The racket is a type of bassoon in a pot. There is a double reed at one end of a very long wooden tube. The tube is folded over and over and squashed into a cylindrical box about 30 cm high and 15 cm in diameter. Finger holes down the two sides open into the appropriate places in the tube.
We've got four gigs in December and more lined up for next year so some people like it.We got three encores at our last gig.It's so nice to get helpful criticism.
ha, there's another thread close to this one where someone asks whether if it's traditional or not matters. My initial response was no, I don't give a damn. But after seeing that dafyd has posted thirty odd of his own compositions into this tune data base, I'm wondering if I was right.
It's all part of life's rich tapestry.I've always agreed with Big Bill Broonzy's dictum,"It's all folk music,I ain't never heard no hoss singing".Or playing the fiddle,come to that.
I have to say, I still have little brown spots on my monitor thanks to reading llig's reply to the initial posting (I was halfway through a mug of coffee at the time!),
If Zina was around, she would have said *splorf* or some such. You are very funny, ilig!!
As to the band, not really my cup of tea (or coffee) but thanks for posting anyway...
I don't know why I posted the link to my boy's band here. I'd got back from the pub where I'd had 4 pints of Hobgoblin and it seemed like a good idea. The relevance has since escaped me...
Did it occur to anyone to consider that one might react "Bloody hell what a racket" to indicate that he/she does not like the music, without implying any opinion about its quality.
So it seems odd to ask if Mr Llig thinks he could do better.
We've all been playing for a lot longer but the band started officially about six weeks ago.Two months ago I was invited to play at someone's birthday party in a bar in Antwerp.Tom,Lou and Howard were there.I'd played with Tom before,but not the others.We jammed away,and the next day someone called Howard to ask if they could book the band.
"What band?" replied Howard.
The upshot was that we played the gig and two more gigs came out of that and it just started rolling.Every time we've performed we get one or two more gigs.I just got a call asking us to play at a festival in Belgium next August.
I didn't think of it that way showaddydadito,you might well be right.It was just that "racket" seemed to be such a pejorative term that I took umbrage,perhaps unjustly.
Basil: Hallo dear... just doing the picture.
Sybil: Don't forget the menu.
Basil: ...I beg your pardon?
Sybil: Don't forget the menu.
Basil: I thought you said you wanted... Right! [puts the picture down] I'll do the menu.
Sybil: You could have had them both done by now if you hadn't spent the whole morning
skulking in there listening to that racket.
[goes out]
Basil: Racket? That's *Brahms*! Brahms's Thrid Racket!! ...[to himself] The whole morning!
...I had two bars.
Tish,the reason why rackets fell into disuse was that there was no way of getting moisture out of them and the insides used to rot away.Are they still made and has someone found a way round the problem?
Well, Dafydd, that's not my "Cup of Tea" but good on ya anyway. When I lived in Chicago I used to go round and hear the old bluesmen playing acoustic sets at 2 AM, so I have some fondness for the music. To my ear the recording sounds a little muddy, but I know from my band how hard it is to get the sound right.
Ottery, I thought your son's band sounded pretty good. Is "Tony the Torso" an original composition? I wish I played the bass...
And now it looks like BegF has a helping hand in defending llig...good on ye showaddydadito...lligs army of musical galactico's. They are perfect in every way....according to themselves
HI - I actually do have a collection of rackets!! And yes, they can sound loud depending on how you set up the reed, but it's a narrow-bore reed instrument so they're never *that* loud.
And yes, someone has found a way round the "rotting" problem, which is to mould the central bit (that contains the bores) in resin.
The "early music shop" sells them - and I used to use mine as a drone bass when playing in sessions - each of them has about 1-1/2 octaves range, fully chromatic. And the bass one, about a foot high, goes down to the bottom "F" of the piano keyboard. So they're really quite surprising things when you first see them as you expect them to be quite high-pitched.
