You may have see a Swedish gentleman on YouTube playing this tune on one of those mechanically amplified / horn fiddle dealies...
it starts off like this
I believe though that we have two tunes here, rather than one (the Swedish gent plays the first tune, then the second tune, then finishes with a short reprise on the first tune).
I think that I've heard both tunes before - can't remember where. They come across to me rather like Northumbrian rant tunes (hornpipe metre and structure, but played undotted). It may be of course that both tunes are Swedish, and perhaps specifically from the island of Gotland. If this is the case, you'll probably find them on this site ...
... which has masses of Gotland tunes in abc, gif and midi formats. The only difficulty is that everthing there is in Swedish, and there is no translation!
I wish you you well with your quest. If you succeed, please post the abc(s).
It's music for a 'quadrille', the same source for the dances in Ireland now tended to be called 'sets', which were originally 'sets of quadrilles', or 'sets' of figures that are taken as one, or a 'set' of figures such as the "Clare Plains Set" or "The Sliabh Luachra Set". In the countries of the North they were known and popular, including "The Lancers", or as one example in Finland, "The Lansii". Sometimes they survive as a single run of figures, sometimes they surivive in a set, with breaks between the parts and different music for each, as with the survivors and new-wave ones in Ireland. This one is ~the "Skräddarkadrilj" ~ 'kadril'... This would be for one figure, and sometimes tunes are strung together to fit the movements in the dance, which could support Mix's previous comment.
Sorry, while I've probably danced this, as it has a ring of familiarity, I don't know the music for it, but may still have it here somewhere.
Nice link Mix. Do you also play the Swedish bagpipe?
wow thanks alot everybody!
i didn't expect such luck with this one. Just goes to show when it comest to traditional music, (traditional northwestern European music...) it's a small world ;)
In character its definitions would rhythmically be 2/2 ~ two beats to a measure. But, Irish reels, also bearing that similarity, are also notated as 4/4, grouping the notes in a way that clearly shows the duple character of the measure ~ | eceg fdfg | agfe degf | ~ ...
I could see giving this one a little more swing, in a jaunty barndance sort of way...
The kind of steps you often find with these quadrilles aren't far removed from the usual for such an approach to rhythm, as with a hornpipe or barndance/schottische ~ hop-1-2-3... But simple running steps are also used... I wonder if I can get my hands on a dance description? I love these quadrilles, wherever they hail from...
Thanks for the thanks, Ceol, but my humbly-suggested link was a mere catalyst which triggered your subsequent atomic reaction! You’re a real professional. And you posted it to the db as well, to your great credit. I’ve added it to y “mustlearrnthese” list, and look forward to being able to play it soon. That’s what the “session” should be about – someone asking, someone responding - and even the person responding learning something new.
Ceol - Regarding your question about Swedish bagpipes, I’ve always been interested in tunes using the melodic ascending A-minor scale, and I recently ordered a set of Säckpipa in order to pursue this special interest. Unfortunately, my neighbour (Swedish speaking) spotted the words: “Säckpipa” and Svenska” on the courier truck, and has threatened to instigate court proceedings against me for noise nuisance should I make any attempt to play them. So they are still languishing in their beautifully carved pinewood case. Very sad! I plan to offer them to Ikea to use to enhance their displays of high-quality furniture.
That is sad. In my 'collections' there's a book and measured drawings for the same... One group I've had the pleasure of, Swedish, featured the pipes and also the Swedish harp. It was a valued possession I am sadly without at the moment. I love that rawness, but yes, there is no such thing as a mute for the pipes, other than to bury yourself in douvets...
Anybody know this tune's name?
Anybody know this tune's name?
You may have see a Swedish gentleman on YouTube playing this tune on one of those mechanically amplified / horn fiddle dealies...
it starts off like this
X:1
T:unknown (Swedish?)
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:360
K:Gmaj
|:gfg2d2de|dcB2G2G2|g2ec egfd|faga bagf|
efg2d2de|dcB2G2G2|g2ec egfd|fag2.gg.gz:|
anyone have a clue what it could be?
(no joy on tune finder)
cheers!
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by greybeardd
Re: Anybody know this tune's name?
Could you add a link to the YouTube clip?
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by Henk Bos
Re: Anybody know this tune's name?
sure here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMvdtRaulG4
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by greybeardd
Re: Anybody know this tune's name?
Sounds like 'The Sailor's Hornpipe' at the beginning, but I wasn't that sure as it got a little further in.
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by mrkelahan
Re: Anybody know this tune's name?
This is not the Sailor's Hornpipe (though I can hear what you meant, mrkelahan), it's probably a Swedish tune like you said.
