Do you sit in a certain seat at your session? What do you do if some stranger sits on your seat?
At a recent session somebody sat in my seat and it upset me (not blubbering all over the place but I felt uncomfortable to be out of position). I was surprised by my reaction because I am not normally so anal. Is this a normal reaction or do I need to find an understanding therapist?
There are no "regular" seats at any of the session around here. I always try to sit next to different players at each session. I can hear different things, get a chance to socialize with different people. Mixes things up a little bit.
We used to do this but after years of playing together at this particular session we all have our own little areas, close to the bar/toilet/window/fire etc whatever your preference!
We do two "paid" sessions a week. One works better than the other because we have a reserved table, and four of us sit facing the punters more or less, and "visiting" musicians, many of whom are regulars now, complete the circle at the table.
This clearly establishes the fact that there is music on. We get the T.V turned off, and if anyone is in our seats they are TOLD to move. This arrangement works.
At the other place we end up sitting at a different table every week. This disrupts the music and overall effect, and some weeks we substitute cardboard cut outs for us, collect the money, and go. They also have a TV on, with the sound turned down, which is a nonsense.
Now I might appear to be fussy, but if the owner is willing to pay for entertainment, you would think he might make an effort. I mean, I play at this session, one would imagine that I would be shown the required deference.
If it is an open session, you must get one of your friends to get your seat back for you. "We like it when old fudgy-duddy sits there because the fiddle projects well from there."
At the sesh in the Plough, the hosts for the night get the cushy bench and nearby seats. These seats are a little more comfortable, but we have the added advantage of observing the on-goings in the pub. With the wall right behind your head you can hear each other better as well. The seats facing the wall are first-come first-serve. Somethings the goings on are very entertaining... so I like the seat I get on the nights when I'm hosting.
Then of course we have special reserved seats for anyone who's sleeping their way into the sessionl.
"How do you tell someone to move without causing offence? "
I used to have to ask people to move -- and I hated it. I finally told the publican that if he wanted us at that particular table he'd have to have the bar staff ask them to move or make a sign that says, "Reserved for musicians." The new sign works great.
Usually at our sesh people in the session will watch each other's seats when we go for a pint etc. If someone goes to sit in it we'll say something like, "Uh... I think so and so is sittting there already."
I've not been to too many sessions where offending someone is too much of a concern. Especially about a seat.
All I can say Jack, must be a one helluva session to get someone to sleep their way into it. Sounds like a good topic for a new thread so you can enlighten the masses - lol
You can't really TELL someone to move without causing offence. But hey, don't I have feelings, do I not deserve respect. This is my seat we are talking about remember.
It also helps if you explain that disability pension isn't really a lot of money.
When I go to a session I have not attended before I always ask about the seating arrangements so as not to cause offence, I was shocked when the offending person refused to move when they were politely asked. I wish I could be one of those people who had the ba$$s to tell someone straight out to move it or lose it but I hate confrontation. I am just glad to know tht there are others out their who have "their seats"
BTW Jode its not a paid gig but there are a few of us that have been there since the beginning who are "leaders" - I hate that term but we do hold the thing together and have been keeping it going for years!
"All I can say Jack, must be a one helluva session to get someone to sleep their way into it. Sounds like a good topic for a new thread so you can enlighten the masses - lol"
This is something Kerri says she does -- you'll have to ask her about it. We're anxiously awaiting her arrival at our session... or anyone else like her. We haven't had any of that sort of thing at our sesh yet. Could be interesting... unless she's talking about falling asleep at sessions.
Thanks Jack Anchor sounds better than leader especially for this particular session. Perhaps the word that rhymes with anchor could be used for the person who refused to move from the seat, then we would all have appropriate titles
LOL - Well with Kerri, who can say. More likely passing out from the libations than falling asleep. Could it just be some quirky Canadian custom. Shanghai-ing musicians? I saw those fangs - kinda scary!
I could see finding a habitual place and gravitating to it. Sessions around here are often placed in the middle of large rooms, so there is not often a nice corner spot.
