My son wants to try the bodhran workshop at Warwick Folk Festival next weekend but we don't have a bodhran. I don't want to have to buy one until I'm sure he's going to continue. Any suggestions on what he could use as a substitute, to to practice and see how he gets on? Would a tin tray work? Or a sheet of cardboard? Or 3-ply? Anything else?
Thanks
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PS. Does anyone in the Warwick area have a spare bodhran they could lent to Kismul for a couple of days? I would lend him one, but I live in a different country and don't play the bodrhan. (is that sensible enough?)
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Hi airport - what does " ... donated to llig ..." mean? Is that an abbreviation for something, or am I just being thick? (The latter is always a distinct possibility!).
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We did the pizza box thing at our town's Irish Fest last year. Glad to say I was far from the whole experience, but my buddy got Shanghai'd into it. Picture if you will a circle of 10-15 non musicians all wacking away on pizza boxes with one lone tin whistler jigging away.
Not me. I was over fiddling for the toddlers' free-form dance extravanganza. That's much more my speed. Give me happy three year olds shimmying around, falling on the ground and laughing hysterically. You can keep the cranky teenagers beating up pizza boxes.
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I suspect Kismul may secretly want to immunise his son against the bodrhan... once he's known the ridicule of going into a workshop full of earnest bodrhan players clutching his pizza box...
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Before I bought a bodhrán, I practiced on an old kids hardback annual (one of mine!). I think it helped my playing - I learned the beating bit first, rhythm and dynamics, before having to worry about the drum side of things.
Good luck!
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I don't know about going to a workshop, but all the suggestions such as pizza boxes, old annuals and such, are actually true if you want to see if he has an aptitude for playing the thing. I always advise people to practice on a cereal box before they actually buy a drum.
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sorry Kismul - that was a not very good inside joke. I have to agree with de Selby and Bodhran Bliss that it might be a little embarrassing to show up at a workshop with a pizza box - maybe if he hid it in a banjo case? (everyone would be relieved it was just a pizza box). Sometimes they have loaner bodhrans at those workshops...
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Now I would have enjoyed that personally. Perhaps some of the wait staff could come in their uniforms and help us teach the workshop?
No, unfortunately they're a good 2.5 hour drive from us, and the wee little old Irish American ladies on the festival committee probably would have had a heart attack had I asked them to go there soliciting donations.
The wee little old Irish American men on the other hand would probably offer to drive…
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airport - I am presently tickled by the thought of llig flitting through the alleys of Edinburgh with a whole lot of bodhrans bowling along at his heels, like something that might have crossed the imagination of Robert Louis Stevenson...
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As I remarked on a previous discussion, I recently played in a session with an Iranian daf player. Those things are bleeding loud, and he was only using his fingers. Definitely not for a novice with no discretion or volume control.
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Send a pizza for Kismul junior to use as a bodhran then Steve. An overcooked thin crust would be good (tonal qualities). The anchovies and cheese and so on would have a dual role as a source of nutrition during the festival.
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I'm also tickled by the thought of dodging in and out of the doorway of the Jingling Geordie as bodhran after bodhran crashes past bouncing down the steps of Fleshmarket Close. Straight over Market Street and in by the back entrance to Waverley to be distributed between platforms 8-15 and finally crushed by large metal machines owned by Richard Branson.
Anyway, to be serious, The best substitute for a bodhran is something that plays notes.
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I see - you wouldn't want to ride your bike through there! You should film your bagpipe commute and enter it in our film festival http://www.filmedbybike.org/call.html
thanks for fleshing out the fleshmarket image...
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hmmm interesting. I like the idea of filming it. It's Edinburgh festival time soon so perfect timing. How about a split screen with two head cams, one pointing forward and the other pointing back? And you'd need two pretty good directional mikes, one forward and one back. So the soundtrack works in stereo on either side of the split screen. Difficult to get the wind noise out of the mikes though, even with those big fur sausage things. I'm gonna look into it though.
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Yeah, but how much editing would it need? I think it would be funniest if it was presented as one take, east to west. You could explain what you are doing, like a kid's science lesson, show the parifinalia on your bike, then get on it and do it.
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There's a chap here in Melbourne who plays the book(a diary) like a bodhran.He's quite solid with his timing, although I had a shot at him once for playing only "covers".
