Me and my friend have some kind of weird psychic connection when we play tunes where we automatically know what the other is going to play and we go into the same tune at the same time.
For example like last night at the session we played Connaught mans rambles and then without even looking at each other we went into the Kesh jig at the same time. And this seems to happen alot and even with three tunes in a row like The Tarbolten into the Longford collector and then the sailors bonnet.
Does this happen to anyone else? Is this just a natural talent that we've been born with or do you think it can be developed over time.
Happens to me occasionally, especially when playing with someone I often play tunes with. If I am sitting in a session during a break between tunes and thinking, "Maybe I will start the Reconciliation," my friend will start that tune. Very cool.
By the way, it doesn't count when it's a set you've played together a zillion times and you know after your friend plays Tarbolton he's going to play the Longford Collector because that's what he does every single time he plays the Tarbolton.
The Tarbolten, Longford Collector and the Sailors Bonnet is a well worn set which you probably picked up by osmosis listening to other sessions and CD's, or perhaps it's a case of great minds think alike or yes! You are going crazy!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86C4RNuAj6A
Shame it's not an Irish Song - can we adopt it?
Maybe, but we only go to one session and Ive never heard those tunes before. And the weird thing is that I learnt them from a book and they werent even on the same page as each other.
It's obvious that you have an amazing psychic ability which you need to develop. I have to say I'm so excited right now because I've realised that the other day I played exactly the same set as you mentioned - the Tarbolton into Longford Collector into Sailor's Bonnet. I think I might actually be psychically connected to you. I can't help wondering whether we played them at exactly the same time, even. I don't think anyone here is going to know what we're talking about so maybe we should continue this off-thread. Check your e-mail. Let's be pen pals!
Now, Noxious, keep taking the tablets and have a good lie-down in a darkened room, there's a good chap. I promise you'll feel a lot better in the morning.
Wow I can't even believe this - I somehow *knew* you would say that. Nicstar, I swear to god, we have some sort of like psychic connection or whatever. You haven't e-mailed me yet and I'm deliberately staying up and not going to bed and I'm checking my e-mail constantly to see if you've answered my e-mail. Oh my god I think I've made a fool of myself. I'm never usually that forward. Please be nice to me even if you're being horrible if you know what I mean. And btw don't listen to bb she wipes her arse with nettles.
You think that's weird?
I was sitting waiting for a delayed flight at Bari Airport (Puglia, Southern Italy) when Mrs. O. turns to me says, "they're playing one on your tunes". I tuned into the musak playing in the background, and sure enough, it was some weird Celic-Lite version of Morrisons.
And get this .....
I WASN'T EVEN THINKING ABOUT MORRISON'S AT THE TIME!!!!!
After reading this I went and put on Frankie Gavin and Joe
Deranne’s album and they were playing the Trilogy, couldn’t
believe it, and in the same order as Nicstar said above.
Wow !
But get this, I WASN’t thinking of Morrisons at the exact same
neither !!!
But I was thinking of nettles and bb’s ar$e for some reason.
Well actually I was thinking of Morrisons, and to be honest I
couldn’t find the Frankie Gavin CD, but if I had done I would
have played the trilogy.
I just picked up my flute and played guess what?? The Tarbolten, Longford Collector and the Sailors Bonnet is that psychic or what! Or is that déjà vu? Or is it Alzheimer’s – I forget. Noxious can I have some of your tablets?
Nicstar, that happens to me all the time, with several different players, in unplanned sets that are not necessarily common, and even with people I've never met or played with before. Am I psychic? Wired into some musical borg? Who cares? I don't find it weird enough to wonder about it any more.
The more you play with other people (lots of other people - a wide variety) the more it will happen. The more you question it, the less it will happen.
After 30 years of playing together, my mob can read each other like a book. I can play sets in reverse order, make up sets, play in different keys, play brand new tunes and I never manage to catch them out.
It isn't being psychic, it is being a musician.
