A while back, the guvnor of my local, suburban London pub considered putting on some live music and asked me if I could arrange something for him.
I’m very friendly with a few musicians in the area and we’ve been playing together for years and so I rounded him up a crew – four or five guitars, electric bass, acoustic bass, squeezebox (or wheezebox as I like to call it), two Irish drums and a washboard.
We like to do the singaround stuff, with the occasional come-ye-all, where we invite everyone to join in.
The first night went blindingly. And the next. And the next. And so on.
Till the guvnor asked if some Irish musicians could join us.
I wished someone had given these guys a lesson in session etiquette. They just played on and on and on and on. And not content just to play a tune and then move on the next person’s turn, they played tune after tune after tune after tune each time they started off. (At least I assume so; sometimes the tunes sounded pretty similar and it was hard to tell.)
And they wouldn’t give us time to think. It was my turn to sing and I was mulling over whether to do “Pleasant and Delightful”, “Smith Of Bristol” or “Wild Rover” – not the one that usually springs to mind, but a song I composed about my father’s old mongrel who picked up a brainial illness which left him loopy-loo. While I’m weighing up the pros and cons, they started off again over the top of my thinking. Needless to say that was it as far as I was concerned and I packed my guitar up and didn’t play another chord all night.
And the rudeness! One of them approached me at the bar and asked if I was all right for he’d seen me pack the guitar away. I told him that I wasn’t feeling very valued and that I don’t like playing along to Irish music anyway, because it’s all G and D all night (which was a bit of an exaggeration; it is a bit tedious to play in just two keys all night, but sometimes I don’t mind for they’re my favourite keys anyway). To which the impertinent interloper replied “just because you know how to slide a capo up and down a guitar’s neck doesn’t make you an effing walking chord dictionary”.
Up to this point I quite liked Irish music. I’ve learned “Ride On” and “The Black Velvet Band” and a few others (I like anything with a few minor chords thrown in to make the guitar-playing interesting). Sometimes when the mood is right I’ve been known to sing “Town I Know So Well” by Phil Coulthard, which is a brilliant song about the Troubles in his home town somewhere in Ireland.
I even like Irish tunes and love backing them – as long as the session isn’t dominated by them. We like to end some of our nights with our accordion player giving us a rousing version of that jig “Rakish Mallow”.
But what to do about the overbearing players? Have you geezers come across anything similar? How should we ensure that we get some sort of peace breaking out? I fear I may have to give up if this sort of thing continues, and so will some of my mates!
I really like that old song 'Pleasant and Delightful' It was on the A side of an old 78 record I once had. I think the B side was called 'Sick and Tired'. Shame you didn't get to sing it, and I hope your dog got better.
Five guitars? - Is this a wind up?
Do punters really want to listen to someone who by his own admission, only plays chords, and uses a capo at that !
As the tunes were interminable, you must have had ample time to mull over which 40 verser to do next and to jump straight in as soon as the Irish musicians (with impecable taste) took breath.
Try posting your query on www.thesingerssession.org
I'd really like to get a listen to that old 78 that is mentioned up above. The only somng called Sick And Tired that I know is one that Eric Clapton does - a bluesy number - and it surely can't be the same.
See, that's the thing about the sort of sessions I like, you could get a delightful and pleasant song such as Pleasant and Delightful (my little joke - sorry, I've loads of little puns like that - I'm a bit of a commedian as well as a musician), followed maybe by a blues number, followed perhaps by some country and western and then maybe a jig or a reel. I really didnt want to give the impressioin that I dont like playing Irish music just because of what I said to the guy at the bar who'd already pulled my chain.
Our accordion playing friend does two tunes which I love to back becuase they're great fun. They're fairly similar, but I've learned to work out the difference between them. One's called Harvey's Home.
I've got a clever little trick with both of these numbers. You see they're in D. But although I can play in D (D, G and A), I like to slide the capo up to the second fret and play the same chords as I would if the tune was really in C (C, F and G). It doesn;t half get admiring glances from the other guitarists. (But then, once you have a bit oif experience under your belt, your mind becomes a human computer for chords. Like, if I'm playing and someone says he's going to sing a song in E, I'll immediately think "capo at second fret, make a D shape" or "capo at 4th fret and play in C". I hardly have to think really; the subconscious is whirring and throwing up all sorts of possibilities. The magic of live music, eh?)