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I was just about to say the same thing Tony.
Also at the national folk fest in canberra last year, some kid turned up to every session playing a cardboard box with one of those brush tippers. Very strange.
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Yohan,
Could you send again? I've just realised that I haven't updated my email address on here. The old one died when beeb.net closed at the end of June. I've changed it now.
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Wait, for comic effect we need to have Mr. Steve Shaw sitting by the side of the road, happily munching on a pizza box, as llig and the bodhrans race by...
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A note to say that I've had an offer of a bodhran loan for the festival, which is gratefully received. Fair restores my faith in my fellows and demonstrates what a fine bunch of people are the Sessioneers. (Is that the correct collective noun?).
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Kismul - glad to hear you've found a bodhran, and your song's perfect for the end credits of a little film project we're working on. Bodhran Bliss - I'll have my people call your people. We'll have lunch - something with sprouts...
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Now Mr. Bliss, that wouldn't be sporting. Perhaps it should be the instruments in question themselves, a bodhran versus fiddle duel? Kismul's song can play in the background?
Airport, you'd may want to get the investors on the horn. Between Bliss' fee and the licensing for Kismul's reworking of that Phil Spector song, the Accounting is getting ugly quickly.
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Here is my contribution to the discussion to which I hope will make it go downhill even further and faster.
Sometimes at acoustic jam sessions where I am playing my bass fiddle, instead of playing notes by plucking the strings, I have used the bass fiddle as a drum. I tap or beat on the bass fiddle with my fingers and/or my whole hand. It is such a big wooden box that it makes a good drum sound.
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"I'm the kind of guy who when he sees one of those big chest refrigerator things, just can't help wondering what it would sound like if you hit it with a cricket bat. A dam site better than a drum, I'd guarantee it." Tom Waits
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Just to veer back in the general direction of the question ~ There is the palm of the other hand, but I remember well a workshop that used lengths of dowling with the ends rounded and a load of cardboard boxes ~ pizza, cereal, etc. ~ with a load of children banging away in good cheer. They were able to manage the basics, including one too often missing from some bangers ~ to distinguish between tune froms, such as between a jig and a reel... A tin tray or pot will just add irritation, as would a pint glass, which raises health and safety issues, as if banging the bodhran didn't already...
I see Llig is out of his cage again... They just can't seem to find a decent lock for either of us, eh?
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i heard ringo change key and player three tunes with me one night ....the people that cant do that shouldnt be let buy or near one........learn a proper instrument.....no offence...
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Ringo Starr plays bodhran? You learn something everyday.
And today it is this. You can't change key on a bodhran, even with a capo, because you are not in a key in the first place. It is a simple instrument, designed to keep time, and in the right hands, enhance and enliven certain sets.
As to the definition of a "proper" instrument, well..........
You could try joining the Berlin philharmonic, on triangle.
Or would some ar#ehole sneer at you, and then say "no offence?"
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Today I was reading through the posts back in February re, Mark Stone, Bodhran. Wondered if attitudes had changed. Have just joined up, to see for myself. Clicked the first reference I found. It seems nothing changes. I hope the wee lad enjoys his workshop, and that someone is near enough to lend him one of the infernal machines that most of us like to knock, no pun intended.
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I can't believe no one has suggested a set or two of calf shin bones. The wooden versions are very inexpensive. They are NEVER mentioned in these discussions ???
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At the old-time music session which I go to once a month, there used to be a man who brought the jawbone of an ass (or some other animal) and played rhythm by beating on the jawbone with a drumstick (a real drumstick, not a chicken leg).
Bodhran substitutes - any (sensible) suggestions?
Bodhran substitutes - any (sensible) suggestions?
My son wants to try the bodhran workshop at Warwick Folk Festival next weekend but we don't have a bodhran. I don't want to have to buy one until I'm sure he's going to continue. Any suggestions on what he could use as a substitute, to to practice and see how he gets on? Would a tin tray work? Or a sheet of cardboard? Or 3-ply? Anything else?
Thanks
Jim
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by Kismul
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Air bodhran ?
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by de Selby
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here's a bodhran tutorial on a pizza box - good luck!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zqjrEOorJKg
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by airport
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PS. Does anyone in the Warwick area have a spare bodhran they could lent to Kismul for a couple of days? I would lend him one, but I live in a different country and don't play the bodrhan. (is that sensible enough?)
