The Celtic Tiger's effects on Irish Music in Amerikay
The Celtic Tiger's effects on Irish Music in Amerikay
I was listening to an old recording where a fiddler was commenting on the loss of Irish musicians to America. It got me to thinking. Over the last hundred years and more, some truly great musicians have moved from Ireland to the States and other areas of the world. But has this continued since the birth of the Celtic Tiger? Or has the trend reversed, with musicians moving back or not even coming over?
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Great question Jode. I can't answer it directly though, but I know that many musicians, pulled along with many many more non-musicians, have returned, or *emigrated* to Ireland as the tide of the latest diaspora has ebbed from London. And that isn't just the likes of John Carty and Niall Keegan. Another one of London's top flute players will soon be on the move also. So it's not just an (Irish-) American question.
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Well, I am not blaming anyone for moving back. Two friends of mine moved back and a third left town to another part of the States right around the same time. To say that there was a noticeable difference is only to relate the obvious. But how will these types of changes play out over time?
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You're right 2106, t's all down to commerce - supply and demand!!! If you wanna make a living as a trad musician you'll play were people are willing to pay for it.
We have a culture in ireland were people are spoilt - irish music is on their doorstep. The celtic tiger has helped to a certain extent, as musicians could earn a living in certain areas playing regularly (and staying off the sauce) in sessions for money, but I don't think it's a big enough attraction for most to return home. The attraction is probably nostalgia or maybe even Magnetic South!!!
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So, with the possible reversal of this trend, what will happen to Irish music outside of Ireland? In many towns, there were always a group of the "old boys", and they spawned another generation of musicians. They were the foundation, the rock upon which local scenes were built. When these people finally pass on, what will become of the music outside of Ireland?
The Celtic Tiger's effects on Irish Music in Amerikay
The Celtic Tiger's effects on Irish Music in Amerikay
I was listening to an old recording where a fiddler was commenting on the loss of Irish musicians to America. It got me to thinking. Over the last hundred years and more, some truly great musicians have moved from Ireland to the States and other areas of the world. But has this continued since the birth of the Celtic Tiger? Or has the trend reversed, with musicians moving back or not even coming over?
# Posted on May 18th 2006 by Jode
Re: The Celtic Tiger's effects on Irish Music in Amerikay
Great question Jode. I can't answer it directly though, but I know that many musicians, pulled along with many many more non-musicians, have returned, or *emigrated* to Ireland as the tide of the latest diaspora has ebbed from London. And that isn't just the likes of John Carty and Niall Keegan. Another one of London's top flute players will soon be on the move also. So it's not just an (Irish-) American question.
# Posted on May 18th 2006 by Key Maniac Lad
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Ireland was not taxing artists' income--is that still the case? If so, that could be significant incentive for musicians to live there.
# Posted on May 18th 2006 by Will CPT
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Well, I am not blaming anyone for moving back. Two friends of mine moved back and a third left town to another part of the States right around the same time. To say that there was a noticeable difference is only to relate the obvious. But how will these types of changes play out over time?
# Posted on May 18th 2006 by Jode
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A lot of British and American musicians - not necessarily of Irish persuasion - have moved to Ireland. A new Belle Epoque?
# Posted on May 18th 2006 by Bren
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Its all about the business
# Posted on May 19th 2006 by Ripthecalico
Re: The Celtic Tiger's effects on Irish Music in Amerikay
You're right 2106, t's all down to commerce - supply and demand!!! If you wanna make a living as a trad musician you'll play were people are willing to pay for it.
We have a culture in ireland were people are spoilt - irish music is on their doorstep. The celtic tiger has helped to a certain extent, as musicians could earn a living in certain areas playing regularly (and staying off the sauce) in sessions for money, but I don't think it's a big enough attraction for most to return home. The attraction is probably nostalgia or maybe even Magnetic South!!!
# Posted on May 21st 2006 by Shtrum
Re: The Celtic Tiger's effects on Irish Music in Amerikay
So, with the possible reversal of this trend, what will happen to Irish music outside of Ireland? In many towns, there were always a group of the "old boys", and they spawned another generation of musicians. They were the foundation, the rock upon which local scenes were built. When these people finally pass on, what will become of the music outside of Ireland?
# Posted on May 22nd 2006 by Jode