Anyone in the Farmington Hills/Ann Arbor, Mi. area wanting to attend our summer stage school to be a special guest speaker or even a demonstration of this non-performance style medium. Email me back or attend our open house this coming Feb 12th. www.thenextstage.us
And IIig, this is NOt an attempt of shameless advertising...we've paid thousands promoting this event. I wanted to follow through on a promise.
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
what I feel would be interesting to the 100-150 young singers, is to expose them to all styles and forms of musical art. Even I or others don't agree.
You know I respect the music and players, not the philosophy or claim its not a performance. Lets let the youth have a go at it.
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
IIig, you'd most likely be a very good speaker to explain the The Session since you are regarded, by members in here, as a wonderful session host.
I'm looking for your equal within the state of Michigan or Ohio
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Sometimes me and my mates meet down the pub for a chat and a few beers.
We just talk amongst ourselves – and find it a bit amusing when tourists want to take photo’s of us, although we are
devilishly handsome so it’s not that much of a surprise.
We talk about the same old topics most of the time…the odd
time there’s a few new topics.
Be we never say exactly the same thing twice – sometimes
there’s a bit of new input from someone.
Sometimes, someone joins in who doesn’t fully know what
we’re talking about, but so long as they don’t act the maggot
we don’t mind.
We’ve become quite skilful at this chatting lark – it’s great fun (until some starts a song!)
However it’s a not a formal debate.
Some people I know do some public debating – and in fact
give lessons and advice on how to speak in public – fair play
to them, that’s their thing.
Although me and my mates are speaking in a public place –
it’s not public speaking per sae.
In fact, I would think it really really weird if someone asked me
to come along and give a demonstration of we’re doing or to
give a “performance” of our chatting.
Someone who would do that would surely have missed the
point (repeatedly) to do that.
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
The idea of demonstrating a session as proposed is like getting a goldfish out of its tank and putting it on the table to study its swimming technique. Why not organize a bus trip to a local session to study the session in its natural habitat? Buy the musicians a pint so they don't mind the prodding, pointing and note-taking so much .
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Seriously , Seriously...#32, you need to relax. If this upsets you, you must have a very unhappy life, or spouse. Either way, its my thread, take your attitude somewhere else.
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
I wonder what DVDs we could recommend to Bruce so he can get a clue about ITM and the culture that surrounds it. ‘Come West Along the Road’ comes to mind. What else? Suggestions?
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
mickray - nice post.
Wasted on our 'audience', but I think we could even rescue this thread, ignore the audience ... in other words, we might as well hijack it, don't you think?
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Mickray - liked your second clip - but what tunes were they playing ? The one name someone suggested on utube isn't in this tune index.
As for Bruce, he just don't get it. I remember the previous exchanges, he has some idea that a large crowd of punters and lots of money towards him is a sure sign of success; and a community of people who meet together to play music for their own enjoyment amd no financial profit is a sure sign of softness in the head.
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Why are you guys getting so upset - obviously Starting Over doesnt have a clue....just like the other 99.999999999% of the worlds population.
If someone comes to a session and starts acting like that and pushing peoples buttons, choosing to not listen when we try and explain....then my guess is eventually you'd just give up and maybe ignore him?
I was away when the whole first thing happened with Bruce - so I dont know how bad it got......but who cares? On this board - *We* are the majority...for once! Wooohoooo!
PS - anyone heard the new David Jones add in Australia all about going to Ireland and someone obviously from here is playing a jig in the background on the violin (def not a fiddle player). I'd hate to think how much they got paid for that add.....and they obviously dont have a clue - they cant even get the simple jig rhythm going....sad.
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Seems to me... Bruce is offering to show his kids an alternative to the "I wanna be a popstar" idiom of music. Yeah it's paradoxical to hold a demonstration of a session, but I don't see what's wrong with a guest speaker or a video of such.
Is this messageboard so esoteric that we must be rude to anyone who doesn't "get it" 110%?
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Look - as said before and again and again and again - if no one says anything - then no one will understand what is going on....so isnt it better to hear about stuff??? Or would people just rather walk around in ignorant bliss?
