The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
A comment from Reverend Pete spurred me to open this thread. Suppose ITM is still lively 300 years from now and the Session.org is still up and running.
What would you like to tell the reader of 2307 who gets bored and reads the archives from back in 2007? How will you explain to him why the Big Discussions we had were so important - you know the ones I mean (dots versus by_ear, session not a perf*o*mance, bodhrans an instrument or not, session etiquette, ...)
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Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
Your arguments about whether the pandelethonium is acceptable in a traditional session are nothing new. For as long as the tradition has existed, the push and pull of the pure traditionalists vs. the progressives has been part of the driving force which allows this wonderful music to not only survive, but also thrive.
So argue away, and rejoice in being part of something special!
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
I read an article recently which said that, following research carried out on fruit flies, the prospect of humans living to be several hundreds of years old is a lot nearer than we think.
If I remember rightly, Danny (KML) is our resident expert on fruit flies and I would be very interested to hear what he has to say about the subject.
This could have serious repercussions for sessions in the future. Assuming the birth rate stays the same, overcrowding is the first one that comes to mind.
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
"In those days, not too many people had more than one head and one pair of hands, so they had to restrict themselves to one instrument at a time. Can you imagine it? Then duplication technology took off around 2100, and people were queuing round the block to have their three-year-olds done in time to go to their first whistle classes. But the traditionalists didn't like it, oh no, they were like the Catholic Church used to be, they said it was unnatural, maybe they were right; but you should have seen that cousin of our Jackie's playing the pipes, guitar and fiddle all together at the fleadh..."
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
"one pair of hands"? I remember our Mother shouting at us, as small children, that she had "only two pairs of hands". And we all knew she had eyes in the back of her head, hidden under her hair somewhere. This was in the middle of the 20th century, so the basic genetics were around even then.
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
I thought it would be:
...but unless you were actually *born* you can't actually play this music.
...as for fruit flies, we've noticed the ones fed on polenta-based food seem to live longer. Maybe that's the secret of the Mediterranean diet. But yeah, there's lots of talk of this longevity thing right now. If people will live to 2-300 years, maybe the tradition won't die out in 2307 after all.
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
Back then, people used to have to get physical objects with the sound encoded on them (CDs, records) to learn tunes, rather than accessing it through the neural grid.
And people who played music used to be known as 'musicians', because of the time spent in learning to play an instrument, as opposed to now, when all you need is the correct module from the neural grid to to play any instrument.
-----or------
Most of the the musicians died out in 'The Session' wars of 2023, after online communities became infected with the superTroll Virus(TM).
-----or------
After the floods and the energy crisis, mankind entered a second Dark Ages, when musicians prospered, because of the lack of any electronic entertainment.
Never mind 2307, who thinks the session will be here in 2037?
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
Back in the 2000s, people used to write down music in what were known as "barcodes", which had lines on them. They were encrypted in a very basic way, so you would often hear people ask what the "key" was. This was shared around sometimes quite quietly so others could not join in. The main instruments were some sort of pipes, but no-one knows exactly what. It's thought that they sounded like the digital-do, an instrument which you blew down the end of and which was the signal for the session to start.
That's what I found by Gogging "session" on an old search-motor.
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
"The global troubles of the c21 affected ITM considerably. Power supply crises reduced or removed the possibility of learning from recordings. Written music survived wars / social upheavals / fires / floods, etc. mainly in America, as they seemed to use it more there across a wide territorial range. The music travelled from West Coast USA and Canada and became very big in East Asia, where it assumed some strange and novel forms.
Meanwhile, the Russian tundra was being opened up for farming and other uses. Many Irish people, drawn by an atavistic attraction for digging and burning peat, migrated there. Sean-Nos singing became irretrievably, some say fatally, wedded to Arctic circular throat singing. (It also became associated with Lapp dancing bars.)
The position of ITM in the colonies on the Moon and Mars has not been known since contact was lost in 2200. As the last report indicated that a third part had been added to Tamlin during a party on one of the asteroids, the signs do not seem good.
As the Mediterranean diet now consists of cactus, not many want to live on it these days."
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
Hi maxF
When the power outages made conventional electronic entertainment obsolete, people started using hard-copy, self-powered random-access reading devices. These didn't require user-licencing and could be "lent" to other people to enjoy. It was such a revolution that buildings (called a "Library") were built to keep them in. Imagine a search-motor like Goggle (if you know your Digital History) only in 3D form. They became immensely wealthy institutions where all knowledge resided. I'm honoured to meet someone who has one of these "Books". I've never seen one.
By the way, according to electronic lending records, you owe
NWC|4.5 (new world currency)
If dollars still existed that would be $4,346,253,467,470,000,000,000.34 - enough to sponsor the maintainence of a medium-size iceberg for a week.
