It's not terrible. It might even sound good live where they would kick up the instrumental part of it and make it into a real piece of music. Those synthesized cymbal crescendoes sound awful, though! Why do commercial music producers feel they have to push acoustic instruments way down in the mix like that? The bass is pushed up way too high and you can barely even hear the fiddle. They even monkeyed around with Cathy Jordan's voice, which didn't need anything at all to make it sound good.
I love it that I can rant about stuff like this and people on this website will understand what I'm talking about. I go to concerts with my friends sometimes and they give me weird looks if I have problems with the sound mix...
It is the leprechaun dancing that I find funny more than anything else. Dervish are undoubtedly a fantastic band but this just makes them look daft. Are they used to doing music videos?
NCFA - that must be why all the musos look so self conscious and keep looking at each other sheepishly.
The tune is good, but the lyrics suck ar@e (as they say over here). "The accapella icicles have melted like a cage"? Has it been badly translated from the Swedish? Where was the line "Fondle my buttocks, Sir William"? I'm sure they must have used Monty Python's infamous phrase book for the job.
One thing that will count against them is that most of the judges will be able to speak English. Unlike the nerk who wrote this drivel.
And who are 'they' who are trying to steal the Spring? Is it a diatribe against Genetic Engineering?
Yeah, who are "they", anyway? Maybe it's about global warming?
"the accapella icicles have melted like a cage"? Does it really say that??? I was paying so much attention to the music I didn't really listen to the words. Maybe they should have had Van Morrisson sing it. Nobody can understand what he sings anyway.
Seriously, though, Dervish was the first Irish trad group I ever saw perform. I was mightily impressed by what a class act they were. I hope they can put this, er, unfortunate episode behind them and get back to being themselves.
Jaw droppingly awful - although I did like the line "Some salty nuts" along with an illustration for about ten seconds, just in case you didn't understand.
I'm not sure whether it's supposed to be appeal to the homosexual market - have they studied their demographics and identified a target consumer group, do you think?
Oh my good Lord that UK song is horrifying! I wonder what the other countries' entries sound like. If that's the competition, Dervish can hold their heads high.
Having had the pleasure of hearing Dervish live in a small venue (brilliant and delightful they were!), I'm reluctant to judge them too harshly for this. One feels badly for them, and it's hard to resist making fun, but I certainly wouldn't hold it against them, and wouldn't hesitate to hear them again when pass through town.
Dervish At The Grand Canyon - Is that a bouzouki and an octave mandolin, both being strummed?
And the "live" impression fades somewhat when the musicians stop playing a couple of bars before the music finishes.
Anyway, you'd never be able to decide which song to vote for. And then, you'd need more than one group to be able to form a coalition to actually sing the song ... but none of the groups would be able to decide which of the other groups they would be prepared to sing with.
I guess that with the expense of the Olympics coming up in 2012 the UK can't afford to host Eurovision as well, so have made sure we lose. Straight from the script of good old Father Ted, except that "My lovely horse" was a better song!
'Success' in the Eurovision these days has relatively little to do with the quality of the song/ melody I would have thought. More about the stageshow, perceptions and how big your neighbouring countries and voting blocks are.
I thought they only fried bacon on the old 78 recordings but I could also detect a bit of the crackling here too. I don't know if it's just me but there's a sort of sadness in this song with it's innocent sentiments and sung by a young convent girl which contrasts so vividly with the horrors that were to come to Derry some short years later. The deaths on Bloody Sunday and the lyrics of Phil Coulter's "The Town I loved So Well" were to become more synonymous with this City for a long time afterwards. Anyway, hopefully, we can now put all that behind us as Martin and Big Ian did the business for us yesterday ensuring that there's a better future for everyone in the years ahead.
Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
http://www.eurovision.tv/addons/mediaplayer/video/ire.html
# Posted on May 8th 2007 by Johannes J
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Its realy amazing how the bodhran sounds like a full drum set.
Wink wink<s>
# Posted on May 8th 2007 by dinn2
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
dinn2 - you mean like this?
http://www.celticmusic.com/alfonso_bodhrans/runamok.html
# Posted on May 8th 2007 by RogueFiddler
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Id love to bring that to a session to see the look on the musicians faces as you walked in the door
# Posted on May 8th 2007 by dinn2
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Dervish have improved, the first time I heard this the girl was completely out of tune.
I don't know much about Dervish, and in a way I am glad.
# Posted on May 8th 2007 by bodhran bliss
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Hmmm ... better than I'd feared it might be ...
When did Seamie leave them, btw? Is it recent?
# Posted on May 8th 2007 by benhall.1
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Séamie left Dervish a couple of years ago.
# Posted on May 8th 2007 by Floss the Tethers
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
It's not terrible. It might even sound good live where they would kick up the instrumental part of it and make it into a real piece of music. Those synthesized cymbal crescendoes sound awful, though! Why do commercial music producers feel they have to push acoustic instruments way down in the mix like that? The bass is pushed up way too high and you can barely even hear the fiddle. They even monkeyed around with Cathy Jordan's voice, which didn't need anything at all to make it sound good.
I love it that I can rant about stuff like this and people on this website will understand what I'm talking about. I go to concerts with my friends sometimes and they give me weird looks if I have problems with the sound mix...
# Posted on May 8th 2007 by kennedy
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Ah. Thanks Geoff.
# Posted on May 8th 2007 by benhall.1
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
"They might scare the Blackbird but they cannot stop him sing[sic]". Is this the new euro-english?
# Posted on May 8th 2007 by Backer
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
It is the leprechaun dancing that I find funny more than anything else. Dervish are undoubtedly a fantastic band but this just makes them look daft. Are they used to doing music videos?