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
A guest speaker explaining the history and music of a Session. That video of the brother & sister playing a jig in a classroom ( which was fantastic ) but certainlly a performance when they come to school prepared with instruments and a video camera and a room full of students. Or did they just get up, take out their instruments and start to play in the middle of a school leason? Or maybe, just maybe it was a....wait for it.........Kinda like a 'demonstration'.....?
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
I don't know if the two kids in a classroom (the Breens,) is the best example of the difference between what you're advocating and the activities involved in participating in sessions. Those two kids are extremely gifted and have won All Ireland titles. They are proficient beyond the wildest dreams of many contributors to these threads and their appearance on that clip is a result of Ireland's television network (RTE) filming them for national broadcast in recognition of their profound accomplishment. The activities of most of the members of this board consist of gathering in pubs to celebrate Irish traditional music. No one is competing for a title, and no one is putting on a show. The abilities of the participants vary and everyone is welcome to join in with the merry-making. On the other hand, what you seem to be doing with your school is preparing people to be performers for the stage and competitions like American Idol. These are two completely different universes.
Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Anyone in the Farmington Hills/Ann Arbor, Mi. area wanting to attend our summer stage school to be a special guest speaker or even a demonstration of this non-performance style medium. Email me back or attend our open house this coming Feb 12th. www.thenextstage.us
And IIig, this is NOt an attempt of shameless advertising...we've paid thousands promoting this event. I wanted to follow through on a promise.
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by starting over
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
ha ha, give a demonstration of how not to perform. ha ha
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by llig leahcim
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
thats the plan...wouldn't it be interesting to show performers, musicians who don't want to be witnessed
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by starting over
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
accuracy please ... don't care if they are witnessed.
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by llig leahcim
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
what I feel would be interesting to the 100-150 young singers, is to expose them to all styles and forms of musical art. Even I or others don't agree.
You know I respect the music and players, not the philosophy or claim its not a performance. Lets let the youth have a go at it.
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by starting over
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
IIig, you'd most likely be a very good speaker to explain the The Session since you are regarded, by members in here, as a wonderful session host.
I'm looking for your equal within the state of Michigan or Ohio
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by starting over
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
oh no, not again
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by domnull
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Sometimes me and my mates meet down the pub for a chat and a few beers.
We just talk amongst ourselves – and find it a bit amusing when tourists want to take photo’s of us, although we are
devilishly handsome so it’s not that much of a surprise.
We talk about the same old topics most of the time…the odd
time there’s a few new topics.
Be we never say exactly the same thing twice – sometimes
there’s a bit of new input from someone.
Sometimes, someone joins in who doesn’t fully know what
we’re talking about, but so long as they don’t act the maggot
we don’t mind.
We’ve become quite skilful at this chatting lark – it’s great fun (until some starts a song!)
However it’s a not a formal debate.
Some people I know do some public debating – and in fact
give lessons and advice on how to speak in public – fair play
to them, that’s their thing.
Although me and my mates are speaking in a public place –
it’s not public speaking per sae.
In fact, I would think it really really weird if someone asked me
to come along and give a demonstration of we’re doing or to
give a “performance” of our chatting.
Someone who would do that would surely have missed the
point (repeatedly) to do that.
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by BegF
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
The idea of demonstrating a session as proposed is like getting a goldfish out of its tank and putting it on the table to study its swimming technique. Why not organize a bus trip to a local session to study the session in its natural habitat? Buy the musicians a pint so they don't mind the prodding, pointing and note-taking so much
.
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by ian clark
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
ha ha Beg, brilliant
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by llig leahcim
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
"starting over" is just the right sobriquet for a thread like this, eh?
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by Will CPT
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
give the publicity feck's sake of again ! feckin' idiot oxygen the of don't for
Re-arrange the above phrase to make a reasonable discussion point.
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by benhall.1
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
oops! my finger slipped ...
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by benhall.1
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Seriously, starting over, give it a rest already. You're starting to p*ss me off. Seriously.
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by irishfiddler32
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Seriously , Seriously...#32, you need to relax. If this upsets you, you must have a very unhappy life, or spouse. Either way, its my thread, take your attitude somewhere else.
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by starting over
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Jeremy!
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by jtrout
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Sigh. Sorry, "starting over" you still aren't getting it.
To tie in a nearby thread (Flatley on flute), you are aiming for something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ3HV3hntDg
We prefer something more like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByvBZYvoDkQ
See the difference?
