I came across this quote & the ones below, when I was looking for info on a recent etiquette question for another thread, & thought some of the newcomers to 'thesession' might like to read them, especially if they are anti-noodlers too
“Please, please, please display some humility!
You might think you're God's gift to the Banjo or Bodhran, but it's possible that not everyone feels the same way.
Lack of humility is a huge turn off for me.
As I see it, the people with the worst attitudes are the ones that are the most insecure about their playing and feel like they have something to prove.
Irish Tradtional Music is an interactive art form and IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU!
Above all, you should be humbled by your instrument.”
@ http://home.aol.com/bstpt/BrianSwartz/10JamEtiquette.html
& this one:
“Another truly annoying habit (not necessarily restricted to novices) is evidenced when someone continuously "noodles around" on his/her instrument between songs.
People are often trying TUNE between songs and do not , therefore, appreciate such an activity.
If your noodling around is a (not so) subtle way of suggesting the next tune, then just go ahead and suggest the next tune!
If your noodling around is just a way of showing others how good you are, it is unnecessary, and just plain annoying.
If your noodling around is an attempt to practice a particular tune or lick, move away from the group and practice in a corner by yourself!”
@ http://www.s-w-b-a.com/pickerscorner/etiquette.htm
Has anyone managed to find quotes on the Net which support the 'benefits of noodling'?
If so, it might be interesting to see those here, to give us a balanced thread!
There was a short documentary film on our local Public Television Station a while back on "Noodling in Oklahoma". In fact, there is an anual Noodling Tournament in Pauls Valley, Oklahoma every year. There were some pretty 'interesting' characters featured in that film. I guess it takes a certain type of person to blindly stick your hand in a dark underwater hole hoping a 50 to 100 pound catfish will bite it (rather than a snapping turtle or a beaver)!
Interesting one this. Yes, to jy shame, in the past, I admit to having been a bit of a noodler. Long since though, I learned the error of it. And I subsiquently confined my practice to the home.
However;
Now I almost never play in the house, and pick up tunes almost exclusively in the pub. But I never play unless I know it. (apart from the occassional mistake of course, where I think I know it but very quickly realize I don't, split second)
The nack is to play the bits of the tune you do know and simply to listen to the bits you don't. And if you are really listening, which is the whole point of it, the gaps get filled pretty quickly.
Sometimes you get what I refer to as the "Bombard" effect. Like in Brittany pipe bands where the bombards come in just for snippets of tunes. I quite like it.
But, Mr White Grouse, and this is maybe spliting hairs, a session is neither being at home nor playing in public. It is neither the privacy of your kitchen, nor the performance of a concert. It can't even be described as in between. It is something all together different. So, in a way, you question is nul and void
Ha harm ptarm. Prof. Gill has the bollox of your query right there. Null & void is the correct conclusion. But as I said in my most recently posted thread, you can have a lay-off, but still come back, if you've been around as long you or I have been (particularly you of course....I mean of course coming *quickly* back from a lay off...)
Well, fact is my question doesn't mention session, just "in public", & as you are playing in public when you play a pub session, I reckon it does count.
But anyway lads, keep noodlin if that's your bag & you could get really good at it & end up with rewards like these guys on this 'Keep on Noodlin' page:
***“Practice at home, play in public. 'Nuff said.”
Yes and yes...
Yes, I practice at home. I gig in public, but... ah, the almighty "but"... but I don't play ITM in public. Why? I'll tell you why... Because if I'm not at the level dictated by the leaders of the session I feel intimidated... Ha! Noodle my arse! Let's JAM!
A friend who is a good Scottish dancer, but not into the trad session thing, said to me "I think I could like it, but it always sounds as though they are practising." I felt this was a bit harsh, but she had an appreciation of music no doubt, so I went to the next session with a critical ear, and much of it it did indeed sound like a bunch of people practising together. And in fact there was a lot of practising going on. I suppose we get used to this in sessions, but to an outsider it perhaps just sounds like we don't know what we're playing, and of course a lot of the time that is true; everybody plays the version of a tune they have picked up somewhere. Tune versions give a legitimate reason perhaps to play different tunes at the same time in Irish music, but if you really want to reveal the amount of practising going on at a session, try playing a four-part Scottish pipe tune and watch how it magically becomes a two-parter, or in the case of Crossing the Minch, very nearly a one-parter ! Unfortunately, I cannot plead innocence. There is only one solution, stick to old Bothy Band sets.