They're quite tiring on the lips as you have to pinch the reed between them, and you are constantly trying to get rid of the excess air in your lungs as they don't use much air. It's a bit like trying to hold your breath but push it out at the same time.
srt, thanks for that about the 'Odyssey' - Tony the Torso is one of their compositions.
They've been going a bit longer than dafydd's band though, despite their tender years - Elliott and Tom have played together (mostly at house sessions) since they were six!
Dafydd, you should feel grateful for Mr. Gill's 'mercy' - it immediately gets half the site rooting for you!
I see from your profile you don’t play in sessions…. I would encourage sooner participation rather than later, however whenever you do make the step I would recommend that you not use the approach you’ve used on this site with regards to your opinions of people from your initial first impression. It would be a good idea to try and learn from everyone especially those that you don’t agree with. Both Showdaddy and Llig would be folk that I haven’t always agreed with but have learnt a lot from.
I actually get on very well with people. Believe it or not I have manners, patience, common sense (most of the time) and I'd chat to the man from the moon.
I wouldn't dream of being so abrupt with someone I just met at a session, but on the other hand I wouldn't dream of being shown the disrespect Llig treats musicians with. If I was to attend a session and the bodhran player was told he did not play an instrument and was slagged off, I'd be angry, and then I may say something.
Anyway, I have seen a number of Lligs posts and they often consist of a smart arsed comment at the expense of some other musician.
This post started with someone posting a link to their music and the first reply was Llig with a derogatory remark (regardless of what way you interpret "bloody hell what a racket", it comes across negatively).
I can only judge Llig by his posts, and the impression that I get is the impression that I get.
Well, whatever you think of me, or might think of me if you met me, your description is fair. I can be a bit of a smart arse, but mostly it's just do do with speaking my mind. A lot of utter toss is posted here quite often and it's just red rags to me. I'm sorry, but I'm just not the kind of huy who says, "it's not my cup of tee". And if someone says something like "I wanna bodhran, money is no object." Well yes, I'm inclined to be a bit of a c u n t.
I've never had a cup of "tee".And I can't quite follow the non sequitur about the bodhran.I wasn't fishing for complements when I posted the thread,I just thought that some members might be interested in what i've been getting up to.We've played four gigs in the past six weeks and got encores every time.We must be doing something right.The recordiings are a bit raw,we sound a lot different on stage.If someone doesn't like it,that's their perogative,no-one is forced to listen to it.I suspect that Jeremy will have something to say about the reference to the female pudenda.
Thats very honest of you Llig. You speak your mind with reagards to certain subjects, and I suppose your posts are like a red rag to me...hence I speak my mind. Maybe we are not so different after all
Admittedly, he doesn't tend to be overly civil much of the time, and he and I have crossed swords quite a bit. Right, Michael? (Fish. Barrels. As though you're not?)
Interesting that the unity inspired by Fearless Bruce didn't last long. Family politics writ large. Gotta love this place.
On topic, I don't have the software to listen to the .wma files, but I was able to get some of the solo .mp3s to play. I like the way you caught the dark minor quality of Erin Go Bragh. The file seemed to run rather slow, though; not sure if that was my computer or the speed of the recording.
Dafydd, my internet computer is a Mac and although I'm reasonably proficient on MS software due to years of work experience my Mac literacy could be unfavorably compared to a six year old who's just barely able to work out that c-a-t spells cat.
Dafydd, I can't seem to get it to identify itself. it just pops up a little grey boom-box "play" bar, with the start-stop-fastforward-reverse buttons. It appears to be built in to the browser, which is Safari.
I have the same thing sara g - a mac which I love - but I'll be damned if I know how to play wma files or anything other than quick time - same thing with the little grey playing thingy.
I've missed this whole fearless bruce thing - I was only away for like a week - anyone got links that I should be looking at so I can reach the same page as you lot? Seems I've missed the male version of Tanya??
Our band
Our band
Here are some demos by our band Flatland Cannonball.
