I've been kind of wondering what some of you do besides music. My day job is operations manager at a motorcycle dealership, Oklahoma Honda-Suzuki. I get to take care of the web site, plan and organize dealership events such as rides and gatherings as well as keep up with other things going on in Oklahoma motorcycle wise.
I teach Irish stepdancing for Heritage Irish Stepdancers in Denver, under Ariel Bennett, TCRG. I own Aniar Design, which embroiders and builds Irish solo dance costumes. I design web pages (and so do almost nothing BUT user interfaces). I work in my garden -- this time of year is very dangerous, as the garden is a very seductive place in early summer and I work at home. I think about doing housework and laundry and then find something better to do.
Next project up: get the house ready to go on the market. Anyone want to buy a townhouse in Lafayette CO? It's got a really nice garden.
You think so, now. Later you'll miss it and wish you could still have so much time to do music as you used to have when you were in school (unless, of course, you become a professional musician, in which case you'll find something else to wish).
Right now I work in the financial department of a law firm, I'm only doing it to make some bucks, because I just came back in February from travelling for 19 months and living in Australia...I might be saving up to travel again, I'm not sure yet...and I used to be a sign language interpreter. But then I quit. To go travelling. So basically, I'm a traveller. Who's working right now.
-Rachel
This is Mark,
I am a computer geek. When I grow up - I want to be a musician. I can make about 25,000 a year off music and 30,000 as a clerk for McDonalds. I will wait until the 25,000 grows up into a big kids number before I turn pro. I should be more than 50 by then.
I'm a veterinary technician. Always loved animals, so been doing this job for about 12 years now. ) It's very interesting, see lots of different kinds of animals, from cats and dogs to sheep, goats, beefalo (cross between cow and buffalo) snakes, ferrets, birds and some wildlife that's been injured, ducks, hawks, snakes, hummingbirds,etc. I assist the vet in surgery, take x-rays, put in i.v. catheters, draw blood, and talk to lots of nice people with lots of questions about their pets. Stop in and visit me!!!
For many years I was a system administrator - the kind that managed thousands of unix computers and thousands of users (almost all of which were scientists of one sort or another). Two years ago, I escaped from Los Alamos Lab with some fellow inmates and became a software developer. Now, I spend my days cursing the compiler instead of the users .
I spent much of my youth helping out a 16th-century alchemist in his shop, until there was err... an accident. Now I mostly spend my time alone, because I find others don't believe what I tell them.
Hi, Guys!
I teach World and U.S. History to junior high (12-14 year olds) immigrant kids in the Chicago area...and I regularly curse the computers but depend on them at the same time for doing grades, translations, etc.
School's out tomorrow--YEAAAAAAY!! But, I'll still be doing coursework all summer to keep up my certification. (I'm getting too old for this; can I retire yet???)
I have 7 kids and that provides enough to do. However, they keep asking for $$. To supply these requests, I'm a toxicologist (make sure drugs are safe for people) with a pharmaceutical company in Indianapolis. I love to garden and read but both take too much time from playing. I put myself through college playing and teaching guitar. I now also play mandolin, banjo, harmonica, and am learning whistle. I still play occasionally for $$ but play often for no $$ just to keep from becoming hopelessly rusty. I hope to retire from the rat race within the next 10 years and my goal is to start teaching the above mentioned instruments privately and at festivals/other venues. I may have to get the kids to start supporting me. Lew
I'm what you'd call a professional late starter. I'm always starting things when everyone else is finishing. That's what I do best.
I think this might be called the fertile imagination thread actually, but its fun anyway. Any rocket scientists out there?
+ I'm another one of them computer geeks (systems administrator/engineer type girlygirl)
+ I read a lot of books and comics
+ I read the Tarot
+ I practice muay thai kickboxing
+ I bike up a storm
I work at Strathclyde university in Glasgow - Basically as a temp (as i'm travelling ) have played music full time for the past 4 years both here and back home, temping jobs buff up my cash flow during winter months. Still do about 4-5 gigs a week though. :0)
You guys all seem to have such interesting jobs, i knew i shoulda stayed at uni instead of going on that damn tour!!! ah well....
Jamie
I´m a german vet, only treating small animals and I own a little veterinarian business...(hi whistlegirl, thought about calling myself whistlingvet )) ), besides, I have a two year old daughter, which has to listen to my whistling all the time and always pinches my whistles, I do a bit of windsurfing and Inlineskating and go to Switzerland for a two weeks holiday tomorrow !!! and nobody knows about any sessions there....
Dagmar
Jamie are you kidding?!?! Touring is always better than working, and you learn heaps more on the road than at uni. Anyday. Always always go Out if you can. I'm going back. I just decided, on my way into this cramped airless cubicle, I resolved when I quit here to spend an entire year outside. Just me and the fiddle, in the sunshine.
-Rachel
I don't know what the hell I do for a living, neither does my boss. I know it's got something to do with construction & IT/MIS, but lately I've been in the office (trailor) doing an engineers work & flying by the seat of my pants & figuring it out as I go along. Right now I should be pouring over an O&M manual to find the cracking pressure of a CV that's associated with a centrifugal pump. Then I realised I don't give a frig & checked in on this site to see what's going on. I liked being out in the field & actually doing stuff, rather than the Orifice Job. Not to mention the 1.5 to 2 hour commute (one way!). At least their paying my sorta well.
I don't play out in a band anymore because it's a pain in the keister, a band is like a venomous six-headed wife that's always ticked off at you. I don't need that kind of a headache. Not to mention having to play all those "The whiskey in the wild rover" boring green-beer songs. (NO! NAY! NEVER!!!)
No, I occasionally go to sessions (one or so a week), drink some free beer & there is no obligation. Sessions are so much more fun than gigs.
Thats gotta depend on the gigs you do surely? I'm quite lucky here i play in a few different bands - a rock ceilidh band - which allows me to let off steam and jump around stage like a mad fool!
