'At the risk of incurring the wrath of all the smokers (do I care?), has anyone else heard of this report published in the BMJ, by doctor and session box player John Garvey?
Re: Accordions breath easier since the smoking ban
Having washed the walls of a lunch room for loggers, where a hell of a lot of smoking took place, and watched the brown gooey stuff roll down the walls and the general brown change to white, yes, I'm a believer that the same thing coated itself inside bellows and also accumulated to some degree on reeds, metal or wood, and I can't imagine that it wouldn't have had an effect, if nothing else, lowering the life expectancy of the thing it coated, like it has been proven to do to lungs and people. We've also lost loved ones to that vile goo. It eats people up, so I suspect it eats other things too, and affects their tone. It is caustic stuff wherever it collects...
So, where are those indignant smokers anyway? They have my concern, whether they want it or not, because I value music and musicians and would want them, and their instruments, to last as long as possible without impediment... Smoking kills, and I'll bet that also meant, under attack from all those awful chemicals, more time for instruments under the care of a repairman. If the instruments could talk they'd probably have welcomed, coughed and sighed, the repair vacation from the smog of the old sessions...
Re: Accordions breath easier since the smoking ban
Ah yes. I gave the inside of my concertina a ceremonial clean out when the smoking ban came in in England. Should stay that way now! And I no longer feel the need to open the box as soon as I get home from playing to let out the horrible smoky smell!
Re: Accordions breath easier since the smoking ban
You can Listen Again, but when I heard it, it was on at about 8.30am, and the whole show is on for three hours from 6.00am, so you have to forward it on about two and a bit hours...unless they had the slot on earlier as well.....here it is anyway: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/networks/radio4/aod.shtml?radio4/today_fri#
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Hi Thanks for the listen again link ... I fast forwarded to it (slowly ) and the read out said 03:44 - ish when the interview came along ... for some reason the display started around 1:00 (!?) - this was in the BBC's own player.
Re: Accordions breath easier since the smoking ban
Yeah, that was in the LA Times today too:
Irish pipes breathe easier in smoke-free air:
Repairers of musical instruments have seen less damage since the 2004 tobacco ban, reports a team of physicians.
Re: Accordions breath easier since the smoking ban
The article's spot on. You should see the reed I played with for the better part of eight months in smoky pubs. The inside of it is black. Needless to say, it doesn't work that well anymore.
Accordions breath easier since the smoking ban
Accordions breath easier since the smoking ban
(as mentioned in another thread ):
'At the risk of incurring the wrath of all the smokers (do I care?), has anyone else heard of this report published in the BMJ, by doctor and session box player John Garvey?
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/83906.php
He was interviewed on Today on Radio 4 (UK) this morning. Should be able to Listen Again in an hour or so. '
i listened to this on the radio this morning and though it was done in a slightly tongue-in-cheek manner it was certainly an interesting piece.
thanks to KML for providing the link.
i'll have alook at that when i get back from sunny Brum...
(if that's what it can do to the box etc....!)
# Posted on September 28th 2007 by biggus dave
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Ahh! Right! Thanks Dave. So now *you* can suffer the indignation of all the nicotine heads on here!
# Posted on September 28th 2007 by Key Maniac Lad
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i dont care.....long live smokeless pubs! three cheers for the smoking ban..... At last! ahh a deep breath and the next tune.!
# Posted on September 28th 2007 by jig
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'So now *you* can suffer the indignation of all the nicotine heads on here!'
that's not a problem for me,Danny - it just puts me even more in touch with my inner obergruppenfuehrer.
but in a good way,lol
apart from which i have a train to catch so i will be bllissfully unaware of any ordure heaped on my head until sunday.
i can't wait!
# Posted on September 28th 2007 by biggus dave
Re: Accordions breath easier since the smoking ban
Having washed the walls of a lunch room for loggers, where a hell of a lot of smoking took place, and watched the brown gooey stuff roll down the walls and the general brown change to white, yes, I'm a believer that the same thing coated itself inside bellows and also accumulated to some degree on reeds, metal or wood, and I can't imagine that it wouldn't have had an effect, if nothing else, lowering the life expectancy of the thing it coated, like it has been proven to do to lungs and people. We've also lost loved ones to that vile goo. It eats people up, so I suspect it eats other things too, and affects their tone. It is caustic stuff wherever it collects...
So, where are those indignant smokers anyway? They have my concern, whether they want it or not, because I value music and musicians and would want them, and their instruments, to last as long as possible without impediment... Smoking kills, and I'll bet that also meant, under attack from all those awful chemicals, more time for instruments under the care of a repairman. If the instruments could talk they'd probably have welcomed, coughed and sighed, the repair vacation from the smog of the old sessions...
# Posted on September 28th 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Accordions breath easier since the smoking ban
Ah yes. I gave the inside of my concertina a ceremonial clean out when the smoking ban came in in England. Should stay that way now! And I no longer feel the need to open the box as soon as I get home from playing to let out the horrible smoky smell!
# Posted on September 28th 2007 by helenakitt
Re: Accordions breath easier since the smoking ban
You can Listen Again, but when I heard it, it was on at about 8.30am, and the whole show is on for three hours from 6.00am, so you have to forward it on about two and a bit hours...unless they had the slot on earlier as well.....here it is anyway:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/networks/radio4/aod.shtml?radio4/today_fri#
# Posted on September 28th 2007 by Key Maniac Lad
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Thanks Key, appreciated, I'll set aside time for it. My dear wife insisted on 'local radio' this morning, so I missed it...
# Posted on September 28th 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Accordions breath easier since the smoking ban
Hi Thanks for the listen again link ... I fast forwarded to it (slowly
) and the read out said 03:44 - ish when the interview came along ... for some reason the display started around 1:00 (!?) - this was in the BBC's own player.
Nice piece.
# Posted on September 28th 2007 by spindizzy
Re: Accordions breath easier since the smoking ban
Yeah, that was in the LA Times today too:
Irish pipes breathe easier in smoke-free air:
Repairers of musical instruments have seen less damage since the 2004 tobacco ban, reports a team of physicians.
http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-sci-smoking28sep28,1,163537.story?ctrack=1&cset=true
# Posted on September 28th 2007 by Grack
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Will the glee of the non-smokers never end? Do you relly have to gloat this much?
# Posted on September 29th 2007 by Björn
Re: Accordions breath easier since the smoking ban
The article's spot on. You should see the reed I played with for the better part of eight months in smoky pubs. The inside of it is black. Needless to say, it doesn't work that well anymore.
# Posted on September 29th 2007 by TheSilverSpear
Re: Accordions breath easier since the smoking ban
Hmmn.
Blackened reeds, tarnished innards.
"CANCER-TINAS."
"AILIN' PIPES."
Any more, gang?
Cheers.
(Ah, coffee. Good Mornin', folks!!)
# Posted on September 29th 2007 by Rook