Re: Have anyone tried the boehm system wooden flute?
I've played one once. A local friend has one. Sounds nothing like an Irish flute, just a really, really good sounding boehm. It was an Abell, if I recall correctly. Only $10.
Re: Have anyone tried the boehm system wooden flute?
Since the availability and cost of such a flute has come up, I hope it won't violate the etiquette of this site to mention that I have a Boehm-keyed cocus Rudall Carte from 191- or so that needs a new home. Might suit someone who would like to experiment with a quality cocus Boehm flute. Any reasonable offer considered, and it would be MUCH less than 10,000 US$ since it is in original high pitch (typical of english-made instruments from that period, around A 446 - 452 or maybe lower using the slide). For playing solo or with tunable instruments (guitars, fiddles, etc.) that shouldn't be a problem. Other defects include a crack on the far side of the headjoint (not through the embouchure) that does not impede playing since the headjoint is lined, some tarnish on the nickel keywork and mustiness through lack of playing for years. A keywork overhaul might be in order for best functioning, but one of Boston's best professional (Boehm) flautists checked it out for me and pronounced it playable as-is. In beat up original case with lovely cocus swab-stick/screwdriver and cocus cork grease container. I took it in trade for a concertina and before that it had been swapped for rent by a well-known Galway-style player (but it is NOT a Radcliffe system).
Re: Have anyone tried the boehm system wooden flute?
Yes, I do play a wooden Boehm System Flute, after having gone through trying playing scottish trad on the metal Boehm flute, the unkeyed irish flute and the simple system keyed flute ... I found playing scottish (fiddle) music, which often times is in flat keys, extremely difficult on the irish flute. I am quite happy with my wooden Boehm flute as all music in all keys is fairly easy to play without any forked fingering gymnastics or trying to reach for keys like the g sharp or the f which seem to be in impossible places (at least to my fingers)on the simple system flute. I took me some adjusting, but I find playing bowed triplets and other idiosyncracies of the scots fiddle music easier to play having Boehm Style keys. What I did discover though is that it has been very important to me getting my hands on a new flute as the keys work very smoothly after a time of breaking in the instrument, something which I have always found less then satisfactory with older flutes - a fact which helps a lot in playing at speed... Getting such a flute without breaking a bank is a matter of sticking to it ... I got mine on Ebay for a tiny fraction of the price of a new one ... So go for it - it does work!
Have anyone tried the boehm system wooden flute?
Have anyone tried the boehm system wooden flute?
There's a model by Prima Sankyo (and maybe others) which is made of wood but with a boehm system.
How is it? Does it have that 'reedy' sound of the irish flute?
# Posted on September 15th 2006 by Matt_Celta
Re: Have anyone tried the boehm system wooden flute?
I've played one once. A local friend has one. Sounds nothing like an Irish flute, just a really, really good sounding boehm. It was an Abell, if I recall correctly. Only $10.
thousand, that is.
# Posted on September 15th 2006 by wormdiet
Re: Have anyone tried the boehm system wooden flute?
my teacher plays one regularly. It doesn't sound like irish flute at all. and yes it is VERY expensive
# Posted on September 15th 2006 by Kriana
Re: Have anyone tried the boehm system wooden flute?
I've got a wooden Rudall Carte 1867 system, which sounds very rich, but you can't do the digital gymnastics that open-hole flutes ask for.
As for "sounding like the Irish flute", I know people who do that on the tin Boehm. It's all down to your boosher.
# Posted on September 15th 2006 by LastToFinish
Re: Have anyone tried the boehm system wooden flute?
Since the availability and cost of such a flute has come up, I hope it won't violate the etiquette of this site to mention that I have a Boehm-keyed cocus Rudall Carte from 191- or so that needs a new home. Might suit someone who would like to experiment with a quality cocus Boehm flute. Any reasonable offer considered, and it would be MUCH less than 10,000 US$ since it is in original high pitch (typical of english-made instruments from that period, around A 446 - 452 or maybe lower using the slide). For playing solo or with tunable instruments (guitars, fiddles, etc.) that shouldn't be a problem. Other defects include a crack on the far side of the headjoint (not through the embouchure) that does not impede playing since the headjoint is lined, some tarnish on the nickel keywork and mustiness through lack of playing for years. A keywork overhaul might be in order for best functioning, but one of Boston's best professional (Boehm) flautists checked it out for me and pronounced it playable as-is. In beat up original case with lovely cocus swab-stick/screwdriver and cocus cork grease container. I took it in trade for a concertina and before that it had been swapped for rent by a well-known Galway-style player (but it is NOT a Radcliffe system).
Paul Groff
paul@groffsmusic.com
# Posted on September 16th 2006 by Paul Groff
Re: Have anyone tried the boehm system wooden flute?
Yes, I do play a wooden Boehm System Flute, after having gone through trying playing scottish trad on the metal Boehm flute, the unkeyed irish flute and the simple system keyed flute ... I found playing scottish (fiddle) music, which often times is in flat keys, extremely difficult on the irish flute. I am quite happy with my wooden Boehm flute as all music in all keys is fairly easy to play without any forked fingering gymnastics or trying to reach for keys like the g sharp or the f which seem to be in impossible places (at least to my fingers)on the simple system flute. I took me some adjusting, but I find playing bowed triplets and other idiosyncracies of the scots fiddle music easier to play having Boehm Style keys. What I did discover though is that it has been very important to me getting my hands on a new flute as the keys work very smoothly after a time of breaking in the instrument, something which I have always found less then satisfactory with older flutes - a fact which helps a lot in playing at speed... Getting such a flute without breaking a bank is a matter of sticking to it ... I got mine on Ebay for a tiny fraction of the price of a new one ... So go for it - it does work!
# Posted on September 17th 2006 by ScotsWind