I would like to use this disscussion page
to ask for advice to all members of the session.
I have played Irish fiddle along time now and
still do localy,And I would like to ask you for advice,I'am interested in put some tunes mostly
for learners on the internet some common starters
but more tunes easy but rarer,I am also on Youtube
and would like to run direct Links From the tunes
I put on youtube to the abc I would put on the session,and vicea versa
1/ My first problem is, is that ok to do,
2/ My other problems are learners would like just to hear the tune Straight,,And I never play a tune
the same way Twice, even on the same day lol,,
I should put in the ABC Text as correct as I can
and then go and put a very straight(Similar to that ABC,} version on video-
Me playing the tune on youtube,Also I would really need to tighten up my abc,for this..see
ceolachan if you dont belive me.
If any other members wish to do the same thats ok
by me.
I just think it would be great for learners and
not so learners alike,to have a Sight and Sound
approach to learning a tune,,ie the session,abc
and score,{sight players} plus youtube for the sound of the tune.=(ear players}
What do you all think of this Idea..
Yours, Jim McAuley.
To your first question, there's no problem putting a link to a YouTube recording in the comments for a tune. You won't be able to embed the video but just cut'n'paste the YouTube URL into the comment submission form on the corresponding tune on The Session.
I don't see why you couldn't do the reverse as well: copy'n'paste a link from The Session (the URL of the tune) into the comment form on a YouTube video.
1. Seems like a very good idea - providing links videos of someone experienced playing the tune.
2. As for not playing the tune the same way twice - a lot of good players seem to do this. It would just make the video fairly dull if you attempted to play the tune really straight there. It's better to play the video on youtube as you normally would. If you want to the ABC tightened up, you can post it as a comment in the tune. Or let ceolachlan do it.
Unfortunately, chords are often a matter of taste and there's many varying possibilities. it's probably better to allow people to work out their own accompaniment.
You will get suggestions for chords in many music books but these are usually very basic and, in many cases, wrong.
Thank for all of this feedback- All has been noted,,
To Jerremy- the reverse..ie/ copy'n'paste a link from The Session.
Will happen,, I will maybe use some links to other members more sound ABC's
if that is ok , at the presant time , mines suspect to say the least.
To Fishmonger- I played Guitar to many reels and jigs before I took up the
fiddle, But I have never wrote them out in dots or abc before.. But I will try
to make a video of me playing guitar too , or someone ie/ a guitar player
with me,,In the tunes later.
To Harry- I have 30 years experiance playing fiddle ,irish music -fleadhs,sessions,
all round Ireland and some in scotland ,, hope that will be enough,,
Plus I will only link the session abc's to youtube videos I do myseslf
I think thats important,,
Thanks again for ALL comments,
your's Jim McAuley.
Funny you should say this -- I was checking out your YouTube videos last night and learned a lot from listening to one of them (over and over) -- I love that you don't play it the same way twice (and this is coming from a newcomer to ITM), as I think that's been the hardest thing for me (besides bowing and everything else - LOL) is to think of variations, so your ideas and variations were very eye opening for me. Thanks and hope you go for it!
Great idea, and very generous and brave of you. I look forward to seeing it develop. This is the kind of 'sharing' I love to see and hear...
Jim, don't forget you can also use your 'Details' as a center of operations, so if someone likes one they find here or on U-Tube, they can have the option of finding more links by going to your 'Details' ~links to U-Tube & the ABCs...
The connection remains open. If you'd rather do the U-Tube first and then have someone do a bare bones transcription to ABCs for adding to the 'Comments' here, I'm willing and would try to do my best, as time allows. Or you can send both this way, sound and your ABC transcription, and I check it for you.
I know I'd benefit from seeing and hearing you play, but maybe you should do it as some crazies do and just film the instrument and hands... I remember a mandolin player that we used to do the occassional gig with who used to chew his tongue as he played, and half of it was outside wiggling about. Another friend, blind, used to make faces when she played the fiddle...and sometimes that included her tongue coming out like a worm out of an apple...