Agree with geoff. We just brought a different fourth person into our musical group, and it is enlightening to see how much that we just took for granted has to be relearned and practiced to get everyone to mesh. But fun at the same time, as the rest of us learn new things from him.
I imagine that truly knowing the future, and always knowing what the other person is thinking, would make life pretty dull.
Well - Thats pretty cool geoffW - obviously I missed the boat on that 'being a musician' thing - I still cant tell what people are going into - even if I have been playing with them for years - I'm not a big one for sets....what I mean is - I'm always striving for the perfect set and putting tunes with different tunes each time I play. Trying to avoid getting tired of sets.
Geoff P - dont be talking so silly - you cant say things like that anymore - i'm a mum!
I agree with Beebs. That is extremely cool. I mean, to be able to make up sets and play new tunes after you've been playing with your mates for 30 years - that puts you right up there as a deity of musicianship.
I've had my share of moments in sessions where I seem to have a telepathy with other players (some more than others) but it's impossible to be certain because there are limited and random variables that provide odds in favor of just that sort of thing happening. What I'm talking about is; even though there are thousands of tunes, if you break them down into types, separate out the popular ones from the obscure or unknown ones,, the odds of having identical ideas for tune changes increases.
Another curious thing once happened. A long time ago when I learned the Cameronian reel, I came up with a nice transition into Annie Walsh's reel (that we eventually recorded on the Tipsy House CD) and afterwards I heard not one, but two other recordings using the same transition. I heard them on Clare fm and one was a live recording of a ceili band, and the other was an entirely different group who made a studio CD. Now I'm certain that they had never heard our CD, but I wonder if it was the odds I referred to earlier, or it's because it's an established combination I had heard somewhere and it sat in my subconscious until I learned both tunes.
Launching into the same tune all at the same time isn't all that "spooky" any more, but you know what is:
Several times I've been in the middle of trying to think of the name of a particular Quebecois tune I want to learn so I can ask the session host to play it for me, and he launches into the very one I'm thinking of - out of dead silence.!
I don't know if that makes him psychic or me a mind-controlling Jedi. ("This IS the tune you're looking for!")
Or perhaps we are all parts of a giant musical borg.
Psychic connection and tunes
Psychic connection and tunes
Hi there,
Me and my friend have some kind of weird psychic connection when we play tunes where we automatically know what the other is going to play and we go into the same tune at the same time.
For example like last night at the session we played Connaught mans rambles and then without even looking at each other we went into the Kesh jig at the same time. And this seems to happen alot and even with three tunes in a row like The Tarbolten into the Longford collector and then the sailors bonnet.
Does this happen to anyone else? Is this just a natural talent that we've been born with or do you think it can be developed over time.
Thanks heaps .
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by nicstar
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
I think you've just played together for a while and know what to expect from each other.
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by cathrynb
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
Happens to me occasionally, especially when playing with someone I often play tunes with. If I am sitting in a session during a break between tunes and thinking, "Maybe I will start the Reconciliation," my friend will start that tune. Very cool.
By the way, it doesn't count when it's a set you've played together a zillion times and you know after your friend plays Tarbolton he's going to play the Longford Collector because that's what he does every single time he plays the Tarbolton.
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by TheSilverSpear
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
No no, Because we never even heard those tunes in our session before...and we've only known each other a couple of months. Are we going crazy?
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by nicstar
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
It's called playing sets.
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by Alf Tupper
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The Tarbolten, Longford Collector and the Sailors Bonnet is a well worn set which you probably picked up by osmosis listening to other sessions and CD's, or perhaps it's a case of great minds think alike or yes! You are going crazy!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86C4RNuAj6A
Shame it's not an Irish Song - can we adopt it?
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by gtag
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Yeahnah, But how did we just know which tunes to do in the set in that order at that exact time?
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by nicstar
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
Maybe, but we only go to one session and Ive never heard those tunes before. And the weird thing is that I learnt them from a book and they werent even on the same page as each other.
