wyogal. The "string" does not cover the
slurs that go across strings. That's a bowed slur.
The neck slurs are on one string.
When I first started, my teacher said I should try
to tie together notes on different strings with one
bow stroke. I asked "why would I want to do that?"
That advice turned out to be a way to approach
lots of tunes flute players excel at but we fiddle
players find unpleasant string crossings / note
combinations; but there are enough regular
fiddle tune that have the same playing challenges.
# Posted on September 3rd 2008 by dogmageek
Re: slurring
Thanks, dogmageek. I had no idea what that "bow or neck" business was all about, but was reluctant to ask. You know how some people respond to a sincere but naive question, around here....
# Posted on September 3rd 2008 by mickray
Re: slurring
Yeah, gee, I saw 'slur' and thought 'bow'.
Insert 'you arrogant, fiddle-centric so-and-so' comment here.
# Posted on September 3rd 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: slurring
I thought it was bow too
# Posted on October 13th 2008 by Odog87