As a publican with TM roots should I paint my fiddle green along with green beer
and tinted guinness for St Pats day. What would be an ideal St Pats? For some
it may be thier first Celtic experience. Its not easy being green.
Delemic
Hello.
I am a new user of the session. I am an English accordian player living in Italy. Have you got by any chance a copy of the sheet music for fiddlers green that you can e mail ne?
Thanks Richard
I don't think green beer has anything to do with Ireland, nor with Irish Traditional Music; the notion of green beer strikes me as an intensely marketing-oriented idea, the sort of thing that could only come from an American "Irish" pub. And tinted Guinness is simply an affront to everything sacred.
My understanding is that St. Patrick's Day is a much bigger deal in America than in Ireland.
For St. Patrick's Day do like the Irish do, go to church. As a home brewer and avid beer drinker, as opposed to the yuppie haute-brew poser snobs, I know of no brewed beverage from soy sauce to ginger ale that is green and any that are presented that way should be turned over to the authorities as evidence of a crime. Guinness is an appropriate beverage, in its natural state, for any occassion at any time of the day. Want to get really Celtic? Try celebrating Samhain, Imbolc, Beltaine, and Lughnasa. Not only are they real Gaelic holidays, they fall in between all the Christian holidays nearly doubling the occassions for drinking the untinted(tainted?) beer of your choice.
Gee, I didn't think Bryan was being serious when he made the green beer comment--seems he was being quite "tongue-in-cheek". Maybe I was wrong judging from the reactions here to his post.
Maybe instead of ignoring St. Pat's day entirely, AOG, one could use the occasion to celebrate all things Irish (here in the U.S., anyway) and maybe, if one is pagan, point out that St. Patrick drove the pagans (symbolized by snakes) out of Ireland. But then, Bryan may not want to offend his Christian patrons....
The kind folks who frequent this site focus on Irish Traditional dance music. Most have broad interests and great experience in a wealth of musical styles. I'll do my level best to point you in the direction of the following site: http://sniff.numachi.com/~rickheit/dtrad/
Here you will find:
Fiddler's Green
(Composed by John Connolly)
Copyright 1970 for the World, March Music Ltd.
SOF
Which 'Fiddler's Green'? Do you mean the one where 'Fishermen go if they don't go to hell'? I have two different versions of the lyrics to that, but if you mean 'Fiddler's Green (Cavalry)' I can't help you there.
Ok no green beer fiddles etc, What a miserable lot of traditionalists whats wrong with a bit of
blarney? and yes here in Australia as in America St Pats day is huge. Bit of info, fiddlers green
refers to the sagasco sea (sea of seaweed) where seamen were becalmed. Good place for a
session.
GREEN BEER
1eyedrop of green food colouring
1pint of good aussie ale
mix to required greenness
drink
lighten up and enjoy the day
1 pint of good ale, Aussie or otherwise
drink
lighten up and enjoy the day
This has the benefit of requiring no food colouring, no extra effort nor any of the overwhelmning naffness that helps to Disneyfy the world. Remember: there's a big difference between blarney and bullshit. [and it's okay, I AM grinning when I say that]
Hey - dye your cheapest nastiest beer green. If you don't have any nasty beer, buy some for the occasion. Those who buy the green beer deserve it. ;) Have a great time and best of luck to ya Bryan.
The postings on this site are getting more surreal as I read through them. First there were some serious musical heads, then I've come across wanna-be fakers, and now green beer.
There must be a zillion Fiddler's Green bars in the world and I've been in a few. The implication of the name is Irish music - particularly song. Forget the green beer and the other "stage Irish" malarcy. Get some good musicans and singers in and fill them with beer - don't forget to pay them as you've only providing the lubricant initially. Let it go loud and raucous. Encourage the punters to give an auld song and make sure the musicians let them do so periodically. It's a punter's day afterall. Give free coffee for once in your life to serious drinkers who will contribute to the crack - so that they can last the pace. Throw on some free snacks. Dust off and get out every single malt that you have or can beg, steal, or borrow. Pull lots of unadulterated Guinness slow and easy and let it settle at three quarters up in plain view. Recommend Baileys for the non-Guinness fraternity, whatever they fancy for the rest, and encourage a wide-ranging conversation at the bar - who cares about the national language spoken.
