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How seriously do you take the mustard board debates????

How seriously do you take the mustard board debates????

Since I started using this hallowed mustard board there's been a fair few heated debates, some to the point that it seems like seriously bad blood is occurring between debating factions.

A few people (probably including myself) are known for saying things very directly to the point that it seems to offend some other people.

So the question is how seriously do you all take these discussions?

When people say things you disagree with in a big way does it offend you so much that you take a personal dislike to those people who say these things?

From my own point of view, while I've had some heated debates with a few people here I don't bear any malice towards any of them.

It's all a bit of fun really......isn't it?????

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Worldwide Pants

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Most of the profiles on this site are anon... so i find taking a personal dislike to a name that someone hides behind a bit strange.

If i don't agree with anything on this board... i just ignor it... and get on with my life.

:o)

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by davydd

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The heated debates can make you question your own ideas - at least
that has happened to me.

Sometimes I imagine lurkers having a laugh though.

Like, imagine James Kelly or Mary McNamara lobbing in with 'hello I
am [ ... ] and what you just said about [enter subject here] is
nonsense".

FIDDLE4 could do that with great credibility, but fair play to him for
letting us muck around.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Hup

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I would just rather have some more of those Paddy Fahey tunes please Flocc.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Donough

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Dots vs. notes; session etiquette; bodhran bashing; performances vs. sessions; I've been here only three years and I've seen these same topics come up over and over again, like gas after too many sausages. Still, they are fun to read, plus, the odd newcomer usually has some different twist to add.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Greg the Piano Tuner

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Debates? :-/

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by ceolachan

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Hey, how did you do that face icon with the rolling eyes? I can
only do these ones: :) :( ;)

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Hup

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Depends on the nature of the posting - there has been a fair amount of useful information between the banter and baiting!
And lots of the posts have been entertaining - if not always for the right reasons!!

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Tarrantella

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I pass over the extended quarrels that take place - one person telling the other that he's a terminal retard / elitist snob / you name it.

In old Scots law such challenges and scuffles were known as " f l y t i n g ", a splendid word that conjures up the image of demented spuggies sparring in the dust in a flurry of feathers. It happens.

But on the board I don't want to read it or join in, especially as coherent argument and interesting information has usually gone awol by then, and I do think some of the put-downs can cause anger, pain and damage; the adage "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never harm me" - or words to that effect - doesn't in the last bit ring true, to me at any rate.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by nicholas

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QUOTE HUP: Sometimes I imagine lurkers having a laugh though.

Like, imagine James Kelly or Mary McNamara lobbing in with 'hello I
am [ ... ] and what you just said about [enter subject here] is
nonsense. UNQUOTE

Heheh. This is precisely what happened to me a little while back on another board when I was having a bit of a go about Eliza Carthy. She waded right into the fray!

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Steve Shaw

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rolling eyes: : - /

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by TMB

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Oh, and to the question: I read it, I soak up anything that's worth it, have a laugh at the banter, and forget the rest an instant later.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by TMB

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The only thing that has angered me is when some chap a while ago who had never posted before posted in a sarcastic conversation between two friends, reprimanding them for their "rudeness" to each other. I sent an angry mail. o:-) (that's an angel btw...)

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by mehitabel23

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Sometimes you learn something out of the big rows, mostly they're free entertainment.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by TheSilverSpear

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Your halo has slipped mehitabel.
I don't take any web forum too seriously.
It helps living in NE Scotland, where you get used to people being blunt and not taking offence

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Bren

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IMHO, the only thing worth taking seriously here is the rich wealth of solid information. Facts remain facts, the concrete remains the concrete. Opinions, however, (like this one) are merely that, and you take your chances.
As for the debates, it still gets rude here at times. Not just strong viewpoints, but meanness. The insiders and "good ol' boys" here will not be bumped off no matter how nasty they become. That will not change, because it does not have to.
I simply try to remember not to post in such a debate, nothing gains.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Rook

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I don't take it seriously at all, but I know some people take what I say seriously. I've even had e-mails from members telling me to "F**K OFF" in big capital letters. What can you do but chuckle?

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Dow

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Well, mustard goes well with a pinch of salt!