No, Jim isn't revolting to look at and as far as I know doesn't chew his tongue or make faces when he plays!
ceolachan
Thanks and from now on I'll take your
advice ie/ just show lift hand and bow hand etc..
In my younger I might have looked like Clarke
Gable - But not any more,,lol.
This is now the next videos will be ..
jim,,,
drone
I'll make up an abc and send straight to- ceolachan.
He'll likely tear it up , and make another one,,But,
at least that one will be Right..
jim,,,
I really like this idea...I love being able to hear tunes by real players...midi just doesn't cut it. One thing that my flute teacher does for me right now, is to record the tune one time slowly and with minimal or no ornamentation and then again (or multiple times) at a more "normal speed" with her ornaments, which vary each time.
Look forward to seeing this develope
That was my thought too Amy, a good suggestion... My ideal would be as Amy's example, maybe approximately half speed, no ornaments if you can hold back from it, just bow work, and then two or three times through set free and as you like it. I'd go for three times (4 total), but I'm generally greedy, and I enjoy Jim's playing, as long as the reflection off his glasses and head don't distract me... The cat isn't the problem...
Just an idea, , how about actually breaking the tune up into phrases as well ? That way folk can practice learning by ear.......
Is the C tune related to the Bucks by any chance? I was playing along and it struck me as familiar. ..
Jim, your reel in C sounds (Shane McAleer's) like Charlie Lennon's No. 4 to me, with the second half taken low instead of higher. Normally played in D: http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/2115
Wow, thanks! Nice playing, Jim, and a real service to the community.
Now, if you happen to get carried away sometime and shoot your mouth off on the Mustard Board (what... here?? *snicker*) about some detail of Irish trad fiddling, I will know that you really know what you're talking about.
Hi Jim, that C reel sounds like the Blacksmiths reel to me http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/3636
I love the cat in the other video as well,like my own cats, they love to get in on the action!
great idea linking tunes from youtube, and thanks for subscribing to my own youtube videos .
Will CPT
The reel of shanes-in C magor, has a little Phrase
like it but charlie lennons No- 4 has always been
one of my fav,,tunes ,
Thanks for this I think I'll put that on next on video..
jim,,
cathy cook
I am of dout that this BlACKSMITHS REEL,,You
you have here , is the same tune =first version
Thanks for its name,,The two young cubs{Shane
McAleer and his big brother }must have learnt it and put it down into C major for that Effect,,Well done cath,, {changing video to that name right now}THANKS.
jim,,,
A tip for YouTube videos: If you have a slow connection, or an underpowered computer, pause the video until the clip is fully downloaded (i.e., the faint red line moves all way to the right).
You will get better quality video that way--with smoother, more detailed motion--for better "monkey see, monkey do."
mickray
Thanks for this imfo on youtube videos I did not know
this ,, Will do this,,
jig
I might as well tell- Charlie Lennon is my favorite
Irish traditonal Composer,,
I just learnt his jig - The Handsome Young Maidens
the other week- His is great stuff,,
jim,,,
No problem, Jim, although that tip was really aimed at other "battlers" (you know, "improvers" like me) who are looking for details on how to play this stuff properly.
You already know how, and get it "Live and In Person"! ;>}
Ha, thats one of his two jigs I play, and the Smiling Bride.
Cracking tune that young maiden. I play the third bar;
| b /e/ee d/e/ee |
so ...the 'e's are triplets.
I'm new to ABC too, so, not sure I got that right.....
jig
I am not completey new an abc ,just not very good at it
but I'am going to have to re-learn fast if I want to keep
this up- IE/ videos etc,,
But on charlie lennon my next tune of his i'll learn
will be- The Lietrim Lilter , reel ,,?
jim,,,,
jig,,
Very good keep up the good work,,
The jig you call the spy - I was told its a Austrailian
composition,, By an ozy tin whistle player girl who was sightseeing the Glens of Antrim,she told me this
In our local session just outside larne,,
She said = Jump At The Sun,,was the right name.
jim
Thanks C, I was hoping you might jump in there and set me straight I knew it was something to do with forward slash....