Have mercy,we've only been going for six weeks.
http://www.tunefull.org/flatlandcannonball.htm
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by dafydd
Re: Our band
bloody hell what a racket
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by ...
Re: Our band
Racket
The racket is a type of bassoon in a pot. There is a double reed at one end of a very long wooden tube. The tube is folded over and over and squashed into a cylindrical box about 30 cm high and 15 cm in diameter. Finger holes down the two sides open into the appropriate places in the tube.
We've got four gigs in December and more lined up for next year so some people like it.We got three encores at our last gig.It's so nice to get helpful criticism.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by dafydd
Re: Our band
Here is my son's band:
http://www.goringjazzgig.co.uk/odyssey/
He's the one with the hair and the double-bass!
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by Ottery
Re: Our band
I liked that. If llig removed his aural blinkers he might like it too.Or perhaps he can do better?
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by dafydd
Re: Our band
By the way our harp player is a well known Flemish bluesman and our guitarist Lou is a much in demand session (not in the Irish sense) musician.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by dafydd
Re: Our band
ha, there's another thread close to this one where someone asks whether if it's traditional or not matters. My initial response was no, I don't give a damn. But after seeing that dafyd has posted thirty odd of his own compositions into this tune data base, I'm wondering if I was right.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by ...
Re: Our band
It's all part of life's rich tapestry.I've always agreed with Big Bill Broonzy's dictum,"It's all folk music,I ain't never heard no hoss singing".Or playing the fiddle,come to that.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by dafydd
Re: Our band
Cop that Illig! Up him Spot, he's not my dog.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by mcknowall
Re: Our band
I have to say, I still have little brown spots on my monitor thanks to reading llig's reply to the initial posting (I was halfway through a mug of coffee at the time!),
If Zina was around, she would have said *splorf* or some such. You are very funny, ilig!!
As to the band, not really my cup of tea (or coffee) but thanks for posting anyway...
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by Mark Harmer
Re: Our band
I don't know why I posted the link to my boy's band here. I'd got back from the pub where I'd had 4 pints of Hobgoblin and it seemed like a good idea. The relevance has since escaped me...
:-\
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by Ottery
Re: Our band
Not bad to say you've only being playing 6 weeks.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by Justintime
Re: Our band
Trouble is some bands practice for 6 years and still sound crap.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by Justintime
Re: Our band
Did it occur to anyone to consider that one might react "Bloody hell what a racket" to indicate that he/she does not like the music, without implying any opinion about its quality.
So it seems odd to ask if Mr Llig thinks he could do better.
£0.02
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by showaddydadito
Re: Our band
Does one have to have incredible ability, or have proven himself in some way, to have an opinion?
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by Backer
Re: Our band
YAHOO!!! Onya Dayfdd (as we say here down under) - someone who knows what a racket is! Fabulous instruments.
One day I'm gonna get me consort of rackets and we're going to call ourselves The Hard Core Rackett Club.
Ahem, sorry, back into lurkdom now. G'night.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by Tish
Re: Our band
We've all been playing for a lot longer but the band started officially about six weeks ago.Two months ago I was invited to play at someone's birthday party in a bar in Antwerp.Tom,Lou and Howard were there.I'd played with Tom before,but not the others.We jammed away,and the next day someone called Howard to ask if they could book the band.
"What band?" replied Howard.
The upshot was that we played the gig and two more gigs came out of that and it just started rolling.Every time we've performed we get one or two more gigs.I just got a call asking us to play at a festival in Belgium next August.
I didn't think of it that way showaddydadito,you might well be right.It was just that "racket" seemed to be such a pejorative term that I took umbrage,perhaps unjustly.
Basil: Hallo dear... just doing the picture.
Sybil: Don't forget the menu.
Basil: ...I beg your pardon?
Sybil: Don't forget the menu.
Basil: I thought you said you wanted... Right! [puts the picture down] I'll do the menu.
Sybil: You could have had them both done by now if you hadn't spent the whole morning
skulking in there listening to that racket.
[goes out]
Basil: Racket? That's *Brahms*! Brahms's Thrid Racket!! ...[to himself] The whole morning!
...I had two bars.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by dafydd
Re: Our band
My mam used to say If you can't say something nice,then don't say anything.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by dafydd
Re: Our band
Tish,the reason why rackets fell into disuse was that there was no way of getting moisture out of them and the insides used to rot away.Are they still made and has someone found a way round the problem?
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by dafydd
Re: Our band
Well, Dafydd, that's not my "Cup of Tea" but good on ya anyway. When I lived in Chicago I used to go round and hear the old bluesmen playing acoustic sets at 2 AM, so I have some fondness for the music. To my ear the recording sounds a little muddy, but I know from my band how hard it is to get the sound right.
Ottery, I thought your son's band sounded pretty good. Is "Tony the Torso" an original composition? I wish I played the bass...
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by srt19170
Re: Our band
I've never heard one in the flesh,as it were,but they were one of the loudest instruments ever built,hence the expression.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by dafydd
Re: Our band
It was recorded live with two mics by Cheapo Cheapo Productions .
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by dafydd
Re: Our band
I have never seen llig post anything nice.
And now it looks like BegF has a helping hand in defending llig...good on ye showaddydadito...lligs army of musical galactico's. They are perfect in every way....according to themselves
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by ireland78
Re: Our band
HI - I actually do have a collection of rackets!! And yes, they can sound loud depending on how you set up the reed, but it's a narrow-bore reed instrument so they're never *that* loud.
And yes, someone has found a way round the "rotting" problem, which is to mould the central bit (that contains the bores) in resin.
The "early music shop" sells them - and I used to use mine as a drone bass when playing in sessions - each of them has about 1-1/2 octaves range, fully chromatic. And the bass one, about a foot high, goes down to the bottom "F" of the piano keyboard. So they're really quite surprising things when you first see them as you expect them to be quite high-pitched.
They're quite tiring on the lips as you have to pinch the reed between them, and you are constantly trying to get rid of the excess air in your lungs as they don't use much air. It's a bit like trying to hold your breath but push it out at the same time.
Mark
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by Mark Harmer
Re: Our band
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/11887/comments#comment241641
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by ...
Re: Our band
I fail to see the connection.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by dafydd
Re: Our band
Interesting post Mark.Why did they acquire the reputation? After all "racket" became a synonym for cacophony.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by dafydd
Racket Info:
http://www.uni-leipzig.de/~mim//musik/exponat/mi/aero/rbi/dri/nr.1414/1414e1.html
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by fidkid
Re: Our band
srt, thanks for that about the 'Odyssey' - Tony the Torso is one of their compositions.
They've been going a bit longer than dafydd's band though, despite their tender years - Elliott and Tom have played together (mostly at house sessions) since they were six!
Dafydd, you should feel grateful for Mr. Gill's 'mercy' - it immediately gets half the site rooting for you!
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by Ottery
Re: Our band
Ireland78.
I see from your profile you don’t play in sessions…. I would encourage sooner participation rather than later, however whenever you do make the step I would recommend that you not use the approach you’ve used on this site with regards to your opinions of people from your initial first impression. It would be a good idea to try and learn from everyone especially those that you don’t agree with. Both Showdaddy and Llig would be folk that I haven’t always agreed with but have learnt a lot from.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by BegF
Re: Our band
ha, that's right. I mean half time I can't even agree with myself
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by ...
Re: Our band
And I bet that statement was one of the half that you don't agree with !
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by BegF
Re: Our band
BegF,
I actually get on very well with people. Believe it or not I have manners, patience, common sense (most of the time) and I'd chat to the man from the moon.
I wouldn't dream of being so abrupt with someone I just met at a session, but on the other hand I wouldn't dream of being shown the disrespect Llig treats musicians with. If I was to attend a session and the bodhran player was told he did not play an instrument and was slagged off, I'd be angry, and then I may say something.