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by the wounded hussar

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Much like life, it can be taken way too seriously. Best to take it with Hussar's grain of salt. ;-)

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by SWFL Fiddler

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wait a second....I've been taking all this down and entering it in my notebook and pondering it all very seriously......


you mean to say you were all just effing around??????

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Nate Ryan

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Why would you bother to write some thing down on this web site, if you're not meaning it?

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Karate Wocky Tocky

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Karate Wocky Tocky, meet craic. Craic? Meet Karate Wocky Tocky.

You know, with a name a like Karate Wocky Tocky (it was so fun I had to type it three times) I'd think you wouldn't be such a stranger to amusing nonsense. ;-)

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by SWFL Fiddler

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that's easy...you have some extra time to kill, and if you started fiddling on the job you'd get fired for sure

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Nate Ryan

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not much.

After you get to know the tendencies/thought patterns of the regulars, you learn to take alot of the opinion stuff with a grain of salt.

On the other hand, theses same folks are knowledgable and often really experienced players so you learn to sort through the often meandering musings!

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by zippydw

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I like to read the comments and posts on this web site because the members of this web site are from and live in several different countries.
To me, it is interesting to learn how musicians in other states and other countries view this music and how they think about it even if I don't agree with them.
I live in Arkansas and I seldom get the chance to travel out-of-state due to lack of money and family obligations so this web site is an opportunity for me to discuss music with other musicians besides talking to the musicians at the local sessions.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by fauxcelt

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'craic'? that aint what the geezer flockin..pillock or whatever, what started this descussion said. He says he says things directly. does that mean slagging someone else then? And its all a bit of fun. Slagging someone you dont know is a bit of fun?

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Karate Wocky Tocky

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Uh-oh, perhaps you're right, Tocky, we may need a Floccin-explanation. Well flocc me. Am I actually trying to sort out something between two e-folks names Floccisaywhat and Wocky Tocky? What the flocc?

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by SWFL Fiddler

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All I know is that even at it's most argumentative and obnoxious, this forum is 1000 times more entertaining and civil than most boards. Spend a second browsing the YouTube comments, for example, and see that it's nothing more than screaming obscenities. At least here the insults are creative and seasoned with some thoughtful invectives. Casual and reckless abusive of the poor old F-bomb is so cliche'.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Jusa Nutter Eejit

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I don't take the debates themselves too seriously; as others have said they're entertaining and there's often useful info in them.

Personally, I usually don't get too upset over someone disagreeing with me. I'd be really bored if everyone agreed, and when someone disagrees with what I say sometimes it's an opportunity to learn something. I like that you can ask a question here and usually get a pretty good answer once the dust settles and you weigh the different opinions.

What does make me angry is when people are rude, dishonest, or disrespectful. Ironically, when I get upset I can cross the line and be rude sometimes too, so I try to stay out of the fights, or at least drop out when it gets ridiculous and let someone else have the last word.

But I agree with JNE, this board is a lot more polite and respectful than most boards on the 'net. I think the people here tend to be a bit more mature than the average web poster. Folks like Jig are the norm elsewhere.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Marklar

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I think JNE just made a good point. Some of the best and most creative insults I have heard didn't use a single cuss word.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by fauxcelt

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If you want some great insults without profanity, get them from the master:

http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/index.html?

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Marklar

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I generally don't take the debates too seriously. That wasn't always the case - on one occasion, a particular person got me so wound up that I lost my cool and told them to bugger off (that thread had well over 400 posts, many of which were washed away into the ether). But after that, I decided that I was taking it too seriously, and left the forums for a while.

However, I do think that some people treat the online forum as if it has no connection to the real world, and don't realize that they may be damaging their reputation within what is essentially a small, tight-knit community.

And I also know a couple of lurkers that most people on this site would be horrified to learn were watching the antics. So with that in mind, I generally try to make sure that my posts are something that I am comfortable with the world seeing.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Reverend

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Amen Rev, in fact, if you meet me in person, you'll find I make ridiculous and stupidly inane yet humorous statements in public as well.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by SWFL Fiddler

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'And I also know a couple of lurkers that most people on this site would be horrified to learn were watching the antics.'

