DANGER WILL ROBINSON! DANGER! DANGER! CLUELESS PRATS THRASHING OUT ANYTHING EXCEPT TRADITIONAL IRISH MUSIC BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO CONNECTION TO TRADITION AND DON'T REALLY RESPECT IT ENOUGH TO BOTHER WITH LEARNING IT!!!!!!!!!!
It might just be a suggestion that these are the places where eighty-year-old grandmothers can meet gigolos, married women run off with tennis professionals, decent authors descend into profanities or great romancers drop by just to catch a glimpse of stocking.
Dark, mysterious strangers linger in darkened corner booths, nodding meaningfully at the woman in a trench coat and scarlet lipstick, who pauses as she enters the room..........
Perhaps a little off topic, but there are worse places for it ...
Last Tuesday we turned up for our 8.30 session to find that the Naval Volunteer was closed. Shock! dismay!, then we realised that the pub was being used by "Casualty" to film a Christmas party episode (for non-British readers, "Casualty" is a popular British TV hospital soap).
Anyway, filming finished a few minutes later, the cast wandered off to the green room in the Bristol Old Vic Theatre opposite, and the crew derigged the set in an efficient 30 minutes. So we were able to start the session not too late in the Naval Volunteer pub that now gave no trace of the use it had just been put to.
About an hour later some of the cast came in for a drink, and to listen to us. One of them, an absolutely stunning young woman, told us, in a RADA-honed voice, how she absolutely adored Irish music. It was then that our session leader told her good-naturedly that it was an English session and that we were in fact playing morris tunes. Ahem! Anyway, they all took it in good part and stayed on for quite a while to listen to some more, which was when we did play them a couple of sets of Irish tunes.
'A Void' is a wonderful translation of Georges Perec's novel 'La Disparition' (whose entire text lacked the letter 'e'). His translator somehow managed to complete the English version without the letter 'a', hence the title.
Ever hear of Liam Anything? Really popular session fiddler. If he shows up to your session and you want to make sure other players of his calibre come, publicise your session on this site, and be sure to mention that. . .
~ Curiosity would get the better of me and I'd want to check it out, from a distance, with a full pint and a shot to medicate me for what might come.
#1.) Your offered links ~ "Mick Jagger Center" ~ is that real? & the contributor ~ 'OurFolkworks' (hmmmmm)
Originally started from a folk workshop ~ It is free for your first session, after that £3 to pay towards renting the room. No beer I'm afraid, but a vending machine does passable tea/coffee/hot chocolate/soup for breaktime! (soup for me!)
#2.) "It will be predominantly Irish music, but anything goes! There will also be a mix of tunes and songs, fast and slow."
Sorry, I think I have something already on those days... Sometimes it is good that such things are out of my reach... But, there is no shortage of things to chuckle about locally...
"We have a regular contingent of players who play a variety of things, guitars, singers, fiddles, various squeeze boxes, whistles, bodhrans, mandolins, bouzokis, harmonicas, egg shakers etc, etc....",
varous squeeze boxes sounds like various pitches for a start, but pleeeeease.... EGG SHAKERS ARE NOT MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS. If someone turns up at your session with one get the biggest, hairyest, local to inform the offenser that he hates eggs and will have one of his little turns if he hears one.
I quite enjoy the odd different session, but to me some things should never 'go' at a session..This is my top ten, what are your personal hates?
1. SHAKEY EGGS
2. JUMBO BODHRANS
3. TABLE HITTING WITH STICKS ETC
4. PLAYING HAND DRUMS WITH STICKS ETC
5. BUSKING THE TUNE
6. LACK OF ATTENTION TO TUNING
7. ROUND THE CIRCLE 'TURNS'
8. SMELLY FEET
9. TO MANY SMOKING BREAKS
10. BEEN PLAYING A COUPLE OF YEARS BUT NOW SELF PROCLAIMED EXPERT TYPES
Too right bogman - all of the above with the possible exception of smelly feet (but now that you mention it....) have come up here many times before as pet hates. As for shakey eggs I have myself told persons where to stick them.