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by de Selby
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I believe several bodhrans were donated to llig at some point?
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by airport
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Close aiport, technically they were thrown at him.
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
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Hi airport - what does " ... donated to llig ..." mean? Is that an abbreviation for something, or am I just being thick? (The latter is always a distinct possibility!).
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by Kismul
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We did the pizza box thing at our town's Irish Fest last year. Glad to say I was far from the whole experience, but my buddy got Shanghai'd into it. Picture if you will a circle of 10-15 non musicians all wacking away on pizza boxes with one lone tin whistler jigging away.
Not me. I was over fiddling for the toddlers' free-form dance extravanganza. That's much more my speed. Give me happy three year olds shimmying around, falling on the ground and laughing hysterically. You can keep the cranky teenagers beating up pizza boxes.
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
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I suspect Kismul may secretly want to immunise his son against the bodrhan... once he's known the ridicule of going into a workshop full of earnest bodrhan players clutching his pizza box...
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by de Selby
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By the way, I never could get the order of the d, h and r right, and I think I may be becoming proud of that
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by de Selby
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You could use the circle tray in the pizza box?!?!?!
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by Fiddle95
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The cricket-playing son of a football-loving Scot is not easily ridiculed - sadly.
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by Kismul
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Before I bought a bodhrán, I practiced on an old kids hardback annual (one of mine!). I think it helped my playing - I learned the beating bit first, rhythm and dynamics, before having to worry about the drum side of things.
Good luck!
\())
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by greenman
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I don't know about going to a workshop, but all the suggestions such as pizza boxes, old annuals and such, are actually true if you want to see if he has an aptitude for playing the thing. I always advise people to practice on a cereal box before they actually buy a drum.
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by bodhran bliss
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sorry Kismul - that was a not very good inside joke. I have to agree with de Selby and Bodhran Bliss that it might be a little embarrassing to show up at a workshop with a pizza box - maybe if he hid it in a banjo case? (everyone would be relieved it was just a pizza box). Sometimes they have loaner bodhrans at those workshops...
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by airport
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We leveled the playing field at our workshop. Everybody gets a pizza box! No prima donnas! Pizza boxes for everyone!
Seriously, it was cool, lots of fun, we even got a local restaurant to donate them. Hey, free advertising for them. [shrug]
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
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SWFL - I hope the restaurant wasn't
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/8515
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by airport
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SWFL, you need to buy some of these and sell them at next year's festival
http://www.cafepress.com/ITMGoodies/5301126
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by Reverend
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Now I would have enjoyed that personally. Perhaps some of the wait staff could come in their uniforms and help us teach the workshop?
No, unfortunately they're a good 2.5 hour drive from us, and the wee little old Irish American ladies on the festival committee probably would have had a heart attack had I asked them to go there soliciting donations.
The wee little old Irish American men on the other hand would probably offer to drive…
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
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HA HA! PERFECT REVEREND!!!
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
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airport - I am presently tickled by the thought of llig flitting through the alleys of Edinburgh with a whole lot of bodhrans bowling along at his heels, like something that might have crossed the imagination of Robert Louis Stevenson...
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by nicholas
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As I remarked on a previous discussion, I recently played in a session with an Iranian daf player. Those things are bleeding loud, and he was only using his fingers. Definitely not for a novice with no discretion or volume control.
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by Guernsey Pete
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thanks for sharing that lovely image nicholas - such a great description I can actual visualize it as an old book engraving...
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by airport
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There are no pizza boxes in our house. We eat the boxes and throw the pizzas away. You've got to get your vitamins somehow.
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by Steve Shaw
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Send a pizza for Kismul junior to use as a bodhran then Steve. An overcooked thin crust would be good (tonal qualities). The anchovies and cheese and so on would have a dual role as a source of nutrition during the festival.
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by Bernie 29
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I'm also tickled by the thought of dodging in and out of the doorway of the Jingling Geordie as bodhran after bodhran crashes past bouncing down the steps of Fleshmarket Close. Straight over Market Street and in by the back entrance to Waverley to be distributed between platforms 8-15 and finally crushed by large metal machines owned by Richard Branson.
Anyway, to be serious, The best substitute for a bodhran is something that plays notes.
