Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
A lot of people put tunes in their tunebooks that they plan to learn, instead of that they already know. So tunebook quantities can be deceptive. Also, there are tunes that you know cold, with lots of potential variations, which you could lead off in a session. There are tunes you know pretty well. There are tunes that you could follow if someone else was playing them. For accompanists, there are tunes where you might not be able to play the melody yourself, but you know well enough that you can attach an accompaniment that is specific to the tune. And then there are the tunes that are not in the tunebook, or that you know without a name.
Bottom line, the tunebook on this site is not always a good indicator of what people "know" and "knowing" a tune is not always an either/or proposition.
That being said, the better players usually have many more than 200 tunes under their belt!
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
There are some on site with over 400, but I'm with Al on this... Some are 'fluid', which means that they aren't constant but go through a regular overhall, regularly dropping some and adding others. Some tunebooks have gone down to 0 a few times only to rise from the ashes like a Phoenix...
Oh yeah, and there's the list of own compositions that features in a tunebook or more... I've even seen tunebooks that are perpetually 0, or 1, or less than a baker's dozen...
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
Yes. I can't imagine why anyone would want to add a tune to their tunebook if they already know it. I certainly haven't. Mostly mine are tunes I wanted to learn (or thought I did), or I wanted to check a variation from a tune I knew from elsewhere.
I expect some really great players who visit this site have no tunes in their tunebook. And converesely, some not so hot that have a lot.
I thought I'd prompt a discussion on how people use the tunebook facility.
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
Even there 'pediho', I know that some musician do put tunes they know in their tunbook, like a basic repertoire, or possibly tunes to 'review' / 'revive' ~ along with a few they're considering adding their repertoire... Sometimes it is to check out the transcripts here with the versions they know...
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
It's one part of this site I don't really utilise, although I've got tunes in it. Mainly because my sight reading is nowadays close to non-existent.
That's not to say it is not a good feature. Just that I mostly source tunes from sessions and recordings.
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
I keep a separate offline file with a list of tunes that I know and a list of tunes that I want to learn (tunes move from the latter list to the former, in theory, but sometimes they go the other way too, alas). I tend to add tunes to my tunebook on this site that I have worked on recently.
I think that the tunebook would be even cooler, and would possibly supplant my use of a separate file, with the following features:
1. For each tune, the date when the tune was added to the tune book
2. A comments field for each tune (associated with your tunebook, not the same as the comments that can be posted for a tune that are visible to everyone)
3. The ability to organize the tunebook into folders
If I could choose only one of these it would be #2.
Jeremy, if you are reading this, please realize I am not trying to make you do more work, just expressing an opinion about what would make the tunebook more useful for me
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
Another use ~ I know or, it having already been in discussion, at least one member who uses their tunebook for their classes, workshops and students, referring those under their tutilege to their tunebook here. We are all made from a different combination of experiences, accidents and genetic material. With such a variety of histories it would be very strange and even frightening if everyone used their space on this site the same way. I'd want to know what fanaticism could have lead to such blind obedience to a single way...and start making plans to find a desserted island capable of sustaining at least two...
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
I do use my tunebook as a snapshot of what tunes I knew the last time I updated it. That's because I found that I wasn't using for anything else. Wnen I want to learn a tune, I download it directly from the tune page to my folder of ABC files and don't bother going through the intermediate step of adding it to my tunebook.
I've been going through some of my tune files lately to find out which tunes I "know". For that purpose, my definition of "know" is that I can play it recognizably (though not necessarily well) within a couple of minutes of either:
1) after seeing just the title,
2) after looking at the first bar or two, or
3) without looking after having sightread through it just once.
By this definition, it looks like I know around 100 jigs. I'm in the middle of reviewing the reels, but I'm guessing 75 to 100. Probably another 75 to 100 of other rhythms.
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
Someone just started another thread about how to hold on to tunes they have learned. I use my tunebook on The Session to keep track of the tunes I know best, and every once in a while I print it out, and spend some time playing each one to make sure I haven't lost them. So there is a reason to build a tune book with tunes you know!
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
A very nice feature of the tunebook is the ability to generate a sheet music collection of all the tunes. It can be edited and put in a Word document to print out nice and tidily. Excellent for digging up and remembering the tunes you haven't played for months.
With a bit of extra effort you can create a tunebook with just the first couple of bars of each tune to use as a reminder. (Need to use Paint or some such graphics editor.)
Just one reason for including all of the tunes you already know.
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
As has been stated, people use their tune book for different purposes. There was a thread about this a few years back....I might take on the mantle "Keeper of The Threads" in Zina's absence...
The only time I'll add tunes I know is if I've actually submitted them myself so that I can get an eventual "print out". The others are those which I may or may not learn in due course. Every so often, I'll download them to a file on my hard disk.
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
Wow I have over 250 tunes in my tunebook... I didn't know that. And I don't know most of them, at least not by heart.
I've just discovered that I can see them all in the same page if I click on "print". Thanks! I'll print them all and practice them every day.
