Hi. Guess this is more related to the website (and it's not directed at any one person) than to Irish music in particular, but I just wanted to toss this little public service announcement out there. FYI I work in the field of emotional support, so it's basically my job to deal with people (i.e. students) who make it their goal to try to annoy people (i.e. teachers) because they crave attention. Anywho, here goes:
If something is clearly a wind-up and likely a desperate attempt for attention, just avoid the discussion altogether. If a person starts some crazy thread and is clearly just trying to get a reaction from people, and that person indeed gets a reaction, they are going to keep pushing your buttons. If you want the person to go away, stop responding to them and eventually they are going to look silly because they are complaining and nobody is listening.
Again, this has sort of been mentioned before and I know I'm not in charge here, but being that my profession deals with this stuff on a daily basis and it is not necesarily common sense, I thought I might just toss that out there to anybody in the dark about behavior modification stuff.
Hope this concept helps anybody continually upset by people just trying to make them upset. Stop responding and they will stop posting.
Speaking as an accordion and concertina player, the motives behind button pushing are all too clear to me, but it's part of the music and just something I've learned to accept regardless of how upsetting it is to others or myself.
But some of the wind-ups are sooooooooooo funny. And they provide inside joke fodder for years to come. I think these people should be welcomed with open arms.
On a serious note, Jason's suggestion is aimed at frivolous or windy-uppy thread starters. But what if someone starts unproductive and unpleasant wind-ups and slaggings inside sensible and otherwise productive threads.
Jason - your professional advice please: what if "one particular name seems to pop up in alot of these threads that involve disagreements etc - stirring and giving opinions that really aren't needed" - a quote from a recent thread.
Like, sort of, so we could be ready just in case that ever happened.
Speaking as a retired psychiatric occupational therapist (which speaks nothing about my level of insight, but is true nontheless) and as a musician (which speaks even less, I fear) AND as a concertina player (which says loads)
I see a mutually symbiotic relationship between the winders and their repondents...the winderees
I don't really think it bothers anyone does it? It is benign and easy to ignore and is quite an amusement on a musicless evening. It's a bit of a performance as well is it not? I posit there exists a passionate correlation between an irascible poster and their enthusiasm to nail a tune.
Most of the characters who post on this board will be just great to meet in person! Particularly the curmudgeonly opinionated types.
Not tonight, I'm afraid. Going to dinner later so I thought I'd save the madness for when the vino kicks in. Anyway, I think if I spout any more, Kerri's going to give me a virtual kick in the Brazils.
Forgive me if this reply is unnecessarily superfluous - I may have missed a few comments. While Jason G's advice is no doubt sound, among the 8000-plus registered users of this site, there must be as many who would enjoy responding to attention-seeking wind-ups as people who would be inclined to post them.
Isn't tortolgy the study of cakes? Tautology, presumably, is the science of tuning bodhrans. Or is that a contradictory oxymoron.
For any wind-up wannabes out there who have trouble coming up with good "wind-up" topics for threads... I submit the following that you can simply choose from to start your own "wind-up" thread right away:
"Bodhran's are the true lead instruments in sessions"
"Why do fiddlers always act so bossy?"
"ITM doesn't sound right on piano accordions"
"Why does ITM always sound like blluegrass when Americans try to play it?"
"Some people can actually play ITM, the rest come to this website"
"We're really just kidding ourselves when we think uilleann pipes sound good"
"Real Irish sessions aren't really Irish"
"Planxty sucks the big one"
"I'm the best bodhran player in the world" (ok... I kinda stole this one)
And all this has what to do with Music?, just goes to show that alot of ye out there would perfer to talk about anything but Irish music.
Ah well, I guess the original advice on this thread doesn't work with me, so it must only be a theory.
I think that if we were all sitting around a table at a session, a tune would have been started up somewhere around...well, Jason would probably have just started a tune up, actually. I doubt the whole thread would have got off the ground if we could have just played instead.
I'm playing a tune at this very moment. Well, a song actually. Trying to get all the lyrics for "Arthur McBride" into my skull and figure out Paul Brady's magnificent guitar solo.
