Hy folks, I'm looking for some opportunity to learn the irish guitar style in internet, do You know if there are some on line courses?
I' d be very please for any help.
What, I just got on and there he was, or rather, there was his post. I didn't even tell him that he was welcome to our little crew, which of course he is. Which, she said pointedly, I notice that you didn't, Mark.
Don't mind us, Tommaso, Mark and I are just starting our own little war. *grin*
Whoops [blush] sorry, I never realised he was new. Tommaso, welcome. I'm afraid that if you're looking for a webpage that tells you what chords to play and about rhythm techniques, you're going to be looking for a long time. I'm fairly sure that there isn't one. You'd have to look at Zina's links above, and Chris Smith's book on Celtic Backup (Mel Bay) springs to mind as a possibility also (although I have to admit that I haven't got round to buying that yet - maybe I'll get it for myself for Christmas).
To Tommaso, welcome.... Don't know what's up with our Mark these last coupla days - must be the mounting tension of his impending stateside trip.
To Dow, and sorry you should be. You're a disgrace to this website! (wow! did I sound assertive? - wish I could do that in real life!)
To PC Jeremy - arrest this man - or at least yellow-card him!
To Zina, don't listen to Dow - as I've said before, Tourette's syndrome is endemic in Geordieland, now he's generously sharing it with the Antipodes, and soon Montana.
To All (including Dow) - The uncharacteristic heat here in London is getting to us, and giving even we dour Scots a sense of sarcastic humour.
LOL -- I think Mark's temper is because he doesn't get to come to the States after all, which we're all very sorry about, although if he was planning on bringing his shaky eggs, it's probably just as well, after the tambourines and rocks, I don't think Will could take any more additions to his session...
Hi, I wouldn't recommend those John Doyle tutorials. He is a competent player, but he uses dropped D tuning which I think is not the most suitable tuning for ITM. Learning DADGAD (if you haven't allready) would be certainly worth it. Unfortunately I dont have any books to recommend, but listening carefully recordings including good guitar players eg. Arty McGlynn, Dáithí Sproule, Paul Brady and many others, is fairly slow but very enjoyable way to learn how they do it.
One usefull website is Han's DADGAD guitar page: http://home.hccnet.nl/h.speek/dadgad/
It's not actually a tutorial, but will help you getting started.
*grin* DADGAD? You mean, the way people play who don't want to learn actual chords? Heh. Just teasing. Still, a little ballsy to say that John doesn't uses a suitable tuning for Irish music, since he's played on a good 3/4 of the most recent CDs I've bought...perhaps a little better than competent, and an excellent singer as well. I know more and more guitarists who have installed a lever on their guitars to go in and out of dropped D at will.
Mr. Doyle is also a helluva fiddler and banjo player, and I've seen top tier lead players flock to him at sessions for the incredible sense of timing and personality he brings to the tunes. He knows the music better than most of us know the backs of our own eyelids. I'd say drop D hasn't hurt his playing any....
Zina, eggs do occasionally make an appearance at our local session, typically accompanied by tomatoes and wads of cabbage. Fortunately, most of the punters have weak arms and poor aim....
Sorry, I didn't mean to insult anyone. John Doyle is a GOOD player, no doubt about that. If you are very talented musician (like Mr. Doyle) and your fingers are 10 inch long, you can tune your guitar as you like eg. E,C#,D,Bb,G,F# or even DADGBE ;). My point is that with DADGAD-tuning you can do same things much easier. And yes, it's fine a fine solution for players like me, who don't know the actual chords.
Just a note to add: John Doyle is a seriously NICE man, as well, I've only talked with him via e-mail about a CD we were working on, but it convinced me of what everyone I know who has met him has said: he is a great person as well as a great musician.
Now, if you don't care for John Doyle's style of playing...that'd be another thing. Very definitely a driving sound, which some people don't care for. But you can always tell when it's John on the record, usually without looking at the sleeve notes. That man makes so many recordings backing so many people...
John even takes the piss out of himself sometimes about it, he's got a great sense of humor. On his website, he once held a contest: if anybody could find a track he couldn't place within a try of him backing, he'd give them a prize. I can't remember who won or with what, but people had a great time with it.
I was playing the fiddle with a group of 30 musicians a few years ago. All instruments were represented, including ONE guitarist. I could hear his wonderful playing over the flutes, boxes, banjos, fiddles and whistle players. It seemed that he played effortless, and yet I could hear his chords clear across the crowded room. I was blown away. I asked "Who is that awesome guitar player?" The reply was " Zan McLeod". He's from the Washington D.C. area. Type his name in the search engine and be amazed.