Pete, you dropped something. again.
;_|

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Hugo Chavez

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you cant take this site seriously anymore (well i dont). its beginning to stagnate. i mean , the same old discussions come up and most of the new ones are pointless questions that get 2 replys saying"look back over previous threads". Even the tunes posted now are obscure or self penned that no one wants to take to a session.Scrap the discussion board (it wastes my time as well) and just use the site as a reference for trad tunes and current sessions. thats what its best at.Sh%t im so cynical.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Newty

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There are still plenty of sessionable tunes not yet on the database. How many have you submitted, Newty? To what extent are *you* contributing? Never mind about anyone else.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Dow

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Newty, I'm not so sure that anything has changed much here. I've only been here a few years but it's been the way you describe the whole time. It just gets easier to notice the longer you've been here.

I like this discussion board because of all that I've learned from it. I came here as a former classical player who knew nothing about trad, and frankly I'd have been lost without the guidance of people posting here. There's a lot of chaff, but the wheat is still quite tasty.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Marklar

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Whenever I catch myself taking the more heated discussions on this site too seriously, I remind myself of this little cartoon. I think someone else on this forum has linked to it before, but it always brings a smile and an unclenching of the jaw:

http://xkcd.com/386/

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by fliedermaus

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ROFL! I need to print that one out.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Marklar

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If I understood bleeding ABC then I might be able to contribute a tune.
As it is I'm restricted to finding them and commenting; when things are seriously requested, and I have something to add, I try and do it in all seriousness, especially when you have young newbies needing help.
As for the funnies, hell, it's the craic, ain't it ?

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Guernsey Pete

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fliedermaus, there's more to the cartoon if you hover your mouse pointer over it.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Marklar

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Zero tunes dow-i didnt realise it was a requirement that we submit tunes in order to join in.. As i said, its a good reference tool.check out my previous comments dow-they are mainly tongue in cheek unless the discusion involves banjos-thats all i know about- anything wrong with that? dont forget dow, the question was how serious etc and my answer was " not that serious thanks". We all have an opinion and thats mine.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Newty

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@screetch: LOL, I never noticed that!

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by fliedermaus

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</lurk>
LOL

I like this one
http://xkcd.com/438/

<lurk>


# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by cStu

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>> Pete, you dropped something. again.

Nope, didn't drop it... Just implied that I was carrying it ;-)

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Reverend

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One thing I learned about these Internet arguments (debates) is that a lot of time is wasted and the point goes astray when people fail to properly understand what each other is saying. Before long the argument is about what was said rather than what the debate was about. If people made an effort to understand what the other person is saying and careful to be clear about what they're saying -- there's a chance to actually get somewhere. In-person discussions are better because there's so much more to the communication. Besides that, you have more respect for people you're physically in the same room with.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Phantom Button

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is it meant to be serious,surely not?
all these pompous pricks ejaculating over their own pearls of wisdom.
Is it some kind of religion? ITM as laid down by session sermons,the gospel as spoken by the mighty musicians at www.session .org,
the true interpretation as laid down in the book of Jeremyah,cast out all disbelievers,cast out dissenters,he who must not be named,shall be sentenced to outer cyberspace.
remember ITM not about enjoyment or the Craic,its about taking oneself very seriously,proving youare a better player than the next,being competitive,playing the twiddles exactly asDenisMurphy played them in 1954.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by dickens metrognome

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No, it's not at all "a bit of fun" really. The pronouncements on this board are deadly serious. I would advise not even touching 'em till they're cold.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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Oy, Dickens. That (the pearls) has to be the grossest metaphor I've read here, or maybe anywhere.

How do I erase that image from my brain???

Ugh>

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by grego

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Very

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by bodhran bliss

Do you taste the mustard?

The question is ironic considering emails I have received from 'Someone at TheSesson'
. . . if you follow my drift.

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Random_notes

???

Session

# Posted on July 3rd 2008 by Random_notes

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Grego, those nice people in white coats in the US military have methods of erasing images (and everything else) from the brain just by playing music - any music - for 24/7 at extremely high decibels. Alternatively, there's a session here in Bristol that can do much the same thing :-)

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by lazyhound

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You're a bitter man, Dick. I've had the odd ding-dong around here meself but I think you and I must be reading different boards. There's no law says you have to bother with it all.