When the musicans / singers take a break keep the atmosphere going with recorded music but not too loud as Paddy likes to talk. We all love Christy Moore, Planxty, De Danann, Clannad, etc., on Paddy's day. Under no conditions play Van morrison (Van is great in other circumstances). Take a few photos before folks get too drunk and pin them on the wall for future reference.
Do NOT close early or with short notice. Pass out business cards galore. Rake in the money. GA, I want to be there already.
All the above Derry sounds like one of our monthly sessions we also supply a place
to throw a swag down and breakfast is free. Green beer was never an option just a
passing thought. There is nothing better to end an evening than with boisterous full on
unaccompanied singing How many evenings end with Wild Mountain Tyne and Farricgurgus.
"And as for the Irish now theres a strange crew with hands in their pockets and F--- all to
do. They stand at the bar they sing and they shout and talk about things they know F--- all
about" anon (boy has anon got a lot to answer for)
I have played in a fake Irish folk band for many years on March 17 to a green beer drinking crowd and we have a lot of fun with Robbie O'Connell's song. "You're Not Irish" .
Chorus goes something like this..." You're not Irish you can't be Irish, you don't know Danny Boy. Or Tura Lura Lura, or even Irish Eyes. You've got a helluva nerve to say you've come from Ireland. So cut out all the nonsense and sing McNamara's Band." The people never get it, of course, and end up requesting all of those songs, and we make them happy by playing Irish Washerwoman at breakneck speed or singing "Wild Rover" or "The Unicorn" for the 10th time.
Hey it's the only gig we get all year, so lighten up.
Fiddlersgreen
Fiddlersgreen
As a publican with TM roots should I paint my fiddle green along with green beer
and tinted guinness for St Pats day. What would be an ideal St Pats? For some
it may be thier first Celtic experience. Its not easy being green.
Delemic
# Posted on March 1st 2003 by Bryan
Re: Fiddlersgreen
Hello.
I am a new user of the session. I am an English accordian player living in Italy. Have you got by any chance a copy of the sheet music for fiddlers green that you can e mail ne?
Thanks Richard
# Posted on March 2nd 2003 by panting
Re: Fiddlersgreen
I don't think green beer has anything to do with Ireland, nor with Irish Traditional Music; the notion of green beer strikes me as an intensely marketing-oriented idea, the sort of thing that could only come from an American "Irish" pub. And tinted Guinness is simply an affront to everything sacred.
My understanding is that St. Patrick's Day is a much bigger deal in America than in Ireland.
---Michael B.
# Posted on March 2nd 2003 by MichaelBolton
Re: Fiddlersgreen
For St. Patrick's Day do like the Irish do, go to church. As a home brewer and avid beer drinker, as opposed to the yuppie haute-brew poser snobs, I know of no brewed beverage from soy sauce to ginger ale that is green and any that are presented that way should be turned over to the authorities as evidence of a crime. Guinness is an appropriate beverage, in its natural state, for any occassion at any time of the day. Want to get really Celtic? Try celebrating Samhain, Imbolc, Beltaine, and Lughnasa. Not only are they real Gaelic holidays, they fall in between all the Christian holidays nearly doubling the occassions for drinking the untinted(tainted?) beer of your choice.
Slainte
AOG
# Posted on March 2nd 2003 by AOG
Re: Fiddlersgreen
Gee, I didn't think Bryan was being serious when he made the green beer comment--seems he was being quite "tongue-in-cheek". Maybe I was wrong judging from the reactions here to his post.
Maybe instead of ignoring St. Pat's day entirely, AOG, one could use the occasion to celebrate all things Irish (here in the U.S., anyway) and maybe, if one is pagan, point out that St. Patrick drove the pagans (symbolized by snakes) out of Ireland. But then, Bryan may not want to offend his Christian patrons....
# Posted on March 2nd 2003 by Andee
Re: Fiddlersgreen
Hello Rrichard,
The kind folks who frequent this site focus on Irish Traditional dance music. Most have broad interests and great experience in a wealth of musical styles. I'll do my level best to point you in the direction of the following site:
http://sniff.numachi.com/~rickheit/dtrad/
Here you will find:
Fiddler's Green
(Composed by John Connolly)
Copyright 1970 for the World, March Music Ltd.
