Anyway, I am getting married on Thursday, and after our honeymoon, my wife and I will be driving up (from Oklahoma) to Wisconsin, where I'm from, for the summer. After that we'll be going to California, where I'll be attending UC Santa Barbara for my MA and PhD in Ethnomusicology.
The purpose of this discussion is twofold. (bad idea? hopefully not) One, to say hello to the Santa Barbara folks on this board. And two, in the last year I acquired about three shelves worth of vinyl records (a few hundred perhaps) for free. I now have to drive a couple thousand miles without these melting from the sun or being otherwise damaged. Any suggestions on keeping my records safe? (Or about Santa Barbara?)
Switch on your air conditioning and carry a concealed weapon -
don't worry - the constitution guarantees your right to bear arms.
Oh, yeah stay out of Irish neighborhoods after dark lest they go
after your 'stash'
Just what the world of ITM needs - yet another ethnomusicologist! How in the world did we manage for hundreds of years without this species of academic
Ugh, traveling in the heat with records could be somewhat problematic, but if you travel with them lying flat, you might do OK. A stack of records lying flat will generally not warp, except maybe the top few, because the weight of the vinyl will keep the lower ones flat, even if they get warm enough to soften.
You'll want to make sure that they're lying on a flat surface (a hardened board, or something sturdy like that), and then maybe another flat board, with some weight, on top. That way, even if they get warm enough to soften, they have no way of warping. And they would have to get really warm to melt enough to damage the grooves.
Congrats on your pending nuptials! (Who gets married on a Thursday? )
What's wrong with ethnomusicology, bullwall? I quite like the idea of studying, playing, and teaching the music I love for a living. I'm actually studying Indian music, not ITM, though. ITM warms my soul outside of school.
As for the Thursday wedding, that was what it took to be able to get the minister we wanted within a week of graduation, so that my parents could come down to Oklahoma for both graduation and the wedding.
Thanks for the record suggestions. Keep 'em coming!
Last summer I had all my records (and everything else) packed by movers and shipped a long way through some of the warmer parts of the US. I watched them pack the records and what I saw was that they boxed them really tight so they couldn't move at all. They arrived ok.
You don't say where you're going to put them: u-haul, trunk, back seat. In trunks on long drives the area over the wheel wells tends to be the hottest. I don't suppose a u-haul would get hotter than a moving van trailer. Back seat would have them in the sun and you would probably want to carry them inside every night. Good Luck.
Yeah, a tight box can be an OK way to do it. But be careful, I've had records warp over time because of the slightly curved corners of the cardboard boxes. You would probably be OK with them that way for a few days of moving.
"Everybody's out having fun, in the warm California sun..."
Everyone, that is, except the vinyl records. The California sun has a special heat. An intense heat. A hot heat.
The Donner Party, their wagons laden with pemmican and vinyl records, thought a winter passage through the High Sierra was worth risking simply to avoid that kind of hot. Many of them died and were eaten. The vinyl was okay.
"in the last year I acquired about three shelves worth of vinyl records (a few hundred perhaps) for free."
~ lucky you. Are these all Irish?
Flat, lots and lots of cardboart cut to size, maybe in no more than 10 or 12 to a lot, but packed tight... That doesn't necessarily solve the problem. Vinyl was cut off of rolls, it has a memory and that memory is 'curved', or so I've been told, and that is why heat will make them warp. However, having them flat, with some compression, in a box and the weight of each other, should probably help prevent this to some extent. Have them in manageable sizes and weights, you don't want to be trying to move a lot at any one go. Better many small packages than several ungainly and heavy ones.
Congratulations on all counts. I've only heard good things about the program at Santa Barbara... If you'd chosen Newfoundland instead the cost of living would be lower, the general setting more interesting, IMO, and it would be generally cooler... The same would be true of Queens in Belfast...
Any insulation, cardboard included, and such as sleeping bags beneath, around and on top, also insulates to some extent both ways, including keeping heat out, to a point...
I'd give a call to someone who does this professionally...in Oz I'd call the National Film and Sound Archives....and find the professional nerd who wrote a thesis and as a living ensures that the vinyl being stored on behalf of the nation is preserved properly. There will be similar good natured, helpful and wonderful nerds in the US.
A good nerd is invaluable. I once managed, whilst taking the rent monies of public housing tenants who were suffering a flea infestation from surrounding fields of long grass, to track down a grad student who had written his masters on fleas....and was able to inform thousands of tenants that rather than emptying their washing machine waste water into the sewers......they empty it in to buckets and pour it over the grass in their yards. Because dried soap suds impeded the life cycle of the flea....and was one of the few ways to stop it breeding! Two weeks later the infestation was ended....and both nerd and me were feeling very good about ourselves!
I'm off to California with records in tow...
I'm off to California with records in tow...
GFGB AGED...
Anyway, I am getting married on Thursday, and after our honeymoon, my wife and I will be driving up (from Oklahoma) to Wisconsin, where I'm from, for the summer. After that we'll be going to California, where I'll be attending UC Santa Barbara for my MA and PhD in Ethnomusicology.
The purpose of this discussion is twofold. (bad idea? hopefully not) One, to say hello to the Santa Barbara folks on this board. And two, in the last year I acquired about three shelves worth of vinyl records (a few hundred perhaps) for free. I now have to drive a couple thousand miles without these melting from the sun or being otherwise damaged. Any suggestions on keeping my records safe? (Or about Santa Barbara?)
Thanks everyone!
# Posted on May 13th 2008 by jasonb
Re: I'm off to California with records in tow...
Switch on your air conditioning and carry a concealed weapon -
don't worry - the constitution guarantees your right to bear arms.