"t always sounds as though they are practising" - Ouch!
Reminds me of the tourist who came up to us one time & asked us, after a particularly long spell of one set of reels after another, - "If we only knew the one tune?"!
There is also an idea, I have even heard it voiced too, in the heads os some outsiders, that not all of us actually know the tune, but that we just sort of busk along with the tunes, like some easy flowing jazz session - yeah, like the Jazz guys don't know their tunes either!
"and watch how it magically becomes a two-parter"
- Aye, this happens to me too over here Nick, every time I try & play the 'four' parts of The High Road to Linton. Fortunately the parts all sound the same, as in many pipe tunes, so it doesn't sound too bad I suppose - in a noodling sort of a way!
I play at home and in sessions as well. But I don't practice at home *in order to* play in sessions. Playing at home and playing in sessions are a bit different activities. I love playing with friends on a regular basis or with new people in new places, but I also love playing tunes nobody would know just by myself at home.
Of course, it's also true that I always try to make myself feel "at home" even in public. I believe this is what everyone does.
Ok, I'm confused... I've been reading thread after thread to work out what's noodling and what's not. Seeing as there's so many people against noodling I'm starting to get worried about not having grasped the concept of noodling (and therefore accidentially - and innocently - annoy people by noodling in sessions).
It was mentioned earlier in this thread that "The nack is to play the bits of the tune you do know and simply to listen to the bits you don't." I thought that was a way of noodling...
So what's the deal about noodling? Is playing the right notes, but not necessarily all the notes noodling? Is playing bits of tunes noodling? And would you pleeeease let me know if I ever happen to be in your session and noodle... I'll promise to keep my eyes open for any angry stares...
No, noodling specifically is attampting to learn tunes in sessions by the trial and error method of feeling your way arround it until you think you have it.
When I said, "The nack is to play the bits of the tune you do know and simply to listen to the bits you don't." I speciffically state "don't play when you don't know it."
In order to do this you have to have the ability to transfer the phrase you have in your head straight to the instrument seemlesly. So you listen for the phrase, remember it, and once it's remembered, play it.
If you do not have that skill nailed, the only way to do it is trial and error. The crusade against nodlers is specifically aimed againg the trial and errorers. (Hmm, errorers, good word that)
But I thought "noodling" meant that irritating habit some people have of playing around with bits of a tune in the gaps between sets at sessions either in the hope that somebody (i.e. a more experienced musician) will recognise what you´re trying to play and start the next set with it, or just practising.
The gaps in the music at sessions are for sipping (or swigging) your drink, chatting to your fellow musicians, taking a look at the local talent, or whatever.
If, on the other hand, "noodling" means learning tunes on the fly as has been so clearly and succinctly described by Michael in his posting, then I´ve been "guilty" of it for years. The success of such noodling depends on the instrument you play and, of course, your playing skill.
I wouldn´t like to try it with the pipes - even if I could play them - and I imagine that the whistle, particularly in the higher octave, would be a problem in that you´ve got to hear yourself without others hearing you, which in turn means that you´ve got to know your instrument intimately (.... pause here for wisecracks ... ...).
I think that Mr llig has hit the nail fairly and squarely on the head.
As to whether a session is a public performance, that´s been thrashed out so many times on previous threads that I´d rather not go down that road.
Aye, the way I understand it, the really annoying noodler, the one who can totally ruin your whole night, is the person who 'thinks' they can pick up tunes on the 'fly' but can't, & ends up hitting all those wrong notes, in your ear, all night long, as you play the right notes!