The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
A comment from Reverend Pete spurred me to open this thread. Suppose ITM is still lively 300 years from now and the Session.org is still up and running.
What would you like to tell the reader of 2307 who gets bored and reads the archives from back in 2007? How will you explain to him why the Big Discussions we had were so important - you know the ones I mean (dots versus by_ear, session not a perf*o*mance, bodhrans an instrument or not, session etiquette, ...)
Contribute to the Time Capsule so your words will change the lives of those in the 24th century!
# Posted on September 20th 2007 by grego
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
"If you ever come across anyone called Llig, do not produce a music stand and then sheet music".
# Posted on September 20th 2007 by bodhran bliss
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
Has anyone seen this movie?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy
I'd be amazed if anyone in 2307 can even operate a computer, let alone a musical instrument.
# Posted on September 20th 2007 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
Your arguments about whether the pandelethonium is acceptable in a traditional session are nothing new. For as long as the tradition has existed, the push and pull of the pure traditionalists vs. the progressives has been part of the driving force which allows this wonderful music to not only survive, but also thrive.
So argue away, and rejoice in being part of something special!
Sincerely, Reverend Pete
Sept. 20, 2007
# Posted on September 20th 2007 by Reverend
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
"Are you folks still as tired of the Kesh Jig as we were?"
# Posted on September 20th 2007 by AlBrown
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
"I'm afraid unless you were *born* in Iceland, you can't really play this music."
# Posted on September 20th 2007 by benhall.1
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
Sorry but unless you were actually born on *Earth* you can't actually play any music !
# Posted on September 20th 2007 by flossie
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
Well now, how do you know that, flossie? You've heard of New Orleans Martian bands haven't you?
# Posted on September 20th 2007 by benhall.1
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Has the reactable become acceptable in sessions?. 300 years old should be enough to be considered traditional...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEDia3CFdfg
# Posted on September 20th 2007 by Ramiro
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
Anyway, I probably won't be able to read your answer. I'm afraid my eyes will be too tired then...
# Posted on September 20th 2007 by Ramiro
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
I read an article recently which said that, following research carried out on fruit flies, the prospect of humans living to be several hundreds of years old is a lot nearer than we think.
If I remember rightly, Danny (KML) is our resident expert on fruit flies and I would be very interested to hear what he has to say about the subject.
This could have serious repercussions for sessions in the future. Assuming the birth rate stays the same, overcrowding is the first one that comes to mind.
# Posted on September 20th 2007 by murfbox
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
.........but then it does open up the possibilities of learning the uilleann pipes complete with drones and regulators
# Posted on September 21st 2007 by murfbox
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
"In those days, not too many people had more than one head and one pair of hands, so they had to restrict themselves to one instrument at a time. Can you imagine it? Then duplication technology took off around 2100, and people were queuing round the block to have their three-year-olds done in time to go to their first whistle classes. But the traditionalists didn't like it, oh no, they were like the Catholic Church used to be, they said it was unnatural, maybe they were right; but you should have seen that cousin of our Jackie's playing the pipes, guitar and fiddle all together at the fleadh..."
# Posted on September 21st 2007 by nicholas
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
"one pair of hands"? I remember our Mother shouting at us, as small children, that she had "only two pairs of hands". And we all knew she had eyes in the back of her head, hidden under her hair somewhere. This was in the middle of the 20th century, so the basic genetics were around even then.
# Posted on September 21st 2007 by lazyhound
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
I thought it would be:
...but unless you were actually *born* you can't actually play this music.
...as for fruit flies, we've noticed the ones fed on polenta-based food seem to live longer. Maybe that's the secret of the Mediterranean diet. But yeah, there's lots of talk of this longevity thing right now. If people will live to 2-300 years, maybe the tradition won't die out in 2307 after all.
# Posted on September 21st 2007 by Key Maniac Lad
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
There's no way it'll die out!
The saxaphone & 11chords might've become obsolete by then, however.
# Posted on September 21st 2007 by morning star
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No ben I hadn't heard of the New Orleans Martian bands. But now you mention it we do have the Orange Martian bands are they related?
# Posted on September 21st 2007 by flossie
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
Back then, people used to have to get physical objects with the sound encoded on them (CDs, records) to learn tunes, rather than accessing it through the neural grid.
And people who played music used to be known as 'musicians', because of the time spent in learning to play an instrument, as opposed to now, when all you need is the correct module from the neural grid to to play any instrument.
-----or------
Most of the the musicians died out in 'The Session' wars of 2023, after online communities became infected with the superTroll Virus(TM).
