As there is a wealth of knowledge round this board, I thought I would put yet anotheer question out there.
I need new bow. Keep in mind I am a beginner,.
My teacher has recommended that I not spend much money on my new bow, since I do not have the finesse to tell the difference as of yet. So....what do you think? Is it better to buy a bow that I can "grow into" or wait until I have grown "out of" a cheaper studio or practice bow?
I was very lucky starting with a very fine bow. I played it because it was given to me and it was all I had. But I think having a bow with a good weight, balance, and camber helped my playing. I usually play with an inexpensive carbon fiber bow at sessions where I don't want to risk damaging my good bow. It does the job but does not give me the joy that I get from my good bow.
I favor growing into bows and instruments in general. A good bow can improve your technique if for no other reason than it is fun to use.
My friend who is an awesome fiddle player has a very nice exepnsive bow. I used it and loved it and started making offers on it Anyhow - he got a new carbon fibre bow and reckons that it is even better - he plays it all the time, the balance, weight etc are just lovely but at a fraction of the cost. Thats my next thing - to get a carbon fibre bow especially because they dont break easily I think they may just be the perfect thing for people who spend all night in pubs with beer and drunk people playing tunes.
I bought a Coda brand Colors carbon fibre bow via mail order from the states a couple of years ago. it was about $600AUD and it's all i play with now. They're not like the old fibrglass horrors of yesteryear..this one is beautifully balanced and plays like a dream. I actually prefer it to the best real bow i have which is a fine old pernumbucco (or however you spell it!) number, but for all that just a little on the light side.
But you know the best thing about the carbon fibre job? It changes colours in different light! Yes, I know...I'm so shallow!
i got myself a Coda classic ( about 700 USD) and it is wonderful... a craftman told me that a traditional "pernabucco" bow, performing in the same way, may cost 10 times more.
my bow doesn't change colours, but can provide the full raimbow of sounds , from the very light ones (but still very round) to the highest my fiddle can produce, all of them without whistles or strange side noises.
Your teacher is probably right ... if you don't *know* what you're looking for in a new bow, you probably aren't ready for one!
Some advice:
I've recently purchased an Incredibow, from Ed and Carolyn Wilcox of Serenity Mountain ... and, I love it.
It's actually quite different from my other CF bow, which I liked as well as any wooden bow I could afford.
The Incredibow is extremely light and very, very responsive. The hair (though synthetic, it ISN'T crappy "synthetic horse-hair" ... it's something new) is guaranteed to last for years! So far, no broken hairs and it sounds great!
It's a great value for the price, and a LOT cheaper (~$130US for the cheapest model) than a quality wooden bow.
I wonder why it is that the coda is around 700 aussie dollars? That seems an awful lot for carbon fibre - specially since the incredibow is only $179 aussie dollars, has anyone played them both? Any comments?
Beebs, the Coda Classic really is a higher end bow, modeled after some top flight pernambuco sticks.
BTW, I'm selling my Coda Classic for $500. It's in mint condition (these things are indestructible, but I've given mine lots of TLC), recently rehaired, and comes with the original, rectangular hard bow case.
I'm using a pernambuco bow again after 3-4 years on the Coda. Not much of a difference between them; though I'm not playing in as rowdy a pub these days, so there's less need for the carbon fiber.
Hey Beebs, just talked to Ado about his bow, he's not sure what brand it is (it's unmarked) but he paid $200 for it from a violin dealer in Canberra. All the Dealer knew about it was it was chinese (Very helpful i know).
Ado said he'd compared it to the Codas and, while he thought the Codas were very good, couldn't see any real difference compared to his... 'specially for the price difference.
Maybe he could take you to the guy in Canberra around the National?
(uber-ignorant bow-researcher now returning to the safe, secure, fuzzy world of flutey-ness!)
If it's the same dealer, (Hugh, down in Gorman House) then it's probably an Articul. I've just started useing one and the're great. Nearly broke my good bow at a session (it fell off the table) so I'll stick with this.
New bow...
New bow...
Hello all,
As there is a wealth of knowledge round this board, I thought I would put yet anotheer question out there.
I need new bow. Keep in mind I am a beginner,.
My teacher has recommended that I not spend much money on my new bow, since I do not have the finesse to tell the difference as of yet. So....what do you think? Is it better to buy a bow that I can "grow into" or wait until I have grown "out of" a cheaper studio or practice bow?
Justin
# Posted on January 8th 2007 by chef4life
Re: New bow...
I was very lucky starting with a very fine bow. I played it because it was given to me and it was all I had. But I think having a bow with a good weight, balance, and camber helped my playing. I usually play with an inexpensive carbon fiber bow at sessions where I don't want to risk damaging my good bow. It does the job but does not give me the joy that I get from my good bow.