On the other hand, the person who endlessly fecks around with little bits of tunes in between sets, when they should be chatting, relaxing, going for a pint or taking a p*ss, is just a PRAT
PRAT
noun informal
1. - Brit. an incompetent, stupid or foolish person; an idiot
2. - a person's buttocks
Donald Sutherland, Kelly's Heroes and it was "waves" not "vibes".
Acually, playing at home on your own and in a session are two different things and first time (or three) with new session people or new tunes is always a bit of a practice.
And long may it remain so.
We have a different word for the playing of bits of tunes or even making any noise on your instrument other than tuning it in between sets, it's called "faffing", as in faffing arround.
Faffers tend to be noodlers also, and vice versa. Though not exclusivly
I thought I'd take a leaf out of Bren's book & try to be a little more precise with my info, so here goes:
FAFFING:
- to spend your time doing a lot of unimportant things instead of the thing that you should be doing:
- I wish you'd stop faffing about and do something useful!
A good friend of mine in Leeds, who is a retired musician, would say "Are you playing a Japanese tune?"
He actually said that when all the musicians were tuning up. Soon he remembered I am from the country, and sincerely apologized to me. No, I was not offended!
Junji Shirota used to have me play "Above and Beyond" on the flute for his visiting Japanese friends who he told that it sounded very much like the old songs of Japan.
"There are no wrong notes: 'mistakes' can be emphasized and/or repeated, then resolved (often by half-step) to create tension and release. And all a soloist need use is his or her ears—no chord/scales or patterns." From http://www.garciamusic.com/educator/articles/thematic.dissonance.html (I love the irony of the disclaimer at the top of the page: "Errors occurred in the original publication that were not the responsibility of the author.")
"If it doesn't work the first time, do it again (brevity may be the soul of wit, but repetition is the soul of recognition). If it works the second time, go for three. If it works the third time, do something else. You're a guest in your audience's head, and the adage about fish and visitors applies. There are no wrong notes, chords, or rhythms. Only incomplete ones. When in doubt, play forcefully. When assured, play light." (http://www.vassberg.net/acousticguitar/wisdom.shtml)
"The quintet, which opened a cozy four-night engagement Thursday at Irving Plaza, harnessed the power of musical noodling and made the club bounce to the dervish dance steps of the fans working shimmy-shimmy shakes."
"It seems equally handy to...learn tunes by ear so that you can start learning tunes on the fly, at sessions, or from recordings." (From IRTRAD)
Do you practice at home & play in public?
Do you practice at home & play in public?
“Practice at home, play in public. 'Nuff said.”
I came across this quote & the ones below, when I was looking for info on a recent etiquette question for another thread, & thought some of the newcomers to 'thesession' might like to read them, especially if they are anti-noodlers too
“Please, please, please display some humility!
You might think you're God's gift to the Banjo or Bodhran, but it's possible that not everyone feels the same way.
Lack of humility is a huge turn off for me.
As I see it, the people with the worst attitudes are the ones that are the most insecure about their playing and feel like they have something to prove.
Irish Tradtional Music is an interactive art form and IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU!
Above all, you should be humbled by your instrument.”
@
http://home.aol.com/bstpt/BrianSwartz/10JamEtiquette.html
& this one:
“Another truly annoying habit (not necessarily restricted to novices) is evidenced when someone continuously "noodles around" on his/her instrument between songs.
People are often trying TUNE between songs and do not , therefore, appreciate such an activity.
If your noodling around is a (not so) subtle way of suggesting the next tune, then just go ahead and suggest the next tune!
If your noodling around is just a way of showing others how good you are, it is unnecessary, and just plain annoying.
If your noodling around is an attempt to practice a particular tune or lick, move away from the group and practice in a corner by yourself!”
@
http://www.s-w-b-a.com/pickerscorner/etiquette.htm
Has anyone managed to find quotes on the Net which support the 'benefits of noodling'?
If so, it might be interesting to see those here, to give us a balanced thread!
# Posted on June 9th 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
Did you know that - “Noodling is a form of catfishing by hand.”
http://www.lawreader.com/index.php/browse/node/6217.html
# Posted on June 9th 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
Then of course there’s - “jazz/folk-rock noodling” according to Jack Bruce!:
http://starling.rinet.ru/music/jbruce.htm
# Posted on June 9th 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
“Noodling is a form of catfishing by hand.” - we call that 'guddling' in Scotland.
