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Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
Well i think this is debatable to say the least as whether or not this is wrong. Before you all jump out of my LCD monitor and throttle me i'm not saying copied or pirated music is OK just that well i know it's legally wrong to upload material on YouTube that you don't own but who gets hurt? If i were a mainstream musical band and i saw my material on YouTube i'd be grateful for the "Free" advertisement. After all the uploader doesn't make any money in fact it costs them in bandwith. I've came across musicians on YouTube by accident that i'd never heard of before (Plaidgrass) and liked them so much i found myself downloading one of their tracks from I-Tunes so there's a sale they wouldn't of had if it weren't for YouTube.
Start the ball folks
Re: Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
Well, some really poor-quality recordings of us lot playing in pubs has been put on YouTube without asking us first (I would have said no), and I don't like it much, but if pressed I must admit I don't give a monkey's mickey. But then I'm not a professional musician.
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I'm sorta in the same boat with you a little bit. We are helping these bands spread their music around to people that otherwise never ever be in a position to hear it and decide that they like it. There's a fine line though I guess. I'm definitely not for copying music for others who don't want to buy cd's.
I've wondered about this for certain music apps on places like facebook where you can upload an url link from a place you've uploaded a tune from a cd that you own to the music app, then that allows you to play it own a profile player for visitors to listen and know about your musical tastes and interests and spread the music of artists your friends may never have heard of before. In this case, others can only stream the music from your page and can't actually download a copy for themselves or anything.
I think this could actually help artists in the traditional music scene get their music out who usually never get air play on radio or get big record labels to sign them or have other mass media market attention paid to them like that of country , hip-hop,pop , r&b, rock and other "popular" music styles.
Re: Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
True, you may not, with some web applications, be able to download a sound file but only stream it; but if you can hear it when it's being streamed then it can be recorded as a wav file onto your hard drive - I've done this several times when all I've wanted from a YouTube video is the audio. The streaming file may also, with many applications (YouTube included) appear in your browser's cache from which it can be retrieved when the streaming is finished. All that remains then for you to do is to ascertain what type of video/audio file it is, and give it an appropriate extension and a meaningful name.
In an extremity, if you can't record an incoming audio file onto your hard drive, but you can still hear it, then you should be able to link up the audio output from the computer to a tape recorder - the quality won't be so good, but it will probably be sufficient.
Re: Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
If someone in a session, or closely connected with it, makes a video or audio recording for uploading onto YouTube, Sound Lantern or the like, then it is only good manners to ask the people being recorded for their permission for the upload to go ahead. A refusal should always be respected. It may be possible of course to edit out someone who doesn't want to appear on a video. There can be good reasons why someone doesn't want to be recorded, an obvious one being that they think they're playing terribly on that day.
But what cannot be so easily controlled are photos, videos and audios being made by members of the public in a pub. We've all been in sessions where this occurs, and most of the time we have no idea it's happening or whether the results are going to appear on the web in due course. To be fair though, on one occasion I was playing in a session in Crowley's (Kenmare) and a couple of tourists did ask permission to take photos.
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I've seen people re-post other people's videos on YouTube and I can never see the point of that. When I've posted videos I've made myself, I find the comments really useful (apart from the usual nutcases) - and even reply to some of them. I think of it as a sort of extended, time-shifted gig where you get to meet a few of the audience.
I recently found, though, that someone took one of my videos and simply re-uploaded it onto their space, so now they're getting comments "as if" the video is theirs and not mine. Money is not an issue - I'm not losing revenue, as I never had any in the first place - but it is my property / work they're appropriating, and that really gets my goat.
This one gripe aside, if people ask to (say) use your music as a soundtrack in a video of their own, and credit you with it, I'm cool with that and have always said yes.
Re: Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
PS ....I don't so much mind casual bits of video where I was seen playing somewhere, amongst a group of other musicians. That's quite fun in a weird sort of way - a bit like seeing yourself through someone else's eyes. Apart from my one gripe in the comment above, I think YouTube is the future of TV!
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My friend says she has found heaps of videos of her doing sessions, she wouldnt mind so much if people just had the manners to ask. But she finds a little hard when all these videos keep popping out that she didnt even know where being taken.
Re: Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
There's loads of videos of Sandy Bells sessions on YouTube. Happily enough, I've not seen me in any of them yet but it weirds me out a bit that there's a decent chance of me being on a video, if not already than sometime in the future.
Re: Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
I'm on quite a few, I couldn't give a toss really. Though it bloody annoys me when someone sticks a feckin' camera in you face. Can't be bothered if they do it discreetly
Re: Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
My concern would be for someone who has consciously not recorded their own playing for public consumption. If the intruding videotaper has troubled to get their name, the plaintiff might find an unflattering representation of their playing on You Tube as the only record of their music .
Re: Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
If someone wants to post my playing on YouTube or Sound Lantern, they are welcome to do that if they ask me first whether or not I mind having myself and my playing on the Internet for anyone and everyone to watch. However, I can't understand why anyone would want to look at my plain, homely, and unhandsome self.
Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
Well i think this is debatable to say the least as whether or not this is wrong. Before you all jump out of my LCD monitor and throttle me i'm not saying copied or pirated music is OK just that well i know it's legally wrong to upload material on YouTube that you don't own but who gets hurt? If i were a mainstream musical band and i saw my material on YouTube i'd be grateful for the "Free" advertisement. After all the uploader doesn't make any money in fact it costs them in bandwith. I've came across musicians on YouTube by accident that i'd never heard of before (Plaidgrass) and liked them so much i found myself downloading one of their tracks from I-Tunes so there's a sale they wouldn't of had if it weren't for YouTube.
Start the ball folks
# Posted on June 25th 2008 by upmine3
Re: Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
Well, some really poor-quality recordings of us lot playing in pubs has been put on YouTube without asking us first (I would have said no), and I don't like it much, but if pressed I must admit I don't give a monkey's mickey. But then I'm not a professional musician.
# Posted on June 25th 2008 by Steve Shaw
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My grammatical skills have clearly taken the day off.
# Posted on June 25th 2008 by Steve Shaw
Re: Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
I'm sorta in the same boat with you a little bit. We are helping these bands spread their music around to people that otherwise never ever be in a position to hear it and decide that they like it. There's a fine line though I guess. I'm definitely not for copying music for others who don't want to buy cd's.
I've wondered about this for certain music apps on places like facebook where you can upload an url link from a place you've uploaded a tune from a cd that you own to the music app, then that allows you to play it own a profile player for visitors to listen and know about your musical tastes and interests and spread the music of artists your friends may never have heard of before. In this case, others can only stream the music from your page and can't actually download a copy for themselves or anything.
I think this could actually help artists in the traditional music scene get their music out who usually never get air play on radio or get big record labels to sign them or have other mass media market attention paid to them like that of country , hip-hop,pop , r&b, rock and other "popular" music styles.
# Posted on June 25th 2008 by JD-DHguitar
Re: Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
True, you may not, with some web applications, be able to download a sound file but only stream it; but if you can hear it when it's being streamed then it can be recorded as a wav file onto your hard drive - I've done this several times when all I've wanted from a YouTube video is the audio. The streaming file may also, with many applications (YouTube included) appear in your browser's cache from which it can be retrieved when the streaming is finished. All that remains then for you to do is to ascertain what type of video/audio file it is, and give it an appropriate extension and a meaningful name.
In an extremity, if you can't record an incoming audio file onto your hard drive, but you can still hear it, then you should be able to link up the audio output from the computer to a tape recorder - the quality won't be so good, but it will probably be sufficient.
# Posted on June 25th 2008 by lazyhound
Re: Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
If someone in a session, or closely connected with it, makes a video or audio recording for uploading onto YouTube, Sound Lantern or the like, then it is only good manners to ask the people being recorded for their permission for the upload to go ahead. A refusal should always be respected. It may be possible of course to edit out someone who doesn't want to appear on a video. There can be good reasons why someone doesn't want to be recorded, an obvious one being that they think they're playing terribly on that day.
But what cannot be so easily controlled are photos, videos and audios being made by members of the public in a pub. We've all been in sessions where this occurs, and most of the time we have no idea it's happening or whether the results are going to appear on the web in due course. To be fair though, on one occasion I was playing in a session in Crowley's (Kenmare) and a couple of tourists did ask permission to take photos.
# Posted on June 25th 2008 by lazyhound
Re: Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
I've seen people re-post other people's videos on YouTube and I can never see the point of that. When I've posted videos I've made myself, I find the comments really useful (apart from the usual nutcases) - and even reply to some of them. I think of it as a sort of extended, time-shifted gig where you get to meet a few of the audience.
I recently found, though, that someone took one of my videos and simply re-uploaded it onto their space, so now they're getting comments "as if" the video is theirs and not mine. Money is not an issue - I'm not losing revenue, as I never had any in the first place - but it is my property / work they're appropriating, and that really gets my goat.
This one gripe aside, if people ask to (say) use your music as a soundtrack in a video of their own, and credit you with it, I'm cool with that and have always said yes.
# Posted on June 25th 2008 by Mark Harmer
Re: Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
PS ....I don't so much mind casual bits of video where I was seen playing somewhere, amongst a group of other musicians. That's quite fun in a weird sort of way - a bit like seeing yourself through someone else's eyes. Apart from my one gripe in the comment above, I think YouTube is the future of TV!
# Posted on June 25th 2008 by Mark Harmer
Re: Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
My friend says she has found heaps of videos of her doing sessions, she wouldnt mind so much if people just had the manners to ask. But she finds a little hard when all these videos keep popping out that she didnt even know where being taken.
# Posted on June 26th 2008 by bb
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There's loads of videos of Sandy Bells sessions on YouTube. Happily enough, I've not seen me in any of them yet but it weirds me out a bit that there's a decent chance of me being on a video, if not already than sometime in the future.
# Posted on June 26th 2008 by TheSilverSpear
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It seems to me posting without permission is, in many cases, simply rude.
As opposed to marketing without permission, which should be simply ilegal.
Of course, I do not think I have ever been posted, nor am ever likely to be, therefore I can only sympathize, not empathize.
# Posted on June 26th 2008 by Rook
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I'm on quite a few, I couldn't give a toss really. Though it bloody annoys me when someone sticks a feckin' camera in you face. Can't be bothered if they do it discreetly
# Posted on June 26th 2008 by llig leahcim
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Whenever anyone pokes a camera at me, I always intentionally play out of tune and time (insert smiley of choice)
# Posted on June 26th 2008 by tlittlewazzock
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My concern would be for someone who has consciously not recorded their own playing for public consumption. If the intruding videotaper has troubled to get their name, the plaintiff might find an unflattering representation of their playing on You Tube as the only record of their music .
# Posted on June 26th 2008 by oldstrings
Re: Do you agree with posting other people's music on YouTube?
If someone wants to post my playing on YouTube or Sound Lantern, they are welcome to do that if they ask me first whether or not I mind having myself and my playing on the Internet for anyone and everyone to watch. However, I can't understand why anyone would want to look at my plain, homely, and unhandsome self.
# Posted on June 26th 2008 by fauxcelt