But one of my mates reckons that Harvey's Home is a rebel tune, called after some lreader of some uprising across the water. And that figures because the Irish people always seem to know it and to whoop and holler when it's played (just like I do if someone starts Like A Rolling Stone or BAby Please Dont Go or The Sussex Carol). So we've cut back on playing it lately because we dont hold with glorifying any disrespect round these parts.
These replies are very helpful and I can see that if I hang on in here, I'll get some real nuggets. Thanks, mates!
Actually, John. One thing I really dont like is a wind-up. If anyone's replies were wind-ups, then I'd be really cross. I come here to bear my sole and I'd like otyhers to be as open and generous in their writing as I am in mine. Let's try not to take the proverbial, please, people!
Another thing. The Irish musicians who are aiming to take our session over and turn it into any of the common or garden Irish sessions you get all over the place seem to think that me and my mates know nothing about Irish music. Which is poretty galling. I was onme of the first people I know to have bought the Van Morrison and The Chieftains album. And I thought it was brilliant and I went and told all my mates to buy it (and one of them immediately learned Celtic Ray and Stay A While With Your Old Ones and still sings them from time to time). And if that's not top-quality Irish music, then tell me what the hell is?!?!
I've been to every type of Irish music pub in London and I've sung along to "Come Out You Blackened Hands" and clapped politely when the diddlers have fineished off diddling. I've even had a few rounds of applause myself when I've joined in and sung a few songs or backed up a few tune people (who badly needed it in somne cases - theres nothing like a bit oif guitar accompoaniment to give a bit of lift to music that's being played a little bit too gently and tiumidly).
So, you see, I know just as much as most pople and more than a great many and find it hurtful and unjust to be told otherwise.
Sorry, Just needed to get that off my chest. Still hoping for some tips on how we regular session-people and the Irish music people can get aloig happily in the future.
But I'm afraid I've moved oin a bit from absolute beginner. I like to think of myself more as a teacher nowadays.
Not in the foraml teaching sense. But when a new person joins us and he or she is unsure of what chords to play to back a particular song, I'll lean in and whipser to thjem to watch my hands. And if they;re good enough, sometimes they can recognise the chord shapes and follow along. Sometimes I have to call out thew chords for them if it's a weird chord, such as, for example BFlat7 (capo on the third fret, make a G7 shape - I think; I havent got my Tanglewood to hand to check).
But I'm sure it's very useful for a beginner and I see it's by penguin and they;re a very highly respected publishing house, so it must be worth the money. wish I'd have come acroos it years ago when i was learning to play guitar.
So is it The Rakes Of Mallow you were playing, or Rakish Paddy?
The Rakes Of Mallow is one of the most horrible tunes that's ever hatched in the perverted mind of man, except for the one just like it - The Winster Gallop? - which is worse.
Rakish Paddy has been specifically developed by generations of pipers under the dubious hand of fate, lousy weather and chronic misunderstanding to express and inculcate a mood of absolute spleen-busting fury. Study the lyrics of Planxty's song "Bean Phaidin", spending seven years doing so on some rock in the Atlantic where the gannets will teach you Gaelic; immerse yourself in their mood, and their singularly penetrating statements of disaffection; then ponder on the fact Planxty chose Rakish Paddy out of maybe ten thousand possible tunes to follow it up.
"Rakish Mallow" indeed sounds like a recipe for sour pints and bad vibes.
Don't mind me, I'm just enjoying myself doing a little winding up..!
Careful Curlew, The Balls of Blue Hill is another anti-vasectomy rebel tune also written by that Irish rable-rouser Harvey. Strummer has clearly said he doesn't appreciate that sort of music being played at his session...
And another thing I didnt much appreciate was that when my nmates and me kicked into our usual hell for leather version of Dirty Old Town, the diddly-merchants just sat there with their arms folded. I only decided to play that song to get a spirit of one-for-all and all-for-one going.
I was flummoxed, needless to say. And one of them claimed he didnt know how to play Star of the county down when I suggested we play it. Surely another song that everybody must know. I just want evrybody to get the picture straight. I bent over backwards to try to get some involvement going and sweet fa.
Then one of them decided to sing and the lads and I were primed, guitars at the ready to give him a bit of accompaniment. But he shot me a look and said that he'd prefer it if he was left to sing the song alone. The Irish boys all put their instruments down and bowed their heads. It was like a funeral. Some dirge about Roxy Vaughan or something.