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by mickray
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
This is too surreal to contemplate--talk about different worlds colliding.
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by AlBrown
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
I wonder what DVDs we could recommend to Bruce so he can get a clue about ITM and the culture that surrounds it. ‘Come West Along the Road’ comes to mind. What else? Suggestions?
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by Phantom Button
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
mickray - nice post.
Wasted on our 'audience', but I think we could even rescue this thread, ignore the audience ... in other words, we might as well hijack it, don't you think?
btw, wasn't the Flatley vid excruciating?
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by benhall.1
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
A little too Darwin for some? I'm sure even he was invited into a few diferent camps.
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by starting over
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Mickray - liked your second clip - but what tunes were they playing ? The one name someone suggested on utube isn't in this tune index.
As for Bruce, he just don't get it. I remember the previous exchanges, he has some idea that a large crowd of punters and lots of money towards him is a sure sign of success; and a community of people who meet together to play music for their own enjoyment amd no financial profit is a sure sign of softness in the head.
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by Guernsey Pete
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Pete, re the second clip--not "mine" btw--I don't know the names. But I think I can play them, if you start them. ;>}
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by mickray
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Most important line in the original submission "We've paid thousands promoting this event."
# Posted on February 8th 2007 by Guernsey Pete
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Nice playing by the left-handed fiddler in that second YouTube vid, but the right-handed fiddler in the foreground appears to be noodling.
# Posted on February 9th 2007 by Phantom Button
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Why are you guys getting so upset - obviously Starting Over doesnt have a clue....just like the other 99.999999999% of the worlds population.
If someone comes to a session and starts acting like that and pushing peoples buttons, choosing to not listen when we try and explain....then my guess is eventually you'd just give up and maybe ignore him?
I was away when the whole first thing happened with Bruce - so I dont know how bad it got......but who cares? On this board - *We* are the majority...for once! Wooohoooo!
PS - anyone heard the new David Jones add in Australia all about going to Ireland and someone obviously from here is playing a jig in the background on the violin (def not a fiddle player). I'd hate to think how much they got paid for that add.....and they obviously dont have a clue - they cant even get the simple jig rhythm going....sad.
# Posted on February 9th 2007 by bb
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Seems to me... Bruce is offering to show his kids an alternative to the "I wanna be a popstar" idiom of music. Yeah it's paradoxical to hold a demonstration of a session, but I don't see what's wrong with a guest speaker or a video of such.
Is this messageboard so esoteric that we must be rude to anyone who doesn't "get it" 110%?
# Posted on February 9th 2007 by silver bow
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Look - as said before and again and again and again - if no one says anything - then no one will understand what is going on....so isnt it better to hear about stuff??? Or would people just rather walk around in ignorant bliss?
# Posted on February 9th 2007 by bb
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
"Ignorant Bliss"???!!! Are you taking about that bodhran guy?
# Posted on February 9th 2007 by Phantom Button
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
A guest speaker explaining the history and music of a Session. That video of the brother & sister playing a jig in a classroom ( which was fantastic ) but certainlly a performance when they come to school prepared with instruments and a video camera and a room full of students. Or did they just get up, take out their instruments and start to play in the middle of a school leason? Or maybe, just maybe it was a....wait for it.........Kinda like a 'demonstration'.....?
# Posted on February 9th 2007 by starting over
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
lesson
# Posted on February 9th 2007 by starting over
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
Quantum mechanics springs to mind
# Posted on February 9th 2007 by llig leahcim
Re: Looking for a guest speaker for The Next Stage
I don't know if the two kids in a classroom (the Breens,) is the best example of the difference between what you're advocating and the activities involved in participating in sessions. Those two kids are extremely gifted and have won All Ireland titles. They are proficient beyond the wildest dreams of many contributors to these threads and their appearance on that clip is a result of Ireland's television network (RTE) filming them for national broadcast in recognition of their profound accomplishment. The activities of most of the members of this board consist of gathering in pubs to celebrate Irish traditional music. No one is competing for a title, and no one is putting on a show. The abilities of the participants vary and everyone is welcome to join in with the merry-making. On the other hand, what you seem to be doing with your school is preparing people to be performers for the stage and competitions like American Idol. These are two completely different universes.
# Posted on February 9th 2007 by Phantom Button