Also do the pub stuff, which is good money wise and we have a great singer so i get to do lots of backing vocals and improv stuff on fiddle and flute, prob my favourite and best band is my newest one, we are recording a CD next month courtesy of a record deal, and touring festivals which is as rewarding as it gets for me, nothing like playing for a crowd of people who appreciate what your doing and laugh at all your silly jokes! :0)
I do the odd other fill in gigs for other bands too but nothing beats playing on stage when you pull off a song/instrumental that you and the rest of the band have worked hard on.
I will agree i went through a stage of hating playing in bands and really only liking sessions, but i think the extroverted side of myself started to get annoyed and just wanted to get free! (ps even in the pub band we stay clear of songs like "Wild Rover" - you can only play them 3- 400 times before you just want to start throwing your pint over people who ask for them!
Thats gotta depend on the gigs you do surely? I'm quite lucky here i play in a few different bands - a rock ceilidh band - which allows me to let off steam and jump around stage like a mad fool!
Also do the pub stuff, which is good money wise and we have a great singer so i get to do lots of backing vocals and improv stuff on fiddle and flute, prob my favourite and best band is my newest one, we are recording a CD next month courtesy of a record deal, and touring festivals which is as rewarding as it gets for me, nothing like playing for a crowd of people who appreciate what your doing and laugh at all your silly jokes! :0)
I do the odd other fill in gigs for other bands too but nothing beats playing on stage when you pull off a song/instrumental that you and the rest of the band have worked hard on.
I will agree i went through a stage of hating playing in bands and really only liking sessions, but i think the extroverted side of myself started to get annoyed and just wanted to get free! (ps even in the pub band we stay clear of songs like "Wild Rover" - you can only play them 3- 400 times before you just want to start throwing your pint over people who ask for them!
"I do the odd other fill in gigs for other bands too but nothing beats playing on stage when you pull off a song/instrumental that you and the rest of the band have worked hard on."
Amen to that, Jamie! That's the stuff that really makes it worth it, don't you think? The stuff that's easy to get never means half so much.
The roar of a crowd is nice, but a single "whoop" from someone who I deeply respect beats a roar from a bunch of drunks who are doing what they think they are supposed to do. I've had some of the most musically satisfying moments playing in a session, than nobody even lifted an eyebrow when the set was done (& I didn't really care). I guess I do it for my own fun & respect of my musical peers. Don't get me wrong I'll do gigs, I'll even do the Wild Rover if the price is right, but I prefer playing in sessions as opposed to trying to pry money from some cheap publican, setting up the PA equipment, dealing with bandmembers personal foibles & egos etc etc etc.
could we compromise and say they can both be equally as satisfying depending on the gig/session and who is participating/watching? or is that a cop out? hmmmmmmmmmm............
I like both! and have just had an enormous bowl of strong coffee! hence the multiple key presses!
Jamie
I love dancing around on stage - its what i do best :0)
and you get free drink, and you get payed, and you have fun, and, and, Well thats it really! :0)
No, no, you're both wrong...the best is when you are playing, and playing to the best of your ability, regardless of when or where or whether you're being paid or whether there's a pint on the table. It can be when you're gigging, or when you're playing out with friends or strangers, and it has little to do with your audience (although of course an appreciative and knowledgeable audience helps a lot) or whether you're at home in the living room holed up with a new tune with everyone else out someplace else. Simple as that, insofar as I'm concerned.
Sounds like a session - except you dont have to dance around! Each to their own if you love it then I envy you, cause you get to do what you love all the time and get paid for it
I'm always late in these discussions, because I'm working too much for my living. I'm a computer geek, like Glauber. That is, I do that same kind of back-end UNIX, C++ stuff. Work isn't very enjoyable these days.
So, to keep alive, I do the music, and I love to flyfish. I also am involved in amateur radio. With the radio, I can talk to my uncle who is sailing solo around the world. He is almost to Australia, having crossed the Pacific all the way from Washington state, USA. He's an old salt and has great stories to tell. He recently got hit by a car in the Salomon Islands, and the driver's dad demanded "compensation" from him for getting in the way. Things like that remind me that work isn't so bad - but he does have better stories than us working stiffs.
Hey glauber, im gonna be doing way more music cos im goin to rsamd (glasgow) to study trad scottish music. I get away from the crap anti fiddle skool and get lots of fiddling and more drinking.
These threads have been flying faster than Nellie. Good on Wackadack and anyone else who follows their dreams. What a boring old place this earth would be if everyone had the same aspirations. And if you don't HAVE to do other than music, great.
I agree with Zina, you can be zapped by that indefinible force, 'a high', at any time: whether it be in gigs, sessions, playing together in groups, solos, practice, whenever; wherever it is inside/outside in a burrow, under the moon.
It just might come from within, and to each, his or her own.
"nothing beats playing on stage when you pull off a song/instrumental that you and the rest of the band have worked hard on."
So true.
"playing in sessions as opposed to trying to pry money from some cheap publican, setting up the PA equipment, dealing with bandmembers personal foibles & egos etc etc etc."
So true.
Which is better? I'd say the one that is not currently burning you out.
I study English linguistics,history and literature at the university and I work as an English teacher on the evenings so I can save money to spend the summer in Galway. I can't wait to finish my study to move there.
irina
I've managed largely to evade work, in the conventional sense of the word, since leaving school ten years ago. I do have a part time job at the moment, making cups of instant coffee for a carpenter, and helping him make things, whilst my he busies himself with such things as designs and logistics.
Other than music, there isn't much I do. Besides PLAYING music (I do a few paid gigs, as well as playing at and in sessions), I am learning to make instruments, of the modern fretted string variety.
I've been a hotel clerk, a waitress, a nanny, a golf cart aesthetician (I hosed them off), a telemarketer, the mascot for the Canadian Red Cross ("Buddy the Blood Drop"... disgusting, I know), a storefront mannequin, a roving festival street performer, a census taker, a data entry clerk, a drone for the Man (receptionist at a bank), an art teacher for elementary school kids, a film editor / documentarian, a lighting / rigging technician on a Jackie Chan movie (and other less impressive projects), and owner and operator of a small recording studio. (I've also played a whole bunch of different kinds of gigs, but I imagine that goes without saying here). At this very moment I am working in a Mini Cooper dealership. When I go back to Calgary in 2 weeks I think I want to be a landscaper. I have about a billion different resumes, and all of them are exaggerated.