Still Fudge, if you look on the bright side, perhaps you would think of different tunes with a new perspective?
Hang on, hang on. I'll not be misrepresented here! I was *accused* of sleeping my way into a session, ladies and gentlemen. A little dignity and decorum, PLEASE. In this country, we're innocent until proven guilty.
The worst thing in my neck of the woods is when, after you've nipped out for a smoke for 5 or ten mins (usually three or four of us), you find your seats are taken by "famous" diddlers. They get the same treatment as anyone of course, and most agree and appologise. But there's always the odd one who thinks you are being rude to them.
I see this varying greatly, but if you are in a regular venue from week-to-week, then some consideration at least needs to be given to the regular or routine seating arrangements, particularly if the venue is a bit noisier some weeks than others. You have found a seat in which you feel comfortable, and that comfort is most likely due to a couple of reasons that affect the overall tone and flow of the session.
As a bodhranai, I feel I can sit or stand just about anywhere (within reason, naturally) and be relatively comfortable with the set-up (providing, of course, that the drum isn't situated in close proximity to a stringed instrument player's right ear). Some folks really like to sit in a specific place, and I have seen them walk away from a session if what they perceive as their regular spot has been taken up by someone else prior to their arrival. I once was rather accommodating and deferential toward certain of the fiddlers and a couple of other folks, even when they showed up more than an hour into the session. Now, it's pretty much everyone for themself, as far as I'm concerned -- with a couple of notable exceptions. We seem to have had a fair amount of assistance from the employees of the place where we play when it comes to moving the punters out of the way. We'll have to see what develops as we explore new venues, beginning this autumn.
Now Michael, bodhrans are instruments too. I wouldn't expect a bodhran player to give up his seat for me. If there were a few of them I'd expect one of them to offer a seat to another instrument player, but that would be the exeption.
Getting punter to move:
Find out what car he drives and then go up to him/her and say is that blue Ford out in the car park theirs. Then ask them did they have a puncture, because you're sure you saw someone taking off one of the wheels.
The trouble with getting there early is that you may end up surrounded with all the wrong people. Get there late and all the good positions are taken. The golden moment is just after the music has started but not everyone has arrived. You can read the geographical tone of the session and wait for the optimum time to take your seat, ie chat at the bar. Alternatively arrange to arrive with or at the same time as the 'desirables'
Do I sound elitist or what!
Don't sit there, that chair is reserved for the bodhranist - it's of the electric variety.
A couple regularly appear 2 hours late at a certain session I go to, carrying 8 instruments, and expect seats (and room for their junk) to be available. They are a little thick-skinned (with heads to match).
Apologies Pingu for going back over old ground, I was tired and annoyed when I posted this and a little concerned that I was over reacting to being dethroned.
"A couple regularly appear 2 hours late....expect seats..."
Geoff I hate when this happens at our session especially when its raining and big wet cases are sent in past you wetting you, people squeezing in with their wet smelly coats, then passing back out because they realise there is not enough room in the spot they were aiming for even though a blind man could have told them this before they made the big trip. Then they remember they left something in their case so the case is passed back out again almost either knocking the drinks off the table or bumping into your head, then when everyone has been sufficiently annoyed by these late arrivals they either start off a tune that has been played already or spend the next 10 mins tunning a really loud banjo while carrying on a conversation with someone at the far side of the room. Wow and I thought it was bad when I had an issue with someone taking my seat!!
No apology needed. It's probably down to me being too lazy to contribute again. But the thing about coming in late - I invariably do, often arriving at 10 when the session started at 9, and yet I live the nearest (about 2 minutes up ther road) - but often this is down to having to put a 2-year old to bed then falling asleep myself! But everyone is gracious enough to say nothing and keep a seat for me.
"...A little dignity and decorum, PLEASE. ...thank you."
# Posted on Thursday, July 14th 2005 by Kerri Brown
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"...you guys are anal retentive."
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So Kerri, was that just an observation about the posters, made with all the dignity and decorum that this site inspires? I don't understand Pingu, what contradiction?