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
I haven't put any more tunes in for ages; I print them out instead ( often having to enlarge the file to make the music fill across the page ), then I put it in a plastic envelope in a four-ring binder. That way it's all on the shelf ready to hand, next to O'Neills', Branach, The Fake Book, etc., etc.. I've one file for tunes (pretty full now, more of a wish list ), one for songs, one for technical information like how to read ABC, how to make a PVC whistle, how to wire up a telecaster...... SO has just one, for tunes and songs.
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
I have 160-odd in mine. The Tunebook is my main ABC sourcefile on my computer. Then there's the repertoire file, which is up to 75, one file for each tunebook or cd that I've quarried, the oddments file which has abcs which turn up from time to time, and the laboratory file, which has tunes I may know by ear but haven't managed to write them down to my satisfaction. Like Kathryn Tickell's "Drop Dead Waltz" for instance.
If you look up the French Yahoo group for ITM, they have a download of an ABC file which is something like four megabytes - absolutely collossal! Of course it's full of variations, but it's almost too big to be useful.
I'm about due for a clear out.
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
When I first joined The Session I read through all the sections and started logging the tunes I found. I thought this would be useful in the sense of sharing information. However, either because I am so slow on computers or because my machine was so slow I was spending so much time trying to explore tunes that the site lost its value for me.
I don't rightly know how many tunes I have, maybe a few thousand which I can call on, but when I get into a session with mixed musicians' repertoires I find it stimulating to dig into the memory banks.
Kenny who dontributes to this site is similar. When we met up and played, back in the 80s we and other musicians could go "forever" without repeating ourselves.
What is really important is how you play. If you have 6 tunes and love playing and exploring them you are just as much a musician as a person who has played for 20 years and has maybe 800 tunes and loves and plays them in the same way.
That is waht music is all about, it should not be a competition.
Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
And how many of these do you know/play regularly?
I'll start it off - a modest 43 tunes, of which I regularly play (either at sessions or at home alone) 27.
What prompted this was noticing someone had over 200 tunes listed.
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by Lissagriffin
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
A lot of people put tunes in their tunebooks that they plan to learn, instead of that they already know. So tunebook quantities can be deceptive. Also, there are tunes that you know cold, with lots of potential variations, which you could lead off in a session. There are tunes you know pretty well. There are tunes that you could follow if someone else was playing them. For accompanists, there are tunes where you might not be able to play the melody yourself, but you know well enough that you can attach an accompaniment that is specific to the tune. And then there are the tunes that are not in the tunebook, or that you know without a name.
Bottom line, the tunebook on this site is not always a good indicator of what people "know" and "knowing" a tune is not always an either/or proposition.
That being said, the better players usually have many more than 200 tunes under their belt!
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by AlBrown
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
There are some on site with over 400, but I'm with Al on this... Some are 'fluid', which means that they aren't constant but go through a regular overhall, regularly dropping some and adding others. Some tunebooks have gone down to 0 a few times only to rise from the ashes like a Phoenix...
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by ceolachan
And some are merely aspirational...
Oh yeah, and there's the list of own compositions that features in a tunebook or more... I've even seen tunebooks that are perpetually 0, or 1, or less than a baker's dozen...
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by ceolachan
A musician's tunebook is not a measure of the musician...
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
Yes. I can't imagine why anyone would want to add a tune to their tunebook if they already know it. I certainly haven't. Mostly mine are tunes I wanted to learn (or thought I did), or I wanted to check a variation from a tune I knew from elsewhere.
I expect some really great players who visit this site have no tunes in their tunebook. And converesely, some not so hot that have a lot.
I thought I'd prompt a discussion on how people use the tunebook facility.
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by Lissagriffin
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
Even there 'pediho', I know that some musician do put tunes they know in their tunbook, like a basic repertoire, or possibly tunes to 'review' / 'revive' ~ along with a few they're considering adding their repertoire... Sometimes it is to check out the transcripts here with the versions they know...
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
It's one part of this site I don't really utilise, although I've got tunes in it. Mainly because my sight reading is nowadays close to non-existent.
That's not to say it is not a good feature. Just that I mostly source tunes from sessions and recordings.
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by Alf Tupper
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
>I can't imagine why anyone would want to add a tune to their tunebook if they already know it.
As there are so many tunes, maybe people keep them as a reminder. That's why I put the ones in mine...but didn't use it!
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by Alf Tupper
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
I keep a separate offline file with a list of tunes that I know and a list of tunes that I want to learn (tunes move from the latter list to the former, in theory, but sometimes they go the other way too, alas). I tend to add tunes to my tunebook on this site that I have worked on recently.
I think that the tunebook would be even cooler, and would possibly supplant my use of a separate file, with the following features:
1. For each tune, the date when the tune was added to the tune book
2. A comments field for each tune (associated with your tunebook, not the same as the comments that can be posted for a tune that are visible to everyone)
3. The ability to organize the tunebook into folders
If I could choose only one of these it would be #2.
Jeremy, if you are reading this, please realize I am not trying to make you do more work, just expressing an opinion about what would make the tunebook more useful for me
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by crazy_fingerz
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
Another use ~ I know or, it having already been in discussion, at least one member who uses their tunebook for their classes, workshops and students, referring those under their tutilege to their tunebook here. We are all made from a different combination of experiences, accidents and genetic material. With such a variety of histories it would be very strange and even frightening if everyone used their space on this site the same way. I'd want to know what fanaticism could have lead to such blind obedience to a single way...and start making plans to find a desserted island capable of sustaining at least two...