I've been to England, Scotland, France, the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Italy, Morocco, Guatemala, Australia and Japan. Next summer I am going to Ireland (finally). I've also been to both Canadian coasts and really, really far up north (about halfway, or a two day drive from the border).
As for the raging debate of sessions vs. stage shows, I'm an egomaniacal attention junkie. I LIKE having an audience. Nothing in the world makes me happier. That doesn't mean sessions aren't wonderful too. It's like comparing apples and oranges though. Everyone has a preference but that doesn't make one fruit superior to the next.
Anyone in Calgary looking for some landscaping? I make a hell of a slate patio, and retaining walls excite me.
Bloomfield - What you say implies that you are at least 417 years old. Although I don't actually DISBELIEVE you - after all, that's probably about middle-aged for an accomplished alchemist - it doesn't suprise me that others find your claims less than credible.
"I'm always late in these discussions, because I'm working too much for my living." Yeah I hear ya, me too.
Not exactly a rocket scientist, Jill, but I am a physics grad student studying neutron scattering...close enough? Actually, in August I will be gleefully leaving the physics world and hopping off to study science education, which is where I'll be much more useful and happy.
I work freelance which basically means I'm unemployed most of the time. That's bad when you need money to pay the bills, etc. but it's good when you want to be able devote more time to The Session
I'm really enjoying this thread, reading about what everybody does.... we have *got* to meet up someday.
My time was spent first as a harried bureaucrat in the Social Services. To escape the stress I took up cave exploring (any other National Speleolgy Society members out there?). Later I free-lanced as a real-estate appraiser, until my husband's ability to manipulate molecules (the end result is a computer chip) got us out of the States and into Southern Germany. Now we are studying at the local university (for free!!!!), and trying to imagine what we want to be when we finally grow up.
Let's see....I go to college (although I study music there.) I like to read (although I usually read music books.) I spend too much time on the Internet (usually at music sites.)
Goodness! What DO I do besides music?
Hi
I'm an engineering technician (Depute Manager) at Glasgow University,not enjoying it much because of the prats that believe they can run the place efficiently and don't.Like Glauber ,apart from music ,Ilove flyfishing (two rainbow,one brown today ) and long for the time that I can do these two things without worrying about anything else.
Alan
Art and Literature were my start. Painting, printmaking, drawing, design and Comparative Literature and Languages. Also, a very strong interest in traditional cultures, mythology, Medieval and Renaissance topics. Dance and Music have become my main lifelines in recent years. Also quilt, garden and have designed and built my own house. I play a lot of Early Music, on 6 sizes of recorders, and that now competes with my interest in traditional music. I never used to understand why one would sit and play music, when one could be dancing (Vintage,Contra, English, Scottish) but in recent years, my feet have started hurting more, and sooner, and I am increasingly content to play music. At this point, I enjoy playing and get my endorphins either way. But alas, I am paper-trained and am still limited mostly to *reading* music, which doesn't appear to be acceptable or desirable in traditional circles. . .
How many comp geeks! Can't believe my eyes! Well,
count in another one pls. Me. ))
I recently had a talk with one punk from St. Petersburgh
(Russia), and he told me quite a wonderous thing. He
said "Real punks are often working as a top managers
and other administratives, rock'n'rollers they use to sell
some goods: musical insruments, recordings, vodka etc.
But you all alternatives are geeks!"
Yep, BTW it's my first post, so let me introduce meself
a little. I'm a programmer from Khabarovsk, Russian Far
East, and participating in a "celtic" kinda band. And we
have 2 programmers among us 6.
Goes to show what a tremendous communication tool computers are. I'm just a lowly post grad student dabbling in computing to the extent of having to put together a multi-media package for the course I'm doing in education. My tutors would be thrilled that I contribute to this site (if they only knew). There is this big push to involve as many of us in ICT (and it is a tremendous research/communication tool I don't deny), but having finished for the semester last Friday, I am winding down, tieing up loose ends, then going bush to get a bit of peace and play a bit of ITM. The last few weeks I've been hogtied as far as playing is concerned and I need to put that right. Be back in July. Cheers
I am a Professor of Philosophy at a college in suburban Kansas City, teaching Philosophy, Religion, Ethics and World Philosophy. Not only do I get to face an "Audience" every day, but I also get to play with technology and build my own web sites for my courses.
At home I play backup Guitar in a start-up band with a whistle player and a hammered dulcimer player (my wife). My wife and I also sponsor a small slow session group that tries to meet every couple of weeks to play and learn tunes.
I also make Low D whistles as a hobby - I have sold a few and given even more away to friends who are players and/or performers. The Highlight of that hobby was to see Shannon Heaton (of Suicra) play one on stage at a local Irish festival (not a green beer song heard for two days!). I have one hanging on the wall behind be autographed by all the members of Cherish the Ladies - that one ain't ever for sale!
My wife is a Research Scientist for a pharmaceutical company and plays whistle and hammered dulcimer. Regular members of our session group include a Music teacher, an Art teacher, a Drama teacher, a Spanish Professor, a systems analyst, a paralegal, a financial analyst and a firefighter.
I'm the assistant to the Dean of the Libraries. Basically an Executive Mom. I tell people where they left thier dirty socks, what they need to do next, and do personnel stuff, like make the kids quit fighting. I make books, garden, and take classes in whatever strikes my fancy but mostly art and comunication sorts of things. I make web pages, I really like doing animation, and while I'm not a rocket scientist, I used to play in a band with a computer geek who eventually went to work for NASA.
b
I´m a journalist (and started that career very early at about 19) but had no really straight CV.