It's interesting - kerri is one of the few people who is readily 'discussed' -- it's great that you have found something so fetching to occupy your time and energy with. keeps you out of the bath houses?
Wasn't rule 5 of the recently posted rules of music "Pull my Finger" ( apparently it produces gas ) ?
I don't think anyone would try and pinch a musicians' seat at our session, unless they were a musician, of course.
But we tend to float around the bar a bit - the best acoustics are at the side, under a flat ceiling, but there's a pillar in the middle of this area so you always feel cut off from at least one other person.
We always re-arrange the seating a bit for the session anyway, don't think there's an optimum arrangement.
PS never heard of anyone sleeping their way into a session - now if you'll be talking academic careers, that was another matter.
Nice one BegF. Four of the not so good melody players you mentioned who go to my session are regulars on this site, I am sure they will treasure your opinion of them.
Read again Bliss, it's YOU saying the Bodhran players are
the most talanted, and again you twist what people say to
suit your arguments, this is becoming quite the habit for you.
As for my playing, I make no claims or boasts - something you can't say.
Moi, twisting things. I said the bodhran player(s) were usually the most talented. YOU said that's because good melody players avoid bodhrans. There are not too many ways you can twist that.
I don't make boasts by the way, just honest claims. I hate hypocrisy and false modesty. Can you imagine Michael Jordan saying he wasn't very good at basketball, it would make one cringe.
Let's use actual quotes shall we, as I never said good melody players avoid bodhrans, and you never said bodhrans players were usually the most talanted This is just another twist of yours.
"Maybe the "drum banger" is the most talented one there, as happens all the time at our sessions." - Bliss
Aint too many ways I can twist that.
In another recent thread you said (twisted) that I had scorned Ewan McColl even though now is the first time I have ever mentioned him on this site.
In yet another you again twisted that we were all unhelpful to fiddlemax, when everyone was giving advice..
As for honest claims - false modesty is one thing, CONSTANTLY reminding people that others have called you the best bodhran player in the world, or slipping in comments like "let's face it Frankie Kennedy was 18 when he asked
me to teach him the tin whistle" when they are totally out of context (but just dying to get out) smacks of w ank.
You never did mention Ewan McColl. On the "Are you into it" thread, you suggested that I should perhaps put my finger in my ear, as though to do so was somewhat posing or stupid. I then mentioned Ewan McColl.
The Frankie Kennedy bit is actually interesting because it shows the impact we have on the "outsiders", those not into ITM. I didn't play the whistle, my friend did. Frankie had seen us loads of times but it didn't register.
And if you think it could only happen to me, a woman who had seen a group of us play hundreds of times once said to me, "That bodhran player is home". When I asked "Who" she then went on to describe a monster who used to play with us, and had moved to Galway.
"That bodhran player" was in fact about the best banjo player you ever heard, also very good doing harmonies on the whistle for songs. But it didn't register with this woman.
You could start a thread about this, "what do audiences see", but in truth I am merely rambling because I am bored with extracting the urine.
Just think what you could do with all that phosphorous!
sorry, my little obscure chemistry joke. Come to think of it... what would one do with a whole lot of phosphorous? Sell it to 17th century alchemists, possibly. Nevermind.
To get back to the topic (take a deep breath there, BegF and blisster, and step away from your sidearms ):
I have a favorite seat at our sessions, it is a metal folding chair that I brought into the pub myself, and gets stored in the corner. I weigh in at about 260 pounds when fully dressed, and like leaning back against the chair, so I like having a bit of support. I once cracked one of the lightweight wooden chairs our publican usually puts out--quite embarassing. So there are practical reasons for wanting a particular seat!
Ponderously yours,
AL
Seating Arrangements
Seating Arrangements
Do you sit in a certain seat at your session? What do you do if some stranger sits on your seat?
At a recent session somebody sat in my seat and it upset me (not blubbering all over the place but I felt uncomfortable to be out of position). I was surprised by my reaction because I am not normally so anal. Is this a normal reaction or do I need to find an understanding therapist?