# Posted on June 9th 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
There was a short documentary film on our local Public Television Station a while back on "Noodling in Oklahoma". In fact, there is an anual Noodling Tournament in Pauls Valley, Oklahoma every year. There were some pretty 'interesting' characters featured in that film. I guess it takes a certain type of person to blindly stick your hand in a dark underwater hole hoping a 50 to 100 pound catfish will bite it (rather than a snapping turtle or a beaver)!
# Posted on June 9th 2006 by jasonlburnfield
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
Interesting one this. Yes, to jy shame, in the past, I admit to having been a bit of a noodler. Long since though, I learned the error of it. And I subsiquently confined my practice to the home.
However;
Now I almost never play in the house, and pick up tunes almost exclusively in the pub. But I never play unless I know it. (apart from the occassional mistake of course, where I think I know it but very quickly realize I don't, split second)
The nack is to play the bits of the tune you do know and simply to listen to the bits you don't. And if you are really listening, which is the whole point of it, the gaps get filled pretty quickly.
Sometimes you get what I refer to as the "Bombard" effect. Like in Brittany pipe bands where the bombards come in just for snippets of tunes. I quite like it.
# Posted on June 9th 2006 by ...
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
But, Mr White Grouse, and this is maybe spliting hairs, a session is neither being at home nor playing in public. It is neither the privacy of your kitchen, nor the performance of a concert. It can't even be described as in between. It is something all together different. So, in a way, you question is nul and void
# Posted on June 9th 2006 by ...
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
Ha harm ptarm. Prof. Gill has the bollox of your query right there. Null & void is the correct conclusion. But as I said in my most recently posted thread, you can have a lay-off, but still come back, if you've been around as long you or I have been (particularly you of course....I mean of course coming *quickly* back from a lay off...)
# Posted on June 9th 2006 by Rudall the time
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
Well, fact is my question doesn't mention session, just "in public", & as you are playing in public when you play a pub session, I reckon it does count.
But anyway lads, keep noodlin if that's your bag & you could get really good at it & end up with rewards like these guys on this 'Keep on Noodlin' page:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/noodling.asp
# Posted on June 10th 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
In Old Time music there's a great tune called 'Nail that Catfish to the Tree' - well you'd need one heck of a nail to fix this tiddler to a tree:
http://xvella.free.fr/photos/photo-eng.php?sub=21&idx=687&cntp=3
# Posted on June 10th 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
***“Practice at home, play in public. 'Nuff said.”
Yes and yes...
Yes, I practice at home. I gig in public, but... ah, the almighty "but"... but I don't play ITM in public. Why? I'll tell you why... Because if I'm not at the level dictated by the leaders of the session I feel intimidated... Ha! Noodle my arse! Let's JAM!
Peace...
--gw
# Posted on June 10th 2006 by GDub
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
"Noodle my arse!" - You should be so Lucky gw!
# Posted on June 10th 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
A friend who is a good Scottish dancer, but not into the trad session thing, said to me "I think I could like it, but it always sounds as though they are practising." I felt this was a bit harsh, but she had an appreciation of music no doubt, so I went to the next session with a critical ear, and much of it it did indeed sound like a bunch of people practising together. And in fact there was a lot of practising going on. I suppose we get used to this in sessions, but to an outsider it perhaps just sounds like we don't know what we're playing, and of course a lot of the time that is true; everybody plays the version of a tune they have picked up somewhere. Tune versions give a legitimate reason perhaps to play different tunes at the same time in Irish music, but if you really want to reveal the amount of practising going on at a session, try playing a four-part Scottish pipe tune and watch how it magically becomes a two-parter, or in the case of Crossing the Minch, very nearly a one-parter ! Unfortunately, I cannot plead innocence. There is only one solution, stick to old Bothy Band sets.
