The skin on my bodhran is beginning to show stress from the dry air. What is the best way to condition it? (I'm not open to beer or other oddities.) It's an Alfonso drum.
Ring a bell, every time you feed it. After a while it will associate the sound of the bell with food, and then, whenever it dries out, you just ring the bell and it will salivate...
Linda,
If you keep it in one of those zippered carrying bags, you might try using this cheap, homemade humidifier...I keep 2 of them in my mandolin case.
Drill holes in the top of a plastic, traveling soap case, then outfit with a moist sponge...you could also use a film cannister with the holes drilled all around the side...but I find it's too small to get the humidity levels I want.
You will need to check it every other day or so, to make sure the sponge hasn't dried out.
I've been told, that in modern day housing, central heating is the worst thing that ever happened to wooden flutes, as due to the almost constant higher air temperature, there's less water vapour in the air (ie there's lower humidity). I would extrapolate that theory to bodhrans, thus, not only keep it well away from the radiator, but if possible in a non-centrally heated part of the house.
Thanks, Greenman.
It's tight within minutes of my taking it out of the case.
Playing it takes constant adjustment in this winter weather.
But, what worries me is that the skin itself is flaking or peeling on the back. I've never seen that happen before. I've only played this one a year so wearing out is not the problem.
Any thoughts?
I wish training could take care of it, Ottery :^) "Here, little bodhran, here boy. Sit. Stay. Wet."
Linda, do you have a humidifier in your home? Even if you can't get the humidity up to 50%, 35% is a lot better than 20%. AND, do the humidifier in case thing that Loralyn suggested (or buy a "dampit" in a music instrument store).
You're in Chicago, right? I'm outside of Detroit and I'm having terrible dryness problems with my instruments as well. This winter in the midwest has been a killer, I have to work hard to keep a 30% rel humidity level in my instrument cabinet. I went out a bought the biggest, meanest whole-house humidifier they make and it is still not nearly keeping up with this lethal weather.
I keep my mandolins and fiddles in a glass-fronted cabinet and I've also been using soaked sponges in Tupperware boxes because they seem to do a better job than the little instrument case humidifiers you can buy (e.g. Dampit), which have very little surface area compared to a 3.5" x 5" x .5" household sponge. This winter I've had to resoak them just about every day.
Why not contact the Albert himself. I know he would want to know if there was a problem with one of his drums. When I purchased mine he had a skin conditioner for his drums. BTW, if you call him, be ready for a conversation.
Phone: 214.327.4733
alfonso@isource.net
alfonso@waymark.net
www.celticmusic.com/alfonso_bodhrans/
You're right, Glauber. And, with no humidifier at all in the house, it's bad. I'm trying to decide if I have to install a $600 top of the line furnace humidifier or if a $350 one would humidify the house enough. I'm trying to make a decision without knowing the facts. Oh, well...it sounds like the lack of a furnace humidifier is a big part of the problem, huh?
Glad to hear, Scott, that you've identified the problem as a Midwest problem. It gives me a broader perspective here.
I need to do damage control here quickly with creams and humidity.
My fear: I hope it's not too late! Thank you one and all. :^)
Linda, a $50 room humidifier (Walmart, Menards, Home Depot, etc.) will do fine if you make sure to keep your instruments in that room when not in use, and keep the door closed. Get something that takes at least 6 or 7gallons of water and you'll only have to fill it every other day or so.
See you at Nevin's, Chief O'Niell's, The Abbey, Cullens, ???
I had one of these $35 humidifiers, but it didn't cut the mustard. It took 3 days to raise the humidity from 20% to 22% and never went beyond that. But someone in the woodenflute list said he had better results with a *vaporizer* (different from humidifier, it expells warm vapour). Fell free to try these things, they're not too expesnsive and seem to work in certain situations. A really good free-standing humidifier, Venta Airwasher, will cost you $200-$300 anyway.
The problem with most of the free standing ones is that you have to add a lot of water (like 4 gallons a day) to the air to make a difference. Most of the cheaper ones just don't have that much capacity.