-----or------
After the floods and the energy crisis, mankind entered a second Dark Ages, when musicians prospered, because of the lack of any electronic entertainment.
Never mind 2307, who thinks the session will be here in 2037?
# Posted on September 21st 2007 by continuo
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
Back in the 2000s, people used to write down music in what were known as "barcodes", which had lines on them. They were encrypted in a very basic way, so you would often hear people ask what the "key" was. This was shared around sometimes quite quietly so others could not join in. The main instruments were some sort of pipes, but no-one knows exactly what. It's thought that they sounded like the digital-do, an instrument which you blew down the end of and which was the signal for the session to start.
That's what I found by Gogging "session" on an old search-motor.
# Posted on September 21st 2007 by Mark Harmer
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LOL @ Mark,
# Posted on September 21st 2007 by grego
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300 hundred years ago we played what your greatgreatgreat . . . grandparents would have called music, or as we says, tunes. Here is one of them.
Farewell to Ireland
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/4403
Only one person ever knew how many total tunes exist. We call him "Dow". Or by the nickname, "The one who holds great volumes of information regarding our tradition within his head thus preserving our ancient traditions far into the future . . . "
In what we called 'modern times' {the good old days to all of you} someone invented the wax cylinder on which we keep our recordings. All the museums will have a copy of this one;
Johnny O'Leary Of Sliabh Luachra
http://www.thesession.org/recordings/display/1284
Listen , listen, & listen, then listen again. Buy a pennywhistle. Then very slowly play what you hear. Be sure no one else is playing. That takes longer. When you are ready you will find out about sessions. They will eventually let you play. That will probably be 300 years; give or take a generation.
Which reminds me whatever you do don't let anyone tell you to"mind your abc's" (unless it is Jeremy). Please never use the following!
http://www.lesession.co.uk/abc/abc_notation.htm#intro
http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html
Let's see now . . . 2037 . . . Yeah they should be there.
Sandy Bell's Edinburgh, Scotland
http://www.thesession.org/sessions/display/59
Bring a bodhran & guitar (just in case)
If anyone tells you "Feck off!" it means they like you & want you to come back next week.
There is a website I have heard of. I don't think you have to join:
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/1
Here is what we look like;
Zina Lee
http://www.thesession.org/members/display/513
Just in case I left anything out:
Dow
http://www.thesession.org/members/display/4763
By all means find the craic this summer:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=tarbert,+clare,+Ireland&daddr=milltown,+malbay,+clare,+ireland&sll=52.733065,-9.43968&sspn=0.424929,1.274414&ie=UTF8&t=k&om=0&ll=52.713835,-9.420776&spn=0.425115,1.274414&z=10
# Posted on September 21st 2007 by Random_notes
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
"The global troubles of the c21 affected ITM considerably. Power supply crises reduced or removed the possibility of learning from recordings. Written music survived wars / social upheavals / fires / floods, etc. mainly in America, as they seemed to use it more there across a wide territorial range. The music travelled from West Coast USA and Canada and became very big in East Asia, where it assumed some strange and novel forms.
Meanwhile, the Russian tundra was being opened up for farming and other uses. Many Irish people, drawn by an atavistic attraction for digging and burning peat, migrated there. Sean-Nos singing became irretrievably, some say fatally, wedded to Arctic circular throat singing. (It also became associated with Lapp dancing bars.)
The position of ITM in the colonies on the Moon and Mars has not been known since contact was lost in 2200. As the last report indicated that a third part had been added to Tamlin during a party on one of the asteroids, the signs do not seem good.
As the Mediterranean diet now consists of cactus, not many want to live on it these days."
# Posted on September 21st 2007 by nicholas
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
Damn! I must take that library book back.
# Posted on September 22nd 2007 by maxF
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
Often I feel in a time capsule at 2307 but by twelve oclock after another pint I feel fine.
# Posted on September 22nd 2007 by bazouki dave and the real tooty flutey
Re: The Time Capsule Thread - People of 2307, please read
Hi maxF
When the power outages made conventional electronic entertainment obsolete, people started using hard-copy, self-powered random-access reading devices. These didn't require user-licencing and could be "lent" to other people to enjoy. It was such a revolution that buildings (called a "Library") were built to keep them in. Imagine a search-motor like Goggle (if you know your Digital History) only in 3D form. They became immensely wealthy institutions where all knowledge resided. I'm honoured to meet someone who has one of these "Books". I've never seen one.
By the way, according to electronic lending records, you owe
NWC|4.5 (new world currency)
If dollars still existed that would be $4,346,253,467,470,000,000,000.34 - enough to sponsor the maintainence of a medium-size iceberg for a week.
# Posted on September 22nd 2007 by Mark Harmer