Studied history and political science, was almost at the point to quit my profession at all after I covered a flight show in Mannheim where an US-Army Chinook helicopter fell down on the Autobahn and about 20 young people of a french parachute show group died .... I covered it all in a real professional manner but broke down the next day reading my own front page story. So I went far away from that and tried music/radio journalism and technical journalism at a CAD/CAM-magazine ..... first choice was low paid hobby second helped me making the money I needed for the family (in some way it stayed that since today). Was computer and PC trainer, video cutter, had good and bad freelance reporter times, some years at PR departments in big companies, a more or less tough separation and divorce process (another story - my kids are 20 and 17... ), five great summers as a motorcycle travelling tourguide (Americans in the Alps, continental europeans at the TT races on the Isle of Man, europeans in the southwest and south of USA ), failed building up a PR/graphic art/advertising agency and finally became editor at an engineering and design magazine about four years ago .... where I met these mad people ignoring any mainstream music trend and playing/listening to nothing but celtic influenced more or less traditional music ..... and turned to be one of them.
Hell, sometimes the job I earn my living with feels so boring I would like to become a pro musician in a not too far away future but maybe I´m yet too old now for that (???) - well, you´ll never know!!! ;o)
I'm still trying to decide what I want to be when I grow up. (Actually that's not true; I know: I want to be RETIRED so I can spend all day playing music! Alas, I still have at least another couple decades to go before that.) Right now I pay the bills by doing environmental research. Before that I taught remedial math to adults. Math education is still very near to my heart, and I coach a MathCounts team. (See http://www.mathcounts.org/ for information about this program for 6th - 8th grade students.)
I've done a fair number of other things. I ride a unicycle and juggle. When I first left home at age 17, I rode across the Lower 48 (a.k.a. the contiguous United States) on a Greyhound bus. After moving to Alaska, I lived for a number of years without running water, with a woodstove for heat, so I've done a lot of hauling water and splitting wood. (Here's the Alaskan secret: make a styrofoam toilet seat for your outhouse. And wood splits really easily at 40 degrees below zero!) I built a house. I married a fiddler. I train dogs. I raise kids. I like to go for day hikes and berry-picking in the summer, and cross-country skiing and sauna in the winter.
For the money, I maintain and repair computer printers and copiers. I also garden, fly-fish, am an avid woodworker. I build furniture and Appalachian dulcimers and make repairs on the odd instrument that comes across my bench. .
I'm in between at the moment. Most recently I've worked
as a family stabilization worker for mostly emotionally
disturbed kids in foster care, and doing other child and
family counseling in child welfare. I'm moving to Philadelphia
though, and I'm hoping to go back to school to get a PhD
in clinical psychology. (It would be nice to work in a school
or hospital setting where I might actually get to go home at
night). I've also done reasearch in elementary education and
maternal and child health. In the past I've also worked for the
US army in Germany as a military post newspaper reporter
and editor, worked in a temp agency hiring and matching
employees to jobs, and several different clerical jobs.
Other than music, I'm a card carrying geek (member of
the Role Playing Gamers Association -- yes, even as an
adult) and I read read read. I used to be terribly into
rollerblading, but I fell a couple of years ago and hurt my
shoulder, and now I'm a little afraid to try again. I'm not
an NSS member, but I have done a little caving and really
enjoyed it.
Hi
Well I work in a library in the uk.Strood library in Kent.Although if you saw me you would'nt think I was a librarian.I look more like a hippy.
Any-way i get to read all the latest titles.
Amanda
I'm a Junior undergrad. My major is Music Education, my minor is Folk Dance, and I would double minor in folk music if it was offered. I want to teach high school orchestra by day, Irish Step by night.
I run a couple of non-profit websites. I also design Irish Step Dance solo costumes, paint dancer portraits, and carve knotwork candles.
Sometimes I get a gig with my band, but for very very small spuds. I love performing.
I work with an environmental non-profit group on the east coast and dance latin/ballroom (not for $ but it keeps me broke) and when ever, I can, I fiddle. either at sessions or practicing at home.
I iused to work for corporate America but notanymore...........
Other than music, What do ya do?
Other than music, What do ya do?
I've been kind of wondering what some of you do besides music. My day job is operations manager at a motorcycle dealership, Oklahoma Honda-Suzuki. I get to take care of the web site, plan and organize dealership events such as rides and gatherings as well as keep up with other things going on in Oklahoma motorcycle wise.
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by flyinfiddler
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
I program computers. My thing is mostly doing back-ends, handling large amounts of data; i don't do a lot of user interfaces.
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by glauber
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
I teach Irish stepdancing for Heritage Irish Stepdancers in Denver, under Ariel Bennett, TCRG. I own Aniar Design, which embroiders and builds Irish solo dance costumes. I design web pages (and so do almost nothing BUT user interfaces). I work in my garden -- this time of year is very dangerous, as the garden is a very seductive place in early summer and I work at home. I think about doing housework and laundry and then find something better to do.
Next project up: get the house ready to go on the market. Anyone want to buy a townhouse in Lafayette CO? It's got a really nice garden.
Zina
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by Zina Lee
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
I do marketing for a law firm. Hopefully I will also be starting a fiddle studio this fall.
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by KP
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
i write those software manuals that you don't read
sarah
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by eleyne
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
In about 2 weeks im leaving school forever
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# Posted on June 13th 2002 by Wackadack
You think so, now. Later you'll miss it and wish you could still have so much time to do music as you used to have when you were in school (unless, of course, you become a professional musician, in which case you'll find something else to wish).
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by glauber
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
Right now I work in the financial department of a law firm, I'm only doing it to make some bucks, because I just came back in February from travelling for 19 months and living in Australia...I might be saving up to travel again, I'm not sure yet...and I used to be a sign language interpreter. But then I quit. To go travelling. So basically, I'm a traveller. Who's working right now.
-Rachel
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by rachj
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
This is Mark,
I am a computer geek. When I grow up - I want to be a musician. I can make about 25,000 a year off music and 30,000 as a clerk for McDonalds. I will wait until the 25,000 grows up into a big kids number before I turn pro. I should be more than 50 by then.