I ended up biting the bullet and installing a $500 furnace humidifier, and that is working. I have about 35% to 38% now all the time. Still not as good as i'd like, but you can't drive it higher than this in the winter without creating a lot of condensation in your windows. Before the humidifier, i would constantly wake up with dry throat, as if i had been swallowing sand at night, now that doesn't happen anymore.
I'd call the different furnace places in your area, shop around, the prices can vary a lot. The humidifier i installed usually sells for about $700, but i got it for $500 including labor and parts because it was on sale. Since we're already in the middle of the winter, some places are doing sales to get some business going.
Keeping the drum skin in good condition in the first place protects the drum and allows it to be tuned easier. Using a lanolin based product like Lubriderm has kept my drums in top condition. Avoid dubbin, as it has dulling properties to skin and sound. Alfonso drums are notorious for going dry. It is important to condition this brand of drum on a regular basis. I would suggest AT LEAST once a month. After using a lanolin based lotion (you can use it on the back or front of the skin), let the bodhran air dry in a room with average temperature for a day or so. Keep checking it to see how it is absorbing the lotion. You don't want the drum drying too quickly. Allow the drum to absorb the lotion at an even pace. Don't leave globs of lotion on the skin. Rub it in as you would do on your own skin. Give it a couple of coatings at the beginning of the process about one minute in between each coat. If you use this process, don't also use a humidifier (I don't suggest using one anyway). Your drum will be too loose. Good luck.
The Cooperman Fife & Drum Co. recently told me not to use Lubriderm or similar product, although so many other people have recommended it that I can't figure out why not.
The Cooperman folk recommend laying the drum face down on a hot wash cloth for a few moments.
Glauber, I've had good luck with an 8 gallon humidifier. I can keep the humidity at 35-40 percent (this time of year), but only in one room and only if I leave the door closed (except for exit and entry .
One reason why I have had luck with a room humidifier may be that my house does not have forced air heat, it has radiant heat. So the heated air is not circulated, it stays in the room. Perhaps closing off the cold air return in a given room would help??
You're lucky if your house is at 20% humidity before you try to humidify it. My house (an hour north of Chicago) has been at 5% for at least the past 3-4 weeks, except for the humidified room.
Yowza! My house was at about 20% (occasionally dipping down to 10%) and that was already pretty unpleasant. I think you're right, the fact that you have radiant heat probably helped -- i have forced air. 8-gallon is pretty big, and i'm sure that helped too; the one that didn't work for me was just 1 gallon, and i refilled it twice a day. In my in-laws apartment, with radiant heat, i had good results using special water containers that hang on the radiator, to evaporate the water (raised RH from 20% to 30%).
All measurements are according to a cheapo hygro/thermometer that i got from Radio Shack for about $20. Now i'm at 35%-40% in all rooms in my home, according to the same "precision" measurement instrument.When i got this house, it had a broken down humidifier in it; i replaced that with a more modern unit. It was expensive, but i'm glad i did it.
Not that Cooperman knows anything about good bodhrans, but I believe they were talking about a quick fix, whereas I was talking about long term conditioning. You'll have less of a need for a "hot wash cloth" if you condition your bodhran regularly in the first place. Don't put Lubriderm or what have you on just before you play. There is nothing worse than playing a greasy skin. And actually a COLD wash cloth would be better for a tighter skin.
Most of the bodhran players I know just carry a sort of plant spray thing around with them, though I must say that in my experience the better the player, the less faffing around with sprays, and the more good drumming.
But I love the idea of the Eight Gallon Humidifier. I'd like to see a drum player turn up at a session with one of those.
"Is there a place i can plug this in? Hey, you with the flute, could you move please? I need to have the drum next to the humidifier. Pardon me, excuse me." Heh.
I'd give Albert a call about that. He does recommend loosening the head when you put it in the case, so that MAY have an effect if you rarely do that. I do remember him saying that certain raw skins perform better in different climates (for instance a customer from Arizona might get a thicker skin than customer from Ireland).