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by nicstar
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
Gtag, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86C4RNuAj6A - now that's the most imaginative video I've yet seen on YouTube.
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by lazyhound
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It's obvious that you have an amazing psychic ability which you need to develop. I have to say I'm so excited right now because I've realised that the other day I played exactly the same set as you mentioned - the Tarbolton into Longford Collector into Sailor's Bonnet. I think I might actually be psychically connected to you. I can't help wondering whether we played them at exactly the same time, even. I don't think anyone here is going to know what we're talking about so maybe we should continue this off-thread. Check your e-mail. Let's be pen pals!
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by Dow
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
Now, Noxious, keep taking the tablets and have a good lie-down in a darkened room, there's a good chap. I promise you'll feel a lot better in the morning.
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by lazyhound
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
What a complete windup - how Lameo.
Heres a little tip for you; Do us all a favour and stop learning tunes out of books especially the Tarbolton Set.
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by shoddy fiddle player
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
bb - thats a bit harsh, some people find it hard to learn tunes by ear, (but not me personally).
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by sneetch
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
Thanks sneetch
LOL
I cant understand how people learn by ear when its so fast and there is so many notes
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by nicstar
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
Wow I can't even believe this - I somehow *knew* you would say that. Nicstar, I swear to god, we have some sort of like psychic connection or whatever. You haven't e-mailed me yet and I'm deliberately staying up and not going to bed and I'm checking my e-mail constantly to see if you've answered my e-mail. Oh my god I think I've made a fool of myself. I'm never usually that forward. Please be nice to me even if you're being horrible if you know what I mean. And btw don't listen to bb she wipes her arse with nettles.
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by Dow
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
Nurse! Noxious's been chucking his tablets down the pan again!
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by lazyhound
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
Hahaha Dow, so hilarious - you are obviously not that psychic otherwise you wouldnt be waiting around for the email....you wouldnt even need email.
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by shoddy fiddle player
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
It's not telepathy bb. LOL
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by nicstar
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
You think that's weird?
I was sitting waiting for a delayed flight at Bari Airport (Puglia, Southern Italy) when Mrs. O. turns to me says, "they're playing one on your tunes". I tuned into the musak playing in the background, and sure enough, it was some weird Celic-Lite version of Morrisons.
And get this .....
I WASN'T EVEN THINKING ABOUT MORRISON'S AT THE TIME!!!!!
Spooky!
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by Ottery
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Don’t mind ‘em nicstar – I found it funny
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by BegF
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
After reading this I went and put on Frankie Gavin and Joe
Deranne’s album and they were playing the Trilogy, couldn’t
believe it, and in the same order as Nicstar said above.
Wow !
But get this, I WASN’t thinking of Morrisons at the exact same
neither !!!
But I was thinking of nettles and bb’s ar$e for some reason.
Well actually I was thinking of Morrisons, and to be honest I
couldn’t find the Frankie Gavin CD, but if I had done I would
have played the trilogy.
Weird.
No ?
Hello ? Where has everyone gone ?
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by BegF
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
They apparently have become so enlightened that they no longer need websites to communicate............
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by AlBrown
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
Well f me pink.
No seriousley, do.
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by BegF
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
I just picked up my flute and played guess what?? The Tarbolten, Longford Collector and the Sailors Bonnet is that psychic or what! Or is that déjà vu? Or is it Alzheimer’s – I forget. Noxious can I have some of your tablets?
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by gtag
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
Nicstar, that happens to me all the time, with several different players, in unplanned sets that are not necessarily common, and even with people I've never met or played with before. Am I psychic? Wired into some musical borg? Who cares? I don't find it weird enough to wonder about it any more.
The more you play with other people (lots of other people - a wide variety) the more it will happen. The more you question it, the less it will happen.
~ Jedi fiddler.
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by Kerri Brown
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
Oooh! Kerri's back! [demure wave of the fingers]. I bet you've been out there having a life beyond the mustard board.