I favor growing into bows and instruments in general. A good bow can improve your technique if for no other reason than it is fun to use.
# Posted on January 8th 2007 by dwdeacon
Re: New bow...
My friend who is an awesome fiddle player has a very nice exepnsive bow. I used it and loved it and started making offers on it
Anyhow - he got a new carbon fibre bow and reckons that it is even better - he plays it all the time, the balance, weight etc are just lovely but at a fraction of the cost. Thats my next thing - to get a carbon fibre bow especially because they dont break easily I think they may just be the perfect thing for people who spend all night in pubs with beer and drunk people playing tunes.
# Posted on January 8th 2007 by bb
Re: New bow...
bb--what brand of bow is it? I'm looking to upgrade my session bow and am eager to hear recommendations.
David
# Posted on January 9th 2007 by dwdeacon
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Hi David,
I'll find out for you - I'm looking to upgrade as well, so I'll email today and find out.
Cheers,
bb
# Posted on January 9th 2007 by bb
Re: New bow...
Brides, maybe try txting the man, he's currently email-challenged...
# Posted on January 9th 2007 by SirNose
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http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/11191/
# Posted on January 9th 2007 by llig leahcim
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Oh really? Why? Do you know which make of carbon fibre bow he has sirnose?
# Posted on January 9th 2007 by bb
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I don't, but I'm going over to his house this evening and I'll ask him.
# Posted on January 9th 2007 by SirNose
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Ta dude!
# Posted on January 9th 2007 by bb
Re: New bow...
I bought a Coda brand Colors carbon fibre bow via mail order from the states a couple of years ago. it was about $600AUD and it's all i play with now. They're not like the old fibrglass horrors of yesteryear..this one is beautifully balanced and plays like a dream. I actually prefer it to the best real bow i have which is a fine old pernumbucco (or however you spell it!) number, but for all that just a little on the light side.
But you know the best thing about the carbon fibre job? It changes colours in different light! Yes, I know...I'm so shallow!
# Posted on January 9th 2007 by Ger the Rigger
Re: New bow...
i got myself a Coda classic ( about 700 USD) and it is wonderful... a craftman told me that a traditional "pernabucco" bow, performing in the same way, may cost 10 times more.
my bow doesn't change colours, but can provide the full raimbow of sounds , from the very light ones (but still very round) to the highest my fiddle can produce, all of them without whistles or strange side noises.
# Posted on January 9th 2007 by fiddlemax
Re: New bow...
Your teacher is probably right ... if you don't *know* what you're looking for in a new bow, you probably aren't ready for one!
Some advice:
I've recently purchased an Incredibow, from Ed and Carolyn Wilcox of Serenity Mountain ... and, I love it.
It's actually quite different from my other CF bow, which I liked as well as any wooden bow I could afford.
The Incredibow is extremely light and very, very responsive. The hair (though synthetic, it ISN'T crappy "synthetic horse-hair" ... it's something new) is guaranteed to last for years! So far, no broken hairs and it sounds great!
It's a great value for the price, and a LOT cheaper (~$130US for the cheapest model) than a quality wooden bow.
# Posted on January 9th 2007 by KeepFiddlin'
Re: New bow...
I wonder why it is that the coda is around 700 aussie dollars? That seems an awful lot for carbon fibre - specially since the incredibow is only $179 aussie dollars, has anyone played them both? Any comments?
# Posted on January 9th 2007 by bb
Re: New bow...
Beebs, the Coda Classic really is a higher end bow, modeled after some top flight pernambuco sticks.
BTW, I'm selling my Coda Classic for $500. It's in mint condition (these things are indestructible, but I've given mine lots of TLC), recently rehaired, and comes with the original, rectangular hard bow case.
I'm using a pernambuco bow again after 3-4 years on the Coda. Not much of a difference between them; though I'm not playing in as rowdy a pub these days, so there's less need for the carbon fiber.
email me if you're interested.
# Posted on January 9th 2007 by Will CPT
Re: New bow...
Hey Beebs, just talked to Ado about his bow, he's not sure what brand it is (it's unmarked) but he paid $200 for it from a violin dealer in Canberra. All the Dealer knew about it was it was chinese (Very helpful i know).
Ado said he'd compared it to the Codas and, while he thought the Codas were very good, couldn't see any real difference compared to his... 'specially for the price difference.
Maybe he could take you to the guy in Canberra around the National?
(uber-ignorant bow-researcher now returning to the safe, secure, fuzzy world of flutey-ness!)
# Posted on January 10th 2007 by SirNose
Re: New bow...
If it's the same dealer, (Hugh, down in Gorman House) then it's probably an Articul. I've just started useing one and the're great. Nearly broke my good bow at a session (it fell off the table) so I'll stick with this.
# Posted on January 11th 2007 by woops