Jump at the sun it is... but I prefer the spy jig as a name
Hey Jim, I love your idea. I'm a beginning fiddler, and I turn to YouTube a lot for tunes. I can't keep up with most of them, but if you were to post some videos for beginners that would be fantastic.
I just checked out some of your videos. Very nice job. Nice to see The Salamanca. That tune is one I'll be learning in my Irish session class.
Keep up the good work and thanks for the contributions!!
Jim, I've been taking notes, I'll send you an email soon...
Well ~ maybe some of that can just be said here out in the open. First, I love good examples, and this is one, one way of doing it right and well and with consideration and thought, brother Ryan, God bless him ~
It's whistle, but good presentation and teaching is something universal, like zen buddhism (no caps is being 'zen')...
Good examples are for 'ideas', and you take what you like best, if you find something that agrees with your intention. Some like it all spoon fed to them, but you don't have to take it that way. You could choose an introductory group of tunes to more thoroughly teach, such as someone suggested, and a way I definitely endorse, breaking it down by bars and phrases.
That method is heaven sent, as it reinforces the integral rhythms and flows of the music, the tradition. So, say a polka, you teach the first bar, give it exercise, then you teach the second, give it exercise, then you join them both up together and practice. Next you start the second 2-bar phrase and give it similar treatment, then you've to join them up as the longer 4-bar phrase and you give that exercise. Then you tackle the second half of the A-part, and so on and so forth... But, you can choose not to do that, or, and it would be most welcome, you could choose to do that more complete approach with say half a dozen tunes. The rest you could do just as previously suggested, once through nice and slowly and straight and with little adornment. Then off you go for two or three times through the tune as you like to, but ~ still at a nice decent relaxed tempo. After all, your in the beautiful county of Down...
County Antrim, sorry, I slipped there. The beautiful County Antrim, the glens, ahhh, the shore, lovely, and that bread I once had there, the little black one as dense as a brick and so enriching... I'm still wanting that recipe, longing for it ~ was it called 'Dalriada', 'Daligerry', something crazy with a 'D' to start it...
Back on topic, as that was in my notes too, and in part the insanity of the skip, from mistake to correction ~
COUNTY ANTRIM!!! ~ Dear lad, please, represent where you are from, that lovely land of people, countryside, music, dance, song and tradition...
If I could squeeze that out of you, that is the essence I would most like to see you represent in this valiant effort of yours ~ to do your roots specific justice, since most of your hair roots have abandoned you... Be an ambassador for Antrim.
How can you do this? Well, in a sense you are, so I'm just casting more light on it. Includes some vids of your local sessions, or of house music, maybe even a little dance. Get outside and do some playing of these tunes, so we can also appreciate the beauty about you, when it's not pi*sin' rain or pelting donw hale stones.
You have one of your own tunes on there, so add some local tunes, and maybe even some vids of the living characters about you, some of your musical associates and even fellow composers. Be Antrim, not Dublin or Planxty or anything commercial, not that you are, you aren't, but keep it simple, keep it local. Who knows, you might even end up securing work with the Northern Ireland Tourist Board, and you wouldn't be the first from our ranks either...
So, now I can scrunch up the notes I've been making since you first Eired this generosity...
Oh yes, you said you were teaching locally, it might be nice to have a couple of videos of you doing just that, your classes?!
Sorry, it's the greed taking control again... I need to eat some garlic and say a few Hail Marys...
But I'll go check it out right after this, My teaching
I'am sorry to say is in the pub before the session
and then In maybe a sneeky way through out it
ie/ by putting in tunes ,so I can get of hear certain
players working on there stuff,, Maybe if ''Her
indoors'' lol .Lets me I'll start inviteing some to my house through the week ,,But is only local musicians
Not in a big way,,The internet might be now the thing
for that,,,It dose much more silly stuff on its web
pages,,, Why not try to learn young musicians and
old alike ,,some Irish Traditional Tunes...Jim,,,
Members advice on this matter-please..
Members advice on this matter-please..