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by Mark Cordova
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
I'm a veterinary technician. Always loved animals, so been doing this job for about 12 years now.
) It's very interesting, see lots of different kinds of animals, from cats and dogs to sheep, goats, beefalo (cross between cow and buffalo) snakes, ferrets, birds and some wildlife that's been injured, ducks, hawks, snakes, hummingbirds,etc. I assist the vet in surgery, take x-rays, put in i.v. catheters, draw blood, and talk to lots of nice people with lots of questions about their pets. Stop in and visit me!!!
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by whistlegirl in RI
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
For many years I was a system administrator - the kind that managed thousands of unix computers and thousands of users (almost all of which were scientists of one sort or another). Two years ago, I escaped from Los Alamos Lab with some fellow inmates and became a software developer. Now, I spend my days cursing the compiler instead of the users
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Sosaidh
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by chicagofiddler
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
I spent much of my youth helping out a 16th-century alchemist in his shop, until there was err... an accident. Now I mostly spend my time alone, because I find others don't believe what I tell them.
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by Bloomfield
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
O---K,,,
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by flyinfiddler
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
Teach kids with autism and I do read the manuals- after I mostly know how to use the software so I can understand it.
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by Jenthur
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
Hi, Guys!
I teach World and U.S. History to junior high (12-14 year olds) immigrant kids in the Chicago area...and I regularly curse the computers but depend on them at the same time for doing grades, translations, etc.
School's out tomorrow--YEAAAAAAY!! But, I'll still be doing coursework all summer to keep up my certification. (I'm getting too old for this; can I retire yet???)
What a cross-section of life we all are!
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by linda
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
I have 7 kids and that provides enough to do. However, they keep asking for $$. To supply these requests, I'm a toxicologist (make sure drugs are safe for people) with a pharmaceutical company in Indianapolis. I love to garden and read but both take too much time from playing. I put myself through college playing and teaching guitar. I now also play mandolin, banjo, harmonica, and am learning whistle. I still play occasionally for $$ but play often for no $$ just to keep from becoming hopelessly rusty. I hope to retire from the rat race within the next 10 years and my goal is to start teaching the above mentioned instruments privately and at festivals/other venues. I may have to get the kids to start supporting me. Lew
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by ltruex
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
I'm what you'd call a professional late starter. I'm always starting things when everyone else is finishing. That's what I do best.
I think this might be called the fertile imagination thread actually, but its fun anyway. Any rocket scientists out there?
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by Jill
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
+ I'm another one of them computer geeks (systems administrator/engineer type girlygirl)
+ I read a lot of books and comics
+ I read the Tarot
+ I practice muay thai kickboxing
+ I bike up a storm
xo,
E. Bess
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by E. Bess
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
I work at Strathclyde university in Glasgow - Basically as a temp (as i'm travelling ) have played music full time for the past 4 years both here and back home, temping jobs buff up my cash flow during winter months. Still do about 4-5 gigs a week though. :0)
You guys all seem to have such interesting jobs, i knew i shoulda stayed at uni instead of going on that damn tour!!! ah well....
Jamie
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by jamiedj
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I´m a german vet, only treating small animals and I own a little veterinarian business...(hi whistlegirl, thought about calling myself whistlingvet
)) ), besides, I have a two year old daughter, which has to listen to my whistling all the time and always pinches my whistles, I do a bit of windsurfing and Inlineskating and go to Switzerland for a two weeks holiday tomorrow !!! and nobody knows about any sessions there....
Dagmar
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by drdagmar
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i do school.
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by jo
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Jamie are you kidding?!?! Touring is always better than working, and you learn heaps more on the road than at uni. Anyday. Always always go Out if you can. I'm going back. I just decided, on my way into this cramped airless cubicle, I resolved when I quit here to spend an entire year outside. Just me and the fiddle, in the sunshine.
-Rachel
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by rachj
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I'm a working traveller as well, not very interesting at all, though I'm playing heaps right now, so Its all good
# Posted on June 13th 2002 by shoddy fiddle player
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
I don't know what the hell I do for a living, neither does my boss. I know it's got something to do with construction & IT/MIS, but lately I've been in the office (trailor) doing an engineers work & flying by the seat of my pants & figuring it out as I go along. Right now I should be pouring over an O&M manual to find the cracking pressure of a CV that's associated with a centrifugal pump. Then I realised I don't give a frig & checked in on this site to see what's going on. I liked being out in the field & actually doing stuff, rather than the Orifice Job. Not to mention the 1.5 to 2 hour commute (one way!). At least their paying my sorta well.
I don't play out in a band anymore because it's a pain in the keister, a band is like a venomous six-headed wife that's always ticked off at you. I don't need that kind of a headache. Not to mention having to play all those "The whiskey in the wild rover" boring green-beer songs. (NO! NAY! NEVER!!!)
No, I occasionally go to sessions (one or so a week), drink some free beer & there is no obligation. Sessions are so much more fun than gigs.
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by Brad Maloney
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Thats gotta depend on the gigs you do surely? I'm quite lucky here i play in a few different bands - a rock ceilidh band - which allows me to let off steam and jump around stage like a mad fool!
Also do the pub stuff, which is good money wise and we have a great singer so i get to do lots of backing vocals and improv stuff on fiddle and flute, prob my favourite and best band is my newest one, we are recording a CD next month courtesy of a record deal, and touring festivals which is as rewarding as it gets for me, nothing like playing for a crowd of people who appreciate what your doing and laugh at all your silly jokes! :0)
I do the odd other fill in gigs for other bands too but nothing beats playing on stage when you pull off a song/instrumental that you and the rest of the band have worked hard on.
I will agree i went through a stage of hating playing in bands and really only liking sessions, but i think the extroverted side of myself started to get annoyed and just wanted to get free! (ps even in the pub band we stay clear of songs like "Wild Rover" - you can only play them 3- 400 times before you just want to start throwing your pint over people who ask for them!