Wow, interesting (at least for me) to see where this thread has gone. Actually, where has it gone? Really didn't intend for it to go anywhere. Anywho, my brain hurts. I'm going to bed.
Be sure to sleep with a pillow over your head to avoid having som obnoxious hilarity enter your head and amuse itself by throwing about all sorts of steel pannery and jumping up and down on the mattress springs.
thought youd like that janek!
no we havent - in the sessions i play in, there are often alot of tourists, some annoying, but some who are interested in the music which is great!
I try an collect little phrases when chatting to them in exchange for a bit of Gaelic!
so if you annoy me ill call you a kurwa or something!!
For the love of my father, do not call me kurwa, it's feminine. I'd teach you some of good masculine words, but not on the board - Jeremy would finally look it up in the dictionary and banish all this fine thread to hell.
My grandparents had a wind-up gramophone with scores of 78s from the 20’s, mostly opera as I remember. They, the gramophone and the 78s have long since gone, but the sound from that horn was impressive. If a wind-up gramophone came my way again I wouldn’t avoid it, I’d probably end up collecting 78s (Michael Coleman et al, of course!).
Trevor
There is no volume control, and the only way to get the volume bearable for a small room is to physically mute the horn. For this purpose, a small cuddly toy dog was kept. Most of the time it sat looking into the horn in a veritabe "His Masters Voice" pose, but on loud things (e.g. Hamps Boogie Woogie) it was shoved head first into the horn.
Think of the havoc that could be brought on in a session if you had some of this in a spray bottle.
[Source: NewScientist.com January 14, 2005]
The Pentagon considered developing a host of non-lethal chemical weapons that would disrupt discipline and morale among enemy troops, newly declassified documents reveal.
Most bizarre among the plans was one for the development of an "aphrodisiac" chemical weapon that would make enemy soldiers sexually irresistible to each other. Provoking widespread homosexual behaviour among troops would cause a "distasteful but completely non-lethal" blow to morale, the proposal says.
Jack, the ancient Greeks took a more or less diametrically opposite viewpoint to that of the Pentagon. In particular, the Spartan army was one of the most feared in the ancient world. All it shows is that there is more than one way of instilling morale in the troops.
Trevor
Now I'm here I may as well stay on and give ye's an update. Avoid wind ups? geezafukenbrek.
Ignore tossers? I do my my best, but what if said tosser tries to become kingpin, in amongst a flock of good players? .....as has been our recent sad experience?
This is the brutal truth of how I, or we, dealt with it.
Yer man arrives. General groaning (at a sub-audible level) is perceived...ie the mood atmosphere kind of *freezes*.
He didn't turn up last week so we have to deal with him this week.
He does a few sh!te whistle solos. We'll let that go. So I do a couple of sets on the box....but then I didn't say I'd stopped playing the box, and started up another set of reels, oops, I had an incursion with this collosal genius of a whistle player, how was I to know he was about to raise the dead and have the living weeping and wailing as of his enormous and endless talent?
So at the end of my hijack, yes he did suss that, I'm offered outside for a "chat"...as just about to accomodate yer man, Cath rightly and sensibly sits me down, argues the whole thing to him in French. He then rares up (in English) who did I think I was? Billy neatly informs him that I started this session, I tell him also that we can do without his type thank you,
and a sullen silence then descended upon us
until we realised that Kevin was workin' away at some lovely Strathspeys..smiles replaced frowns. Music had won the day.
The Quare Fella hung around for an unnaturally long period of time before slinking off, maybe nearly an hour. I'm slightly saddened by the whole thing. I found myself dropping down and speaking the same nonverbal language as an psychopathic inadequate. Unlike some of my session peers, I do still think yer man has a personality disorder, veering close to psychopathy.
And that's it. He may be back, he may not. His presence has blighted our session, and like the butterfly wings story, blighted my relationship with some members here. Maybe that was only waiting to happen, though.