Not that you could have accompanied his awful singing anyway. His timing was all over the place; sometimes he'd drag a line out and sometimes he'd leave a big gap beytween his verses. And there was no chorus. I think these guys have a lot to learn about singing folk music. Tyhere are only two rules in my book - drive the song along with the guitar (think Woody, think Leadbelly) and aim for a chorus that people can join in.
I'm sure that there's no-one here would argue with that!
PS as for "submitting" a tune. I'm afraid that's a bit too tecvhnicval for me. All I know is that it's it in D (D, G and A or - if you;re feeling like showing off - capo on the 10th fret and play E, A and B - although B's a tricky chord for a beginner so another option might be to "capo at 7"- sorry for the technical jargon and play G, C and D chord shapes - not quite as flashy, but makes a plasant and delightful change from making the D, G, A shapes).
This is just too much! I can't take it.. I mean it was an enjoyable read up until, "come out you blackened hands"! That is priceless I am going to be chuckling to that one for days. Thanks strummer keep up the good work
four or five guitars, electric bass, acoustic bass, squeezebox (or wheezebox as I like to call it), two Irish drums and a washboard.
hey what about the clarinet?
come on guys, that bait is just too salty.
Come and join us on a Suinday night, we have 3 bodhrans, 3 guitars, a fiddler and a banjo player. We sing "Dirty Old Town" and "Town I love so well" "Bridge over Troubled Waters", "When you're down and Out" "Summertime" "Ain't misbehaving" "Peggy Gordon" "Geordie" "Dimming of Day" and Cheshire Cat's entire list of tunes he doesn't know, so you would love it.
And there are usually about 5 or 6 capos lying on the table.
I'm scared to reply in case it is all a wind up..
seriously, a bit of diplomacy might help clear the air at the gig..just use the same diplomacy that u used posting on a wsite called "thesession.org" and mentioning diddley-merchants!
but i do sympathise-in my home town in England I tried to start an Irish session in a bar and all these yokes turned up with violins and flutes, and didn't know a single one of my Ronan Keating songs. And when I started "We Got The World Tonight" they all stormed off. I had to stroke my Louis Walsh bust to stay calm.(It never leaves my sight, along with my signed photo of Samantha Mumba).
Hmm, is it a windup? First clue is the huge amount of deliberately provocative statements, that scream to be commented on. Then when you click on the profile, you find that Mr. Strummer is posting for the first time, and has no history on the website.
But I want to hear more, because this is the most entertaining wind-up I have ever seen on this board, without question. Lots of laugh out loud stuff!
What to do?
What to do?
A while back, the guvnor of my local, suburban London pub considered putting on some live music and asked me if I could arrange something for him.
I’m very friendly with a few musicians in the area and we’ve been playing together for years and so I rounded him up a crew – four or five guitars, electric bass, acoustic bass, squeezebox (or wheezebox as I like to call it), two Irish drums and a washboard.
We like to do the singaround stuff, with the occasional come-ye-all, where we invite everyone to join in.
The first night went blindingly. And the next. And the next. And so on.
Till the guvnor asked if some Irish musicians could join us.
I wished someone had given these guys a lesson in session etiquette. They just played on and on and on and on. And not content just to play a tune and then move on the next person’s turn, they played tune after tune after tune after tune each time they started off. (At least I assume so; sometimes the tunes sounded pretty similar and it was hard to tell.)
And they wouldn’t give us time to think. It was my turn to sing and I was mulling over whether to do “Pleasant and Delightful”, “Smith Of Bristol” or “Wild Rover” – not the one that usually springs to mind, but a song I composed about my father’s old mongrel who picked up a brainial illness which left him loopy-loo. While I’m weighing up the pros and cons, they started off again over the top of my thinking. Needless to say that was it as far as I was concerned and I packed my guitar up and didn’t play another chord all night.
And the rudeness! One of them approached me at the bar and asked if I was all right for he’d seen me pack the guitar away. I told him that I wasn’t feeling very valued and that I don’t like playing along to Irish music anyway, because it’s all G and D all night (which was a bit of an exaggeration; it is a bit tedious to play in just two keys all night, but sometimes I don’t mind for they’re my favourite keys anyway). To which the impertinent interloper replied “just because you know how to slide a capo up and down a guitar’s neck doesn’t make you an effing walking chord dictionary”.