I don't think Zan has a guitar tutor out, does he, does anyone know? I know he has a bouzouki tutor out, because my husband got it -- good job of it, too. (Great to listen to him play with Billy McComiskey.) I listen to The Ring Session with McLeod and James Kelly quite a lot, although right now I have it out on loan to a friend and I desperately want it back!
Jani -A great deal of people play Dropped D when backing and John Doyle sits at the top of the tree and to call him competent is just plain silly.He also plays a variety of tunings including DADGAD in addition to great bouzouki playing and singing.
Zina -the "Spot John Doyle" contest that you refer to was won by your teachers husband Matt Heaton!
Tommaso -there is a DADGAD tutor by Sarah McQuaid available from Ossian Music and gives a good insight into this way of playing.There is also a Dropped D tutor by Gavin Ralston available from Walton's in Dublin
Alan
I have over 200 trad Irish tunes arranged in DGDGBD, DADGAD, DADGBE, DGDGBbD, and other tunings. Fingerstyle guitar arrangements. Free downloads of the TablEdit (software) [.TEF format files] & also MIDIs of the same tunes. Reels, Hornpipes, Jigs, Mazurkas, Sligjigs, slides (singlejigs), Turlough O'Carolan compositions + a few of my own compositions.
irish guitar in internet
irish guitar in internet
Hy folks, I'm looking for some opportunity to learn the irish guitar style in internet, do You know if there are some on line courses?
I' d be very please for any help.
# Posted on July 17th 2003 by Tommaso Tornielli
Re: irish guitar in internet
Well, John Doyle has a Mad for Trad CD tutorial, http://madfortrad.com/, as well as a video from Homespun at http://www.homespuntapes.com/artists/artistpage.asp?artID=416
Should get you started...have fun!
Zina
# Posted on July 17th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: irish guitar in internet
Zina the housedog beats everyone to it again. Look away when she starts the genital-sniffing and leg-shagging routine.
# Posted on July 17th 2003 by Dow
Re: irish guitar in internet
What, I just got on and there he was, or rather, there was his post. I didn't even tell him that he was welcome to our little crew, which of course he is. Which, she said pointedly, I notice that you didn't, Mark.
Don't mind us, Tommaso, Mark and I are just starting our own little war. *grin*
zls
# Posted on July 17th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: irish guitar in internet
Whoops [blush] sorry, I never realised he was new. Tommaso, welcome. I'm afraid that if you're looking for a webpage that tells you what chords to play and about rhythm techniques, you're going to be looking for a long time. I'm fairly sure that there isn't one. You'd have to look at Zina's links above, and Chris Smith's book on Celtic Backup (Mel Bay) springs to mind as a possibility also (although I have to admit that I haven't got round to buying that yet - maybe I'll get it for myself for Christmas).
# Posted on July 17th 2003 by Dow
Re: irish guitar in internet
To Tommaso, welcome.... Don't know what's up with our Mark these last coupla days - must be the mounting tension of his impending stateside trip.
To Dow, and sorry you should be. You're a disgrace to this website! (wow! did I sound assertive? - wish I could do that in real life!)
To PC Jeremy - arrest this man - or at least yellow-card him!
To Zina, don't listen to Dow - as I've said before, Tourette's syndrome is endemic in Geordieland, now he's generously sharing it with the Antipodes, and soon Montana.
To All (including Dow) - The uncharacteristic heat here in London is getting to us, and giving even we dour Scots a sense of sarcastic humour.
# Posted on July 17th 2003 by Nick Splease
Re: irish guitar in internet
LOL -- I think Mark's temper is because he doesn't get to come to the States after all, which we're all very sorry about, although if he was planning on bringing his shaky eggs, it's probably just as well, after the tambourines and rocks, I don't think Will could take any more additions to his session...
zls
# Posted on July 17th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: irish guitar in internet
OOps - my turn to apologise.. I'm outa here...Don't mind us, Tommaso......
# Posted on July 17th 2003 by Nick Splease
Re: Not being able to go to Montana
# Posted on July 17th 2003 by Dow
Re: irish guitar in internet
Hi, I wouldn't recommend those John Doyle tutorials. He is a competent player, but he uses dropped D tuning which I think is not the most suitable tuning for ITM. Learning DADGAD (if you haven't allready) would be certainly worth it. Unfortunately I dont have any books to recommend, but listening carefully recordings including good guitar players eg. Arty McGlynn, Dáithí Sproule, Paul Brady and many others, is fairly slow but very enjoyable way to learn how they do it.
One usefull website is Han's DADGAD guitar page:
http://home.hccnet.nl/h.speek/dadgad/
It's not actually a tutorial, but will help you getting started.