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by Steve Shaw

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I get really worked up - obviously - I just cant help it. Some stuff that is said on this site would be really hilarious if it wasnt so bad.

As to people who lurk - I knowa few very sh*t hot players who come on here for a laugh when they feel down. So think of it as a public service, we are doing a nice thing for people, providing free entertainment.

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by bb

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On second thought, I do take it too seriously. Jig suckers me in, every time.

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by Marklar

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steve shaw
,I am a very happy man ,because when I wake up ,I think another day playing music,then I think of some of my contemporaries who for health reasons cant play any more,and I sit down,I thank god for my health and I enjoy my music
.I would be bitter if I coulndt play any more,good health,wassail
Dick Miles.

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by dickens metrognome

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If the post mentions the bodhoran, it should be taken very, very seriously....... there is some serious baiting about to take place.

On the other hand, if the post speaks ill of the devil's instruments (PA and AC), a seriously defensive stance must be taken.

Apart from that, don't take it too seriously.

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by geoffwright

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So if you thank god for your good health, is it god you would be bitter at if you were ill?

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by llig leahcim

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Sometimes I take 'em seriously, sometimes I don't.
And what difference does it make ?

Here's a curious and amusing morsel that appeared on my path...some wisdom from 1894

As inscribed in the Annual Convention Congress of the Hoboes of America held on August 8, 1894 at the Hotel Alden, 917 Market St., Chicago Illinois;

1.-Decide your own life, don’t let another person run or rule you.

2.-When in town, always respect the local law and officials, and try to be a gentleman at all times.

3.-Don’t take advantage of someone who is in a vulnerable situation, locals or other hobos.

4.-Always try to find work, even if temporary, and always seek out jobs nobody wants. By doing so you not only help a business along, but insure employment should you return to that town again.

5.-When no employment is available, make your own work by using your added talents at crafts.

6.-Do not allow yourself to become a stupid drunk and set a bad example for locals treatment of other hobos.

7.-When jungling in town, respect handouts, do not wear them out, another hobo will be coming along who will need them as bad, if not worse than you.

8.-Always respect nature, do not leave garbage where you are jungling.

9.-If in a community jungle, always pitch in and help.

10.-Try to stay clean, and boil up wherever possible.

11.-When traveling, ride your train respectfully, take no personal chances, cause no problems with the operating crew or host railroad, act like an extra crew member.

12.-Do not cause problems in a train yard, Another hobo will be coming along who will need passage thru that yard.

13.-Do not allow other hobos to molest children, expose to authorities all molesters, they are the worst garbage to infest any society.

14.-Help all runaway children, and try to induce them to return home.

15.-Help your fellow hobos whenever and wherever needed, you may need their help someday.

16.-If present at a hobo court and you have testimony, give it, whether for or against the accused, your voice counts!

http://e-hobo.com/

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by wolfbird

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Ok. That's #10 done.

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by Gzeg

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llig,
are you god?

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by dickens metrognome

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No, Dickens!!!!! He's a false prophet!!!! Don't get sucked in!!!!

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by grego

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Gzeg, you're slipping.

I managed all but 4, 7, 9, 13, 14 and 16 today and with hardly any effort at all. However, I'm planning on breaking #6 tomorrow.

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by Floss the Tethers

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I really want to try "jungling." It sounds very adventurous.

Do you need a pith helmet?

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by grego

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I must defend Mr Llig and declare that I am God.

Thought everyone knew that.

And please take this seriously.

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by bodhran bliss

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Bless you grego, but no, jungling is not a sport. Jungle is a word for hobo camp.

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by Atahualpa Quigley

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I always wanted to be Zod.

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by Steve Shaw

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Dear Mr. B. Bliss,

Thank you for your recent application for the post of God in Northern Ireland (ref. DfEL 01/666).

We regret to inform you that, though interested in your intriguing variety of qualifications and attributes, the selection panel felt that you lacked sufficient experience to be considered for interview at this juncture.

However, the panel asked me to inform you that there will soon be vacancies for minor deities in certain parts of counties Antrim and Tyrone. You will be contacted when such vacancies arise.