Anyway, I've said too much since I have no earthly idea how the damn things work. So, give Albert a call and I'm sure he'll do what he can to make it right.
I believe the initial question was from Linda. If she gets help out of my comments (some other's comments just don't pertain to anything), I've done my job. Ottery is right about the better the player, the less faffing around with sprays. Hope I've helped despite some foolish remarks, Linda.
Peggy Kinnane's, Tusong, in Arlington Heights! Going into the city is too difficult for me to do it very often, although I was at the Old Town School of Folk Music yesterday for a gig--playing for dancers. I'd enjoy doing a session with you sometime. Hope we land in the same spot eventually.
One of these Wednesday nights I'll show up at Kerrypiper, Glauber, and I'll finally be able to shake your hand. Kate keeps trying to get me down there. By the way, email me and let me know who you found around here to put in a humidifier, please. That's a good price.
As a matter of fact, it would be a kick if we Chicago-types picked a pub and all converged at its session sometime. Then you could all show up with your various answers to my problem--different sized humidifiers, vaporizors, wash cloths, atomizers, and creams in hand and tell the leader you're all waiting for the bodhran player to arrive! lol
(I'd want photos of that! :^D )
ooooommmmmm! I've got the answers to my problem now.
Okay, now, certain members are getting punchy and goofy ! :^D lol
When I play, it's at Peggy Kinanne's because the time is convenient--Sunday afternoons--and, it's in the 'burbs--Arlington Heights. I love the city but parking can be a royal pain.
*getting* punchy and goofy? I've been that way a looong time. Besides, you say it like it's an insult... (reminds me of LongNote's story about Kevin Burke and the fiddle contest judges .
Here in the desert Southwest, dryness is a way of life. Using water is only a short term solution that will eventually make the skin even drier than before. I have been building bodhrans here for several years now and after many trials, I have settled on a product by Kiwi, the shoe polish company. I use their paste "mink oil" (not the liquid). rub it in every 4-6 weeks on both inside and outside, wipe off the excess after allowing a reasonable amount of time for it to absorb. I find that this keeps the skin soft and improves the tone. You can pick it up at any Walmart or Kmart type of store. Good Luck. Len
Saw Albert last night and mentioned your post. I was then bombarded by questions such as, "Where does she live?", "Did she buy it from me?", "What is the skin doing?", "Is she tuning it down?", "Is she upset with the drum?". So, PLEASE drop him an email. He won't let me alone otherwise.
Mink oil paste. One who lives in the desert would know. Thanks, Irheaume.
And, Albert's agitation sounds serious. Guess I'd better bother him and "ease his pain" (Field of Dreams quote). How'd you 'run into' him? You live in Texas, too?
Naw, I'd say it was closer to The Chapel of Ren and Stimpy, or possibly that cheese-worshipping cult, Brethren and Cistern of the Wallace and Grommit....
Linda, perhaps I'll get over to the Arl. Hhts. session one of these days. I used to get to the Curragh session at Woodfield occasionally but stopped going when Chris B. move over to Peggy K.'s. It's just a bit off the beaten track for me.
Are we into Gregorian chant now? "Dominus vobiscum...et cum happy, joy joy!".
Naw, Glauber. When Chris and Davey moved it to Peggy's we all just moved as a bunch--groupies and all. But, I have heard rumors that the owners were thinking of starting a session there again, but I don't know for sure if it got off the ground. You'd have to call.
Wish it were still there, Tunsong, it was more convenient for me, too.
Tusong, Glauber: if you ever plan on a stop at Peggy's give me a heads up and I'll head out that way, too. I need a little motivation to get myself up and out to the pub in this c-o-l-d weather.
bodhranaii
bodhranaii
The skin on my bodhran is beginning to show stress from the dry air. What is the best way to condition it? (I'm not open to beer or other oddities.) It's an Alfonso drum.
# Posted on February 8th 2003 by linda
Re: bodhranaii
Ring a bell, every time you feed it. After a while it will associate the sound of the bell with food, and then, whenever it dries out, you just ring the bell and it will salivate...