I like Swedish music, but dunno a lot about it. If you do a search with 'Sweden' in the members section, you'll find some persons you could e-mail.
Good luck !
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by Henk Bos
Re: Anybody know this tune's name?
Hi greybeardd - great clip!
I believe though that we have two tunes here, rather than one (the Swedish gent plays the first tune, then the second tune, then finishes with a short reprise on the first tune).
I think that I've heard both tunes before - can't remember where. They come across to me rather like Northumbrian rant tunes (hornpipe metre and structure, but played undotted). It may be of course that both tunes are Swedish, and perhaps specifically from the island of Gotland. If this is the case, you'll probably find them on this site ...
http://www.gotlandstoner.se/web/
... which has masses of Gotland tunes in abc, gif and midi formats. The only difficulty is that everthing there is in Swedish, and there is no translation!
I wish you you well with your quest. If you succeed, please post the abc(s).
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by Mix O'Lydian
Re: Anybody know this tune's name?
It's music for a 'quadrille', the same source for the dances in Ireland now tended to be called 'sets', which were originally 'sets of quadrilles', or 'sets' of figures that are taken as one, or a 'set' of figures such as the "Clare Plains Set" or "The Sliabh Luachra Set". In the countries of the North they were known and popular, including "The Lancers", or as one example in Finland, "The Lansii". Sometimes they survive as a single run of figures, sometimes they surivive in a set, with breaks between the parts and different music for each, as with the survivors and new-wave ones in Ireland. This one is ~the "Skräddarkadrilj" ~ 'kadril'... This would be for one figure, and sometimes tunes are strung together to fit the movements in the dance, which could support Mix's previous comment.
Sorry, while I've probably danced this, as it has a ring of familiarity, I don't know the music for it, but may still have it here somewhere.
Nice link Mix. Do you also play the Swedish bagpipe?
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan
From Mix's link, I'd start your search here ~
http://www.gotlandstoner.se/web/index/kadrilj.html
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan
Re: Anybody know this tune's name?
Yes, I do now recognize the melody ~
~ anacrusis again ~
X:1
T: unknown (Swedish?)
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
K: Gmaj
|: gf |\
g2 d2 dedc | B2 G2 G2 g2 | eceg fdfa | gaba gfef |
g2 d2 dedc | B2 G2 G2 g2 | eceg fdfa | g2 .gg .gz :|
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan
Re: Anybody know this tune's name?
X: 632
T: Skräddarkadrilj
S: Första kadriljen på Gotland [enligt tradition, uppt. efter »Florsen» i Burs.
Z: 18 dec 2003, Clara
M: C
L: 1/8
R: Kadrilj
K: G
|: gf |\
g2 d2 dedc | B2 G2 G3 g | e2 eg f2 fg | agfe d2 gf |
g2 d2 dedc | B2 G2 G3 g | e2 eg f2 fa | g6 :|
K:D
|: fg |\
a4 abag | f4 fgfe | d2 d2 c2 c2 | d2 d2 defg |
a4 abag | f4 fgfe | d2 d2 c2 c2 | d6 :|
K:G
|: dB |\
G2 G2 GBdB | G2 G2 GBdB | c2 ec B2 dB | AGFG A2 dB |
G2 G2 GBdB | G2 G2 GBdB | c2 ec D2 FA | G6:|
|:dc|B3d dedc B3d dedc|c2B2c2B2 A3d d4|
d4 e2f2 g4 agfe|d2c2 BcAB G6:|
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan
T: Skräddarkadrilj ~ Sorry, premature button pushing
X: 632
T: Skräddarkadrilj
S: Första kadriljen på Gotland [enligt tradition, uppt. efter »Florsen» i Burs.
Z: 18 dec 2003, Clara
M: C
L: 1/8
R: Kadrilj
K: G
|: gf |\
g2 d2 dedc | B2 G2 G3 g | e2 eg f2 fg | agfe d2 gf |
g2 d2 dedc | B2 G2 G3 g | e2 eg f2 fa | g6 :|
K:D
|: fg |\
a4 abag | f4 fgfe | d2 d2 c2 c2 | d2 d2 defg |
a4 abag | f4 fgfe | d2 d2 c2 c2 | d6 :|
K:G
|: dB |\
G2 G2 GBdB | G2 G2 GBdB | c2 ec B2 dB | AGFG A2 dB |
G2 G2 GBdB | G2 G2 GBdB | c2 ec D2 FA | G6:|
|: dc |\
B3 d dedc | B3 d dedc | c2 B2 c2 B2 | A3 d d4 |
d4 e2 f2 | g4 agfe | d2 c2 BcAB | G6 :|
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan
Thanks to mix for making it easier for me. I didn't have to sort through the stacks...