I would like to use this disscussion page
to ask for advice to all members of the session.
I have played Irish fiddle along time now and
still do localy,And I would like to ask you for advice,I'am interested in put some tunes mostly
for learners on the internet some common starters
but more tunes easy but rarer,I am also on Youtube
and would like to run direct Links From the tunes
I put on youtube to the abc I would put on the session,and vicea versa
1/ My first problem is, is that ok to do,
2/ My other problems are learners would like just to hear the tune Straight,,And I never play a tune
the same way Twice, even on the same day lol,,
I should put in the ABC Text as correct as I can
and then go and put a very straight(Similar to that ABC,} version on video-
Me playing the tune on youtube,Also I would really need to tighten up my abc,for this..see
ceolachan if you dont belive me.
If any other members wish to do the same thats ok
by me.
I just think it would be great for learners and
not so learners alike,to have a Sight and Sound
approach to learning a tune,,ie the session,abc
and score,{sight players} plus youtube for the sound of the tune.=(ear players}
What do you all think of this Idea..
Yours, Jim McAuley.
fiddle4 - the session.
fiddle4u - youtube.
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by FIDDLE4
Re: Members advice on this matter-please..
To your first question, there's no problem putting a link to a YouTube recording in the comments for a tune. You won't be able to embed the video but just cut'n'paste the YouTube URL into the comment submission form on the corresponding tune on The Session.
I don't see why you couldn't do the reverse as well: copy'n'paste a link from The Session (the URL of the tune) into the comment form on a YouTube video.
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by Jeremy
Re: Members advice on this matter-please..
As many others have requested before and after me, we'd also like to see the chords on the sheet music.
Thanks
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by Fishmonger
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1. Seems like a very good idea - providing links videos of someone experienced playing the tune.
2. As for not playing the tune the same way twice - a lot of good players seem to do this. It would just make the video fairly dull if you attempted to play the tune really straight there. It's better to play the video on youtube as you normally would. If you want to the ABC tightened up, you can post it as a comment in the tune. Or let ceolachlan do it.
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by harry
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Fishmonger,
Unfortunately, chords are often a matter of taste and there's many varying possibilities. it's probably better to allow people to work out their own accompaniment.
You will get suggestions for chords in many music books but these are usually very basic and, in many cases, wrong.
I'd rather things were left as they are.
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by Johannes J
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Thank for all of this feedback- All has been noted,,
To Jerremy- the reverse..ie/ copy'n'paste a link from The Session.
Will happen,, I will maybe use some links to other members more sound ABC's
if that is ok , at the presant time , mines suspect to say the least.
To Fishmonger- I played Guitar to many reels and jigs before I took up the
fiddle, But I have never wrote them out in dots or abc before.. But I will try
to make a video of me playing guitar too , or someone ie/ a guitar player
with me,,In the tunes later.
To Harry- I have 30 years experiance playing fiddle ,irish music -fleadhs,sessions,
all round Ireland and some in scotland ,, hope that will be enough,,
Plus I will only link the session abc's to youtube videos I do myseslf
I think thats important,,
Thanks again for ALL comments,
your's Jim McAuley.
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by FIDDLE4
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Funny you should say this -- I was checking out your YouTube videos last night and learned a lot from listening to one of them (over and over) -- I love that you don't play it the same way twice (and this is coming from a newcomer to ITM), as I think that's been the hardest thing for me (besides bowing and everything else - LOL) is to think of variations, so your ideas and variations were very eye opening for me. Thanks and hope you go for it!
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by swillybay
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& ABCs aside ~ he ain't half bad either...
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by ceolachan
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http://uk.youtube.com/fiddle4u
just keeping it live
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by jig
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I've done that, posted thesession.org url for a tune in a You Tube comments page.
Yeah, fantastic playing fiddle4u, lovely stuff!
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by SWFL Fiddler
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Great idea, and very generous and brave of you. I look forward to seeing it develop. This is the kind of 'sharing' I love to see and hear...