# Posted on February 8th 2003 by Ottery
Re: bodhranaii
Aaargh, ottery.... LOL
# Posted on February 8th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: bodhranaii
Linda,
If you keep it in one of those zippered carrying bags, you might try using this cheap, homemade humidifier...I keep 2 of them in my mandolin case.
Drill holes in the top of a plastic, traveling soap case, then outfit with a moist sponge...you could also use a film cannister with the holes drilled all around the side...but I find it's too small to get the humidity levels I want.
You will need to check it every other day or so, to make sure the sponge hasn't dried out.
# Posted on February 8th 2003 by Loralyn
Re: bodhranaii
A couple of friends of mine use a simple little atomiser for a very fine spray of good old H2O.
# Posted on February 8th 2003 by breandan
Re: bodhranaii
I've been told, that in modern day housing, central heating is the worst thing that ever happened to wooden flutes, as due to the almost constant higher air temperature, there's less water vapour in the air (ie there's lower humidity). I would extrapolate that theory to bodhrans, thus, not only keep it well away from the radiator, but if possible in a non-centrally heated part of the house.
# Posted on February 8th 2003 by Alf Tupper
Re: bodhranaii
Hello Linda! Sorry to hear about your bodhrán...what sort of stress is it showing? Is it getting too tight or is it showing wear-and-tear?
# Posted on February 8th 2003 by greenman
Re: bodhranaii
Thanks, Greenman.
It's tight within minutes of my taking it out of the case.
Playing it takes constant adjustment in this winter weather.
But, what worries me is that the skin itself is flaking or peeling on the back. I've never seen that happen before. I've only played this one a year so wearing out is not the problem.
Any thoughts?
I wish training could take care of it, Ottery :^) "Here, little bodhran, here boy. Sit. Stay. Wet."
# Posted on February 8th 2003 by linda
Re: bodhranaii
Linda, do you have a humidifier in your home? Even if you can't get the humidity up to 50%, 35% is a lot better than 20%. AND, do the humidifier in case thing that Loralyn suggested (or buy a "dampit" in a music instrument store).
# Posted on February 8th 2003 by glauber
Re: bodhranaii
Linda,
You're in Chicago, right? I'm outside of Detroit and I'm having terrible dryness problems with my instruments as well. This winter in the midwest has been a killer, I have to work hard to keep a 30% rel humidity level in my instrument cabinet. I went out a bought the biggest, meanest whole-house humidifier they make and it is still not nearly keeping up with this lethal weather.
I keep my mandolins and fiddles in a glass-fronted cabinet and I've also been using soaked sponges in Tupperware boxes because they seem to do a better job than the little instrument case humidifiers you can buy (e.g. Dampit), which have very little surface area compared to a 3.5" x 5" x .5" household sponge. This winter I've had to resoak them just about every day.
# Posted on February 8th 2003 by ScottC
Re: bodhranaii
Why not contact the Albert himself. I know he would want to know if there was a problem with one of his drums. When I purchased mine he had a skin conditioner for his drums. BTW, if you call him, be ready for a conversation.
Phone: 214.327.4733
alfonso@isource.net
alfonso@waymark.net
www.celticmusic.com/alfonso_bodhrans/
# Posted on February 8th 2003 by McBodhran
Re: bodhranaii
You're right, Glauber. And, with no humidifier at all in the house, it's bad. I'm trying to decide if I have to install a $600 top of the line furnace humidifier or if a $350 one would humidify the house enough. I'm trying to make a decision without knowing the facts. Oh, well...it sounds like the lack of a furnace humidifier is a big part of the problem, huh?
Glad to hear, Scott, that you've identified the problem as a Midwest problem. It gives me a broader perspective here.
I need to do damage control here quickly with creams and humidity.
My fear: I hope it's not too late! Thank you one and all. :^)
Linda
# Posted on February 9th 2003 by linda
Re: bodhranaii
Linda, a $50 room humidifier (Walmart, Menards, Home Depot, etc.) will do fine if you make sure to keep your instruments in that room when not in use, and keep the door closed. Get something that takes at least 6 or 7gallons of water and you'll only have to fill it every other day or so.