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan
Oops! ~ still slow, forgot the link, which includes dots and midi ~
http://www.gotlandstoner.se/web/632.html
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan
Re: Anybody know this tune's name?
wow thanks alot everybody!
i didn't expect such luck with this one. Just goes to show when it comest to traditional music, (traditional northwestern European music...) it's a small world ;)
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by greybeardd
Skräddarkadrilj ~ sorry, forgot the rest too ~
T: Skräddarkadrilj
S: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMvdtRaulG4
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: Kadrilj
K: GMaj
|: gf |\
g2 d2 dedc | B2 G2 G2 g2 | eceg fdfg | agfe degf |
g2 d2 dedc | B2 G2 G2 g2 | eceg fdfa | g2 gf g2 :|
K: DMaj
|: (3efg |\
a2 a2 abag | f2 f2 fgfe | d2 d2 c2 cc | d2 d2 defg |
a2 a2 abag | f2 f2 fgfe | d2 d2 c2 cc | d4 d2 :|
K: GMaj
|: dB |\
G2 G2 GBdB | G2 G2 GBdB | c2 ec B2 dB | AGFG AAdB |
G2 G2 GBdB | G2 G2 GBdB | c2 ec AFFF | G4 G2 :|
|: dc |\
B2 d2 dedc | B2 d2 d2 B2 | c3 (3/d/c/B/ c2 B2 | A6 ^cc |
d3 d e2 f2 | g2 g2 agfe | d2 d<c BcAB | G6 :|
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan
Skräddarkadrilj ~ the 2/4 option for notating this
~ but it would pose problems... It is better in 4/4...
T: Skräddarkadrilj
M: 2/4
L: 1/8
R: Kadrilj
K: GMaj
|: g/f/ |\
gd d/e/d/c/ | BG Gg | e/c/e/g/ f/d/f/g/ | a/g/f/e/ d/e/g/f/ |
gd d/e/d/c/ | BG Gg | e/c/e/g/ f/d/f/a/ | gg/f/ g :| ~
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan
Re: Anybody know this tune's name?
In character its definitions would rhythmically be 2/2 ~ two beats to a measure. But, Irish reels, also bearing that similarity, are also notated as 4/4, grouping the notes in a way that clearly shows the duple character of the measure ~ | eceg fdfg | agfe degf | ~ ...
I could see giving this one a little more swing, in a jaunty barndance sort of way...
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan
T: Skräddarkadrilj
M: 4/4
L: 1/8
R: Kadrilj
K: GMaj
|: g>f |\
g2 d2 d>ed>c | B2 G2 G2 g2 | e>ce>g f>df>g | a>gf>e d>eg>f |
g2 d2 d>ed>c | B2 G2 G2 g2 | e>ce>g f>df>a | g2 g>f g2 :| ~
The kind of steps you often find with these quadrilles aren't far removed from the usual for such an approach to rhythm, as with a hornpipe or barndance/schottische ~ hop-1-2-3... But simple running steps are also used... I wonder if I can get my hands on a dance description? I love these quadrilles, wherever they hail from...
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan
Quadrille From Skräddar ~ Dots and midi for you, here on site, by request?!
"Skräddarkadrilj"
Key signature: G Major & D Major
Submitted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/8741
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan
Re: Anybody know this tune's name?
Thanks for the thanks, Ceol, but my humbly-suggested link was a mere catalyst which triggered your subsequent atomic reaction! You’re a real professional. And you posted it to the db as well, to your great credit. I’ve added it to y “mustlearrnthese” list, and look forward to being able to play it soon. That’s what the “session” should be about – someone asking, someone responding - and even the person responding learning something new.
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by Mix O'Lydian
Re: Anybody know this tune's name?
Ceol - Regarding your question about Swedish bagpipes, I’ve always been interested in tunes using the melodic ascending A-minor scale, and I recently ordered a set of Säckpipa in order to pursue this special interest. Unfortunately, my neighbour (Swedish speaking) spotted the words: “Säckpipa” and Svenska” on the courier truck, and has threatened to instigate court proceedings against me for noise nuisance should I make any attempt to play them. So they are still languishing in their beautifully carved pinewood case. Very sad! I plan to offer them to Ikea to use to enhance their displays of high-quality furniture.
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by Mix O'Lydian
Re: Anybody know this tune's name?
That is sad. In my 'collections' there's a book and measured drawings for the same... One group I've had the pleasure of, Swedish, featured the pipes and also the Swedish harp. It was a valued possession I am sadly without at the moment. I love that rawness, but yes, there is no such thing as a mute for the pipes, other than to bury yourself in douvets...
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan
I wonder if you could use something like a trumpet mute?
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan
Re: Anybody know this tune's name?
Check your post Mix!
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan