Seamus Ennis learned this tune from his fathers manuscript.there has been much condemnation about learning tunes from manuscripts,clearly it didnt bother Seamus. http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=lLe9etQ0iwQ ,hope you enjoy.
Dick Miles
LOL, I think this site should be renamed" www.thehairsplitterimpaired.org
Dickens, Everyone agrees that learning tunes from ink on a page is a far second best to learning them from another player. But we also all recognize that anyone as well immersed in the tradition as Seamus Ennis can flesh out the dots or abcs and learn tunes that way.
The point HAS ALWAYS BEEN--don't assume you can come to this music with ***no prior experience*** in it and learn to play it well from written notation.
It truly boggles my mind how some people here seem unable to read and comprehend the basic distinctions others make on such points. You'd think that a community of folks who love this extremely nuanced music would have little trouble with "nuances" (which are about as subtle as a two-by-four across the bridge of the nose) like the above distinction.
We've always said that a player well versed in the style can recreate a tune from a manuscript. What would make it even easier would be if the player well well aquainted with the player that wrote the manuscript. I wonder, had Seamus ever met his dad?
LING and I have played music together several times and got on well.we have had disagreements, since, in cyberspace,as do a lot of people[perhaps the absence of body lasnguage is a problem].both disciplines are useful [dots and ear playing]much music would have been lost in former timeswere it noyt for manuscript.
ARMAGH PIPERS CLUB Have brought out useful whistle books,with explanations about interpretation,beginners please note,this would suit beginners or classical musicians who are more happy with the reading discipline.learning to play by ear is useful as well,but [IMO]Learning the two disciplines is the most useful.Dick Miles
seamus ennis on you tube
seamus ennis on you tube
Seamus Ennis learned this tune from his fathers manuscript.there has been much condemnation about learning tunes from manuscripts,clearly it didnt bother Seamus.
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=lLe9etQ0iwQ ,hope you enjoy.
Dick Miles
# Posted on May 17th 2008 by dickens metrognome
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LOL, I think this site should be renamed" www.thehairsplitterimpaired.org
Dickens, Everyone agrees that learning tunes from ink on a page is a far second best to learning them from another player. But we also all recognize that anyone as well immersed in the tradition as Seamus Ennis can flesh out the dots or abcs and learn tunes that way.
The point HAS ALWAYS BEEN--don't assume you can come to this music with ***no prior experience*** in it and learn to play it well from written notation.
It truly boggles my mind how some people here seem unable to read and comprehend the basic distinctions others make on such points. You'd think that a community of folks who love this extremely nuanced music would have little trouble with "nuances" (which are about as subtle as a two-by-four across the bridge of the nose) like the above distinction.
# Posted on May 17th 2008 by Will CPT
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Have you met Dick?
# Posted on May 17th 2008 by Lingpupa
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We've always said that a player well versed in the style can recreate a tune from a manuscript. What would make it even easier would be if the player well well aquainted with the player that wrote the manuscript. I wonder, had Seamus ever met his dad?
# Posted on May 18th 2008 by llig leahcim
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Seamus also said he got some of the phrasing from listening to a thrush.
I wonder what kind of notation birds use.
# Posted on May 18th 2008 by Bob himself
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Bob, nased on my experience with walking below pigeons, I believe it's called sh*t music.
# Posted on May 18th 2008 by Will CPT
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LING and I have played music together several times and got on well.we have had disagreements, since, in cyberspace,as do a lot of people[perhaps the absence of body lasnguage is a problem].both disciplines are useful [dots and ear playing]much music would have been lost in former timeswere it noyt for manuscript.
ARMAGH PIPERS CLUB Have brought out useful whistle books,with explanations about interpretation,beginners please note,this would suit beginners or classical musicians who are more happy with the reading discipline.learning to play by ear is useful as well,but [IMO]Learning the two disciplines is the most useful.Dick Miles
# Posted on May 18th 2008 by dickens metrognome
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I just wanted to post on this thread before it devolves. It's kind of incredible to read more than one sensible post on this issue!
# Posted on May 18th 2008 by reenactor
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http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=aF3fW4Nox9U&feature=related
unforunately there are some silly comments ,which are best ignored,hope you enjoy the music.DickMiles
# Posted on May 18th 2008 by dickens metrognome