Yours sincerely,

P. O'Neill (Ms.)

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by Floss the Tethers

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But I have been playing God for years.

I will take this to the Equality commission on the grounds that only Jews are considered as God.

Why not a Catholic/Presbyterian/Methodist God?

You will be hearing more about this.

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by bodhran bliss

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Good Lord.

:-)

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by grego

Can we start calling it the Cheese Board instead?

Thank you

# Posted on July 4th 2008 by Bren

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I thought Number #7 said "jangling". Either I need new glasses or I need to get myself on the outside of some more caffeine before I read anything else.
I thought "false prophet" occurs when the bookkeeper for a business makes a mistake in their calculations.
I still like the old joke about the dyslexic atheist who didn't believe in Dog.

# Posted on July 5th 2008 by fauxcelt

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Dear Mr. B. Bliss,

I am surprised by your response which, I am sorry to say, illustrates that you might lack the omniscient qualities claimed in your CV.

The current post of God in Northern Ireland is held, as you should know, by an Armagh-born lad who now lives in Ballymena.

The DfEL is an equal opportunities employer and has no interest in its employees' religious backgrounds.

Yours sincerely,

P. O'Neill (Ms.)

# Posted on July 5th 2008 by Floss the Tethers

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Is that "the" P.O'Neill?

# Posted on July 6th 2008 by bodhran bliss

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Have you people learnt nothing? You should know to never doubt the word of god. If god says he's god, then he is.

# Posted on July 6th 2008 by llig leahcim

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Amen! Brother llig leahcim!

# Posted on July 6th 2008 by fauxcelt

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Dear Mr B. Bliss,

I'm afraid that I am only 'a' P. O'Neill - your erroneous use of double quotation marks further undermines your assumption of god-like qualities.

Yours,

P. O'Neill (Ms.)

P.S. By the way, if you fancy playing Cúchullain in panto this December, we might have an opening for you in Enniskillen.

# Posted on July 6th 2008 by Floss the Tethers

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But is Mr Bliss only "a" god?

Is "a" god lesser than "the" god?

# Posted on July 6th 2008 by llig leahcim

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"But is Mr Bliss only "a" god?"
Read Terry Pratchett's "Small Gods", which sets out in detail the hows, whys and wherefores of being "a" god.

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by lazyhound

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Briefly, if, according to the theology of Terry Pratchett's Discworld, enough sentient beings believe in Mr Bliss he automatically becomes a Small God.
There'll be no stopping him now :-)

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by lazyhound

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>> There'll be no stopping him now

Right now, he is very similar Om as the frail turtle, wandering around, proclaiming that the he is the "great God Bliss", but nobody believes in him ;-)

And if he gets too big, you just have to stop believing in him, and he'll go back to being a proto-god, floating around, trying to produce small drumming miracles and looking for potential believers...

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by Reverend

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very similar *to* Om

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by Reverend

How do you serve the mustard ? ?

No seriously; how do you distinguish the "debates" from the comic "banter" ?

. . . I mean on this forum. It is much easier in the jungle.

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by Random_notes

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I have been averting global catastrophes at the weekend in a Godly fashion, so was unable to respond.

I am "THE" God.

As for panto, I am the leading light of the Oriel Theatre Company so panto should be easy.

You know what "P.O'Neill" I mean.

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by bodhran bliss

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"I have been averting global catastrophes"

Sooo, you're a *benevolent* deity ? Then, how come you let bad things happen ? How do you choose which catastrophes to avert ?

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by wolfbird

Do you take the mustard board to be your awful wedded strife

I am thankful all I want is a good session.
'cuz some of this is as clear as mud.

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by Random_notes

*

A good session "&"
awkward cross - posts.

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by Random_notes

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Of course we know that Small Gods (Bliss and others) must exist with powers appropriate to their status - just read this little gem:

http://www.null-hypothesis.co.uk/science/spoof/articles/falling_toast_butter_down_God

(I must admit I was waiting for a thread to take a vaguely theological turn as an excuse for this post!)