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by ceolachan
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
I do use my tunebook as a snapshot of what tunes I knew the last time I updated it. That's because I found that I wasn't using for anything else. Wnen I want to learn a tune, I download it directly from the tune page to my folder of ABC files and don't bother going through the intermediate step of adding it to my tunebook.
I've been going through some of my tune files lately to find out which tunes I "know". For that purpose, my definition of "know" is that I can play it recognizably (though not necessarily well) within a couple of minutes of either:
1) after seeing just the title,
2) after looking at the first bar or two, or
3) without looking after having sightread through it just once.
By this definition, it looks like I know around 100 jigs. I'm in the middle of reviewing the reels, but I'm guessing 75 to 100. Probably another 75 to 100 of other rhythms.
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by GaryAMartin
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
Somehow I've acquired six tunes in my tunebook without having myself put any in: a mystery.
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by nicholas
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
Someone just started another thread about how to hold on to tunes they have learned. I use my tunebook on The Session to keep track of the tunes I know best, and every once in a while I print it out, and spend some time playing each one to make sure I haven't lost them. So there is a reason to build a tune book with tunes you know!
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by AlBrown
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
I put the the tune Tail Toddle in my tune book because the word "toddle" was in the title. I thought that was an interesting word.
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by The Merry Highlander
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
A very nice feature of the tunebook is the ability to generate a sheet music collection of all the tunes. It can be edited and put in a Word document to print out nice and tidily. Excellent for digging up and remembering the tunes you haven't played for months.
With a bit of extra effort you can create a tunebook with just the first couple of bars of each tune to use as a reminder. (Need to use Paint or some such graphics editor.)
Just one reason for including all of the tunes you already know.
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by grego
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
As has been stated, people use their tune book for different purposes. There was a thread about this a few years back....I might take on the mantle "Keeper of The Threads" in Zina's absence...
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/2496
The only time I'll add tunes I know is if I've actually submitted them myself so that I can get an eventual "print out". The others are those which I may or may not learn in due course. Every so often, I'll download them to a file on my hard disk.
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by Johannes J
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
In those days, I didn't submit tunes myself. I kept putting it off but later found that it was surprisingly easy to do!!
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by Johannes J
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
Wow I have over 250 tunes in my tunebook... I didn't know that. And I don't know most of them, at least not by heart.
I've just discovered that I can see them all in the same page if I click on "print". Thanks! I'll print them all and practice them every day.
# Posted on February 5th 2007 by Pere
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
Does anyone suspect that people put tunes in their tunebook to act the lad and let on that they know a rake of tunes?
(adds three spoonfuls of cynicism and stirs the pot)
# Posted on February 6th 2007 by Sinocal
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
I haven't put any more tunes in for ages; I print them out instead ( often having to enlarge the file to make the music fill across the page ), then I put it in a plastic envelope in a four-ring binder. That way it's all on the shelf ready to hand, next to O'Neills', Branach, The Fake Book, etc., etc.. I've one file for tunes (pretty full now, more of a wish list ), one for songs, one for technical information like how to read ABC, how to make a PVC whistle, how to wire up a telecaster...... SO has just one, for tunes and songs.
# Posted on February 6th 2007 by Guernsey Pete
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
You know wht they say about a guy with a big tune book...
# Posted on February 6th 2007 by ottoschmelk
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
I have 160-odd in mine. The Tunebook is my main ABC sourcefile on my computer. Then there's the repertoire file, which is up to 75, one file for each tunebook or cd that I've quarried, the oddments file which has abcs which turn up from time to time, and the laboratory file, which has tunes I may know by ear but haven't managed to write them down to my satisfaction. Like Kathryn Tickell's "Drop Dead Waltz" for instance.
If you look up the French Yahoo group for ITM, they have a download of an ABC file which is something like four megabytes - absolutely collossal! Of course it's full of variations, but it's almost too big to be useful.
I'm about due for a clear out.
# Posted on February 6th 2007 by Innocent Bystander
Re: Who's got the most tunes in their Session website tunebook?
When I first joined The Session I read through all the sections and started logging the tunes I found. I thought this would be useful in the sense of sharing information. However, either because I am so slow on computers or because my machine was so slow I was spending so much time trying to explore tunes that the site lost its value for me.
I don't rightly know how many tunes I have, maybe a few thousand which I can call on, but when I get into a session with mixed musicians' repertoires I find it stimulating to dig into the memory banks.
Kenny who dontributes to this site is similar. When we met up and played, back in the 80s we and other musicians could go "forever" without repeating ourselves.
What is really important is how you play. If you have 6 tunes and love playing and exploring them you are just as much a musician as a person who has played for 20 years and has maybe 800 tunes and loves and plays them in the same way.
That is waht music is all about, it should not be a competition.
Enjoy your tunes!
Brian x
# Posted on February 7th 2007 by briantheflute