Jim, don't forget you can also use your 'Details' as a center of operations, so if someone likes one they find here or on U-Tube, they can have the option of finding more links by going to your 'Details' ~links to U-Tube & the ABCs...
The connection remains open. If you'd rather do the U-Tube first and then have someone do a bare bones transcription to ABCs for adding to the 'Comments' here, I'm willing and would try to do my best, as time allows. Or you can send both this way, sound and your ABC transcription, and I check it for you.
I know I'd benefit from seeing and hearing you play, but maybe you should do it as some crazies do and just film the instrument and hands... I remember a mandolin player that we used to do the occassional gig with who used to chew his tongue as he played, and half of it was outside wiggling about. Another friend, blind, used to make faces when she played the fiddle...and sometimes that included her tongue coming out like a worm out of an apple...
No, Jim isn't revolting to look at and as far as I know doesn't chew his tongue or make faces when he plays!
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by ceolachan
Re: Members advice on this matter-please..
More ~ "The Rakes of Kildare"
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XDToIVSx5cQ
I like the cat!
Nice Jim, but you do sometimes look a bit scary...
I'm laughing!
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by ceolachan
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http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/84/comments
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by ceolachan
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The reflecting glasses add a touch of 'The Terminator' to you...
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by ceolachan
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Here's one tune Jim swings really nicely...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=w1OMjttWgfQ
So, can anybody give us the real name of it, and connect us to the dots?
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by drone
Re: Members advice on this matter-please..
ceolachan
Thanks and from now on I'll take your
advice ie/ just show lift hand and bow hand etc..
In my younger I might have looked like Clarke
Gable - But not any more,,lol.
This is now the next videos will be ..
jim,,,
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by FIDDLE4
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drone
I'll make up an abc and send straight to- ceolachan.
He'll likely tear it up , and make another one,,But,
at least that one will be Right..
jim,,,
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by FIDDLE4
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Cheers, and keep 'em coming.
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by drone
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I really like this idea...I love being able to hear tunes by real players...midi just doesn't cut it. One thing that my flute teacher does for me right now, is to record the tune one time slowly and with minimal or no ornamentation and then again (or multiple times) at a more "normal speed" with her ornaments, which vary each time.
Look forward to seeing this develope
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by Amy J
Re: Members advice on this matter-please..
Me too in fact I am learning this tune on the mandolin at the moment .
I agree the cat is cool
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by bazouki dave and the real tooty flutey
Re: Members advice on this matter-please..
I agree,, one time slowly and twice with minimal or no ornamentation at a normal speed,, Will be from now on.
Thankyou for this
jim,,,
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by FIDDLE4
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Thanks, Amy J for the suggestion and thanks Fiddle4 for taking it. Perfect for us beginners! Looking so forward to it!
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by swillybay
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That was my thought too Amy, a good suggestion... My ideal would be as Amy's example, maybe approximately half speed, no ornaments if you can hold back from it, just bow work, and then two or three times through set free and as you like it. I'd go for three times (4 total), but I'm generally greedy, and I enjoy Jim's playing, as long as the reflection off his glasses and head don't distract me... The cat isn't the problem...
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by ceolachan
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And yes there Multi focals,, lol
jim,,,
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by FIDDLE4
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Just an idea, , how about actually breaking the tune up into phrases as well ? That way folk can practice learning by ear.......
Is the C tune related to the Bucks by any chance? I was playing along and it struck me as familiar. ..
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by jig
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Jim, your reel in C sounds (Shane McAleer's) like Charlie Lennon's No. 4 to me, with the second half taken low instead of higher. Normally played in D: http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/2115
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by Will CPT
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I just realised its an ABC ( Alien Big Cat ) I better ring the Fortean Times ...........................................................
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by bazouki dave and the real tooty flutey
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Wow, thanks! Nice playing, Jim, and a real service to the community.
Now, if you happen to get carried away sometime and shoot your mouth off on the Mustard Board (what... here?? *snicker*) about some detail of Irish trad fiddling, I will know that you really know what you're talking about.