Also needless to say, I don't think I'll make a pilgrimage to the Mick Jagger Centre, as I may well have some maths homework to do at that time, which sounds a lot more fun, but might have a look at the one in Woolwich, only because it's not too far away, but I don't hold out much hope for it as being a roaring trad session (call me a snob if you will....)
Anything goes: Well, if you try to be all things, you usually wind being none of them, really. I know a box player who told me she plays "all styles". I, alas, did not agree.
Top hates at Irish sessions, currently:
1. Really poorly played anything (get some help, learn the instrument, learn the tunes, then please DO come back), and, while we are at it, musicians who cannot tell the swing and rhythm of one tune or style from another who simply jump on in.
Selfish, I would say.
2. 5 string banjos (personal bias, I prefer plectrum tenor banjo, thank you, and I admit I should probably listen to more 5-stringers to form a fair opinion.
3. More than one or two bodhrans playing at once.
4. "Experts." (all species, genres, stripes, etc.)
5. Rudeness or presumptuousness of any kind, especially toward newcomers (assuming they have been made welcome to join in, natch).
6. Digereedoos.
7. Pop tunes/songs.
8. Too many mandolins.
And add to these pretty much everything else Bogman listed above ---
(especially SMELLY FEET, Good NIGHT!, what a NASTY thing that is!!)
"Anything goes" has to mean Croydon, where a sign on a market stall cheerfully proclaims:
"Give the Gift of Music this Christmas".
What are they selling?
You've guessed it- shakey eggs and didgeridoos.
Maybe anything goes means they'll play Irish, Scottish, English and Cape Breton or more. Maybe they'll do a few songs. Maybe they're ok with newbies starting a tune at a moderate pace. It might not be as dire as you are imagining.
Put it this way. I've endured sessions with some of the personnel and I think I prefer this young person's playing: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vOtKQJXqkiY
(As I say, call me a snob...)
who takes off their shoes in a session? i've personally never noticed any feet odour at most sessions i attended, at least nothing that made me remember it.. apart from that, i agree with the general gist of the thread; if anything goes, be nothing!
Anything goes.....
Anything goes.....
When you see a session listed here which says "anything goes" what is you r reaction?
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by Key Maniac Lad
Re: Anything goes.....
errr.......
you r, as in your.
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by Key Maniac Lad
Re: Anything goes.....
It makes me wonder if I should bring my tuba
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by Ginepro
Re: Anything goes.....
Clothing optional?
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by Batlady
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It means they are prepared to play English tunes.
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by Innocent Bystander
Re: Anything goes.....
DANGER WILL ROBINSON! DANGER! DANGER! CLUELESS PRATS THRASHING OUT ANYTHING EXCEPT TRADITIONAL IRISH MUSIC BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO CONNECTION TO TRADITION AND DON'T REALLY RESPECT IT ENOUGH TO BOTHER WITH LEARNING IT!!!!!!!!!!
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by Hanley
Re: Anything goes.....
Please give us an example or two, Danny.
It might just be a suggestion that these are the places where eighty-year-old grandmothers can meet gigolos, married women run off with tennis professionals, decent authors descend into profanities or great romancers drop by just to catch a glimpse of stocking.
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by Floss the Tethers
Re: Anything goes.....
must be a place without Guiness
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by bazouki dave and the real tooty flutey
Re: Anything goes.....
Dark, mysterious strangers linger in darkened corner booths, nodding meaningfully at the woman in a trench coat and scarlet lipstick, who pauses as she enters the room..........
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by Batlady
Re: Anything goes.....
Perhaps a little off topic, but there are worse places for it ...
Last Tuesday we turned up for our 8.30 session to find that the Naval Volunteer was closed. Shock! dismay!, then we realised that the pub was being used by "Casualty" to film a Christmas party episode (for non-British readers, "Casualty" is a popular British TV hospital soap).