# Posted on July 17th 2003 by Jani
Re: irish guitar in internet
*grin* DADGAD? You mean, the way people play who don't want to learn actual chords? Heh. Just teasing. Still, a little ballsy to say that John doesn't uses a suitable tuning for Irish music, since he's played on a good 3/4 of the most recent CDs I've bought...perhaps a little better than competent, and an excellent singer as well. I know more and more guitarists who have installed a lever on their guitars to go in and out of dropped D at will.
# Posted on July 17th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: irish guitar in internet
Mr. Doyle is also a helluva fiddler and banjo player, and I've seen top tier lead players flock to him at sessions for the incredible sense of timing and personality he brings to the tunes. He knows the music better than most of us know the backs of our own eyelids. I'd say drop D hasn't hurt his playing any....
Zina, eggs do occasionally make an appearance at our local session, typically accompanied by tomatoes and wads of cabbage. Fortunately, most of the punters have weak arms and poor aim....
# Posted on July 17th 2003 by Miss Lonelyhearts
Re: irish guitar in internet
Sorry, I didn't mean to insult anyone. John Doyle is a GOOD player, no doubt about that. If you are very talented musician (like Mr. Doyle) and your fingers are 10 inch long, you can tune your guitar as you like eg. E,C#,D,Bb,G,F# or even DADGBE ;). My point is that with DADGAD-tuning you can do same things much easier. And yes, it's fine a fine solution for players like me, who don't know the actual chords.
# Posted on July 17th 2003 by Jani
Re: irish guitar in internet
sounds like one big happy family in here, the brady bunch have nothing on ya
# Posted on July 17th 2003 by Tinkster
Re: irish guitar in internet
Just a note to add: John Doyle is a seriously NICE man, as well, I've only talked with him via e-mail about a CD we were working on, but it convinced me of what everyone I know who has met him has said: he is a great person as well as a great musician.
"It's the stooory -- of a man named Murphy...."
# Posted on July 18th 2003 by Zina Lee
P.S. John Doyle
Now, if you don't care for John Doyle's style of playing...that'd be another thing. Very definitely a driving sound, which some people don't care for. But you can always tell when it's John on the record, usually without looking at the sleeve notes. That man makes so many recordings backing so many people...
John even takes the piss out of himself sometimes about it, he's got a great sense of humor. On his website, he once held a contest: if anybody could find a track he couldn't place within a try of him backing, he'd give them a prize. I can't remember who won or with what, but people had a great time with it.
# Posted on July 18th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: irish guitar in internet
Oh and Tinkster, bear in mind that *you're* in here too! *grin* "Oh, Marcia, Marcia, *Marcia*...."
# Posted on July 18th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: irish guitar in internet
I was playing the fiddle with a group of 30 musicians a few years ago. All instruments were represented, including ONE guitarist. I could hear his wonderful playing over the flutes, boxes, banjos, fiddles and whistle players. It seemed that he played effortless, and yet I could hear his chords clear across the crowded room. I was blown away. I asked "Who is that awesome guitar player?" The reply was " Zan McLeod". He's from the Washington D.C. area. Type his name in the search engine and be amazed.
He
# Posted on July 20th 2003 by shar
Re: irish guitar in internet
I don't think Zan has a guitar tutor out, does he, does anyone know? I know he has a bouzouki tutor out, because my husband got it -- good job of it, too. (Great to listen to him play with Billy McComiskey.) I listen to The Ring Session with McLeod and James Kelly quite a lot, although right now I have it out on loan to a friend and I desperately want it back!
# Posted on July 20th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: irish guitar in internet
Jani -A great deal of people play Dropped D when backing and John Doyle sits at the top of the tree and to call him competent is just plain silly.He also plays a variety of tunings including DADGAD in addition to great bouzouki playing and singing.
Zina -the "Spot John Doyle" contest that you refer to was won by your teachers husband Matt Heaton!
Tommaso -there is a DADGAD tutor by Sarah McQuaid available from Ossian Music and gives a good insight into this way of playing.There is also a Dropped D tutor by Gavin Ralston available from Walton's in Dublin
Alan
# Posted on July 26th 2003 by Alanmmcgregor
Re: irish guitar in internet
Yes, Matt won that contest while he worked in our office -- he was extremely pleased with himself. *grin*
# Posted on July 26th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: irish guitar in internet
I have over 200 trad Irish tunes arranged in DGDGBD, DADGAD, DADGBE, DGDGBbD, and other tunings. Fingerstyle guitar arrangements. Free downloads of the TablEdit (software) [.TEF format files] & also MIDIs of the same tunes. Reels, Hornpipes, Jigs, Mazurkas, Sligjigs, slides (singlejigs), Turlough O'Carolan compositions + a few of my own compositions.
http://www.davyrogers.com
Davy Rogers (webmaster)
# Posted on July 5th 2004 by *Davy Rogers