SOF
Peace,
Gra5ity
# Posted on March 2nd 2003 by Gra5ity
Re: Fiddlersgreen
Which 'Fiddler's Green'? Do you mean the one where 'Fishermen go if they don't go to hell'? I have two different versions of the lyrics to that, but if you mean 'Fiddler's Green (Cavalry)' I can't help you there.
James
# Posted on March 2nd 2003 by James Brendan
Re: Fiddlersgreen
Ok no green beer fiddles etc, What a miserable lot of traditionalists whats wrong with a bit of
blarney? and yes here in Australia as in America St Pats day is huge. Bit of info, fiddlers green
refers to the sagasco sea (sea of seaweed) where seamen were becalmed. Good place for a
session.
GREEN BEER
1eyedrop of green food colouring
1pint of good aussie ale
mix to required greenness
drink
lighten up and enjoy the day
# Posted on March 2nd 2003 by Bryan
Re: Fiddlersgreen
EFFORT-SAVING BEER
1 pint of good ale, Aussie or otherwise
drink
lighten up and enjoy the day
This has the benefit of requiring no food colouring, no extra effort nor any of the overwhelmning naffness that helps to Disneyfy the world. Remember: there's a big difference between blarney and bullshit. [and it's okay, I AM grinning when I say that]
---Michael B.
# Posted on March 3rd 2003 by MichaelBolton
Re: Fiddlersgreen
Hey - dye your cheapest nastiest beer green. If you don't have any nasty beer, buy some for the occasion. Those who buy the green beer deserve it. ;) Have a great time and best of luck to ya Bryan.
# Posted on March 3rd 2003 by Mark Cordova
Re: Fiddlersgreen
The postings on this site are getting more surreal as I read through them. First there were some serious musical heads, then I've come across wanna-be fakers, and now green beer.
There must be a zillion Fiddler's Green bars in the world and I've been in a few. The implication of the name is Irish music - particularly song. Forget the green beer and the other "stage Irish" malarcy. Get some good musicans and singers in and fill them with beer - don't forget to pay them as you've only providing the lubricant initially. Let it go loud and raucous. Encourage the punters to give an auld song and make sure the musicians let them do so periodically. It's a punter's day afterall. Give free coffee for once in your life to serious drinkers who will contribute to the crack - so that they can last the pace. Throw on some free snacks. Dust off and get out every single malt that you have or can beg, steal, or borrow. Pull lots of unadulterated Guinness slow and easy and let it settle at three quarters up in plain view. Recommend Baileys for the non-Guinness fraternity, whatever they fancy for the rest, and encourage a wide-ranging conversation at the bar - who cares about the national language spoken.
When the musicans / singers take a break keep the atmosphere going with recorded music but not too loud as Paddy likes to talk. We all love Christy Moore, Planxty, De Danann, Clannad, etc., on Paddy's day. Under no conditions play Van morrison (Van is great in other circumstances). Take a few photos before folks get too drunk and pin them on the wall for future reference.
Do NOT close early or with short notice. Pass out business cards galore. Rake in the money. GA, I want to be there already.
# Posted on March 6th 2003 by DerryMan
Re: Fiddlersgreen
All the above Derry sounds like one of our monthly sessions we also supply a place
to throw a swag down and breakfast is free. Green beer was never an option just a
passing thought. There is nothing better to end an evening than with boisterous full on
unaccompanied singing How many evenings end with Wild Mountain Tyne and Farricgurgus.
"And as for the Irish now theres a strange crew with hands in their pockets and F--- all to
do. They stand at the bar they sing and they shout and talk about things they know F--- all
about" anon (boy has anon got a lot to answer for)
# Posted on March 6th 2003 by Bryan
Re: Fiddlersgreen
I have played in a fake Irish folk band for many years on March 17 to a green beer drinking crowd and we have a lot of fun with Robbie O'Connell's song. "You're Not Irish" .
Chorus goes something like this..." You're not Irish you can't be Irish, you don't know Danny Boy. Or Tura Lura Lura, or even Irish Eyes. You've got a helluva nerve to say you've come from Ireland. So cut out all the nonsense and sing McNamara's Band." The people never get it, of course, and end up requesting all of those songs, and we make them happy by playing Irish Washerwoman at breakneck speed or singing "Wild Rover" or "The Unicorn" for the 10th time.
Hey it's the only gig we get all year, so lighten up.
# Posted on March 7th 2003 by Charley