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by Fudge
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There are no "regular" seats at any of the session around here. I always try to sit next to different players at each session. I can hear different things, get a chance to socialize with different people. Mixes things up a little bit.
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by RogueFiddler
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We used to do this but after years of playing together at this particular session we all have our own little areas, close to the bar/toilet/window/fire etc whatever your preference!
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by Fudge
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We do two "paid" sessions a week. One works better than the other because we have a reserved table, and four of us sit facing the punters more or less, and "visiting" musicians, many of whom are regulars now, complete the circle at the table.
This clearly establishes the fact that there is music on. We get the T.V turned off, and if anyone is in our seats they are TOLD to move. This arrangement works.
At the other place we end up sitting at a different table every week. This disrupts the music and overall effect, and some weeks we substitute cardboard cut outs for us, collect the money, and go. They also have a TV on, with the sound turned down, which is a nonsense.
Now I might appear to be fussy, but if the owner is willing to pay for entertainment, you would think he might make an effort. I mean, I play at this session, one would imagine that I would be shown the required deference.
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by bodhran bliss
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How do you tell someone to move without causing offence?
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by Fudge
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Is it a paid gig, or an open session?
If it is an open session, you must get one of your friends to get your seat back for you. "We like it when old fudgy-duddy sits there because the fiddle projects well from there."
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by Jode
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At the sesh in the Plough, the hosts for the night get the cushy bench and nearby seats. These seats are a little more comfortable, but we have the added advantage of observing the on-goings in the pub. With the wall right behind your head you can hear each other better as well. The seats facing the wall are first-come first-serve. Somethings the goings on are very entertaining... so I like the seat I get on the nights when I'm hosting.
Then of course we have special reserved seats for anyone who's sleeping their way into the sessionl.
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by Phantom Button
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easy, you just say, "sorry mate, someone else is sat here". If they take offence then they deserve worse
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by llig leahcim
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"How do you tell someone to move without causing offence? "
I used to have to ask people to move -- and I hated it. I finally told the publican that if he wanted us at that particular table he'd have to have the bar staff ask them to move or make a sign that says, "Reserved for musicians." The new sign works great.
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by Phantom Button
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Pardon me, it is not my intent to offend you, however you are in my seat?
Peace,
Ed
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by ejsant
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oops... you were referring to a different situation regarding seats.
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by Phantom Button
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Usually at our sesh people in the session will watch each other's seats when we go for a pint etc. If someone goes to sit in it we'll say something like, "Uh... I think so and so is sittting there already."
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by Phantom Button
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I've not been to too many sessions where offending someone is too much of a concern. Especially about a seat.
All I can say Jack, must be a one helluva session to get someone to sleep their way into it. Sounds like a good topic for a new thread so you can enlighten the masses - lol
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by RogueFiddler
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You can't really TELL someone to move without causing offence. But hey, don't I have feelings, do I not deserve respect. This is my seat we are talking about remember.
It also helps if you explain that disability pension isn't really a lot of money.
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by bodhran bliss
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M.G is right again, as usual. The original offence has been given by the carpet bagging, land grabbing, seat thieving mother.
If he or she take offence, tough. Then you get heavy.
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by bodhran bliss
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When I go to a session I have not attended before I always ask about the seating arrangements so as not to cause offence, I was shocked when the offending person refused to move when they were politely asked. I wish I could be one of those people who had the ba$$s to tell someone straight out to move it or lose it but I hate confrontation. I am just glad to know tht there are others out their who have "their seats"
BTW Jode its not a paid gig but there are a few of us that have been there since the beginning who are "leaders" - I hate that term but we do hold the thing together and have been keeping it going for years!
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by Fudge
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That would be an "anchor," Fugde.
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by Phantom Button
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"All I can say Jack, must be a one helluva session to get someone to sleep their way into it. Sounds like a good topic for a new thread so you can enlighten the masses - lol"
This is something Kerri says she does -- you'll have to ask her about it. We're anxiously awaiting her arrival at our session... or anyone else like her. We haven't had any of that sort of thing at our sesh yet. Could be interesting... unless she's talking about falling asleep at sessions.