Thanks David. The sad truth is he's quite solid and I'm skinny so maybe best it resulted in nothing more than a neanderthal arm waving display. Yeah but no but, what a kaffuffel, I ask you.
avoiding wind-ups
avoiding wind-ups
Hi. Guess this is more related to the website (and it's not directed at any one person) than to Irish music in particular, but I just wanted to toss this little public service announcement out there. FYI I work in the field of emotional support, so it's basically my job to deal with people (i.e. students) who make it their goal to try to annoy people (i.e. teachers) because they crave attention. Anywho, here goes:
If something is clearly a wind-up and likely a desperate attempt for attention, just avoid the discussion altogether. If a person starts some crazy thread and is clearly just trying to get a reaction from people, and that person indeed gets a reaction, they are going to keep pushing your buttons. If you want the person to go away, stop responding to them and eventually they are going to look silly because they are complaining and nobody is listening.
Again, this has sort of been mentioned before and I know I'm not in charge here, but being that my profession deals with this stuff on a daily basis and it is not necesarily common sense, I thought I might just toss that out there to anybody in the dark about behavior modification stuff.
Hope this concept helps anybody continually upset by people just trying to make them upset. Stop responding and they will stop posting.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Jason G
Re: avoiding wind-ups
You cannot be serious - I have never read such rubbish in all my life - seriously, only messing, you're dead right.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Cuso
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Speaking as an accordion and concertina player, the motives behind button pushing are all too clear to me, but it's part of the music and just something I've learned to accept regardless of how upsetting it is to others or myself.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by ʎɹoʇısuɐɹʇ
Re: avoiding wind-ups
As a mandolin player I don't worry about my buttons being pushed.
I just fret.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by showaddydadito
Re: avoiding wind-ups
This is some kind of wind-up, ignore him folks.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by BegF
Re: avoiding wind-ups
OK, so you don't want to hear about the ground-breaking music news yesterday, "Musicologists discover the key of 'H'?"
All right then. It's your loss.
Jim
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Worldfiddler
Re: avoiding wind-ups
The Germans discovered the key of "H" centuries ago. In English we call it B flat, though. True story.
%7)
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Q
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Remember Kryten's discovery of the new musical notes Bo and Ro?
We often play in the key of Bo.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by showaddydadito
Re: avoiding wind-ups
But some of the wind-ups are sooooooooooo funny. And they provide inside joke fodder for years to come. I think these people should be welcomed with open arms.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: avoiding wind-ups
This "wound up" being a pretty humourous thread indeed!
AL Brown
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by AlBrown
Re: avoiding wind-ups
On a serious note, Jason's suggestion is aimed at frivolous or windy-uppy thread starters. But what if someone starts unproductive and unpleasant wind-ups and slaggings inside sensible and otherwise productive threads.
Jason - your professional advice please: what if "one particular name seems to pop up in alot of these threads that involve disagreements etc - stirring and giving opinions that really aren't needed" - a quote from a recent thread.
Like, sort of, so we could be ready just in case that ever happened.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by showaddydadito
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Dave, let's not pursue that one. I'm worried he was talking about me!
:^)
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: avoiding wind-ups
I certainly wasn't Kerri!!
Do you think I was out of order saying this guys? -
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Hugo Chavez
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Stefanpaz, stop disagreeing, or we will start ignoring your comments!
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Janek
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Hey, everybody! Look what I can do!
I can rub rosin on my face, stand on one foot, wave my hands over my head and go:
LaLAlalAlalalaLaLaLaLalAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Will you be my friend? I have a pool...
GIMME A HALL PASS! I HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM!!!!!!!!!!!
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by grymater
Re: avoiding wind-ups
(NOTE: it was a joke. I really like Kerri, and I really like Stefan. Please do not start to ignore my threads)
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Janek
Re: avoiding wind-ups
spoko!!!!!!!!
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Hugo Chavez
Re: avoiding wind-ups
do you hear a toilet flushing?
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Sorry that's me.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by BegF
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Speaking as a retired psychiatric occupational therapist (which speaks nothing about my level of insight, but is true nontheless) and as a musician (which speaks even less, I fear) AND as a concertina player (which says loads)
I see a mutually symbiotic relationship between the winders and their repondents...the winderees
I don't really think it bothers anyone does it? It is benign and easy to ignore and is quite an amusement on a musicless evening. It's a bit of a performance as well is it not? I posit there exists a passionate correlation between an irascible poster and their enthusiasm to nail a tune.