# Posted on June 10th 2006 by Nick Spencer
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
"t always sounds as though they are practising" - Ouch!
Reminds me of the tourist who came up to us one time & asked us, after a particularly long spell of one set of reels after another, - "If we only knew the one tune?"!
There is also an idea, I have even heard it voiced too, in the heads os some outsiders, that not all of us actually know the tune, but that we just sort of busk along with the tunes, like some easy flowing jazz session - yeah, like the Jazz guys don't know their tunes either!
"and watch how it magically becomes a two-parter"
- Aye, this happens to me too over here Nick, every time I try & play the 'four' parts of The High Road to Linton. Fortunately the parts all sound the same, as in many pipe tunes, so it doesn't sound too bad I suppose - in a noodling sort of a way!
# Posted on June 10th 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
im the other way round i learn tunes at a sesh then pull the instrument out at home
# Posted on June 10th 2006 by Ripthecalico
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
You might want to be careful with that expression - "the other way round" 21061. In Germany it apparently means something complately different!
# Posted on June 10th 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
I play at home and in sessions as well. But I don't practice at home *in order to* play in sessions. Playing at home and playing in sessions are a bit different activities. I love playing with friends on a regular basis or with new people in new places, but I also love playing tunes nobody would know just by myself at home.
Of course, it's also true that I always try to make myself feel "at home" even in public. I believe this is what everyone does.
# Posted on June 10th 2006 by slainte
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
Ok, I'm confused... I've been reading thread after thread to work out what's noodling and what's not. Seeing as there's so many people against noodling I'm starting to get worried about not having grasped the concept of noodling (and therefore accidentially - and innocently - annoy people by noodling in sessions).
It was mentioned earlier in this thread that "The nack is to play the bits of the tune you do know and simply to listen to the bits you don't." I thought that was a way of noodling...
So what's the deal about noodling? Is playing the right notes, but not necessarily all the notes noodling? Is playing bits of tunes noodling? And would you pleeeease let me know if I ever happen to be in your session and noodle... I'll promise to keep my eyes open for any angry stares...
/J
# Posted on June 11th 2006 by jennie
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
Jennie, noodling is in the ear of the beholder.
# Posted on June 11th 2006 by Will Harmon
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
No, noodling specifically is attampting to learn tunes in sessions by the trial and error method of feeling your way arround it until you think you have it.
When I said, "The nack is to play the bits of the tune you do know and simply to listen to the bits you don't." I speciffically state "don't play when you don't know it."
In order to do this you have to have the ability to transfer the phrase you have in your head straight to the instrument seemlesly. So you listen for the phrase, remember it, and once it's remembered, play it.
If you do not have that skill nailed, the only way to do it is trial and error. The crusade against nodlers is specifically aimed againg the trial and errorers. (Hmm, errorers, good word that)
# Posted on June 11th 2006 by ...
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
But I thought "noodling" meant that irritating habit some people have of playing around with bits of a tune in the gaps between sets at sessions either in the hope that somebody (i.e. a more experienced musician) will recognise what you´re trying to play and start the next set with it, or just practising.
...).
The gaps in the music at sessions are for sipping (or swigging) your drink, chatting to your fellow musicians, taking a look at the local talent, or whatever.
If, on the other hand, "noodling" means learning tunes on the fly as has been so clearly and succinctly described by Michael in his posting, then I´ve been "guilty" of it for years. The success of such noodling depends on the instrument you play and, of course, your playing skill.
I wouldn´t like to try it with the pipes - even if I could play them - and I imagine that the whistle, particularly in the higher octave, would be a problem in that you´ve got to hear yourself without others hearing you, which in turn means that you´ve got to know your instrument intimately (.... pause here for wisecracks ...
I think that Mr llig has hit the nail fairly and squarely on the head.
As to whether a session is a public performance, that´s been thrashed out so many times on previous threads that I´d rather not go down that road.
# Posted on June 11th 2006 by murfbox
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
Aye, the way I understand it, the really annoying noodler, the one who can totally ruin your whole night, is the person who 'thinks' they can pick up tunes on the 'fly' but can't, & ends up hitting all those wrong notes, in your ear, all night long, as you play the right notes!
