Last night, in the Crowes Nest, the performing duo announced they were going to attempt a reggae version of The Lark In The Morning. They gave the rendition on cittern, guitar and low whistle... it was great.....the future of ITM......it's gonna be global.....or bigger.....universal even! I was sorta wondering in a vague, slovenly kinda way if anybody had any lucid thoughts on the subject. I mean, all you divorced hungry layabouts...No Woman No Fry. Anyway, gotta wash me dreads
IMHO the future is in salsa / Irish fusion - I heard a Basque pipe band in Strakonice playing music that sounded like a mix of the two and it was amazing.
I think it's interesting and fun to experiment...but if that's the future then we're all screwed...it's not Irish Trad it's fun to play around with...if it's the future thn I'm sad...very very sad...the traditional traditional still kicks it's arse anytime...
This is nothing new. Back in 83 I was part of an Irish/reggae band that performed "farewell to eye-ree-land" for the Lark Camp talent show that year. It was a big hit, but most people recognized it was just a novelty sort of thing. ITM rules there otherwise.
Take a listen to "From Galway to Dublin" by Dan Sullivan's Shamrock Band and then Eddie Grant's "Train Tour to Rainbow City" - obvious influence the other way there!
Have no worries sessioneers, it's happened time and again (who remembers Horslips?) but the trad is stronger than ever. Talking of Farewell to Ireland, I've just come from a session where this was played with the Flogging Reel and the result was pure magic!
This past weekend the annual Reggae On The River was held here in Humboldt County. They made three million dollars. The only thing that reggae has going for it is the back beat. Other than that it is pretty boring. What joy could one possibly get from playing it? How do they manage to stay awake during a song, not lose interest and drift away? Well, three million dollars is a lot of moola. Joe Craven has had a lot of success mixing it up.
I'm sure some Irish music festivals are just as successful as "Reggae on the River." Everyone seems to have their favorite music, and it varies from region to region, country to country. Some of the most popular and lucrative genres bore me too... but that's just me.
Irish music is big and tasty enough to be played straight or used as a seasoning in a lot of different "fusion" dishes.
My personal favorites are reggae, trip hop and dance. It also goes well with "orchestral" backing.
You can contact me for a web site that has examples of most of the styles above.
As a Californian, I'm not at all suprised that someone made $3M on a Raggae festival in Humboldt, as reggae and Humboldt's #1 agricultural crop go together like ITM and Guiness.
Uilleann pipes were first designed to play chamber music on.
The bodhran was used when hunting the wren.
It's all fusion.
Irish music didn't just appear.
It's like comparing evolution with intelligent design.
One has evidence and one just wants to argue the ideals in their head.
Proper fusion happens when an alculmination of styles and influences combined with a group of individuals influencing each other recreate it enough that it has its own unique voice.
Combining obvious reggae with obvious traditional music isn't really fusion,it's fun.
Any two genres can be melded together with mixed results,
but seldom does the message become strong enough to withstand the test of time.
I't's a free world though,
And so the proccess goes on..........
We're all part of it.
Each to their own. There's a lot of bad music out there but in my book this isn't bad, it's just not exactly my cup of tea & as P.browne says, it's a free world.
Anyone who is not sure what this music actually sounds like can listen to a few clips of 'PaddyRasta' & .......get wit da beat Maaaaan ... at:
Oops, I wasn't quashing your idea of holodeck concerts, PB, just the whole idea of playing Irish music with a strong mix of other styles. A little bit of innovation is OK, but some of these fusions with other music just leave me cold.
Although, come to think of it, I was never much of a holodeck fan, either, to me, delving into the fantasy life of the Star Trek characters was a sign that the franchise was burning itself out.
Although the thought of being able to provide better accompaniment to Michael Coleman than some of his original side-men does have a certain appeal!
This may sound kindda stupid, but have any of you ever tried to look for backing tracks, loops, rhythmes etc. to play Irish traditional music with on the internet?
Now, there is all manner of free stuff out there, but NOTHING for home spun Irish music (or maybe I am looking in all the wrong places). So, then you might say, go to a session - yeah! Good one! Look for a 1,500 km radius and there aren't any! So what do ya do?
Yep, you guessed it, play with easily available hip hop rap loops then scrub the inappropriate backing! Pirate for free samples from around the traps. Or; one really kind soul from this site has been sending me beautiful MP3's to play along with and I AM REALLY REALLY GRATEFUL for this. It gives me someone to play the music I want to play with. It is fantastic stuff. You know who you are - THANK U THANK U.