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by Phantom Button
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Thanks Jack Anchor sounds better than leader especially for this particular session. Perhaps the word that rhymes with anchor could be used for the person who refused to move from the seat, then we would all have appropriate titles
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by Fudge
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LOL - Well with Kerri, who can say. More likely passing out from the libations than falling asleep. Could it just be some quirky Canadian custom. Shanghai-ing musicians? I saw those fangs - kinda scary!
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by RogueFiddler
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I could see finding a habitual place and gravitating to it. Sessions around here are often placed in the middle of large rooms, so there is not often a nice corner spot.
Still Fudge, if you look on the bright side, perhaps you would think of different tunes with a new perspective?
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by Jode
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Hang on, hang on. I'll not be misrepresented here! I was *accused* of sleeping my way into a session, ladies and gentlemen. A little dignity and decorum, PLEASE. In this country, we're innocent until proven guilty.
thank you.
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by Kerri Brown
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The worst thing in my neck of the woods is when, after you've nipped out for a smoke for 5 or ten mins (usually three or four of us), you find your seats are taken by "famous" diddlers. They get the same treatment as anyone of course, and most agree and appologise. But there's always the odd one who thinks you are being rude to them.
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by llig leahcim
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I see this varying greatly, but if you are in a regular venue from week-to-week, then some consideration at least needs to be given to the regular or routine seating arrangements, particularly if the venue is a bit noisier some weeks than others. You have found a seat in which you feel comfortable, and that comfort is most likely due to a couple of reasons that affect the overall tone and flow of the session.
As a bodhranai, I feel I can sit or stand just about anywhere (within reason, naturally) and be relatively comfortable with the set-up (providing, of course, that the drum isn't situated in close proximity to a stringed instrument player's right ear). Some folks really like to sit in a specific place, and I have seen them walk away from a session if what they perceive as their regular spot has been taken up by someone else prior to their arrival. I once was rather accommodating and deferential toward certain of the fiddlers and a couple of other folks, even when they showed up more than an hour into the session. Now, it's pretty much everyone for themself, as far as I'm concerned -- with a couple of notable exceptions. We seem to have had a fair amount of assistance from the employees of the place where we play when it comes to moving the punters out of the way. We'll have to see what develops as we explore new venues, beginning this autumn.
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by AndrewMac
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I'm not being funny here, but if all you do is bang a drum, you must always give up your seat
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by llig leahcim
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Maybe the "drum banger" is the most talented one there, as happens all the time at our sessions.
By the way, ten minutes for a smoke? You must be using about 5 skins.
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by bodhran bliss
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Now Michael, bodhrans are instruments too. I wouldn't expect a bodhran player to give up his seat for me. If there were a few of them I'd expect one of them to offer a seat to another instrument player, but that would be the exeption.
# Posted on July 14th 2005 by Phantom Button
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Getting punter to move:
Find out what car he drives and then go up to him/her and say is that blue Ford out in the car park theirs. Then ask them did they have a puncture, because you're sure you saw someone taking off one of the wheels.
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by Donough
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Greetings:
I have little to no patience with "You're sitting in my seat." That's just not the spirit I'm looking for in a session.
And I think that sleeping one's way into a session is a very original approach. I'm only sorry I didn't think of it myself.
Blessings, Cathryn
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by cathrynb
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For those who weren't around when this (similar) topic was discussed - check out:
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display.php/5188
The trouble with getting there early is that you may end up surrounded with all the wrong people. Get there late and all the good positions are taken. The golden moment is just after the music has started but not everyone has arrived. You can read the geographical tone of the session and wait for the optimum time to take your seat, ie chat at the bar. Alternatively arrange to arrive with or at the same time as the 'desirables'
Do I sound elitist or what!
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by Donough
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Snob!