Jamie :0)
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by jamiedj
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Thats gotta depend on the gigs you do surely? I'm quite lucky here i play in a few different bands - a rock ceilidh band - which allows me to let off steam and jump around stage like a mad fool!
Also do the pub stuff, which is good money wise and we have a great singer so i get to do lots of backing vocals and improv stuff on fiddle and flute, prob my favourite and best band is my newest one, we are recording a CD next month courtesy of a record deal, and touring festivals which is as rewarding as it gets for me, nothing like playing for a crowd of people who appreciate what your doing and laugh at all your silly jokes! :0)
I do the odd other fill in gigs for other bands too but nothing beats playing on stage when you pull off a song/instrumental that you and the rest of the band have worked hard on.
I will agree i went through a stage of hating playing in bands and really only liking sessions, but i think the extroverted side of myself started to get annoyed and just wanted to get free! (ps even in the pub band we stay clear of songs like "Wild Rover" - you can only play them 3- 400 times before you just want to start throwing your pint over people who ask for them!
Jamie :0)
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by jamiedj
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"I do the odd other fill in gigs for other bands too but nothing beats playing on stage when you pull off a song/instrumental that you and the rest of the band have worked hard on."
Amen to that, Jamie! That's the stuff that really makes it worth it, don't you think? The stuff that's easy to get never means half so much.
Zina
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by Zina Lee
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You said it sister!
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by jamiedj
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The roar of a crowd is nice, but a single "whoop" from someone who I deeply respect beats a roar from a bunch of drunks who are doing what they think they are supposed to do. I've had some of the most musically satisfying moments playing in a session, than nobody even lifted an eyebrow when the set was done (& I didn't really care). I guess I do it for my own fun & respect of my musical peers. Don't get me wrong I'll do gigs, I'll even do the Wild Rover if the price is right, but I prefer playing in sessions as opposed to trying to pry money from some cheap publican, setting up the PA equipment, dealing with bandmembers personal foibles & egos etc etc etc.
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by Brad Maloney
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here, here - I totally agree, Sessions are far more satisfying than gigs
)
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by shoddy fiddle player
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
could we compromise and say they can both be equally as satisfying depending on the gig/session and who is participating/watching? or is that a cop out? hmmmmmmmmmm............
I like both! and have just had an enormous bowl of strong coffee! hence the multiple key presses!
Jamie
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by jamiedj
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nope - no compromise, sessions are the best
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by shoddy fiddle player
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what if your getting payed to do a session, isn't that technically a gig?
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by jamiedj
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But you dont have to dance around on stage and act mental - you just drink your free beers and do what you do even if youre not getting paid ;)
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by shoddy fiddle player
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
I love dancing around on stage - its what i do best :0)
and you get free drink, and you get payed, and you have fun, and, and, Well thats it really! :0)
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by jamiedj
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No, no, you're both wrong...the best is when you are playing, and playing to the best of your ability, regardless of when or where or whether you're being paid or whether there's a pint on the table. It can be when you're gigging, or when you're playing out with friends or strangers, and it has little to do with your audience (although of course an appreciative and knowledgeable audience helps a lot) or whether you're at home in the living room holed up with a new tune with everyone else out someplace else. Simple as that, insofar as I'm concerned.
All the rest is so much fluff and bother. Heh.
Zina
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by Zina Lee
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
Sounds like a session - except you dont have to dance around! Each to their own if you love it then I envy you, cause you get to do what you love all the time and get paid for it
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by shoddy fiddle player
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Yeah - i see your point zina, but I do like the free pints
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by shoddy fiddle player
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I'm always late in these discussions, because I'm working too much for my living. I'm a computer geek, like Glauber. That is, I do that same kind of back-end UNIX, C++ stuff. Work isn't very enjoyable these days.
So, to keep alive, I do the music, and I love to flyfish. I also am involved in amateur radio. With the radio, I can talk to my uncle who is sailing solo around the world. He is almost to Australia, having crossed the Pacific all the way from Washington state, USA. He's an old salt and has great stories to tell. He recently got hit by a car in the Salomon Islands, and the driver's dad demanded "compensation" from him for getting in the way. Things like that remind me that work isn't so bad - but he does have better stories than us working stiffs.
-Dirk
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by dirk
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Hey glauber, im gonna be doing way more music cos im goin to rsamd (glasgow) to study trad scottish music. I get away from the crap anti fiddle skool and get lots of fiddling and more drinking.
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by Wackadack
I dnt care bout money, ive never been anythnk but broke and now im gonna play music all the timeee.
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by Wackadack
im soooooo wasted unbeleivable
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by Wackadack
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These threads have been flying faster than Nellie. Good on Wackadack and anyone else who follows their dreams. What a boring old place this earth would be if everyone had the same aspirations. And if you don't HAVE to do other than music, great.
I agree with Zina, you can be zapped by that indefinible force, 'a high', at any time: whether it be in gigs, sessions, playing together in groups, solos, practice, whenever; wherever it is inside/outside in a burrow, under the moon.
It just might come from within, and to each, his or her own.
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by Jill
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... don't know about the 'wasted' bits that somehow snuk in! Oysters and tomatoe sauce are good for a hangover.
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by Jill
Re: Other than music, What do ya do?
"nothing beats playing on stage when you pull off a song/instrumental that you and the rest of the band have worked hard on."
So true.
"playing in sessions as opposed to trying to pry money from some cheap publican, setting up the PA equipment, dealing with bandmembers personal foibles & egos etc etc etc."
So true.
Which is better? I'd say the one that is not currently burning you out.
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by blowfly
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I study English linguistics,history and literature at the university and I work as an English teacher on the evenings so I can save money to spend the summer in Galway. I can't wait to finish my study to move there.
irina
# Posted on June 14th 2002 by aniri
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I've managed largely to evade work, in the conventional sense of the word, since leaving school ten years ago. I do have a part time job at the moment, making cups of instant coffee for a carpenter, and helping him make things, whilst my he busies himself with such things as designs and logistics.