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by mickray
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Jim has lead a few sessions in my loungeroom in Central Australia and they have been great fun. Thank you FIDDLE4, I really appreciate it.
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by Clear Drops
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Hi Jim, that C reel sounds like the Blacksmiths reel to me http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/3636
I love the cat in the other video as well,like my own cats, they love to get in on the action!
great idea linking tunes from youtube, and thanks for subscribing to my own youtube videos .
# Posted on February 7th 2008 by cathycook
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jig
Not related to The bucks as far as I know,,The reel
Last nights fun - reminds me more on that sort of thing.
But who knows,,
jim
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by FIDDLE4
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Will CPT
The reel of shanes-in C magor, has a little Phrase
like it but charlie lennons No- 4 has always been
one of my fav,,tunes ,
Thanks for this I think I'll put that on next on video..
jim,,
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by FIDDLE4
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cathy cook
I am of dout that this BlACKSMITHS REEL,,You
you have here , is the same tune =first version
Thanks for its name,,The two young cubs{Shane
McAleer and his big brother }must have learnt it and put it down into C major for that Effect,,Well done cath,, {changing video to that name right now}THANKS.
jim,,,
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by FIDDLE4
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I Like No4 too, I also play pedalling patterns, weaving dreams, I used to play the road to Cashel and a couple of his jigs too,
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by jig
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A tip for YouTube videos: If you have a slow connection, or an underpowered computer, pause the video until the clip is fully downloaded (i.e., the faint red line moves all way to the right).
You will get better quality video that way--with smoother, more detailed motion--for better "monkey see, monkey do."
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by mickray
Re: Members advice on this matter-please..
mickray
Thanks for this imfo on youtube videos I did not know
this ,, Will do this,,
jig
I might as well tell- Charlie Lennon is my favorite
Irish traditonal Composer,,
I just learnt his jig - The Handsome Young Maidens
the other week- His is great stuff,,
jim,,,
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by FIDDLE4
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No problem, Jim, although that tip was really aimed at other "battlers" (you know, "improvers" like me) who are looking for details on how to play this stuff properly.
You already know how, and get it "Live and In Person"! ;>}
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by mickray
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P.S. You upload them to YouTube as usual. That hitting Pause is a way to see them better.
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by mickray
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Ha, thats one of his two jigs I play, and the Smiling Bride.
Cracking tune that young maiden. I play the third bar;
| b /e/ee d/e/ee |
so ...the 'e's are triplets.
I'm new to ABC too, so, not sure I got that right.....
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by jig
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jig
I am not completey new an abc ,just not very good at it
but I'am going to have to re-learn fast if I want to keep
this up- IE/ videos etc,,
But on charlie lennon my next tune of his i'll learn
will be- The Lietrim Lilter , reel ,,?
jim,,,,
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by FIDDLE4
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I am
about two weeks.... three tunes submitted....
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by jig
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~ | be/e/e de/e/e | ~ ?
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by ceolachan
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jig,,
Very good keep up the good work,,
The jig you call the spy - I was told its a Austrailian
composition,, By an ozy tin whistle player girl who was sightseeing the Glens of Antrim,she told me this
In our local session just outside larne,,
She said = Jump At The Sun,,was the right name.
jim
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by FIDDLE4
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Get a soak and some shut-eye, you guys need your beauty sleep. It's too late for me, I'm already ugly beyond repair...
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by ceolachan
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Thanks C, I was hoping you might jump in there and set me straight
I knew it was something to do with forward slash....
Jump at the sun it is... but I prefer the spy jig as a name
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by jig
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Hey Jim, I love your idea. I'm a beginning fiddler, and I turn to YouTube a lot for tunes. I can't keep up with most of them, but if you were to post some videos for beginners that would be fantastic.
I just checked out some of your videos. Very nice job. Nice to see The Salamanca. That tune is one I'll be learning in my Irish session class.
Keep up the good work and thanks for the contributions!!
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by macnasparade
Re: Members advice on this matter-please..
Jim, I've been taking notes, I'll send you an email soon...