Anyway, I have seen a number of Lligs posts and they often consist of a smart arsed comment at the expense of some other musician.
This post started with someone posting a link to their music and the first reply was Llig with a derogatory remark (regardless of what way you interpret "bloody hell what a racket", it comes across negatively).
I can only judge Llig by his posts, and the impression that I get is the impression that I get.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by ireland78
Re: Our band
Well, whatever you think of me, or might think of me if you met me, your description is fair. I can be a bit of a smart arse, but mostly it's just do do with speaking my mind. A lot of utter toss is posted here quite often and it's just red rags to me. I'm sorry, but I'm just not the kind of huy who says, "it's not my cup of tee". And if someone says something like "I wanna bodhran, money is no object." Well yes, I'm inclined to be a bit of a c u n t.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by ...
Re: Our band
I've never had a cup of "tee".And I can't quite follow the non sequitur about the bodhran.I wasn't fishing for complements when I posted the thread,I just thought that some members might be interested in what i've been getting up to.We've played four gigs in the past six weeks and got encores every time.We must be doing something right.The recordiings are a bit raw,we sound a lot different on stage.If someone doesn't like it,that's their perogative,no-one is forced to listen to it.I suspect that Jeremy will have something to say about the reference to the female pudenda.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by dafydd
Re: Our band
Thats very honest of you Llig. You speak your mind with reagards to certain subjects, and I suppose your posts are like a red rag to me...hence I speak my mind. Maybe we are not so different after all
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by ireland78
Re: Our band
good on you
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by ...
Re: Our band
Now, now... Michael can say nice things now and then.
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/11795/comments#comment239626
Admittedly, he doesn't tend to be overly civil much of the time, and he and I have crossed swords quite a bit. Right, Michael? (Fish. Barrels. As though you're not?)
Interesting that the unity inspired by Fearless Bruce didn't last long. Family politics writ large. Gotta love this place.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by sara g
Re: Our band
On topic, I don't have the software to listen to the .wma files, but I was able to get some of the solo .mp3s to play. I like the way you caught the dark minor quality of Erin Go Bragh. The file seemed to run rather slow, though; not sure if that was my computer or the speed of the recording.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by sara g
Re: Our band
*Waves at Showaddy* Nicetaseeya Dave!
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by sara g
Re: Our band
Have you tried altering the speed with the playback options on Windows Media Player?
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by dafydd
Re: Our band
Come to think of it wma files play on Windows Media Player.You can download it for free.
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by dafydd
Re: Our band
Fearless Bruce needed a rest...it was draining..
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by starting over
Gurk
YASRITMB
# Posted on December 1st 2006 by Eliot
Re: Our band
Dafydd, my internet computer is a Mac and although I'm reasonably proficient on MS software due to years of work experience my Mac literacy could be unfavorably compared to a six year old who's just barely able to work out that c-a-t spells cat.
# Posted on December 2nd 2006 by sara g
Re: Our band
Which media player are you using?
# Posted on December 2nd 2006 by dafydd
Re: Our band
Blame the computer,why don't you !!...#;0)..lol
# Posted on December 3rd 2006 by fionarua
Re: Our band
Dafydd, I can't seem to get it to identify itself. it just pops up a little grey boom-box "play" bar, with the start-stop-fastforward-reverse buttons. It appears to be built in to the browser, which is Safari.
# Posted on December 5th 2006 by sara g
Re: Our band
Fionarua, this is the best most bug-free internet computer I've ever had --- I treat it very nicely!!
# Posted on December 5th 2006 by sara g
Re: Our band
I have the same thing sara g - a mac which I love - but I'll be damned if I know how to play wma files or anything other than quick time - same thing with the little grey playing thingy.
I've missed this whole fearless bruce thing - I was only away for like a week - anyone got links that I should be looking at so I can reach the same page as you lot? Seems I've missed the male version of Tanya??
# Posted on December 9th 2006 by bb