See you at Nevin's, Chief O'Niell's, The Abbey, Cullens, ???
# Posted on February 9th 2003 by Tusong200
Humidifier
I had one of these $35 humidifiers, but it didn't cut the mustard. It took 3 days to raise the humidity from 20% to 22% and never went beyond that. But someone in the woodenflute list said he had better results with a *vaporizer* (different from humidifier, it expells warm vapour). Fell free to try these things, they're not too expesnsive and seem to work in certain situations. A really good free-standing humidifier, Venta Airwasher, will cost you $200-$300 anyway.
The problem with most of the free standing ones is that you have to add a lot of water (like 4 gallons a day) to the air to make a difference. Most of the cheaper ones just don't have that much capacity.
I ended up biting the bullet and installing a $500 furnace humidifier, and that is working. I have about 35% to 38% now all the time. Still not as good as i'd like, but you can't drive it higher than this in the winter without creating a lot of condensation in your windows. Before the humidifier, i would constantly wake up with dry throat, as if i had been swallowing sand at night, now that doesn't happen anymore.
I'd call the different furnace places in your area, shop around, the prices can vary a lot. The humidifier i installed usually sells for about $700, but i got it for $500 including labor and parts because it was on sale. Since we're already in the middle of the winter, some places are doing sales to get some business going.
# Posted on February 9th 2003 by glauber
Re: bodhranaii
Keeping the drum skin in good condition in the first place protects the drum and allows it to be tuned easier. Using a lanolin based product like Lubriderm has kept my drums in top condition. Avoid dubbin, as it has dulling properties to skin and sound. Alfonso drums are notorious for going dry. It is important to condition this brand of drum on a regular basis. I would suggest AT LEAST once a month. After using a lanolin based lotion (you can use it on the back or front of the skin), let the bodhran air dry in a room with average temperature for a day or so. Keep checking it to see how it is absorbing the lotion. You don't want the drum drying too quickly. Allow the drum to absorb the lotion at an even pace. Don't leave globs of lotion on the skin. Rub it in as you would do on your own skin. Give it a couple of coatings at the beginning of the process about one minute in between each coat. If you use this process, don't also use a humidifier (I don't suggest using one anyway). Your drum will be too loose. Good luck.
# Posted on February 9th 2003 by Aiki
Re: bodhranaii
The Cooperman Fife & Drum Co. recently told me not to use Lubriderm or similar product, although so many other people have recommended it that I can't figure out why not.
The Cooperman folk recommend laying the drum face down on a hot wash cloth for a few moments.
# Posted on February 9th 2003 by cuchulain54
Re: bodhranaii
Glauber, I've had good luck with an 8 gallon humidifier. I can keep the humidity at 35-40 percent (this time of year), but only in one room and only if I leave the door closed (except for exit and entry
.
One reason why I have had luck with a room humidifier may be that my house does not have forced air heat, it has radiant heat. So the heated air is not circulated, it stays in the room. Perhaps closing off the cold air return in a given room would help??
You're lucky if your house is at 20% humidity before you try to humidify it. My house (an hour north of Chicago) has been at 5% for at least the past 3-4 weeks, except for the humidified room.
# Posted on February 10th 2003 by Tusong200
Re: bodhranaii
Yowza! My house was at about 20% (occasionally dipping down to 10%) and that was already pretty unpleasant. I think you're right, the fact that you have radiant heat probably helped -- i have forced air. 8-gallon is pretty big, and i'm sure that helped too; the one that didn't work for me was just 1 gallon, and i refilled it twice a day. In my in-laws apartment, with radiant heat, i had good results using special water containers that hang on the radiator, to evaporate the water (raised RH from 20% to 30%).
All measurements are according to a cheapo hygro/thermometer that i got from Radio Shack for about $20. Now i'm at 35%-40% in all rooms in my home, according to the same "precision" measurement instrument.When i got this house, it had a broken down humidifier in it; i replaced that with a more modern unit. It was expensive, but i'm glad i did it.