Other than music, there isn't much I do. Besides PLAYING music (I do a few paid gigs, as well as playing at and in sessions), I am learning to make instruments, of the modern fretted string variety.
# Posted on June 15th 2002 by ragaman
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I've been a hotel clerk, a waitress, a nanny, a golf cart aesthetician (I hosed them off), a telemarketer, the mascot for the Canadian Red Cross ("Buddy the Blood Drop"... disgusting, I know), a storefront mannequin, a roving festival street performer, a census taker, a data entry clerk, a drone for the Man (receptionist at a bank), an art teacher for elementary school kids, a film editor / documentarian, a lighting / rigging technician on a Jackie Chan movie (and other less impressive projects), and owner and operator of a small recording studio. (I've also played a whole bunch of different kinds of gigs, but I imagine that goes without saying here). At this very moment I am working in a Mini Cooper dealership. When I go back to Calgary in 2 weeks I think I want to be a landscaper. I have about a billion different resumes, and all of them are exaggerated.
I've been to England, Scotland, France, the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Switzerland, Spain, Italy, Morocco, Guatemala, Australia and Japan. Next summer I am going to Ireland (finally). I've also been to both Canadian coasts and really, really far up north (about halfway, or a two day drive from the border).
As for the raging debate of sessions vs. stage shows, I'm an egomaniacal attention junkie. I LIKE having an audience. Nothing in the world makes me happier. That doesn't mean sessions aren't wonderful too. It's like comparing apples and oranges though. Everyone has a preference but that doesn't make one fruit superior to the next.
Anyone in Calgary looking for some landscaping? I make a hell of a slate patio, and retaining walls excite me.
# Posted on June 15th 2002 by Kerri Brown
Bloomfield - What you say implies that you are at least 417 years old. Although I don't actually DISBELIEVE you - after all, that's probably about middle-aged for an accomplished alchemist - it doesn't suprise me that others find your claims less than credible.
# Posted on June 15th 2002 by ragaman
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Oh, PLEASE don't go encouraging him, David...hehehehe....
Zina
# Posted on June 15th 2002 by Zina Lee
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"I'm always late in these discussions, because I'm working too much for my living." Yeah I hear ya, me too.
Not exactly a rocket scientist, Jill, but I am a physics grad student studying neutron scattering...close enough? Actually, in August I will be gleefully leaving the physics world and hopping off to study science education, which is where I'll be much more useful and happy.
Elia
# Posted on June 15th 2002 by elia
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I make websites.
I work freelance which basically means I'm unemployed most of the time. That's bad when you need money to pay the bills, etc. but it's good when you want to be able devote more time to The Session
I'm really enjoying this thread, reading about what everybody does.... we have *got* to meet up someday.
# Posted on June 15th 2002 by Jeremy
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My time was spent first as a harried bureaucrat in the Social Services. To escape the stress I took up cave exploring (any other National Speleolgy Society members out there?). Later I free-lanced as a real-estate appraiser, until my husband's ability to manipulate molecules (the end result is a computer chip) got us out of the States and into Southern Germany. Now we are studying at the local university (for free!!!!), and trying to imagine what we want to be when we finally grow up.
# Posted on June 15th 2002 by La_grotte
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Let's see....I go to college (although I study music there.) I like to read (although I usually read music books.) I spend too much time on the Internet (usually at music sites.)
Goodness! What DO I do besides music?
# Posted on June 16th 2002 by The Whistler
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Hi
I'm an engineering technician (Depute Manager) at Glasgow University,not enjoying it much because of the prats that believe they can run the place efficiently and don't.Like Glauber ,apart from music ,Ilove flyfishing (two rainbow,one brown today ) and long for the time that I can do these two things without worrying about anything else.
Alan
# Posted on June 16th 2002 by Alanmmcgregor
.......and so sad that Ireland are out of the world cup.
# Posted on June 16th 2002 by Alanmmcgregor
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.......Sorry it's Dirk that likes to flyfish -it's been a long day!!!
# Posted on June 16th 2002 by Alanmmcgregor
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Art and Literature were my start. Painting, printmaking, drawing, design and Comparative Literature and Languages. Also, a very strong interest in traditional cultures, mythology, Medieval and Renaissance topics. Dance and Music have become my main lifelines in recent years. Also quilt, garden and have designed and built my own house. I play a lot of Early Music, on 6 sizes of recorders, and that now competes with my interest in traditional music. I never used to understand why one would sit and play music, when one could be dancing (Vintage,Contra, English, Scottish) but in recent years, my feet have started hurting more, and sooner, and I am increasingly content to play music. At this point, I enjoy playing and get my endorphins either way. But alas, I am paper-trained and am still limited mostly to *reading* music, which doesn't appear to be acceptable or desirable in traditional circles. . .
# Posted on June 16th 2002 by dfhart
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How many comp geeks! Can't believe my eyes! Well,
))
count in another one pls. Me.
I recently had a talk with one punk from St. Petersburgh
(Russia), and he told me quite a wonderous thing. He
said "Real punks are often working as a top managers
and other administratives, rock'n'rollers they use to sell
some goods: musical insruments, recordings, vodka etc.
But you all alternatives are geeks!"
Yep, BTW it's my first post, so let me introduce meself
a little. I'm a programmer from Khabarovsk, Russian Far
East, and participating in a "celtic" kinda band. And we
have 2 programmers among us 6.
Best regards,
Tanner
# Posted on June 16th 2002 by Ttanner
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Goes to show what a tremendous communication tool computers are. I'm just a lowly post grad student dabbling in computing to the extent of having to put together a multi-media package for the course I'm doing in education. My tutors would be thrilled that I contribute to this site (if they only knew). There is this big push to involve as many of us in ICT (and it is a tremendous research/communication tool I don't deny), but having finished for the semester last Friday, I am winding down, tieing up loose ends, then going bush to get a bit of peace and play a bit of ITM. The last few weeks I've been hogtied as far as playing is concerned and I need to put that right. Be back in July. Cheers
# Posted on June 16th 2002 by Jill
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I am a Professor of Philosophy at a college in suburban Kansas City, teaching Philosophy, Religion, Ethics and World Philosophy. Not only do I get to face an "Audience" every day, but I also get to play with technology and build my own web sites for my courses.