Most of the characters who post on this board will be just great to meet in person! Particularly the curmudgeonly opinionated types.
I have my list of favorites....don't you?
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by bt
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Certainly not!
(Mutually symbiotic - isn't that superfluously redundant?)
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: avoiding wind-ups
No Kerri - its a repetitive tautology.
Don't you know nothing?
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by showaddydadito
Re: avoiding wind-ups
hallpass - how delightfully american!
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Hugo Chavez
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Stefan - is that an oxymoron?
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by showaddydadito
Re: avoiding wind-ups
As a piper, I can't express myself unless I blow up.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by bellows boy
Re: avoiding wind-ups
haha showad.....no,
but a "foreign purist" is ;)
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Hugo Chavez
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Does anyone know how to start off "The Musicless Winderees"? If John would pipe down I think I might recall the first part.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by ʎɹoʇısuɐɹʇ
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Hey showaddydadito, what is a repetitive tautology?
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by AlBrown
Re: avoiding wind-ups
isn't "repetitive tautology" a tautology?
Or maybe that was the point!
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Conán McDonnell
Re: avoiding wind-ups
What is a repetitive tautology?
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by saltcast
Re: avoiding wind-ups
-Ouch!-
I'll have to take that one on the chin, showaddydadito.
Here's me ignoring your wind-up like a good winderee:
-Grrrrrrrrrr.....-
:^p
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by grymater
Re: avoiding wind-ups
two twins - needless repetition
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Conán McDonnell
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Watch it conan, some of my best friends are twins...
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Quick - somebody do another wind-up so I can see if I can ignore it.
I find they're kind of like car wrecks - you know you don't want to be involved but you just can't help having a sneaky peek.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by kidcharlemagne
Re: avoiding wind-ups
My mum's a twin!
But I wouldn't call her and her brother "two twins", I would just call them twins.
Are you starting?
:¬)
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Conán McDonnell
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Starting! I think that's just continuing. Are you still on your pills, Conán? If so, I want to watch! ;)
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Not tonight, I'm afraid. Going to dinner later so I thought I'd save the madness for when the vino kicks in. Anyway, I think if I spout any more, Kerri's going to give me a virtual kick in the Brazils.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Conán McDonnell
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Forgive me if this reply is unnecessarily superfluous - I may have missed a few comments. While Jason G's advice is no doubt sound, among the 8000-plus registered users of this site, there must be as many who would enjoy responding to attention-seeking wind-ups as people who would be inclined to post them.
Isn't tortolgy the study of cakes? Tautology, presumably, is the science of tuning bodhrans. Or is that a contradictory oxymoron.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by CreadurMawnOrganig
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Conan? You're going to dinner with Kerri?
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by showaddydadito
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Dave, I should be so lucky.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Conán McDonnell
Re: avoiding wind-ups
What's this? Somebody wants to feed me? Bring it! I'm starving!
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Next time I'm in your subcontinent I'll pack a cheese sandwich. Hope you like dairylea spread!
Gotta vamoose
C
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Conán McDonnell
Re: avoiding wind-ups
MG, ...tuning of bodhrans. Such a humorous witticism!
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: avoiding wind-ups
For any of the above questions above directed at me, all I will say is that I do not have all the answers. That's why we have Dr. Phil
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Jason G
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Stefan, now you impressed me. Where do you know "spoko" from? Have we met before?
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Janek
Re: avoiding wind-ups
After reading all this I'm beginning to think that GRY is ok, much more of this and I'll be listening to his songs.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by bodhran bliss
Re: avoiding wind-ups
What, you mean by comparison, bodhranbliss? ;) Go listen. Why the hell not?
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Where's Tanya when you need her?
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Phantom Button
Re: avoiding wind-ups
She did pop in briefly to wish everyone Merry Christmas, Jack, then disappeared again.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Tish
Re: avoiding wind-ups
For any wind-up wannabes out there who have trouble coming up with good "wind-up" topics for threads... I submit the following that you can simply choose from to start your own "wind-up" thread right away:
"Bodhran's are the true lead instruments in sessions"
"Why do fiddlers always act so bossy?"