Up to this point I quite liked Irish music. I’ve learned “Ride On” and “The Black Velvet Band” and a few others (I like anything with a few minor chords thrown in to make the guitar-playing interesting). Sometimes when the mood is right I’ve been known to sing “Town I Know So Well” by Phil Coulthard, which is a brilliant song about the Troubles in his home town somewhere in Ireland.
I even like Irish tunes and love backing them – as long as the session isn’t dominated by them. We like to end some of our nights with our accordion player giving us a rousing version of that jig “Rakish Mallow”.
But what to do about the overbearing players? Have you geezers come across anything similar? How should we ensure that we get some sort of peace breaking out? I fear I may have to give up if this sort of thing continues, and so will some of my mates!
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by the_strummer
Re: What to do?
Now you know how Irish music conquered the earth.
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by nicholas
Re: What to do?
"I don’t like playing along to Irish music anyway, because it’s all G and D all night.."
"...our accordion player giving us a rousing version of that jig “Rakish Mallow”.
Oh, Oh - I think I hear the sounds of guns being loaded - run Strummer, RUN!
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by Jusa Nutter Eejit
Re: What to do?
I really like that old song 'Pleasant and Delightful' It was on the A side of an old 78 record I once had. I think the B side was called 'Sick and Tired'. Shame you didn't get to sing it, and I hope your dog got better.
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by Free Reed
Re: What to do?
Difficult problem. I can put you in touch with someone you could have a very interesting chat with, his name's Pilib O' Conchubhar
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by Pól
Re: What to do?
Five guitars? - Is this a wind up?
Do punters really want to listen to someone who by his own admission, only plays chords, and uses a capo at that !
As the tunes were interminable, you must have had ample time to mull over which 40 verser to do next and to jump straight in as soon as the Irish musicians (with impecable taste) took breath.
Try posting your query on www.thesingerssession.org
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by geoffwright
Re: What to do?
Diamond geezer.
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by Here Lyeth
Re: What to do?
We all love a wind up, don't we?
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by Lurcherjohn
Re: What to do?
I'd really like to get a listen to that old 78 that is mentioned up above. The only somng called Sick And Tired that I know is one that Eric Clapton does - a bluesy number - and it surely can't be the same.
See, that's the thing about the sort of sessions I like, you could get a delightful and pleasant song such as Pleasant and Delightful (my little joke - sorry, I've loads of little puns like that - I'm a bit of a commedian as well as a musician), followed maybe by a blues number, followed perhaps by some country and western and then maybe a jig or a reel. I really didnt want to give the impressioin that I dont like playing Irish music just because of what I said to the guy at the bar who'd already pulled my chain.
Our accordion playing friend does two tunes which I love to back becuase they're great fun. They're fairly similar, but I've learned to work out the difference between them. One's called Harvey's Home.
I've got a clever little trick with both of these numbers. You see they're in D. But although I can play in D (D, G and A), I like to slide the capo up to the second fret and play the same chords as I would if the tune was really in C (C, F and G). It doesn;t half get admiring glances from the other guitarists. (But then, once you have a bit oif experience under your belt, your mind becomes a human computer for chords. Like, if I'm playing and someone says he's going to sing a song in E, I'll immediately think "capo at second fret, make a D shape" or "capo at 4th fret and play in C". I hardly have to think really; the subconscious is whirring and throwing up all sorts of possibilities. The magic of live music, eh?)
But one of my mates reckons that Harvey's Home is a rebel tune, called after some lreader of some uprising across the water. And that figures because the Irish people always seem to know it and to whoop and holler when it's played (just like I do if someone starts Like A Rolling Stone or BAby Please Dont Go or The Sussex Carol). So we've cut back on playing it lately because we dont hold with glorifying any disrespect round these parts.
These replies are very helpful and I can see that if I hang on in here, I'll get some real nuggets. Thanks, mates!
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by the_strummer
Re: What to do?
Actually, John. One thing I really dont like is a wind-up. If anyone's replies were wind-ups, then I'd be really cross. I come here to bear my sole and I'd like otyhers to be as open and generous in their writing as I am in mine. Let's try not to take the proverbial, please, people!
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by the_strummer
Re: What to do?
A "rebel" hornpipe called "Harvey's Home" coupled with a "jig" version of Rakes of Mallow - and you're telling us this isn't a wind-up? Oh dear...