At home I play backup Guitar in a start-up band with a whistle player and a hammered dulcimer player (my wife). My wife and I also sponsor a small slow session group that tries to meet every couple of weeks to play and learn tunes.
I also make Low D whistles as a hobby - I have sold a few and given even more away to friends who are players and/or performers. The Highlight of that hobby was to see Shannon Heaton (of Suicra) play one on stage at a local Irish festival (not a green beer song heard for two days!). I have one hanging on the wall behind be autographed by all the members of Cherish the Ladies - that one ain't ever for sale!
My wife is a Research Scientist for a pharmaceutical company and plays whistle and hammered dulcimer. Regular members of our session group include a Music teacher, an Art teacher, a Drama teacher, a Spanish Professor, a systems analyst, a paralegal, a financial analyst and a firefighter.
Peace
# Posted on June 17th 2002 by MConnelly
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I'm the assistant to the Dean of the Libraries. Basically an Executive Mom. I tell people where they left thier dirty socks, what they need to do next, and do personnel stuff, like make the kids quit fighting. I make books, garden, and take classes in whatever strikes my fancy but mostly art and comunication sorts of things. I make web pages, I really like doing animation, and while I'm not a rocket scientist, I used to play in a band with a computer geek who eventually went to work for NASA.
b
# Posted on June 17th 2002 by burek
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I´m a journalist (and started that career very early at about 19) but had no really straight CV.
Studied history and political science, was almost at the point to quit my profession at all after I covered a flight show in Mannheim where an US-Army Chinook helicopter fell down on the Autobahn and about 20 young people of a french parachute show group died .... I covered it all in a real professional manner but broke down the next day reading my own front page story. So I went far away from that and tried music/radio journalism and technical journalism at a CAD/CAM-magazine ..... first choice was low paid hobby second helped me making the money I needed for the family (in some way it stayed that since today). Was computer and PC trainer, video cutter, had good and bad freelance reporter times, some years at PR departments in big companies, a more or less tough separation and divorce process (another story - my kids are 20 and 17... ), five great summers as a motorcycle travelling tourguide (Americans in the Alps, continental europeans at the TT races on the Isle of Man, europeans in the southwest and south of USA ), failed building up a PR/graphic art/advertising agency and finally became editor at an engineering and design magazine about four years ago .... where I met these mad people ignoring any mainstream music trend and playing/listening to nothing but celtic influenced more or less traditional music ..... and turned to be one of them.
Hell, sometimes the job I earn my living with feels so boring I would like to become a pro musician in a not too far away future but maybe I´m yet too old now for that (???) - well, you´ll never know!!! ;o)
# Posted on June 17th 2002 by crannog
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I'm still trying to decide what I want to be when I grow up. (Actually that's not true; I know: I want to be RETIRED so I can spend all day playing music! Alas, I still have at least another couple decades to go before that.) Right now I pay the bills by doing environmental research. Before that I taught remedial math to adults. Math education is still very near to my heart, and I coach a MathCounts team. (See http://www.mathcounts.org/ for information about this program for 6th - 8th grade students.)
I've done a fair number of other things. I ride a unicycle and juggle. When I first left home at age 17, I rode across the Lower 48 (a.k.a. the contiguous United States) on a Greyhound bus. After moving to Alaska, I lived for a number of years without running water, with a woodstove for heat, so I've done a lot of hauling water and splitting wood. (Here's the Alaskan secret: make a styrofoam toilet seat for your outhouse. And wood splits really easily at 40 degrees below zero!) I built a house. I married a fiddler. I train dogs. I raise kids. I like to go for day hikes and berry-picking in the summer, and cross-country skiing and sauna in the winter.
Sarah
# Posted on June 17th 2002 by x
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For the money, I maintain and repair computer printers and copiers. I also garden, fly-fish, am an avid woodworker. I build furniture and Appalachian dulcimers and make repairs on the odd instrument that comes across my bench. .
# Posted on June 17th 2002 by McBodhran
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I'm in between at the moment. Most recently I've worked
as a family stabilization worker for mostly emotionally
disturbed kids in foster care, and doing other child and
family counseling in child welfare. I'm moving to Philadelphia
though, and I'm hoping to go back to school to get a PhD
in clinical psychology. (It would be nice to work in a school
or hospital setting where I might actually get to go home at
night). I've also done reasearch in elementary education and
maternal and child health. In the past I've also worked for the
US army in Germany as a military post newspaper reporter
and editor, worked in a temp agency hiring and matching
employees to jobs, and several different clerical jobs.
Other than music, I'm a card carrying geek (member of
the Role Playing Gamers Association -- yes, even as an
adult) and I read read read. I used to be terribly into
rollerblading, but I fell a couple of years ago and hurt my
shoulder, and now I'm a little afraid to try again. I'm not
an NSS member, but I have done a little caving and really
enjoyed it.
# Posted on June 18th 2002 by Fsnockhart
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Hi
Well I work in a library in the uk.Strood library in Kent.Although if you saw me you would'nt think I was a librarian.I look more like a hippy.
Any-way i get to read all the latest titles.
Amanda
# Posted on June 18th 2002 by morrigan
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I'm a Junior undergrad. My major is Music Education, my minor is Folk Dance, and I would double minor in folk music if it was offered. I want to teach high school orchestra by day, Irish Step by night.
I run a couple of non-profit websites. I also design Irish Step Dance solo costumes, paint dancer portraits, and carve knotwork candles.
Sometimes I get a gig with my band, but for very very small spuds. I love performing.
# Posted on June 18th 2002 by EireLibra
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I work with an environmental non-profit group on the east coast and dance latin/ballroom (not for $ but it keeps me broke) and when ever, I can, I fiddle. either at sessions or practicing at home.
I iused to work for corporate America but notanymore...........
bai
# Posted on June 30th 2002 by manhattan