The rest of you guys are awful. Ignore them, nicstar. Most of them were raised to behave in a more polite manner. tsk.
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by Batlady
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Hurrah Kerri's home !
Re Deja Vu, Gtag, maybe Kerri could tell us, is it true the french don't have a word for "Deja Vu" ?
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by BegF
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
I could swear I've heard that joke before.
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by GaryAMartin
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
All those who believe in psycho kinesis;
raise my hand.
—steven wright
# Posted on September 21st 2006 by Ray Mariani
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
I knew that this topic would come up!
# Posted on September 22nd 2006 by The Merry Highlander
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Me too! And we're both from Maryland!!
# Posted on September 22nd 2006 by ketida
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Amazing that a thread such as this would bring Kerri and bb back out of hiding. But then they probably knew that would happen.
# Posted on September 22nd 2006 by Donough
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Everyone knows that Canadians are psychic, eh?
# Posted on September 22nd 2006 by oldstrings
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After 30 years of playing together, my mob can read each other like a book. I can play sets in reverse order, make up sets, play in different keys, play brand new tunes and I never manage to catch them out.
It isn't being psychic, it is being a musician.
# Posted on September 22nd 2006 by geoffwright
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I am glad no-one has been crass enough to mention bb's ar$e and the "craic" in the same sentence!
Doh!
# Posted on September 22nd 2006 by Geoff Pollitt
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
Agree with geoff. We just brought a different fourth person into our musical group, and it is enlightening to see how much that we just took for granted has to be relearned and practiced to get everyone to mesh. But fun at the same time, as the rest of us learn new things from him.
I imagine that truly knowing the future, and always knowing what the other person is thinking, would make life pretty dull.
# Posted on September 22nd 2006 by AlBrown
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
Well - Thats pretty cool geoffW - obviously I missed the boat on that 'being a musician' thing - I still cant tell what people are going into - even if I have been playing with them for years - I'm not a big one for sets....what I mean is - I'm always striving for the perfect set and putting tunes with different tunes each time I play. Trying to avoid getting tired of sets.
Geoff P - dont be talking so silly - you cant say things like that anymore - i'm a mum!
# Posted on September 23rd 2006 by shoddy fiddle player
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
I agree with Beebs. That is extremely cool. I mean, to be able to make up sets and play new tunes after you've been playing with your mates for 30 years - that puts you right up there as a deity of musicianship.
# Posted on September 23rd 2006 by Dow
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
I've had my share of moments in sessions where I seem to have a telepathy with other players (some more than others) but it's impossible to be certain because there are limited and random variables that provide odds in favor of just that sort of thing happening. What I'm talking about is; even though there are thousands of tunes, if you break them down into types, separate out the popular ones from the obscure or unknown ones,, the odds of having identical ideas for tune changes increases.
Another curious thing once happened. A long time ago when I learned the Cameronian reel, I came up with a nice transition into Annie Walsh's reel (that we eventually recorded on the Tipsy House CD) and afterwards I heard not one, but two other recordings using the same transition. I heard them on Clare fm and one was a live recording of a ceili band, and the other was an entirely different group who made a studio CD. Now I'm certain that they had never heard our CD, but I wonder if it was the odds I referred to earlier, or it's because it's an established combination I had heard somewhere and it sat in my subconscious until I learned both tunes.
# Posted on September 23rd 2006 by Phantom Button
Re: Psychic connection and tunes
Launching into the same tune all at the same time isn't all that "spooky" any more, but you know what is:
Several times I've been in the middle of trying to think of the name of a particular Quebecois tune I want to learn so I can ask the session host to play it for me, and he launches into the very one I'm thinking of - out of dead silence.!
I don't know if that makes him psychic or me a mind-controlling Jedi. ("This IS the tune you're looking for!")
Or perhaps we are all parts of a giant musical borg.
# Posted on September 26th 2006 by Kerri Brown