So now, my answer to "Is this the future?" is, that if you want the music to remain traditional Irish music, you are ALL responsible for making the music available to everyone who wants access to it no matter where they physically are, and even those musos who might just happen across it in their searching for stuff to play with. Mighty Craic was mighty, but it isn't any more. We are a global community of people who play the beautiful music - I say there needs to be heaps more caring and sharing amongst this community to keep the music alive and kicking in this electronic age and rapidly shrinking world. 'The session' has the potential to bring people together no matter where they are in the world. It needs to go beyond the yellaboard conversations, the dots, and the odd physical meeting of the minds.
It is up to each and every one of us, so there, I throw out the challenge for you to get going and do something about it.
(Any MP3's for playing along with would be gratefully received.)
Is this the future?
Is this the future?
Last night, in the Crowes Nest, the performing duo announced they were going to attempt a reggae version of The Lark In The Morning. They gave the rendition on cittern, guitar and low whistle... it was great.....the future of ITM......it's gonna be global.....or bigger.....universal even! I was sorta wondering in a vague, slovenly kinda way if anybody had any lucid thoughts on the subject. I mean, all you divorced hungry layabouts...No Woman No Fry. Anyway, gotta wash me dreads
# Posted on August 9th 2006 by strayaway
Re: Is this the future?
We've already got an Irish trad / reggae band in Aberdeen - "PaddyRasta". Is this the future? - no.
# Posted on August 9th 2006 by Kenny
Re: Is this the future?
IMHO the future is in salsa / Irish fusion - I heard a Basque pipe band in Strakonice playing music that sounded like a mix of the two and it was amazing.
# Posted on August 9th 2006 by millionyears_bc
Re: Is this the future?
new lyrics for an irish reggae song "NO WHISKEY NO CRY"
# Posted on August 9th 2006 by S.McMullen
Re: Is this the future?
It's a no-brainer.
# Posted on August 9th 2006 by duffgen
Re: Is this the future?
I think it's interesting and fun to experiment...but if that's the future then we're all screwed...it's not Irish Trad it's fun to play around with...if it's the future thn I'm sad...very very sad...the traditional traditional still kicks it's arse anytime...
# Posted on August 9th 2006 by possumawesome
Re: Is this the future?
No rashers no fry....
# Posted on August 9th 2006 by tompipes
Re: Is this the future?
This is nothing new. Back in 83 I was part of an Irish/reggae band that performed "farewell to eye-ree-land" for the Lark Camp talent show that year. It was a big hit, but most people recognized it was just a novelty sort of thing. ITM rules there otherwise.
# Posted on August 9th 2006 by Phantom Button
Re: Is this the future?
Take a listen to "From Galway to Dublin" by Dan Sullivan's Shamrock Band and then Eddie Grant's "Train Tour to Rainbow City" - obvious influence the other way there!
# Posted on August 9th 2006 by RichardB
Re: Is this the future?
Have no worries sessioneers, it's happened time and again (who remembers Horslips?) but the trad is stronger than ever. Talking of Farewell to Ireland, I've just come from a session where this was played with the Flogging Reel and the result was pure magic!
# Posted on August 10th 2006 by Bannerman
Re: Is this the future?
Didn't The Cheiftiansdo a song with Ziggy Marley once?
# Posted on August 10th 2006 by Why Bother?
Re: Is this the future?
on my laptop i saved a file from someone's post -- someone who happened upon eek-a mouse's birthday party in a cork city pub?
i and i rasta..
i thought hippies doing bluegrass was bad enough.
# Posted on August 10th 2006 by gravelwalks
Re: Is this the future?
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display/8547/comments#comment182663
# Posted on August 10th 2006 by gravelwalks
Re: Is this the future?
This past weekend the annual Reggae On The River was held here in Humboldt County. They made three million dollars. The only thing that reggae has going for it is the back beat. Other than that it is pretty boring. What joy could one possibly get from playing it? How do they manage to stay awake during a song, not lose interest and drift away? Well, three million dollars is a lot of moola. Joe Craven has had a lot of success mixing it up.
# Posted on August 10th 2006 by huck
Re: Is this the future?
I'm sure some Irish music festivals are just as successful as "Reggae on the River." Everyone seems to have their favorite music, and it varies from region to region, country to country. Some of the most popular and lucrative genres bore me too... but that's just me.
