It's possible that the lyrics will be published in a song book somewhere but not necessarily with the same melody. There hasn't been a Planxty songbook although it's possible Christy might have something.
You'll also find that many bands and artists will incorporate traditional tunes as part of the song or, even, borrow them for the entire melody. However, we'd need to know what they are called. Is it the actual melodies you are looking for or the entire song details?
You'll find that most people will learn these songs and arrangements by ear and perhaps(better still) interpret them in their own way.
Even when bands and artists have their own songbooks etc, it's still only the basics.
Is this the midi of the basic melody? There are programmes that will do this but it really has to be a "single" melody.
When you have lyrics, other arrangements etc, this complicates the issue.
I see Michael's point too but it can sometimes be more difficult to learn a tune from a "band arrangement" as there's often quite a lot going on.
However, if you have simple melody on "a midi", I don't see why you need the dots.
there's also a song book by planxty
..I don't know if it's still available
..with the songs little musgrave and as i rouved out..
..I'll look it up when I'm home
"The songs of Planxty" Mews Music Ltd, 1976.
No ISBN number and presumably long out of print. Has both the Andy and Christy version of "As I roved out".
I am hard of hearing and find it very hard to play by ear. usually give up and go back to dots. once I have the basic melody I can then add ornamentation ect.
Finale (notation software) converts MIDI to notation, but the price is high - at least for the full version. Finale Songwriter is reported read and write midi files and costs about $45 (Amazon.com).
Other less expensive notation software is able to do this too. You might look at Myriad's site -> Melody Assistant is a cheap alternative. I think it will do what you want. The forever license use to be around $15.
There are probably other choices out there as well. You might check out various notation packages and see which ones import MIDI files and suit your purposes otherwise.
Unfortunately, not everyone is able to play by ear, I wish I bloody could, would make life easier ! and even the Halle use the dots, and probably they are amongst the finest musicians on earth ! so at least I`m in good company !!!!!!!!
I give up !
I give up !
Anyone know where I can get the dots for "As I roved out" (Andy Irvine version) and "The ballad of little musgrave" (Christie) ?
Oh and "O`Dwyer of the glen" ?
All off the Planxty dvd.
# Posted on June 22nd 2007 by tony b
Re: I give up !
Well, you probably won't as these are songs!!
It's possible that the lyrics will be published in a song book somewhere but not necessarily with the same melody. There hasn't been a Planxty songbook although it's possible Christy might have something.
You'll also find that many bands and artists will incorporate traditional tunes as part of the song or, even, borrow them for the entire melody. However, we'd need to know what they are called. Is it the actual melodies you are looking for or the entire song details?
You'll find that most people will learn these songs and arrangements by ear and perhaps(better still) interpret them in their own way.
Even when bands and artists have their own songbooks etc, it's still only the basics.
# Posted on June 22nd 2007 by Johnny Jay
Re: I give up !
There is a "Christy Moore songbook" available on Amazon and probably elsewhere but I don't know its contents.
http://www.amazon.com/Christy-Moore-Songbook/dp/0863220630
# Posted on June 22nd 2007 by Johnny Jay
Re: I give up !
This may help
http://www.mudcat.org/threads.cfm
# Posted on June 22nd 2007 by Gromit
Re: I give up !
Found a midi of `as i roved out` are there any programmes that convert midi to dots ? or am i being silly ?
# Posted on June 22nd 2007 by tony b
Re: I give up !
If you've got the dvd, why do you need the dots?
# Posted on June 22nd 2007 by ...
Re: I give up !
Is this the midi of the basic melody? There are programmes that will do this but it really has to be a "single" melody.
When you have lyrics, other arrangements etc, this complicates the issue.
I see Michael's point too but it can sometimes be more difficult to learn a tune from a "band arrangement" as there's often quite a lot going on.
However, if you have simple melody on "a midi", I don't see why you need the dots.
# Posted on June 22nd 2007 by Johnny Jay
Re: I give up !
there's also a song book by planxty
..I don't know if it's still available
..with the songs little musgrave and as i rouved out..
..I'll look it up when I'm home
# Posted on June 22nd 2007 by lea h
Re: I give up !
Thanks, Lea. I hadn't realised that Planxty had a songbook too.
However, I'm not exactly sure what Tony is looking for here. The actual songs or the tunes/melodies of the songs?
If the latter, then the melodies in the song might not be exactly what is played or, at least, only in a very basic form.
# Posted on June 22nd 2007 by Johnny Jay
Re: I give up !
Hey Tony B, check out music master works. It shows midi files as dots
# Posted on June 22nd 2007 by session savage
Re: I give up !
as i roved out is in padraig carrol's mandolin book. both are in christy's book.
# Posted on June 22nd 2007 by molloy
Re: I give up !
"The songs of Planxty" Mews Music Ltd, 1976.
No ISBN number and presumably long out of print. Has both the Andy and Christy version of "As I roved out".
# Posted on June 22nd 2007 by David50
Re: I give up !
Just play the tune, what do you need dots for, says a poor mandolin player, but even I can play songs.
# Posted on June 23rd 2007 by bodhran bliss
Re: I give up !
Thanks mate. And for once, I'm glad you're on my side
# Posted on June 23rd 2007 by ...
Re: I give up !
I am hard of hearing and find it very hard to play by ear. usually give up and go back to dots. once I have the basic melody I can then add ornamentation ect.
# Posted on June 24th 2007 by tony b
Re: I give up !
Finale (notation software) converts MIDI to notation, but the price is high - at least for the full version. Finale Songwriter is reported read and write midi files and costs about $45 (Amazon.com).
http://www.codamusic.com/
http://www.amazon.com/MakeMusic-MM0010-Finale-SongWriter/dp/B0009RENAW
Other less expensive notation software is able to do this too. You might look at Myriad's site -> Melody Assistant is a cheap alternative. I think it will do what you want. The forever license use to be around $15.
http://www.myriad-online.com/en/index.htm
There are probably other choices out there as well. You might check out various notation packages and see which ones import MIDI files and suit your purposes otherwise.
# Posted on June 24th 2007 by rob zouk
Re: I give up !
Well, tony b, at least you have an excuse.
# Posted on June 26th 2007 by bodhran bliss
Re: I give up !
Unfortunately, not everyone is able to play by ear, I wish I bloody could, would make life easier ! and even the Halle use the dots, and probably they are amongst the finest musicians on earth ! so at least I`m in good company !!!!!!!!
Thnks for everyones comments
# Posted on June 27th 2007 by tony b