Anyway, filming finished a few minutes later, the cast wandered off to the green room in the Bristol Old Vic Theatre opposite, and the crew derigged the set in an efficient 30 minutes. So we were able to start the session not too late in the Naval Volunteer pub that now gave no trace of the use it had just been put to.
About an hour later some of the cast came in for a drink, and to listen to us. One of them, an absolutely stunning young woman, told us, in a RADA-honed voice, how she absolutely adored Irish music. It was then that our session leader told her good-naturedly that it was an English session and that we were in fact playing morris tunes. Ahem! Anyway, they all took it in good part and stayed on for quite a while to listen to some more, which was when we did play them a couple of sets of Irish tunes.
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by lazyhound
Re: Anything goes.....
my answer is; Avoid
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by jig
Re: Anything goes.....
'A Void' is a wonderful translation of Georges Perec's novel 'La Disparition' (whose entire text lacked the letter 'e'). His translator somehow managed to complete the English version without the letter 'a', hence the title.
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by Floss the Tethers
Re: Anything goes.....
i'm thinking leather and whips
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by BegF
Re: Anything goes.....
BegF,
Please restrain your fantasies or, maybe, you've just got home and fancy a little bit of equestrian endeavour.
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by Floss the Tethers
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Opps wrong site....wrong sight too !
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by BegF
Re: Anything goes.....
The girls all put their instruments into the box and the men pull an instrument out and get practising with the owner.
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by geoffwright
Re: Anything goes.....
Ever hear of Liam Anything? Really popular session fiddler. If he shows up to your session and you want to make sure other players of his calibre come, publicise your session on this site, and be sure to mention that. . .
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by Ailin
Re: Anything goes.....
Hey, let's have some verification here, where did you see this?
But, my first reaction ~ fear and trepidation... I'd expect not to stay long, or to just move along to the next pub or village...
Hey Hanley, I like the "Lost in Space" connection...
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Anything goes.....
Here's two examples:
http://www.thesession.org/sessions/display/1808
http://www.thesession.org/sessions/display/1807
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by Key Maniac Lad
Re: Anything goes.....
Could mean someone steals all your plectrums.
Or it could be a "real" session, which was a nights craic, with a variety of entertainment.
Sounds good, because after a while all that diddly-dee sounds the same.
# Posted on December 7th 2007 by bodhran bliss
Re: Anything goes.....
#1.) Your offered links ~ "Mick Jagger Center" ~ is that real? & the contributor ~ 'OurFolkworks' (hmmmmm)
Originally started from a folk workshop ~ It is free for your first session, after that £3 to pay towards renting the room. No beer I'm afraid, but a vending machine does passable tea/coffee/hot chocolate/soup for breaktime! (soup for me!)
http://www.ourfolkworks.co.uk/
#2.) "It will be predominantly Irish music, but anything goes! There will also be a mix of tunes and songs, fast and slow."
Sorry, I think I have something already on those days... Sometimes it is good that such things are out of my reach... But, there is no shortage of things to chuckle about locally...
# Posted on December 8th 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Anything goes.....
Good examples of where not to go KML. ......
"We have a regular contingent of players who play a variety of things, guitars, singers, fiddles, various squeeze boxes, whistles, bodhrans, mandolins, bouzokis, harmonicas, egg shakers etc, etc....",
varous squeeze boxes sounds like various pitches for a start, but pleeeeease.... EGG SHAKERS ARE NOT MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS. If someone turns up at your session with one get the biggest, hairyest, local to inform the offenser that he hates eggs and will have one of his little turns if he hears one.
I quite enjoy the odd different session, but to me some things should never 'go' at a session..This is my top ten, what are your personal hates?