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by Jusa Nutter Eejit
Re: What to do?
"I packed my guitar up and didn’t play another chord all night"
Good move strummer, I bet that sickened them, the cheecky feckers.
"I fear I may have to give up "
That'll kill them altogether.
Some great tips here http://us.penguingroup.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9780028642444,00.html
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by Backer
Re: What to do?
yer crackin' me up strummer
. You'll do well here.
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by Clear Drops
Re: What to do?
Another thing. The Irish musicians who are aiming to take our session over and turn it into any of the common or garden Irish sessions you get all over the place seem to think that me and my mates know nothing about Irish music. Which is poretty galling. I was onme of the first people I know to have bought the Van Morrison and The Chieftains album. And I thought it was brilliant and I went and told all my mates to buy it (and one of them immediately learned Celtic Ray and Stay A While With Your Old Ones and still sings them from time to time). And if that's not top-quality Irish music, then tell me what the hell is?!?!
I've been to every type of Irish music pub in London and I've sung along to "Come Out You Blackened Hands" and clapped politely when the diddlers have fineished off diddling. I've even had a few rounds of applause myself when I've joined in and sung a few songs or backed up a few tune people (who badly needed it in somne cases - theres nothing like a bit oif guitar accompoaniment to give a bit of lift to music that's being played a little bit too gently and tiumidly).
So, you see, I know just as much as most pople and more than a great many and find it hurtful and unjust to be told otherwise.
Sorry, Just needed to get that off my chest. Still hoping for some tips on how we regular session-people and the Irish music people can get aloig happily in the future.
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by the_strummer
Re: What to do?
"Come Out You Blackened Hands"
LOL - OK - you've tipped your hand now, wind-up boy. Can somebody help me get the hook out of my mouth? I was a fish on the line for a moment there..
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by Jusa Nutter Eejit
Re: What to do?
Thanks for the book tip.
But I'm afraid I've moved oin a bit from absolute beginner. I like to think of myself more as a teacher nowadays.
Not in the foraml teaching sense. But when a new person joins us and he or she is unsure of what chords to play to back a particular song, I'll lean in and whipser to thjem to watch my hands. And if they;re good enough, sometimes they can recognise the chord shapes and follow along. Sometimes I have to call out thew chords for them if it's a weird chord, such as, for example BFlat7 (capo on the third fret, make a G7 shape - I think; I havent got my Tanglewood to hand to check).
But I'm sure it's very useful for a beginner and I see it's by penguin and they;re a very highly respected publishing house, so it must be worth the money. wish I'd have come acroos it years ago when i was learning to play guitar.
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by the_strummer
Re: What to do?
Hail, O Strummer!
"A rousing version of that jig "Rakish Mallow..."
So is it The Rakes Of Mallow you were playing, or Rakish Paddy?
The Rakes Of Mallow is one of the most horrible tunes that's ever hatched in the perverted mind of man, except for the one just like it - The Winster Gallop? - which is worse.
Rakish Paddy has been specifically developed by generations of pipers under the dubious hand of fate, lousy weather and chronic misunderstanding to express and inculcate a mood of absolute spleen-busting fury. Study the lyrics of Planxty's song "Bean Phaidin", spending seven years doing so on some rock in the Atlantic where the gannets will teach you Gaelic; immerse yourself in their mood, and their singularly penetrating statements of disaffection; then ponder on the fact Planxty chose Rakish Paddy out of maybe ten thousand possible tunes to follow it up.
"Rakish Mallow" indeed sounds like a recipe for sour pints and bad vibes.
Don't mind me, I'm just enjoying myself doing a little winding up..!
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by nicholas
Re: What to do?
Ye'll have to submit that tune 'Harvey's Home' into the tunes section 'the_strummer' . What's the other one now ? Is it 'The Balls of Blue hill'?
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by curlew
Re: What to do?
Careful Curlew, The Balls of Blue Hill is another anti-vasectomy rebel tune also written by that Irish rable-rouser Harvey. Strummer has clearly said he doesn't appreciate that sort of music being played at his session...
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by Jusa Nutter Eejit
Re: What to do?
And another thing I didnt much appreciate was that when my nmates and me kicked into our usual hell for leather version of Dirty Old Town, the diddly-merchants just sat there with their arms folded. I only decided to play that song to get a spirit of one-for-all and all-for-one going.