# Posted on May 8th 2007 by No Cause For Alarm
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
NCFA - that must be why all the musos look so self conscious and keep looking at each other sheepishly.
The tune is good, but the lyrics suck ar@e (as they say over here). "The accapella icicles have melted like a cage"? Has it been badly translated from the Swedish? Where was the line "Fondle my buttocks, Sir William"? I'm sure they must have used Monty Python's infamous phrase book for the job.
One thing that will count against them is that most of the judges will be able to speak English. Unlike the nerk who wrote this drivel.
And who are 'they' who are trying to steal the Spring? Is it a diatribe against Genetic Engineering?
# Posted on May 8th 2007 by bc_box_player
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Yeah, who are "they", anyway? Maybe it's about global warming?
"the accapella icicles have melted like a cage"? Does it really say that??? I was paying so much attention to the music I didn't really listen to the words. Maybe they should have had Van Morrisson sing it. Nobody can understand what he sings anyway.
# Posted on May 8th 2007 by kennedy
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
I still prefer this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AhKITsvjuY
Seriously, though, Dervish was the first Irish trad group I ever saw perform. I was mightily impressed by what a class act they were. I hope they can put this, er, unfortunate episode behind them and get back to being themselves.
# Posted on May 8th 2007 by mickray
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Jaysus - here's a television "performance" of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TlGREikBRA
kennedy - I think we can see why they mucked around with her voice for the promo.
It'd be a good song to play at a funeral - somehow death would lose it's sting....
# Posted on May 9th 2007 by bc_box_player
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Mind you, here's the British entry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m-ngE570qg
Jaw droppingly awful - although I did like the line "Some salty nuts" along with an illustration for about ten seconds, just in case you didn't understand.
I'm not sure whether it's supposed to be appeal to the homosexual market - have they studied their demographics and identified a target consumer group, do you think?
Truly cheesemongous.
# Posted on May 9th 2007 by bc_box_player
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Oh my.... I had to shut that British entry off after less than a minute - -- YEEEEESSSSHHH!
What the heck was that - 'we're flying into Amsterdam, why don't you catch us if you can' -- ???? Good grief that was bad.
That said, the singing on the Late Late Show was quite different (and not for the better) from the original link...
# Posted on May 9th 2007 by brianc
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Oh my good Lord that UK song is horrifying! I wonder what the other countries' entries sound like. If that's the competition, Dervish can hold their heads high.
# Posted on May 9th 2007 by kennedy
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Having had the pleasure of hearing Dervish live in a small venue (brilliant and delightful they were!), I'm reluctant to judge them too harshly for this. One feels badly for them, and it's hard to resist making fun, but I certainly wouldn't hold it against them, and wouldn't hesitate to hear them again when pass through town.
# Posted on May 9th 2007 by Keith Dubinsky
Re: horse play
where's 'my lovely horse'??
# Posted on May 9th 2007 by biggus dave
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
... running through the field ...
# Posted on May 9th 2007 by benhall.1
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Kinda glad that Scotland isn't independent. I'd shudder to think what we might come up with ourselves.... ;-(
It gets us off the hook, I guess
# Posted on May 9th 2007 by Johannes J
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Dervish At The Grand Canyon - Is that a bouzouki and an octave mandolin, both being strummed?
And the "live" impression fades somewhat when the musicians stop playing a couple of bars before the music finishes.
# Posted on May 9th 2007 by oldstrings
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
John J - You could have been represented by the Loch Ness Monster - it would have trumped Lordi, anyway.
# Posted on May 9th 2007 by nicholas
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Anyway, you'd never be able to decide which song to vote for. And then, you'd need more than one group to be able to form a coalition to actually sing the song ... but none of the groups would be able to decide which of the other groups they would be prepared to sing with.
# Posted on May 9th 2007 by benhall.1
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
I guess that with the expense of the Olympics coming up in 2012 the UK can't afford to host Eurovision as well, so have made sure we lose. Straight from the script of good old Father Ted, except that "My lovely horse" was a better song!
# Posted on May 9th 2007 by bowburner
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
'Success' in the Eurovision these days has relatively little to do with the quality of the song/ melody I would have thought. More about the stageshow, perceptions and how big your neighbouring countries and voting blocks are.
# Posted on May 9th 2007 by the wounded hussar
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Eurovision is all about listening to good old Terry Wogan's comments as he get more and more tipsy on the Baileys
# Posted on May 9th 2007 by bowburner
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Compare and contrast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iueDfDC18E
# Posted on May 9th 2007 by Johannes J
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
I thought they only fried bacon on the old 78 recordings but I could also detect a bit of the crackling here too. I don't know if it's just me but there's a sort of sadness in this song with it's innocent sentiments and sung by a young convent girl which contrasts so vividly with the horrors that were to come to Derry some short years later. The deaths on Bloody Sunday and the lyrics of Phil Coulter's "The Town I loved So Well" were to become more synonymous with this City for a long time afterwards. Anyway, hopefully, we can now put all that behind us as Martin and Big Ian did the business for us yesterday ensuring that there's a better future for everyone in the years ahead.
# Posted on May 9th 2007 by Bannerman
Re: Come back Dana, all is forgiven!
Just to give this great band the credibility the deserve:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oqpPXDwXcA&mode=related&search=
oldstrings: that's a bouzouki and a mandola capoed up to DAEA (actually D#A#E#A# as they play everything a semitone up)
# Posted on May 10th 2007 by farmer barleymow
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The British one is a sure fire winner, has all the old great Eurovision qualities.
# Posted on May 10th 2007 by bodhran bliss