# Posted on February 10th 2003 by glauber
Re: bodhranaii
Not that Cooperman knows anything about good bodhrans, but I believe they were talking about a quick fix, whereas I was talking about long term conditioning. You'll have less of a need for a "hot wash cloth" if you condition your bodhran regularly in the first place. Don't put Lubriderm or what have you on just before you play. There is nothing worse than playing a greasy skin. And actually a COLD wash cloth would be better for a tighter skin.
# Posted on February 10th 2003 by Aiki
Re: bodhranaii
What treatment is there for unbridled arrogance? Anything?
# Posted on February 10th 2003 by cuchulain54
Re: bodhranaii
Aye, a cold washcloth works for that as well, but I'll leave it up to you to decide where to apply it.... *chuckle*
# Posted on February 10th 2003 by Will CPT
Re: bodhranaii
Yeah, but then Aiki would tell me I'm using an inferior brand of wash cloth.
# Posted on February 10th 2003 by cuchulain54
Re: bodhranaii
Most of the bodhran players I know just carry a sort of plant spray thing around with them, though I must say that in my experience the better the player, the less faffing around with sprays, and the more good drumming.
But I love the idea of the Eight Gallon Humidifier. I'd like to see a drum player turn up at a session with one of those.
# Posted on February 10th 2003 by Ottery
Re: bodhranaii
"Is there a place i can plug this in? Hey, you with the flute, could you move please? I need to have the drum next to the humidifier. Pardon me, excuse me." Heh.
# Posted on February 10th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: bodhranaii
I'd give Albert a call about that. He does recommend loosening the head when you put it in the case, so that MAY have an effect if you rarely do that. I do remember him saying that certain raw skins perform better in different climates (for instance a customer from Arizona might get a thicker skin than customer from Ireland).
Anyway, I've said too much since I have no earthly idea how the damn things work. So, give Albert a call and I'm sure he'll do what he can to make it right.
# Posted on February 10th 2003 by Caoimghgin
Re: bodhranaii
I believe the initial question was from Linda. If she gets help out of my comments (some other's comments just don't pertain to anything), I've done my job. Ottery is right about the better the player, the less faffing around with sprays. Hope I've helped despite some foolish remarks, Linda.
# Posted on February 10th 2003 by Aiki
Re: bodhranaii
Aiki, go away.
# Posted on February 10th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: bodhranaii
"This is a verrrry serious occasion....ooooommmmmmmmmmm....."
C'mon, say it with me, and no smiling now.
This is a verrry serious occasion....."
# Posted on February 10th 2003 by Will CPT
Re: bodhranaii
Peggy Kinnane's, Tusong, in Arlington Heights! Going into the city is too difficult for me to do it very often, although I was at the Old Town School of Folk Music yesterday for a gig--playing for dancers. I'd enjoy doing a session with you sometime. Hope we land in the same spot eventually.
One of these Wednesday nights I'll show up at Kerrypiper, Glauber, and I'll finally be able to shake your hand. Kate keeps trying to get me down there. By the way, email me and let me know who you found around here to put in a humidifier, please. That's a good price.
As a matter of fact, it would be a kick if we Chicago-types picked a pub and all converged at its session sometime. Then you could all show up with your various answers to my problem--different sized humidifiers, vaporizors, wash cloths, atomizers, and creams in hand and tell the leader you're all waiting for the bodhran player to arrive! lol
(I'd want photos of that! :^D )
ooooommmmmm! I've got the answers to my problem now.
# Posted on February 10th 2003 by linda
Re: bodhranaii
Linda, what session do you normally go to?
ommmmmm!
Mu!
# Posted on February 10th 2003 by glauber
Oh, and i sent you the phone number of the humidifier guys by email. If you didn't get it, it's http://www.airheatinc.com
# Posted on February 10th 2003 by glauber
Re: bodhranaii
that'd be www.airheatinc.coooooommmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......
