Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
Hey there
I've just spent 4 days learning new tunes from a CD that I loaded into my PC - windows based, only to realise that I have learnt them in the wrong key because the CDs are playing at least one whole tone down.
If anyone else has had this problem please let me know what to do...although Fully Rigged Ship sounds funky in F!
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
Anyway it's never bothered you in the past - you always play stuff in weird keys! And you don't seem to have any problem transposing on the fly. But, if you really want the CD done...
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
PS I. and E. gave me a copy of a Brid Harper concert on tape and it was playing about a tone sharp. When I put it onto CD for them I brought the tone down with Cool Edit and it sounds much better. It makes it so much easier to learn tunes off it. You don't have to transpose it or retune your instrument.
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
Greenwiggle, do you know if the tunes on your cd were played at that lower pitch when they were recorded, or were they recorded initially onto tape which was played at a slower speed on different equipment when the music was transferred to cd, or do you think the pitch has been deliberately lowered at a later stage by the recording studio? - something these guys like to do sometimes for no apparent reason.
I agree with previous posters that Cool Edit (now taken over and renamed by Adobe I believe) is excellent for raising or lowering the pitch without altering the speed (or raising or lowering the speed without altering the pitch, if you feel so inclined).
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
you could always tune your instrument a hole step down, then after you learn it "wrong" retune your instrument. It shouldn't be that hard because the fingerings will be the same.
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
Thanks for the replies, but it's not just the CD I was learning from - it is every CD that I put in there.
Which does make for a lot of fun, but not when I am supposed to learn pieces to play for a gig with maybe only one rehearsal due to the tyranny of distance.
I'm hoping it is not a hardware issue, which is I why I was soliciting help.
Thanks bb, I do know that one already, but when I heard it and transposed it to that key it makes it (more) playable. And Dow - I'd love a copy of the program and the CD, but I really should learn more tunes...
Cheers all - keep the advice coming if you can spare it.
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
I'd be interested to see what happens if you play the CD's with a variety of different software programs to see if this happens on all. Many of these are freeware or come on CD's with magazines. I presume you are using Windows Media Player at present?? This could be the problem. After all it is really all Bill Gates' fault.
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
Try the very silly named "Amazing Slow Downer" by
www.ronimusic.com
It takes a bit of fiddling to get the tones sorted but adjusting tone will not affect playback speed. Likewise speed fiddling doesn't affect tone everyone's happy.
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
Greenwiggle, if you're getting a pitch reduction with every cd you play then it looks very much like a hardware or firmware problem with your cd player.
Trevor
Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
Hey there
I've just spent 4 days learning new tunes from a CD that I loaded into my PC - windows based, only to realise that I have learnt them in the wrong key because the CDs are playing at least one whole tone down.
If anyone else has had this problem please let me know what to do...although Fully Rigged Ship sounds funky in F!
Thanks
Think Happy Thoughts
Play Kranky tunes!
# Posted on May 19th 2005 by Greenwiggle
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
If you have software like Cool Edit you can stretch or compress the wave until it's at concert pitch, without altering the speed.
# Posted on May 19th 2005 by Dr. Dow
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
If you have problems or haven't got the software, give me a copy of the CD next time you see me and I'll do it if you want.
# Posted on May 19th 2005 by Dr. Dow
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
". . .please let me know what to do..."
Play them a whole step higher.
KFG
# Posted on May 19th 2005 by KFG
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
Anyway it's never bothered you in the past - you always play stuff in weird keys! And you don't seem to have any problem transposing on the fly. But, if you really want the CD done...
# Posted on May 19th 2005 by Dr. Dow
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
PS I. and E. gave me a copy of a Brid Harper concert on tape and it was playing about a tone sharp. When I put it onto CD for them I brought the tone down with Cool Edit and it sounds much better. It makes it so much easier to learn tunes off it. You don't have to transpose it or retune your instrument.
# Posted on May 19th 2005 by Dr. Dow
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Hey Greeny why are you learning tunes - you know them all already.
# Posted on May 19th 2005 by Dr. Dow
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Yeah - As IF you didnt already know 'The fully rigged ship' - you big liar!
# Posted on May 19th 2005 by bb
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Get a capo
# Posted on May 19th 2005 by showaddydadito
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
Greenwiggle, do you know if the tunes on your cd were played at that lower pitch when they were recorded, or were they recorded initially onto tape which was played at a slower speed on different equipment when the music was transferred to cd, or do you think the pitch has been deliberately lowered at a later stage by the recording studio? - something these guys like to do sometimes for no apparent reason.
I agree with previous posters that Cool Edit (now taken over and renamed by Adobe I believe) is excellent for raising or lowering the pitch without altering the speed (or raising or lowering the speed without altering the pitch, if you feel so inclined).
Trevor
# Posted on May 20th 2005 by Trevor Jennings
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
you could always tune your instrument a hole step down, then after you learn it "wrong" retune your instrument. It shouldn't be that hard because the fingerings will be the same.
# Posted on May 20th 2005 by banana512
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
Thanks for the replies, but it's not just the CD I was learning from - it is every CD that I put in there.
Which does make for a lot of fun, but not when I am supposed to learn pieces to play for a gig with maybe only one rehearsal due to the tyranny of distance.
I'm hoping it is not a hardware issue, which is I why I was soliciting help.
Thanks bb, I do know that one already, but when I heard it and transposed it to that key it makes it (more) playable. And Dow - I'd love a copy of the program and the CD, but I really should learn more tunes...
Cheers all - keep the advice coming if you can spare it.
# Posted on May 20th 2005 by Greenwiggle
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
I'd be interested to see what happens if you play the CD's with a variety of different software programs to see if this happens on all. Many of these are freeware or come on CD's with magazines. I presume you are using Windows Media Player at present?? This could be the problem. After all it is really all Bill Gates' fault.
# Posted on May 20th 2005 by Donough
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
Try the very silly named "Amazing Slow Downer" by
everyone's happy.
www.ronimusic.com
It takes a bit of fiddling to get the tones sorted but adjusting tone will not affect playback speed. Likewise speed fiddling doesn't affect tone
good luck
# Posted on May 20th 2005 by Brown Creeper
Re: Techie question...for all you PD smart tradheads...
Greenwiggle, if you're getting a pitch reduction with every cd you play then it looks very much like a hardware or firmware problem with your cd player.
Trevor
# Posted on May 21st 2005 by Trevor Jennings