On the other hand, the person who endlessly fecks around with little bits of tunes in between sets, when they should be chatting, relaxing, going for a pint or taking a p*ss, is just a PRAT
PRAT
noun informal
1. - Brit. an incompetent, stupid or foolish person; an idiot
2. - a person's buttocks
# Posted on June 11th 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
I'm not really sure what the precise definition of noodling is, but whatever it is, I'm really feckin sick of people going on and on about it.
# Posted on June 11th 2006 by Dr. Dow
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
"Again with the negative vibes man!"
....can't beat a bit of 'thread noodling' now, can you 
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OK Who said that & in what movie?
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# Posted on June 11th 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
Donald Sutherland, Kelly's Heroes and it was "waves" not "vibes".
Acually, playing at home on your own and in a session are two different things and first time (or three) with new session people or new tunes is always a bit of a practice.
And long may it remain so.
# Posted on June 11th 2006 by Bren
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
We have a different word for the playing of bits of tunes or even making any noise on your instrument other than tuning it in between sets, it's called "faffing", as in faffing arround.
Faffers tend to be noodlers also, and vice versa. Though not exclusivly
# Posted on June 11th 2006 by ...
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
I plead guilty of noodling. Usually I'm trying to find the chords then play them if I don't know the melody. I promise to stop. . .really I will!
# Posted on June 11th 2006 by jrathbun
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
I thought I'd take a leaf out of Bren's book & try to be a little more precise with my info, so here goes:
FAFFING:
- to spend your time doing a lot of unimportant things instead of the thing that you should be doing:
- I wish you'd stop faffing about and do something useful!
http://www.freesearch.co.uk/dictionary/faffing
To NOODLE:
- to play a musical instrument without giving it full or serious attention:
- I just sat at the piano noodling.
http://www.freesearch.co.uk/dictionary/noodling
# Posted on June 11th 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
A good friend of mine in Leeds, who is a retired musician, would say "Are you playing a Japanese tune?"
He actually said that when all the musicians were tuning up. Soon he remembered I am from the country, and sincerely apologized to me. No, I was not offended!
# Posted on June 11th 2006 by slainte
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
Junji Shirota used to have me play "Above and Beyond" on the flute for his visiting Japanese friends who he told that it sounded very much like the old songs of Japan.
# Posted on June 11th 2006 by Phantom Button
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
ITM has it's own definition for this word.
To NOODLE:
- to play notes randomly trying to follow along hoping that it will sound like you know the tune.
# Posted on June 11th 2006 by Phantom Button
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
Button - it is time for you to compile an ITM Dictionary!
# Posted on June 11th 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
I don't need to practice, said he showing great humility.
# Posted on June 12th 2006 by bodhran bliss
Re: Do you practice at home & play in public?
I'm bored at work. So here goes.
"There are no wrong notes: 'mistakes' can be emphasized and/or repeated, then resolved (often by half-step) to create tension and release. And all a soloist need use is his or her ears—no chord/scales or patterns." From http://www.garciamusic.com/educator/articles/thematic.dissonance.html (I love the irony of the disclaimer at the top of the page: "Errors occurred in the original publication that were not the responsibility of the author.")
"If it doesn't work the first time, do it again (brevity may be the soul of wit, but repetition is the soul of recognition). If it works the second time, go for three. If it works the third time, do something else. You're a guest in your audience's head, and the adage about fish and visitors applies. There are no wrong notes, chords, or rhythms. Only incomplete ones. When in doubt, play forcefully. When assured, play light." (http://www.vassberg.net/acousticguitar/wisdom.shtml)
"The quintet, which opened a cozy four-night engagement Thursday at Irving Plaza, harnessed the power of musical noodling and made the club bounce to the dervish dance steps of the fans working shimmy-shimmy shakes."
"It seems equally handy to...learn tunes by ear so that you can start learning tunes on the fly, at sessions, or from recordings." (From IRTRAD)
LMAO
# Posted on June 12th 2006 by Will Harmon