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by llig leahcim
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Or another image, of llig as a sort of Pied Piper, luring the bodhrans out of Edinburgh, where they had been tormenting the local population.........
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by Guernsey Pete
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For Heaven's sake get a bodhrán. A pizza box will just not do.
# Posted on July 23rd 2008 by Joe CSS
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Don't be silly, Bernie! How can I possibly send young Kismul a pizza? I haven't got a box to post it in!
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by Steve Shaw
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llig - it doesn't look steep enough
http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_eng_one/0_engraving_-_one_1_232_fleshmarket_close.htm
incidentally, is that where you experienced the HBP doppler effect? (I'm tickled by that one)
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by airport
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Oh it's steep enough alright
http://www.stuckonscotland.co.uk/pictures/edinburgh/royal_mile_28.jpg
And there's the pub sign for the Jingling Geordie.
The GHB doppler thing is the mile long Prince's Street. You have to get up some speed for it to work. In Summer you'll pass maybe 4 or 5.
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by llig leahcim
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I see - you wouldn't want to ride your bike through there! You should film your bagpipe commute and enter it in our film festival
http://www.filmedbybike.org/call.html
thanks for fleshing out the fleshmarket image...
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by airport
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hmmm interesting. I like the idea of filming it. It's Edinburgh festival time soon so perfect timing. How about a split screen with two head cams, one pointing forward and the other pointing back? And you'd need two pretty good directional mikes, one forward and one back. So the soundtrack works in stereo on either side of the split screen. Difficult to get the wind noise out of the mikes though, even with those big fur sausage things. I'm gonna look into it though.
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by llig leahcim
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that'd be amazing - I'd be happy to help with editing...
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by airport
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Yeah, but how much editing would it need? I think it would be funniest if it was presented as one take, east to west. You could explain what you are doing, like a kid's science lesson, show the parifinalia on your bike, then get on it and do it.
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by llig leahcim
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well... you're probably right, but if it gets to be too technically challenging then I'll help you fake it in 1970s Star Wars style
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by airport
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There's a chap here in Melbourne who plays the book(a diary) like a bodhran.He's quite solid with his timing, although I had a shot at him once for playing only "covers".
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by Tony O'Rourke
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I was just about to say the same thing Tony.
Also at the national folk fest in canberra last year, some kid turned up to every session playing a cardboard box with one of those brush tippers. Very strange.
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by bb
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The brush, the box or the kid?
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by mcknowall
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Kismul - check your email - I will be at Warwick and can probably help out
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by Yohan
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Yohan,
Could you send again? I've just realised that I haven't updated my email address on here. The old one died when beeb.net closed at the end of June. I've changed it now.
Many thanks.
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by Kismul
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Well done with the visual aids llig and airport! Allows the mind to make a very clear picture.
"...and llig led all the bodhrans all the way to the sea and into the ocean. The townspeople rejoiced, and lived happily ever after. The end."
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
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Wait, for comic effect we need to have Mr. Steve Shaw sitting by the side of the road, happily munching on a pizza box, as llig and the bodhrans race by...
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
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Kismul - resent
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by Yohan
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AIr hammers?
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by zippydw
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I like it SWFL - all it's missing is the final scene where llig and someone else come up out of the ocean fighting with swords. Maybe bodhran bliss?
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by airport
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YES, that's perfect! The final climactic battle between bodhran good and evil!
Oh the drama, THE DRAMA!
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
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How much? Eejits like Nicholson get about 10 mil a picture. as the leading light of the Oriel Theatre Company I do not come cheap.
But swords? Llig is used to a bow action which is like a sword. Can I use an AK 47?
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by bodhran bliss
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A note to say that I've had an offer of a bodhran loan for the festival, which is gratefully received. Fair restores my faith in my fellows and demonstrates what a fine bunch of people are the Sessioneers. (Is that the correct collective noun?).
Thanks to all
Jim
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by Kismul
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Re-reading my previous message, I realise I've got the beginnings of a Phil Spector chorus in there....
"Met him on a Monday, and my heart stood still,
Ah bodhran loan, loan, A bodhran loan...
Someone said he had some bodhran skill,
Ah bodhran loan, loan, A bodhran loan..."
Etc. etc.
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by Kismul
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Kismul - glad to hear you've found a bodhran, and your song's perfect for the end credits of a little film project we're working on. Bodhran Bliss - I'll have my people call your people. We'll have lunch - something with sprouts...