# Posted on February 10th 2003 by Will CPT
Re: bodhranaii
Okay, now, certain members are getting punchy and goofy ! :^D lol
When I play, it's at Peggy Kinanne's because the time is convenient--Sunday afternoons--and, it's in the 'burbs--Arlington Heights. I love the city but parking can be a royal pain.
Got your email, too. Thanks!
# Posted on February 11th 2003 by linda
Re: bodhranaii
*getting* punchy and goofy? I've been that way a looong time. Besides, you say it like it's an insult... (reminds me of LongNote's story about Kevin Burke and the fiddle contest judges
.
# Posted on February 11th 2003 by Will CPT
Re: bodhranaii
Here in the desert Southwest, dryness is a way of life. Using water is only a short term solution that will eventually make the skin even drier than before. I have been building bodhrans here for several years now and after many trials, I have settled on a product by Kiwi, the shoe polish company. I use their paste "mink oil" (not the liquid). rub it in every 4-6 weeks on both inside and outside, wipe off the excess after allowing a reasonable amount of time for it to absorb. I find that this keeps the skin soft and improves the tone. You can pick it up at any Walmart or Kmart type of store. Good Luck. Len
# Posted on February 11th 2003 by lrheaume
Re: bodhranaii
Hey Linda,
Saw Albert last night and mentioned your post. I was then bombarded by questions such as, "Where does she live?", "Did she buy it from me?", "What is the skin doing?", "Is she tuning it down?", "Is she upset with the drum?". So, PLEASE drop him an email. He won't let me alone otherwise.
# Posted on February 12th 2003 by Caoimghgin
Re: bodhranaii
Not at all an insult, Will. Just a spiritual insight. ooooommmmmm!
;-D (Am I keeping a straight face...can't .)
# Posted on February 12th 2003 by linda
Mink oil paste. One who lives in the desert would know. Thanks, Irheaume.
And, Albert's agitation sounds serious. Guess I'd better bother him and "ease his pain" (Field of Dreams quote). How'd you 'run into' him? You live in Texas, too?
# Posted on February 12th 2003 by linda
Re: bodhranaii
Yes, that'd be my church, Our Lady of Punchy and Goofy. You should see how we do confessions and baptisms....
# Posted on February 12th 2003 by Will CPT
Re: bodhranaii
Is that similar to the Cathedral of Itchy and Scratchy?
# Posted on February 12th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: bodhranaii
Naw, I'd say it was closer to The Chapel of Ren and Stimpy, or possibly that cheese-worshipping cult, Brethren and Cistern of the Wallace and Grommit....
# Posted on February 13th 2003 by Will CPT
Re: bodhranaii
Ah yes -- brethren and sistren, let us cheese! Wensleydale, for preference.
# Posted on February 13th 2003 by Zina Lee
P.s.
Great, now I'm going to have "Happy Happy Joy Joy" stuck in my head all day long. Thanks, Harmon.
# Posted on February 13th 2003 by Zina Lee
Re: bodhranaii
Linda, perhaps I'll get over to the Arl. Hhts. session one of these days. I used to get to the Curragh session at Woodfield occasionally but stopped going when Chris B. move over to Peggy K.'s. It's just a bit off the beaten track for me.
# Posted on February 13th 2003 by Tusong200
Curragh
Does that session at the Curragh still exist?
# Posted on February 13th 2003 by glauber
Re: bodhranaii
Are we into Gregorian chant now? "Dominus vobiscum...et cum happy, joy joy!".
Naw, Glauber. When Chris and Davey moved it to Peggy's we all just moved as a bunch--groupies and all. But, I have heard rumors that the owners were thinking of starting a session there again, but I don't know for sure if it got off the ground. You'd have to call.
Wish it were still there, Tunsong, it was more convenient for me, too.
Tusong, Glauber: if you ever plan on a stop at Peggy's give me a heads up and I'll head out that way, too. I need a little motivation to get myself up and out to the pub in this c-o-l-d weather.
# Posted on February 13th 2003 by linda
Re: bodhranaii
Kev, I shot off an email to Albert, just to let you know you should be off the hook soon. :^ )
# Posted on February 13th 2003 by linda