~ maybe some of that can just be said here out in the open. First, I love good examples, and this is one, one way of doing it right and well and with consideration and thought, brother Ryan, God bless him ~
Well
U-Tube: Ryan Duns whistle lessons
http://www.youtube.com/user/RyanDunsSJ
It's whistle, but good presentation and teaching is something universal, like zen buddhism (no caps is being 'zen')...
Good examples are for 'ideas', and you take what you like best, if you find something that agrees with your intention. Some like it all spoon fed to them, but you don't have to take it that way. You could choose an introductory group of tunes to more thoroughly teach, such as someone suggested, and a way I definitely endorse, breaking it down by bars and phrases.
That method is heaven sent, as it reinforces the integral rhythms and flows of the music, the tradition. So, say a polka, you teach the first bar, give it exercise, then you teach the second, give it exercise, then you join them both up together and practice. Next you start the second 2-bar phrase and give it similar treatment, then you've to join them up as the longer 4-bar phrase and you give that exercise. Then you tackle the second half of the A-part, and so on and so forth... But, you can choose not to do that, or, and it would be most welcome, you could choose to do that more complete approach with say half a dozen tunes. The rest you could do just as previously suggested, once through nice and slowly and straight and with little adornment. Then off you go for two or three times through the tune as you like to, but ~ still at a nice decent relaxed tempo. After all, your in the beautiful county of Down...
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by ceolachan
County Antrim
County Antrim, sorry, I slipped there. The beautiful County Antrim, the glens, ahhh, the shore, lovely, and that bread I once had there, the little black one as dense as a brick and so enriching... I'm still wanting that recipe, longing for it ~ was it called 'Dalriada', 'Daligerry', something crazy with a 'D' to start it...
Back on topic, as that was in my notes too, and in part the insanity of the skip, from mistake to correction ~
COUNTY ANTRIM!!! ~ Dear lad, please, represent where you are from, that lovely land of people, countryside, music, dance, song and tradition...
If I could squeeze that out of you, that is the essence I would most like to see you represent in this valiant effort of yours ~ to do your roots specific justice, since most of your hair roots have abandoned you... Be an ambassador for Antrim.
How can you do this? Well, in a sense you are, so I'm just casting more light on it. Includes some vids of your local sessions, or of house music, maybe even a little dance. Get outside and do some playing of these tunes, so we can also appreciate the beauty about you, when it's not pi*sin' rain or pelting donw hale stones.
You have one of your own tunes on there, so add some local tunes, and maybe even some vids of the living characters about you, some of your musical associates and even fellow composers. Be Antrim, not Dublin or Planxty or anything commercial, not that you are, you aren't, but keep it simple, keep it local. Who knows, you might even end up securing work with the Northern Ireland Tourist Board, and you wouldn't be the first from our ranks either...
So, now I can scrunch up the notes I've been making since you first Eired this generosity...
Oh yes, you said you were teaching locally, it might be nice to have a couple of videos of you doing just that, your classes?!
Sorry, it's the greed taking control again... I need to eat some garlic and say a few Hail Marys...
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by ceolachan
Re: Members advice on this matter-please..
Discussion: More advice needed On my last video
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by FIDDLE4
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/16655
Keeping the connection!
# Posted on February 8th 2008 by ceolachan
Re: Members advice on this matter-please..
ceolachan
I thought this discussion post had ended Thank
god I went back to it sort of baffled by this=
U-Tube: Ryan Duns whistle lessons
http://www.youtube.com/user/RyanDunsSJ
But I'll go check it out right after this, My teaching
I'am sorry to say is in the pub before the session
and then In maybe a sneeky way through out it
ie/ by putting in tunes ,so I can get of hear certain
players working on there stuff,, Maybe if ''Her
indoors'' lol .Lets me I'll start inviteing some to my house through the week ,,But is only local musicians
Not in a big way,,The internet might be now the thing
for that,,,It dose much more silly stuff on its web
pages,,, Why not try to learn young musicians and
old alike ,,some Irish Traditional Tunes...Jim,,,
# Posted on February 9th 2008 by FIDDLE4