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by airport
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Now Mr. Bliss, that wouldn't be sporting. Perhaps it should be the instruments in question themselves, a bodhran versus fiddle duel? Kismul's song can play in the background?
Airport, you'd may want to get the investors on the horn. Between Bliss' fee and the licensing for Kismul's reworking of that Phil Spector song, the Accounting is getting ugly quickly.
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
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Ack. Will you puh-lease take off that agent's hat now?
# Posted on July 24th 2008 by airport
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See you in Cannes.
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by bodhran bliss
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Someone wants to put bodhrans and sensible into the same conversation? On this discussion board? It is no wonder it has gone downhill from there!
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by AlBrown
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Here is my contribution to the discussion to which I hope will make it go downhill even further and faster.
Sometimes at acoustic jam sessions where I am playing my bass fiddle, instead of playing notes by plucking the strings, I have used the bass fiddle as a drum. I tap or beat on the bass fiddle with my fingers and/or my whole hand. It is such a big wooden box that it makes a good drum sound.
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by fauxcelt
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"I'm the kind of guy who when he sees one of those big chest refrigerator things, just can't help wondering what it would sound like if you hit it with a cricket bat. A dam site better than a drum, I'd guarantee it." Tom Waits
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by llig leahcim
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Tom, or Tommy to his friends, was always the jealous sort.
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by bodhran bliss
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Just to veer back in the general direction of the question ~ There is the palm of the other hand, but I remember well a workshop that used lengths of dowling with the ends rounded and a load of cardboard boxes ~ pizza, cereal, etc. ~ with a load of children banging away in good cheer. They were able to manage the basics, including one too often missing from some bangers ~ to distinguish between tune froms, such as between a jig and a reel... A tin tray or pot will just add irritation, as would a pint glass, which raises health and safety issues, as if banging the bodhran didn't already...
I see Llig is out of his cage again...
They just can't seem to find a decent lock for either of us, eh?
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by ceolachan
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Speaking of banging strange percussion, who can forget Spider Stacy's classic beer tray on head during The Battle of Brisbane and The Waxies Dargle?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ureyxEltZ6A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAufzEH0ZMY
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
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Now kids, don't try that at home. Only under proper hooligan instruction.
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
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I started on a frisbee! Mind you I was 3 years old and trying to copy someone I'd seen playing the bodhrán on tv.
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by iainsm
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i heard ringo change key and player three tunes with me one night ....the people that cant do that shouldnt be let buy or near one........learn a proper instrument.....no offence...
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by bud an asal
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what would their last words be as the bow rawns leaped in to the sea be..............
what would the natives think??????
# Posted on July 25th 2008 by bud an asal
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Ringo Starr plays bodhran? You learn something everyday.
And today it is this. You can't change key on a bodhran, even with a capo, because you are not in a key in the first place. It is a simple instrument, designed to keep time, and in the right hands, enhance and enliven certain sets.
As to the definition of a "proper" instrument, well..........
You could try joining the Berlin philharmonic, on triangle.
Or would some ar#ehole sneer at you, and then say "no offence?"
# Posted on July 26th 2008 by bodhran bliss
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Today I was reading through the posts back in February re, Mark Stone, Bodhran. Wondered if attitudes had changed. Have just joined up, to see for myself. Clicked the first reference I found. It seems nothing changes. I hope the wee lad enjoys his workshop, and that someone is near enough to lend him one of the infernal machines that most of us like to knock, no pun intended.
# Posted on July 26th 2008 by longlegs
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ringo mc donagh.......
by pressin on the skin he was changing the key to fit the tune...
an digeann tu?
# Posted on July 26th 2008 by bud an asal
Re: Bodhran substitutes - any (sensible) suggestions?
I can't believe no one has suggested a set or two of calf shin bones. The wooden versions are very inexpensive. They are NEVER mentioned in these discussions ???
# Posted on July 28th 2008 by hauke
Re: Bodhran substitutes - any (sensible) suggestions?
At the old-time music session which I go to once a month, there used to be a man who brought the jawbone of an ass (or some other animal) and played rhythm by beating on the jawbone with a drumstick (a real drumstick, not a chicken leg).
# Posted on July 28th 2008 by fauxcelt