All this talk of fast versus slow, old versus young brought to mind the adage of the young bull grazing along side the old bull atop the hill overlooking a pasture filled cows.
It has taken me a long while to really understand this message but believe me when I say I much prefer to walk!
All those youngsters moaning about old fogies should realise that in a couple of decades or so they will be old fogies too, and the yougsters will be moaning about them.
If I tell you that I accept I could learn from you then do you accept that you could learn from me? If so, then learn this: that it's not about young and old. The more you play and the more people you play with and the more places in the world you play in, the more you'll come to realise that the session scene is not divided between young and old. It's divided between people who listen and people who don't listen. Between people who have a mutual respect for one another and those who think they have nothing to learn from that person over there "because his technique isn't as good as mine" or "because he doesn't know as many tunes as I do" or "because he can't play as fast as I do". If you can be one of those people who is willing to put away your ego and open your ears and mind and learn from others, you have nothing to lose, and your musical skills can only improve.
Good on yer Dow--tis all about egos , open minds, listening, and enlightenment. Trouble is there's too many egos and ( in some quarters ) a dearth of the remainder.
Very nicely put Dow. There are always things that we cannpt come up with ourselves, and the only way to learn them is to listen to other people.
There is a buddhist saying that goes along the lines of "he who thinks himself better than another is worse than all." Although, that could not be it and it could be from a different religion completly. I am way more at home with Joe's Talmud quote.
"May you find sweet inspiration -
May your memory not be dull
May you rise to dizzy success
May your wit be quick and strong
May you constantly amaze us
May your answers not be wrong
May your head be on your shoulders
May your tongue be in your cheek
And most of all we pray that you may come back next week !
Be a Quizz Kid
Be a Whizz Kid"
From - “Quizz Kid”
Ian Anderson 1976
On Jethro Tull’s album - “Too Old To Rock'n'Roll”
Let's see if I can explain this one without getting banned; Young bull says to old bull- "Let's run down there and 'enjoy the company' of one of those cows."
Old bull answers- "Let's walk down there and 'enjoy' them all."
I was waiting for your response and I’m here to say I was not disappointed in the least! Thanks man, you’re on the top of your game! Ah, Jethro Tull, now where was that park bench?
Murph wins! The way you worded your response on might think you are employed in the diplomatic service or perhaps a politician.
Dow,
There is no doubt in my mind that we can all take away valuable lessons from one another regardless of station, age, or intelligence. I am firmly convinced that the very moment that I believe I know all there is to know I will stop learning. Now that to me would be a very hollow existence!
Could I just remind people that Barnet Folk Club has moved from The Old Bull, and is now at the Arts Centre in North Finchley ?
There.
I feel better for that.
The Old Bull…
The Old Bull…
All this talk of fast versus slow, old versus young brought to mind the adage of the young bull grazing along side the old bull atop the hill overlooking a pasture filled cows.
It has taken me a long while to really understand this message but believe me when I say I much prefer to walk!
Peace,
Ed
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by ejsant
Re: The Old Bull…
"...overlooking a pasture filled * cows."
* "with"
(should have walked)
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by ejsant
Re: The Old Bull…
All those youngsters moaning about old fogies should realise that in a couple of decades or so they will be old fogies too, and the yougsters will be moaning about them.
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Bernie
Re: The Old Bull…
Could have been a pasture-filled cow.....
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Nick Spencer
Re: The Old Bull…
I think that the young have lessons to learn from the old, and the old could stand to learn things from the young, and neither realize it.
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Zazzaliss
Re: The Old Bull…
If I tell you that I accept I could learn from you then do you accept that you could learn from me? If so, then learn this: that it's not about young and old. The more you play and the more people you play with and the more places in the world you play in, the more you'll come to realise that the session scene is not divided between young and old. It's divided between people who listen and people who don't listen. Between people who have a mutual respect for one another and those who think they have nothing to learn from that person over there "because his technique isn't as good as mine" or "because he doesn't know as many tunes as I do" or "because he can't play as fast as I do". If you can be one of those people who is willing to put away your ego and open your ears and mind and learn from others, you have nothing to lose, and your musical skills can only improve.
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Dow
Re: The Old Bull…
Good on yer Dow--tis all about egos , open minds, listening, and enlightenment. Trouble is there's too many egos and ( in some quarters ) a dearth of the remainder.
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by duffgen
Re: The Old Bull…
As it says in the Talmud:
"Who is wise? He who learns from everyone"
Sorry, I had to say it...
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by Joe CSS
Re: The Old Bull…
Is it the one about "It's getting a bit chilly, I think I'll go and slip into a Jersey"?
# Posted on June 1st 2006 by oldstrings
Re: The Old Bull…
Very nicely put Dow. There are always things that we cannpt come up with ourselves, and the only way to learn them is to listen to other people.
There is a buddhist saying that goes along the lines of "he who thinks himself better than another is worse than all." Although, that could not be it and it could be from a different religion completly. I am way more at home with Joe's Talmud quote.
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by Unseen122
Re: The Old Bull…
Know how you feel Ed.
On the one hand you have this:
http://www.pbase.com/photographer_riverside/image/57040846
& on the other you have this:
http://www.photographersdirect.com/buyers/stockphoto.asp?imageid=499389
Both looking at this:
http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Netherlands/photo180089.htm
On the other hand:
"May you find sweet inspiration -
May your memory not be dull
May you rise to dizzy success
May your wit be quick and strong
May you constantly amaze us
May your answers not be wrong
May your head be on your shoulders
May your tongue be in your cheek
And most of all we pray that you may come back next week !
Be a Quizz Kid
Be a Whizz Kid"
From - “Quizz Kid”
Ian Anderson 1976
On Jethro Tull’s album - “Too Old To Rock'n'Roll”
Anyone got a cushion for this fence?
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by Ptarmigan
Re: The Old Bull…
Sorry Ed, I just really don't get this. And I grew up on a farm. You gotta walk on a farm. Who's walking? I'd ride a tractor.
A: I know... Milk Cow Blues!
B: What!?!
C: No, that's Bob Wills.
A: Riiiiight.
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by Meri-pixie
Re: The Old Bull…
Let's see if I can explain this one without getting banned; Young bull says to old bull- "Let's run down there and 'enjoy the company' of one of those cows."
Old bull answers- "Let's walk down there and 'enjoy' them all."
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by Murph
Re: The Old Bull…
Greetings Ptarmy, my fine feathered friend,
I was waiting for your response and I’m here to say I was not disappointed in the least! Thanks man, you’re on the top of your game! Ah, Jethro Tull, now where was that park bench?
Murph wins! The way you worded your response on might think you are employed in the diplomatic service or perhaps a politician.
Dow,
There is no doubt in my mind that we can all take away valuable lessons from one another regardless of station, age, or intelligence. I am firmly convinced that the very moment that I believe I know all there is to know I will stop learning. Now that to me would be a very hollow existence!
Peace,
Ed
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by ejsant
Re: The Old Bull…
Sounds like a bunch of bull to me......
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by AlBrown
Re: The Old Bull…
Actually Al, there were only two but there was a bunch of cows!
Have a good weekend everyone.
Peace,
Ed
# Posted on June 2nd 2006 by ejsant
Re: The Old Bull…
And remember the Scholar in The Canterbury Tales
Who would gladly learn, and gladly teach.
# Posted on June 3rd 2006 by oldstrings
Re: The Old Bull…
Could I just remind people that Barnet Folk Club has moved from The Old Bull, and is now at the Arts Centre in North Finchley ?
There.
I feel better for that.
# Posted on June 6th 2006 by Guernsey Pete