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by Dr. Dow
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I like the punctured tyre suggestion Donough
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by Fudge
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what about sleeping during sessions? or is that a different thing?
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by showaddydadito
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“Maybe the "drum banger" is the most talented one there, as happens all the time at our sessions”
And maybe that’s because all the good melody players keep well away from all you talented bodhran players.
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by BegF
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Just in case one of our old discussions bears any relevance to this please check out:
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display.php/2163
(Why am I always referring to old discussions nowadays?)
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by Rudall the time
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Don't sit there, that chair is reserved for the bodhranist - it's of the electric variety.
A couple regularly appear 2 hours late at a certain session I go to, carrying 8 instruments, and expect seats (and room for their junk) to be available. They are a little thick-skinned (with heads to match).
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by geoffwright
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Apologies Pingu for going back over old ground, I was tired and annoyed when I posted this and a little concerned that I was over reacting to being dethroned.
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by Fudge
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"A couple regularly appear 2 hours late....expect seats..."
Geoff I hate when this happens at our session especially when its raining and big wet cases are sent in past you wetting you, people squeezing in with their wet smelly coats, then passing back out because they realise there is not enough room in the spot they were aiming for even though a blind man could have told them this before they made the big trip. Then they remember they left something in their case so the case is passed back out again almost either knocking the drinks off the table or bumping into your head, then when everyone has been sufficiently annoyed by these late arrivals they either start off a tune that has been played already or spend the next 10 mins tunning a really loud banjo while carrying on a conversation with someone at the far side of the room. Wow and I thought it was bad when I had an issue with someone taking my seat!!
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by Fudge
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Are we all agreed, then, that there should always be comfortable seats available for those who are, ahem, no longer in the full flush of youth?
Trevor
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by Trevor Jennings
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Flatulence is the answer.
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by cyber-bullying is a criminal offence
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No apology needed. It's probably down to me being too lazy to contribute again. But the thing about coming in late - I invariably do, often arriving at 10 when the session started at 9, and yet I live the nearest (about 2 minutes up ther road) - but often this is down to having to put a 2-year old to bed then falling asleep myself! But everyone is gracious enough to say nothing and keep a seat for me.
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by Rudall the time
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"Flatulance is the answer"
I know I mentioned anal in my original post but please
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by Fudge
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Man, I always suspected it but now I have proof - you guys are anal retentive.
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by Kerri Brown
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"...A little dignity and decorum, PLEASE. ...thank you."
# Posted on Thursday, July 14th 2005 by Kerri Brown
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"...you guys are anal retentive."
# Posted on Friday, July 15th 2005 by Kerri Brown
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So much for that request ...
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by RogueFiddler
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What else would you call an obsession with keeping your seat?
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by Kerri Brown
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I feel I must defend Kerri here - why can't she be allowed to contradict herself? After all, she's very good at it.
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by Rudall the time
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So Kerri, was that just an observation about the posters, made with all the dignity and decorum that this site inspires? I don't understand Pingu, what contradiction?
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by RogueFiddler
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I'd rather be good at that than being a smarmy killjoy.
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by Kerri Brown
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It's interesting - kerri is one of the few people who is readily 'discussed' -- it's great that you have found something so fetching to occupy your time and energy with. keeps you out of the bath houses?
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by searai
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Cabbage is good, or egg curry.
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by cyber-bullying is a criminal offence
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ha!
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by searai
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Wasn't rule 5 of the recently posted rules of music "Pull my Finger" ( apparently it produces gas ) ?
I don't think anyone would try and pinch a musicians' seat at our session, unless they were a musician, of course.
But we tend to float around the bar a bit - the best acoustics are at the side, under a flat ceiling, but there's a pillar in the middle of this area so you always feel cut off from at least one other person.
We always re-arrange the seating a bit for the session anyway, don't think there's an optimum arrangement.
PS never heard of anyone sleeping their way into a session - now if you'll be talking academic careers, that was another matter.
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by Guernsey Pete
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Nice one BegF. Four of the not so good melody players you mentioned who go to my session are regulars on this site, I am sure they will treasure your opinion of them.