Oh, yeah stay out of Irish neighborhoods after dark lest they go
after your 'stash'
# Posted on May 13th 2008 by Hup
Re: I'm off to California with records in tow...
bear arms? Make sure you have a hi factor sun block
# Posted on May 13th 2008 by llig leahcim
Re: I'm off to California with records in tow...
Don't need sunblock if you've got bear arms . The fur works as a UV filter.
As for your records, you need several eskies.
# Posted on May 13th 2008 by Bren
Re: I'm off to California with records in tow...
Just what the world of ITM needs - yet another ethnomusicologist! How in the world did we manage for hundreds of years without this species of academic
# Posted on May 13th 2008 by bullwall
Re: I'm off to California with records in tow...
Ugh, traveling in the heat with records could be somewhat problematic, but if you travel with them lying flat, you might do OK. A stack of records lying flat will generally not warp, except maybe the top few, because the weight of the vinyl will keep the lower ones flat, even if they get warm enough to soften.
You'll want to make sure that they're lying on a flat surface (a hardened board, or something sturdy like that), and then maybe another flat board, with some weight, on top. That way, even if they get warm enough to soften, they have no way of warping. And they would have to get really warm to melt enough to damage the grooves.
Congrats on your pending nuptials! (Who gets married on a Thursday?
)
# Posted on May 13th 2008 by Reverend
Re: I'm off to California with records in tow...
What's wrong with ethnomusicology, bullwall? I quite like the idea of studying, playing, and teaching the music I love for a living. I'm actually studying Indian music, not ITM, though. ITM warms my soul outside of school.
As for the Thursday wedding, that was what it took to be able to get the minister we wanted within a week of graduation, so that my parents could come down to Oklahoma for both graduation and the wedding.
Thanks for the record suggestions. Keep 'em coming!
# Posted on May 13th 2008 by jasonb
Re: I'm off to California with records in tow...
And thanks for the congrats!
# Posted on May 13th 2008 by jasonb
Re: I'm off to California with records in tow...
Last summer I had all my records (and everything else) packed by movers and shipped a long way through some of the warmer parts of the US. I watched them pack the records and what I saw was that they boxed them really tight so they couldn't move at all. They arrived ok.
You don't say where you're going to put them: u-haul, trunk, back seat. In trunks on long drives the area over the wheel wells tends to be the hottest. I don't suppose a u-haul would get hotter than a moving van trailer. Back seat would have them in the sun and you would probably want to carry them inside every night. Good Luck.
# Posted on May 13th 2008 by edl
Re: I'm off to California with records in tow...
Yeah, a tight box can be an OK way to do it. But be careful, I've had records warp over time because of the slightly curved corners of the cardboard boxes. You would probably be OK with them that way for a few days of moving.
# Posted on May 13th 2008 by Reverend
Re: I'm off to California with records in tow...
"Everybody's out having fun, in the warm California sun..."
Everyone, that is, except the vinyl records. The California sun has a special heat. An intense heat. A hot heat.
The Donner Party, their wagons laden with pemmican and vinyl records, thought a winter passage through the High Sierra was worth risking simply to avoid that kind of hot. Many of them died and were eaten. The vinyl was okay.
Do you have to travel in summer?
# Posted on May 13th 2008 by NEW Pure Drop® Ear Canal Oil
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And congrats. Top of the heap of life's riches? Marriage, parenthood, that stuff.
# Posted on May 13th 2008 by NEW Pure Drop® Ear Canal Oil
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Jason is going to UC Santa Barbara- it is very nice up there; there are sessions, but if I were him, I learn to surf. Great waves out
# Posted on May 14th 2008 by I_Fel
Re: I'm off to California with records in tow...
"in the last year I acquired about three shelves worth of vinyl records (a few hundred perhaps) for free."
~ lucky you. Are these all Irish?
Flat, lots and lots of cardboart cut to size, maybe in no more than 10 or 12 to a lot, but packed tight... That doesn't necessarily solve the problem. Vinyl was cut off of rolls, it has a memory and that memory is 'curved', or so I've been told, and that is why heat will make them warp. However, having them flat, with some compression, in a box and the weight of each other, should probably help prevent this to some extent. Have them in manageable sizes and weights, you don't want to be trying to move a lot at any one go. Better many small packages than several ungainly and heavy ones.
Congratulations on all counts. I've only heard good things about the program at Santa Barbara... If you'd chosen Newfoundland instead the cost of living would be lower, the general setting more interesting, IMO, and it would be generally cooler... The same would be true of Queens in Belfast...
# Posted on May 14th 2008 by ceolachan
Any insulation, cardboard included, and such as sleeping bags beneath, around and on top, also insulates to some extent both ways, including keeping heat out, to a point...
# Posted on May 14th 2008 by ceolachan
Re: I'm off to California with records in tow...
I'd give a call to someone who does this professionally...in Oz I'd call the National Film and Sound Archives....and find the professional nerd who wrote a thesis and as a living ensures that the vinyl being stored on behalf of the nation is preserved properly. There will be similar good natured, helpful and wonderful nerds in the US.
A good nerd is invaluable. I once managed, whilst taking the rent monies of public housing tenants who were suffering a flea infestation from surrounding fields of long grass, to track down a grad student who had written his masters on fleas....and was able to inform thousands of tenants that rather than emptying their washing machine waste water into the sewers......they empty it in to buckets and pour it over the grass in their yards. Because dried soap suds impeded the life cycle of the flea....and was one of the few ways to stop it breeding! Two weeks later the infestation was ended....and both nerd and me were feeling very good about ourselves!
# Posted on May 14th 2008 by TheCurvyFiddle