1. SHAKEY EGGS
2. JUMBO BODHRANS
3. TABLE HITTING WITH STICKS ETC
4. PLAYING HAND DRUMS WITH STICKS ETC
5. BUSKING THE TUNE
6. LACK OF ATTENTION TO TUNING
7. ROUND THE CIRCLE 'TURNS'
8. SMELLY FEET
9. TO MANY SMOKING BREAKS
10. BEEN PLAYING A COUPLE OF YEARS BUT NOW SELF PROCLAIMED EXPERT TYPES
# Posted on December 8th 2007 by bogman
Re: Anything goes.....
Too right bogman - all of the above with the possible exception of smelly feet (but now that you mention it....) have come up here many times before as pet hates. As for shakey eggs I have myself told persons where to stick them.
Also needless to say, I don't think I'll make a pilgrimage to the Mick Jagger Centre, as I may well have some maths homework to do at that time, which sounds a lot more fun, but might have a look at the one in Woolwich, only because it's not too far away, but I don't hold out much hope for it as being a roaring trad session (call me a snob if you will....)
# Posted on December 8th 2007 by Key Maniac Lad
Re: Anything goes.....
Perhaps everyone sings Cole Porter songs in between tune sets?
# Posted on December 8th 2007 by sts
Re: Anything goes.....
Anything goes: Well, if you try to be all things, you usually wind being none of them, really. I know a box player who told me she plays "all styles". I, alas, did not agree.
Top hates at Irish sessions, currently:
1. Really poorly played anything (get some help, learn the instrument, learn the tunes, then please DO come back), and, while we are at it, musicians who cannot tell the swing and rhythm of one tune or style from another who simply jump on in.
Selfish, I would say.
2. 5 string banjos (personal bias, I prefer plectrum tenor banjo, thank you, and I admit I should probably listen to more 5-stringers to form a fair opinion.
3. More than one or two bodhrans playing at once.
4. "Experts." (all species, genres, stripes, etc.)
5. Rudeness or presumptuousness of any kind, especially toward newcomers (assuming they have been made welcome to join in, natch).
6. Digereedoos.
7. Pop tunes/songs.
8. Too many mandolins.
And add to these pretty much everything else Bogman listed above ---
(especially SMELLY FEET, Good NIGHT!, what a NASTY thing that is!!)
# Posted on December 8th 2007 by Rook
Re: Anything goes.....
"Anything goes" has to mean Croydon, where a sign on a market stall cheerfully proclaims:
"Give the Gift of Music this Christmas".
What are they selling?
You've guessed it- shakey eggs and didgeridoos.
# Posted on December 8th 2007 by P-K
Re: Anything goes.....
Ouch! I was expecting a stall full of pirated recordings with Daniel O'Donnell blaring over the PA system singing Christmas carols...
Hey Key, we could always set up a night with popcorn and beer and get wasted watching images of fruitflies...
# Posted on December 8th 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Anything goes.....
Maybe anything goes means they'll play Irish, Scottish, English and Cape Breton or more. Maybe they'll do a few songs. Maybe they're ok with newbies starting a tune at a moderate pace. It might not be as dire as you are imagining.
# Posted on December 8th 2007 by sbhikes
Re: Anything goes.....
Oh, no, sbhikes, it will be much more dire than even Danny can imagine.
The descriptions of both events sound like something that a Methodist Youth Club might have organised in the 1970s.
Danny, sharpen your bargepole!
# Posted on December 8th 2007 by Floss the Tethers
Re: Anything goes.....
Put it this way. I've endured sessions with some of the personnel and I think I prefer this young person's playing:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vOtKQJXqkiY
(As I say, call me a snob...)
# Posted on December 8th 2007 by Key Maniac Lad
Re: Anything goes.....
Call you a "nob" ~ nah, I'd never do that...
I'll bring the popcorn and beer, as long as Belgian is OK, but whatever you'd like ~ you bring the film...
# Posted on December 8th 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Anything goes.....
who takes off their shoes in a session? i've personally never noticed any feet odour at most sessions i attended, at least nothing that made me remember it.. apart from that, i agree with the general gist of the thread; if anything goes, be nothing!
# Posted on December 10th 2007 by diarmaidanconnachtach