And they can't wait to see how good you are.
# Posted on July 15th 2005 by bodhran bliss
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Read again Bliss, it's YOU saying the Bodhran players are
the most talanted, and again you twist what people say to
suit your arguments, this is becoming quite the habit for you.
As for my playing, I make no claims or boasts - something you can't say.
# Posted on July 16th 2005 by BegF
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tee he
# Posted on July 16th 2005 by llig leahcim
Re: Seating Arrangements
Moi, twisting things. I said the bodhran player(s) were usually the most talented. YOU said that's because good melody players avoid bodhrans. There are not too many ways you can twist that.
I don't make boasts by the way, just honest claims. I hate hypocrisy and false modesty. Can you imagine Michael Jordan saying he wasn't very good at basketball, it would make one cringe.
# Posted on July 16th 2005 by bodhran bliss
Re: Seating Arrangements
Let's use actual quotes shall we, as I never said good melody players avoid bodhrans, and you never said bodhrans players were usually the most talanted This is just another twist of yours.
"Maybe the "drum banger" is the most talented one there, as happens all the time at our sessions." - Bliss
Aint too many ways I can twist that.
In another recent thread you said (twisted) that I had scorned Ewan McColl even though now is the first time I have ever mentioned him on this site.
In yet another you again twisted that we were all unhelpful to fiddlemax, when everyone was giving advice..
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display.php/6713/comments#comment143860
As for honest claims - false modesty is one thing, CONSTANTLY reminding people that others have called you the best bodhran player in the world, or slipping in comments like "let's face it Frankie Kennedy was 18 when he asked
me to teach him the tin whistle" when they are totally out of context (but just dying to get out) smacks of w ank.
# Posted on July 16th 2005 by BegF
Re: Seating Arrangements
Ewan McColl, "finger in the ear" ring any bells?
As for Frankie, he dined out for years using my name.
# Posted on July 16th 2005 by bodhran bliss
Re: Seating Arrangements
WHACK!! BLISSTER THE TWISTER STRIKES AGAIN !!!
Have an auld read of it again,and point out where I ever mentioned Ewan McColl, my what a habit you have
mis-quoting people to suit your arguments.
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display.php/7054
# Posted on July 17th 2005 by BegF
Re: Seating Arrangements
You never did mention Ewan McColl. On the "Are you into it" thread, you suggested that I should perhaps put my finger in my ear, as though to do so was somewhat posing or stupid. I then mentioned Ewan McColl.
The Frankie Kennedy bit is actually interesting because it shows the impact we have on the "outsiders", those not into ITM. I didn't play the whistle, my friend did. Frankie had seen us loads of times but it didn't register.
And if you think it could only happen to me, a woman who had seen a group of us play hundreds of times once said to me, "That bodhran player is home". When I asked "Who" she then went on to describe a monster who used to play with us, and had moved to Galway.
"That bodhran player" was in fact about the best banjo player you ever heard, also very good doing harmonies on the whistle for songs. But it didn't register with this woman.
You could start a thread about this, "what do audiences see", but in truth I am merely rambling because I am bored with extracting the urine.
# Posted on July 17th 2005 by bodhran bliss
Re: Seating Arrangements
Just think what you could do with all that phosphorous!
sorry, my little obscure chemistry joke. Come to think of it... what would one do with a whole lot of phosphorous? Sell it to 17th century alchemists, possibly. Nevermind.
# Posted on July 17th 2005 by Q
Re: Seating Arrangements
To get back to the topic (take a deep breath there, BegF and blisster, and step away from your sidearms
):
I have a favorite seat at our sessions, it is a metal folding chair that I brought into the pub myself, and gets stored in the corner. I weigh in at about 260 pounds when fully dressed, and like leaning back against the chair, so I like having a bit of support. I once cracked one of the lightweight wooden chairs our publican usually puts out--quite embarassing. So there are practical reasons for wanting a particular seat!
Ponderously yours,
AL
# Posted on July 17th 2005 by AlBrown