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by lazyhound

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wasn't it Pratchett that said that you could build a levitation device by strapping a piece of buttered toast onto a cat's back, because a cat always lands on its feet, and toast always lands butter down?

# Posted on July 7th 2008 by Reverend

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Wolfbird, do not get theological with me. "You let bad things happen".

Like Manchester United winning in Europe? Antrim hurlers being trounced? JfiddlerH learning a new tune after ten years?

Sometimes I am busy elsewhere.

# Posted on July 8th 2008 by bodhran bliss

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"Sometimes I am busy elsewhere."

If you were *really* THE God you claimed to be, then you'd be omnipresent, and if you're omnipresent, there's no such place as 'elsewhere'....so, I don't really believe you're God, bliss, I think you were having me on...

;->

# Posted on July 8th 2008 by wolfbird

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Just passing through on my way to somewhere else...

I take them seriously, and always did, especially when they're not meant to be serious. You learn a lot about people when they think they're anonymously posting, or when they think they're being funny, or when they're angry or happy, or the way they insult or compliment other people. And yes, the way people post here has definitely impacted how I see them and whether I'm going to bother trying to get in a few tunes with them or not.

Music (and discussion about music) is always about people. One way or another.

And now I'm gone again...

# Posted on July 8th 2008 by Zina Lee

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We've actually had 'a few tunes', I'm told, Zina. But in crap circumstances, and when I was in a real grump. So I didn't notice. Shame.

# Posted on July 8th 2008 by benhall.1

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Pete, Pratchett's levitation device - it would work only for a very short time because the cat would twist round, lick the butter off the toast and then fall on its feet.

# Posted on July 8th 2008 by lazyhound

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Oh ye of little faith, Wolfbird. Is your name Thomas?

# Posted on July 8th 2008 by bodhran bliss

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Wow, a Zina drive-by posting! Amazing! (Probably just trying to maintain her 400 post lead over Dow, I'm guessing)

lazyhound, it seems to me that you could find just the right spot to strap the buttered toast so that the cat levitation device would work for at least a few minutes :-)

# Posted on July 8th 2008 by Reverend

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The cat would get dreadfully giddy (not to say confused) because it would start rotating about its longitudinal axis, and if a rotating mass is rotating fast enough it would start to distort space-time in its vicinity (dragging it around). In this case, because of the low mass of the participant, the rotation would have to approach light speed at the periphery of the rotating mass, which would bring about other interesting relativistic effects.
Hmm, I'm burbling a bit - it's a very long time since I did any of this stuff - but I'm now inclined to revise my first opinion in favour of Terry Pratchett's hypothesis. After all, I think I'm correct in saying that he has the likes of Prof. Ian Stewart as scientific adviser.

# Posted on July 8th 2008 by lazyhound

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How many of you remember when I entertained the multitude with five bodhrans and four guitars?

Then we sat down and ate bread and fish.

# Posted on July 8th 2008 by bodhran bliss

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Zeens! Just like old times....them were the days:(

# Posted on July 8th 2008 by bb

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What if you just buttered the cat?

# Posted on July 8th 2008 by benhall.1

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Just make sure Marlon Brando's not around...

# Posted on July 8th 2008 by grego

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Ben, sadly, buttering the cat wouldn't work. For one thing, the animal will be fully occupied cleaning itself for next hour. Secondly, you've got to be using a slice of buttered toast for it to work. See the link I posted on the 7th for the full analysis.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by lazyhound

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I think it is fairly obvious now how seriously some of us take the mustard board debates.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by lazyhound

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I read the link most carefully, Lazyhound.

... in that case, how about one of those medial collars on the cat? The sort that would stop it being able to lick itself ... or the toast ...

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by benhall.1

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Benhall, you're missing the point... it's buttered *toast* that falls butter-down, not buttered cats!

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by Reverend

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What if you toasted the cat?

[and that would have been "medical" collars in the post above]

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by benhall.1

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I'm just about to have breakfast. And my cat's annoying me. I think I might try an experiment ...

