HA! Let me explain what sparked the question. I was recently in Galway and heard an accordian player on the street playing a tune that I could've sworn was an O'Carolyn tune. So I asked him and he said it was Handel. Unfortunately I can't remember the name of it and it's driving me crazy.
The first part of the Coleraine Jig is obviously a take on a French Horn concerto - I think that was by Handel. Also one of the tunes on the Anthem LP by De Danann is classical although they don't call it by the correct name.It's a different one to the Queen of Sheba thingy.
Bach didn't compose that romantic piano piece simply because piano hadn't been invented yet. He actually did a choral choir with the same melody for Cantata 147 under a totally different title.
derek warfeild told me that handel loved ireland and the irish. probably because my last name is handel, i'm german + italian, own an irish resort, and play whistle!
I think you're all missing the point: cthuilleannpiper made a totally inappropriate slur against the Chicago Cubs. I only hope you're not one of those White Sox "fans" who never wore a Sox hat until after the Sox won the World Series.
All in good fun, of course. I'll let the Gold Coast bit stand.
Hey, I didn't know you played for the Chicago Cubs - Phantom Button? Isn't that you right in the middle? Just another one of your many skills & hidden talents eh?:
Georg Friedrich Händel (umlaut ) spent several years in London. Rob, I wonder if your forefathers were really called Handel because it sounds rather uncommon in German.It translates as 'trade'.
In his History of Irish Music Mr. Flood says Handel spent some time in Ireland and Messiah was written for the Charitable Music Society of Mercer's hospital, Dublin. And Mister Handel "would have rather been the author of "Eibhlin A Ruin" than any of his own compositions."
'Carolans Concerto' was inspired by 'Corelli' who influenced many of his contemporaries and succeeding generations including Handel and Bach. Slightly off the track but maybe relevant.
I won't post it as a tune, but here is the gist of it if anyone fancies a go. If the second instrument enters in canon, it makes a great duet. (I can suggest what might work as a second part if anyone is interested)
i think my grandfather "americanized" it when he came over. he came to america not too long after WWII, so there was a lot of anti-german seniment. he also switched his middle and first names. his name was manfred robert handel, but he changed it to robert manfred handel.
Handel
Handel
How many Handel tunes, and which ones, have you all encountered at sessions?
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by PurpleHayes007
Re: Handel
None, and may it please the Gods that I never will.
That's North Side (Chicago) music for Cubs fans and Gold Coast dwellers.
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Hanley
Re: Handel
HA! Let me explain what sparked the question. I was recently in Galway and heard an accordian player on the street playing a tune that I could've sworn was an O'Carolyn tune. So I asked him and he said it was Handel. Unfortunately I can't remember the name of it and it's driving me crazy.
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by PurpleHayes007
Re: Handel
IF I ever encountered a Handel tune at a session, I'll be damned if I recognise it as Handel!
Joe
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Joe CSS
Re: Handel
Can't handel this thread, eh?
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Phantom Button
Re: Handel
The first part of the Coleraine Jig is obviously a take on a French Horn concerto - I think that was by Handel. Also one of the tunes on the Anthem LP by De Danann is classical although they don't call it by the correct name.It's a different one to the Queen of Sheba thingy.
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Conán McDonnell
Re: Handel
Not Handel, but I have heard that Bach's Jeus Joy of Man's Desiring makes an excellent slip jig.
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by folkie musicie junkie
Re: Handel
"How many of his tunes did Handel rob at sessions?" might be a more appropriate question
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Backer
Re: Handel
Bach didn't compose that romantic piano piece simply because piano hadn't been invented yet. He actually did a choral choir with the same melody for Cantata 147 under a totally different title.
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by slainte
Re: Handel
Who did record The Entrance of The Queen of Sheba? I heard it once on the radio.
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by oldstrings
Re: Handel
De Danann again, who else?
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Conán McDonnell
Re: Handel
There's that Pachebel's Frolics tune - maybe he thought that was by Handel ....
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Ottery
Re: Handel
“The Arrival of the Queen of Sheba in Galway” is on the “Song For Ireland” album.
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Bob himself
Re: Handel
Pachelbel's Frolics - by Handel. Reminds me of that old quiz question: What was the name of the ship in "Mutiny on the Bounty?".
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Conán McDonnell
Re: Handel
Now that's just madness.
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by folkie musicie junkie
Re: Handel
I think they called it the Golden Hind didn't they ?
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Justintime
Re: Handel
Was the tune "O'Carolan's Draught"?
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by dafydd
Re: Handel
This is what we find,
This is what we find,
This is what we find,
This is what we find -
They must have had a funny time, on the Golden Hind
I reckon Ian Dury had it about right, it definitely wasn't madness.
Which reminds me of a a rather bad joke ....
