hi Morgana. tried to find paistin in my dictionary but think it may be just páiste as in child and fionn being bright or clear.
paistin would sound like paw steen and fionn would be fee onn but would be pronounced quickly ie feeonn with the emphasis on the second syllable.
sure now you have the cúpla focal gaeilge as well!!
Chris.
Paiste is child. The suffix 'in' is a common dimunitive. As in potin, colleen and any number of other groovy things. The title of the tune means the fair-headed child.
A brief tangential obsevation: 'Pais' is the Classical Greek word for 'child' or 'boy', giving rise, in its adjoining form, to such words as 'paediatrician'.
cf. also Latvian 'puisis', Estonian 'poiss' = 'boy'
...and 'boy', come to think of it.
The Celtic languages and Classical Greek (among others) have a common ancestor in primitive Indo-European (which some scientists have reconstructed, apparently), so it's not surprising that many common words have striking similarities over many languages - another one is Classical Greek "thugater" = English "daughter". Rules have been worked out showing how sounds change as they go from one language to another.
Trevor
Need help with pronouciation please...
Need help with pronouciation please...
Hi All
I am currently learning the lovely tune "An Paistin Fionn" but I have no idea how to pronouce it.
All help muchly appreciated
Regards
Morgana
(a.k.a. Ptollemy)
# Posted on May 23rd 2003 by Ptollemy
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that's rich coming from someone with the moniker of Ptollemy!
# Posted on May 23rd 2003 by biggus dave
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Moniker? Didn't she used to play in a session with Bill Clinton.
Good embouchure, I'm told.
# Posted on May 24th 2003 by Key Maniac Lad
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They tol'me there'd be days like this.
# Posted on May 24th 2003 by Gra5ity
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LOL -- you lads, as Bridie once said, are hysterical...
# Posted on May 24th 2003 by Zina Lee
And is anybody going to tell Ptollemy how to say "An Paistin Fionn"?
# Posted on May 24th 2003 by Zina Lee
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hi Morgana. tried to find paistin in my dictionary but think it may be just páiste as in child and fionn being bright or clear.
paistin would sound like paw steen and fionn would be fee onn but would be pronounced quickly ie feeonn with the emphasis on the second syllable.
sure now you have the cúpla focal gaeilge as well!!
Chris.
# Posted on May 24th 2003 by deputy_dd
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Thanks Chris, muchly appreciated!
Regards
Morgana
# Posted on May 24th 2003 by Ptollemy
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I thought it might be Un Paws-cheen Finn, but how would I know?
# Posted on May 24th 2003 by Key Maniac Lad
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'specially with a name like "Domhniaill Mac Aoidh"
# Posted on May 24th 2003 by Dow
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Paiste is child. The suffix 'in' is a common dimunitive. As in potin, colleen and any number of other groovy things. The title of the tune means the fair-headed child.
# Posted on May 25th 2003 by sergeant fox
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Want to chime in with another pronunciation, Paul?
# Posted on May 25th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: Need help with pronouciation please...
A brief tangential obsevation: 'Pais' is the Classical Greek word for 'child' or 'boy', giving rise, in its adjoining form, to such words as 'paediatrician'.
cf. also Latvian 'puisis', Estonian 'poiss' = 'boy'
...and 'boy', come to think of it.
# Posted on May 26th 2003 by ragaman
Re: Need help with pronouciation please...
The Celtic languages and Classical Greek (among others) have a common ancestor in primitive Indo-European (which some scientists have reconstructed, apparently), so it's not surprising that many common words have striking similarities over many languages - another one is Classical Greek "thugater" = English "daughter". Rules have been worked out showing how sounds change as they go from one language to another.
Trevor
# Posted on May 26th 2003 by lazyhound