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by benhall.1

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When my cat's annoying me, all I have to do is reach for my whistle.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by Ramiro

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Ben, if you try that experiment (buttered toast strapped to the cat's back) and the cat starts rotating in mid-air about its longitudinal axis, whatever ever you do DON'T TOUCH IT, and get out of the house quick.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by lazyhound

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Ben, if the worst happens you'll have to contact Dr Stibbons PDQ. He's a Departmental Head and Reader at the UU, and is the only person who'll have any idea how to sort it out.
My word, that chap at University College, London didn't have any idea of what he was starting.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by lazyhound

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If you just buttered both sides of the toast you wouldn't need the cat :-)

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by bowburner

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No. That doesn't work. It would surely just fall to earth quicker.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by benhall.1

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But which side would it land on? Surely both sides would want to land face down and therefore a constant rotation would occur with neither side landing first. You could also try it with two cats strapped back to back, but then the RSPCA might wish to get involved.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by bowburner

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I have two cats ...

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by benhall.1

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I also have an assistant called Matt.
One of my cats is thin.
One of my cats is fat.
My fat cat likes Matt.
My fat cat sat on Matt.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by benhall.1

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Before you ask ...

My fat cat does not have a hat.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by benhall.1

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I have a catskin hat. When it's windy, I smear butter on the inside. Stops it from blowing off.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by wolfbird

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When it might get run over ...
... and go 'splat'

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by benhall.1

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If I strapped my two cats together back to back, they would levitate on their own without the need for me to drop them. Unfortunately, it would be the equivalent of unleashing a cuisinart into midair, and I wouldn't want to be anywhere near it!

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by Reverend

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Butter? Cats? What's for dinner, fellas?

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler

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SWFL, it appears to me that you're not taking this debate seriously! :-/

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by Reverend

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Hey now, if we're talking food, I'm always serious!

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler

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OK, just in case Fingers, Stitch and Holly are reading this at home, Daddy's kidding, he loves you all very much. Don't you dare scratch up my Laz-E-Boy again though or you're all in big flippin' trouble.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler

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You won't let them near your Laz-E-Boy, but you'll let them on the computer??

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by Reverend

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I just discussed this with my cat. She informs me that, if I attempt to smear butter on her carefully groomed fur, I will be the one landing face down. And there will be blood.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by Bob himself

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As the following article: http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/456914
notes, shops in Quebec will very soon be selling butter-coloured margarine.

So I really have to open the question up: what happens when you spread margarine on francophone cats?

(Tabernac!)

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by grego

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Or, to put it in the form of a riddle:

There were three cats: "Un Cat", "Deux Cat" and "Trois Cat"

"Un cat" was thrown off a boat, just as he was. He was upset, but he managed to clamber back on board.

"Deux Cat" had butter smeared all over and was thrown overboard. He was unable to climb back on board (too slippery) but managed to swim ashore.

"Trois Cat" was covered with margarine and was thrown overboard.

Now: what do you think became of "Trois Cat"???

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by grego

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I'm just guessing that (un, deux) trois cat sank

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by benhall.1

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Chalice!!

Yes benhall.

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by grego

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sacrament hosti!

# Posted on July 9th 2008 by airport

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I suspect that's another of those jokes that'd get you shot in Texas...

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by wolfbird

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Reverend, you have cats, you know how it is. They go anywhere they want!

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler

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We don't shoot you in Florida, we'll take you to the swamp and leave you there if you keep telling jokes like that. ;-)

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler

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'Go tell that one to the alligators', eh....

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by wolfbird

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Have any of you perhaps thought of trying the experiment with buttered toast with another animal such as a dog or a hamster or a gerbil or a guinea pig or maybe something a little bit larger such as an elephant?
Of course, in Florida, this experiment would be done with an alligator.
And, in Texas, they would probably use an armadillo.
Here in Arkansas, though, we would use a Razorback.

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by fauxcelt

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I'm not so sure that alligators are renowned for their ability to land on their feet, no matter which way you drop them... :-/

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by Reverend

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Usually after someone drops a gator the next action is to run really fast!

..and the only time we put butter on them is when we're eating them. Of course, they taste just like chicken. ;-)

# Posted on July 10th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler

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SWFL Fiddler, did you know that chicken tastes just like chicken? Even after Tyson has tried to ruin it by processing it?

# Posted on July 11th 2008 by fauxcelt

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