Suggs was giving a talk on the rights of lesbian fathers.
Sounds like madness gone politically correct!
I'll get me coat .....
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Ottery
Re: Handel
actually 'baroque fiddle' is reminiscent of Handel minuets, same sweeping phrasing.
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Joze
Re: Handel
derek warfeild told me that handel loved ireland and the irish. probably because my last name is handel, i'm german + italian, own an irish resort, and play whistle!
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by rob_handel
Re: Handel
I think you're all missing the point: cthuilleannpiper made a totally inappropriate slur against the Chicago Cubs. I only hope you're not one of those White Sox "fans" who never wore a Sox hat until after the Sox won the World Series.
All in good fun, of course. I'll let the Gold Coast bit stand.
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by smw
Re: Handel
who are the chicago cubs? do they play rugby?
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by Joze
Re: Handel
Here they are - the Chicago Cubs:
http://www.sheffield-collegiate-cc.org.uk/index.php?spgmGal=teamphotos&spgmPic=6&spgmFilters=&option=com_mambospgm&Itemid=47#pic
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: Handel
Found them again:
http://www.causewaymusic.co.uk/chicago_cubs.html
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by Ptarmigan
Totally OTT
how does one get a list of overseas players playing counties cricket?
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by Joze
Re: Handel
http://www.opdr.net
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by joesmith
Re: Handel
Didn't Handel's Messiah debut in Dublin?? I've always thought you could play Handel in an ITM mode.
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by I_Fel
Re: Handel
Are sure he didn't say that the tune was 'all he could Handle'?
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by Donough
Re: Handel
Hey, I didn't know you played for the Chicago Cubs - Phantom Button? Isn't that you right in the middle? Just another one of your many skills & hidden talents eh?:
http://www.causewaymusic.co.uk/chicago_cubs.html
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: Handel
We used to feature Le Rejounaissance from his Royal Fireworks music on accordion and whistle. That was a great duet.
Just as a reminder
X: 1
T:Le Rejounaissance
M:4/4
L:1/8
K:G
D2|:G2G2G2G2|GABA G2 GA|B2B2B2B2|Bcdc B2 Bc|
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by geoffwright
Re: Handel
Joy of Man's Desiring by J.S. Bach makes a great jig.
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by Frunobulax
Re: Handel
yeah i've heard that version of the queen of sheba
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by JoeOConnor10
Re: Handel
Georg Friedrich Händel (umlaut ) spent several years in London. Rob, I wonder if your forefathers were really called Handel because it sounds rather uncommon in German.It translates as 'trade'.
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by kuec
Re: Handel
In his History of Irish Music Mr. Flood says Handel spent some time in Ireland and Messiah was written for the Charitable Music Society of Mercer's hospital, Dublin. And Mister Handel "would have rather been the author of "Eibhlin A Ruin" than any of his own compositions."
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by baglady
Re: Handel
'Carolans Concerto' was inspired by 'Corelli' who influenced many of his contemporaries and succeeding generations including Handel and Bach. Slightly off the track but maybe relevant.
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by Twiz
Re: Handel
my grandfather immigrated from Germany, and he said that him and his father traced our geneology back to handel
# Posted on June 3rd 2006 by rob_handel
Re: Handel
I won't post it as a tune, but here is the gist of it if anyone fancies a go. If the second instrument enters in canon, it makes a great duet. (I can suggest what might work as a second part if anyone is interested)
X: 1
T:Le Rejounaissance
M:4/4
L:1/8
Q:260
K:G
D2|:G2G2G2G2|GABA G2 GA|B2B2B2B2|Bcdc B2 Bc|
d2d2d2d2|d2B4g2|d2B4g2|d2B4d2|!
d2 ed c2 B2|A6d2|d2 ed c2 B2|A3B A3B|
ABAB ABAB|A6A2|B^cde "tr."c3d|d6:|!
A2|:A2Bcd2B2|A6GB|A6GB|A6d2|
d2efg2e2|d6ce|d6ce|d6d2|!
e2e2edce|d2d2dcBd|c2c2cBAc|B2B2BAGB|
A2A2A2Bc|B2G2G2AB|c2A2A2Bc|d2B2B2cd|
# Posted on June 3rd 2006 by geoffwright
Re: Handel
kuec- Handel was a german composer who was employed by england
# Posted on June 4th 2006 by rob_handel
Re: Handel
Yes - but the name was Haendel, not Handel.(see above)
# Posted on June 5th 2006 by kuec
Re: Handel
i think my grandfather "americanized" it when he came over. he came to america not too long after WWII, so there was a lot of anti-german seniment. he also switched his middle and first names. his name was manfred robert handel, but he changed it to robert manfred handel.
# Posted on June 6th 2006 by rob_handel