# Posted on August 10th 2006 by Phantom Button
Re: Is this the future?
Irish music is big and tasty enough to be played straight or used as a seasoning in a lot of different "fusion" dishes.
My personal favorites are reggae, trip hop and dance. It also goes well with "orchestral" backing.
You can contact me for a web site that has examples of most of the styles above.
As a Californian, I'm not at all suprised that someone made $3M on a Raggae festival in Humboldt, as reggae and Humboldt's #1 agricultural crop go together like ITM and Guiness.
# Posted on August 11th 2006 by KC Gross
Re: Is this the future?
Uilleann pipes were first designed to play chamber music on.
The bodhran was used when hunting the wren.
It's all fusion.
Irish music didn't just appear.
It's like comparing evolution with intelligent design.
One has evidence and one just wants to argue the ideals in their head.
Proper fusion happens when an alculmination of styles and influences combined with a group of individuals influencing each other recreate it enough that it has its own unique voice.
Combining obvious reggae with obvious traditional music isn't really fusion,it's fun.
Any two genres can be melded together with mixed results,
but seldom does the message become strong enough to withstand the test of time.
I't's a free world though,
And so the proccess goes on..........
We're all part of it.
# Posted on August 11th 2006 by P.browne
Re: Is this the future?
Each to their own. There's a lot of bad music out there but in my book this isn't bad, it's just not exactly my cup of tea & as P.browne says, it's a free world.
Anyone who is not sure what this music actually sounds like can listen to a few clips of 'PaddyRasta' & .......get wit da beat Maaaaan ... at:
http://www.musicscotland.com/acatalog/MusicScotland_PaddyRasta___Listen_To_Your_Heart_2368.html
I heard they're looking for a Flute player Kenny!
# Posted on August 11th 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: Is this the future?
Send them to Seamus Tansey .
# Posted on August 11th 2006 by Kenny
Re: Is this the future?
The future is having your own personal holo-deck and programming a session with your favorite musicians and punters and such.
# Posted on August 11th 2006 by Phantom Button
Re: Is this the future?
Good luck to all of you who like this stuff, and I wish you all the best, but if this is the future, I prefer to cling to the past.
# Posted on August 12th 2006 by AlBrown
Re: Is this the future?
I guess you never watched Star Trek.
# Posted on August 12th 2006 by Phantom Button
Re: Is this the future?
Oops, I wasn't quashing your idea of holodeck concerts, PB, just the whole idea of playing Irish music with a strong mix of other styles. A little bit of innovation is OK, but some of these fusions with other music just leave me cold.
Although, come to think of it, I was never much of a holodeck fan, either, to me, delving into the fantasy life of the Star Trek characters was a sign that the franchise was burning itself out.
Although the thought of being able to provide better accompaniment to Michael Coleman than some of his original side-men does have a certain appeal!
# Posted on August 12th 2006 by AlBrown
Re: Is this the future?
This may sound kindda stupid, but have any of you ever tried to look for backing tracks, loops, rhythmes etc. to play Irish traditional music with on the internet?
Now, there is all manner of free stuff out there, but NOTHING for home spun Irish music (or maybe I am looking in all the wrong places). So, then you might say, go to a session - yeah! Good one! Look for a 1,500 km radius and there aren't any! So what do ya do?
Yep, you guessed it, play with easily available hip hop rap loops then scrub the inappropriate backing! Pirate for free samples from around the traps. Or; one really kind soul from this site has been sending me beautiful MP3's to play along with and I AM REALLY REALLY GRATEFUL for this. It gives me someone to play the music I want to play with. It is fantastic stuff. You know who you are - THANK U THANK U.
So now, my answer to "Is this the future?" is, that if you want the music to remain traditional Irish music, you are ALL responsible for making the music available to everyone who wants access to it no matter where they physically are, and even those musos who might just happen across it in their searching for stuff to play with. Mighty Craic was mighty, but it isn't any more. We are a global community of people who play the beautiful music - I say there needs to be heaps more caring and sharing amongst this community to keep the music alive and kicking in this electronic age and rapidly shrinking world. 'The session' has the potential to bring people together no matter where they are in the world. It needs to go beyond the yellaboard conversations, the dots, and the odd physical meeting of the minds.
It is up to each and every one of us, so there, I throw out the challenge for you to get going and do something about it.
(Any MP3's for playing along with would be gratefully received.)
# Posted on August 13th 2006 by Clear Drops