I was flummoxed, needless to say. And one of them claimed he didnt know how to play Star of the county down when I suggested we play it. Surely another song that everybody must know. I just want evrybody to get the picture straight. I bent over backwards to try to get some involvement going and sweet fa.
Then one of them decided to sing and the lads and I were primed, guitars at the ready to give him a bit of accompaniment. But he shot me a look and said that he'd prefer it if he was left to sing the song alone. The Irish boys all put their instruments down and bowed their heads. It was like a funeral. Some dirge about Roxy Vaughan or something.
Not that you could have accompanied his awful singing anyway. His timing was all over the place; sometimes he'd drag a line out and sometimes he'd leave a big gap beytween his verses. And there was no chorus. I think these guys have a lot to learn about singing folk music. Tyhere are only two rules in my book - drive the song along with the guitar (think Woody, think Leadbelly) and aim for a chorus that people can join in.
I'm sure that there's no-one here would argue with that!
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by the_strummer
Re: What to do?
PS as for "submitting" a tune. I'm afraid that's a bit too tecvhnicval for me. All I know is that it's it in D (D, G and A or - if you;re feeling like showing off - capo on the 10th fret and play E, A and B - although B's a tricky chord for a beginner so another option might be to "capo at 7"- sorry for the technical jargon and play G, C and D chord shapes - not quite as flashy, but makes a plasant and delightful change from making the D, G, A shapes).
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by the_strummer
Re: What to do?
This is just too much! I can't take it.. I mean it was an enjoyable read up until, "come out you blackened hands"! That is priceless I am going to be chuckling to that one for days. Thanks strummer keep up the good work
# Posted on July 28th 2007 by piper jj
Re: What to do?
four or five guitars, electric bass, acoustic bass, squeezebox (or wheezebox as I like to call it), two Irish drums and a washboard.
hey what about the clarinet?
come on guys, that bait is just too salty.
# Posted on July 29th 2007 by mother
Re: What to do?
Come and join us on a Suinday night, we have 3 bodhrans, 3 guitars, a fiddler and a banjo player. We sing "Dirty Old Town" and "Town I love so well" "Bridge over Troubled Waters", "When you're down and Out" "Summertime" "Ain't misbehaving" "Peggy Gordon" "Geordie" "Dimming of Day" and Cheshire Cat's entire list of tunes he doesn't know, so you would love it.
And there are usually about 5 or 6 capos lying on the table.
# Posted on July 29th 2007 by bodhran bliss
Re: What to do?
I think it might be Danny, except Danny's spelling is much better. Or is that part of the cunning cover?
He's even got Bliss joining in ("Suinday").
"I come here to bear my sole"
Does that involve taking off your shoes, strummer?
# Posted on July 29th 2007 by oldstrings
Re: What to do?
Ahhh - 'sole'
# Posted on July 29th 2007 by Sugarfoot Jack
Re: What to do?
I'm scared to reply in case it is all a wind up..
seriously, a bit of diplomacy might help clear the air at the gig..just use the same diplomacy that u used posting on a wsite called "thesession.org" and mentioning diddley-merchants!
but i do sympathise-in my home town in England I tried to start an Irish session in a bar and all these yokes turned up with violins and flutes, and didn't know a single one of my Ronan Keating songs. And when I started "We Got The World Tonight" they all stormed off. I had to stroke my Louis Walsh bust to stay calm.(It never leaves my sight, along with my signed photo of Samantha Mumba).
# Posted on July 29th 2007 by hakanozel
Re: Ghost of Tanya
She's baaaaaack........
# Posted on July 29th 2007 by Michele Sims
Re: What to do?
(I love it when more of us girls come out to play.)
# Posted on July 30th 2007 by morning star
Re: What to do?
Hmm, is it a windup? First clue is the huge amount of deliberately provocative statements, that scream to be commented on. Then when you click on the profile, you find that Mr. Strummer is posting for the first time, and has no history on the website.
But I want to hear more, because this is the most entertaining wind-up I have ever seen on this board, without question. Lots of laugh out loud stuff!
# Posted on July 30th 2007 by AlBrown
Re: What to do?
Brilliant.
I met my love, by the gas works wall ..........
# Posted on July 31st 2007 by Ottery
Re: What to do?
i kissed my love by the factory wall..
never heard it called that before!
# Posted on August 1st 2007 by hakanozel