"ITM doesn't sound right on piano accordions"
"Why does ITM always sound like blluegrass when Americans try to play it?"
"Some people can actually play ITM, the rest come to this website"
"We're really just kidding ourselves when we think uilleann pipes sound good"
"Real Irish sessions aren't really Irish"
"Planxty sucks the big one"
"I'm the best bodhran player in the world" (ok... I kinda stole this one)
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Phantom Button
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Wait a sec - you mean ITM is supposed to sound OK on a piano accordion? I'm lost.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: avoiding wind-ups
And all this has what to do with Music?, just goes to show that alot of ye out there would perfer to talk about anything but Irish music.
Ah well, I guess the original advice on this thread doesn't work with me, so it must only be a theory.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by compaqjohn
Re: avoiding wind-ups
I think that if we were all sitting around a table at a session, a tune would have been started up somewhere around...well, Jason would probably have just started a tune up, actually. I doubt the whole thread would have got off the ground if we could have just played instead.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: avoiding wind-ups
I'm playing a tune at this very moment. Well, a song actually. Trying to get all the lyrics for "Arthur McBride" into my skull and figure out Paul Brady's magnificent guitar solo.
So there.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Well, you're not going to do it while you're typing, are you?! hehehe
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: avoiding wind-ups
no, i mean, RIGHT NOW, after I've finished typing and you've begun reading. Here I go again.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: avoiding wind-ups
You go, girl. ;)
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: avoiding wind-ups
I'm playing a tune whilst typing this.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Phantom Button
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Nose flute?
I'm about to go start an embroidery file, so I guess you could say that I'll be sewing while typing.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: avoiding wind-ups
I won't ask what you're typing with.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Ew, now I have to spray the screen with rubbing alchohol or something.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: avoiding wind-ups
OK, Zina, I dare you to cross stitch your next post.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Ha. I could probably inflict some scars with the needles and scissors, though.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Wow, interesting (at least for me) to see where this thread has gone. Actually, where has it gone? Really didn't intend for it to go anywhere. Anywho, my brain hurts. I'm going to bed.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Jason G
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Be sure to sleep with a pillow over your head to avoid having som obnoxious hilarity enter your head and amuse itself by throwing about all sorts of steel pannery and jumping up and down on the mattress springs.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Pádraig
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Whoa. Sounds like you've got some interesting nights in your history, RP...
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Heh. My mind just likes odd metaphors and such.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Pádraig
Re: avoiding wind-ups
thought youd like that janek!
no we havent - in the sessions i play in, there are often alot of tourists, some annoying, but some who are interested in the music which is great!
I try an collect little phrases when chatting to them in exchange for a bit of Gaelic!
so if you annoy me ill call you a kurwa or something!!
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Hugo Chavez
Re: avoiding wind-ups
For the love of my father, do not call me kurwa, it's feminine. I'd teach you some of good masculine words, but not on the board - Jeremy would finally look it up in the dictionary and banish all this fine thread to hell.
Well, if you know 'spoko', respect to you, mate.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Janek
Re: avoiding wind-ups
My grandparents had a wind-up gramophone with scores of 78s from the 20’s, mostly opera as I remember. They, the gramophone and the 78s have long since gone, but the sound from that horn was impressive. If a wind-up gramophone came my way again I wouldn’t avoid it, I’d probably end up collecting 78s (Michael Coleman et al, of course!).
Trevor
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Trevor Jennings
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Q: Wanna buy some pornographic records?
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Just a person
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Er, okay!
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Q
Re: avoiding wind-ups
ssshhh...eh...me too....brown paer packaging...shsshhh....no reason.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by BegF
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Sorry, thought that might happen (just after I posted) ... it's a Q&A...
A: No thanks, I haven't got a pornograph.
I'll get my coat.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Just a person
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Oh. I knew that.
*ahem*
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Q
Re: avoiding wind-ups
My sister used to have a wind-up gramophone.
There is no volume control, and the only way to get the volume bearable for a small room is to physically mute the horn. For this purpose, a small cuddly toy dog was kept. Most of the time it sat looking into the horn in a veritabe "His Masters Voice" pose, but on loud things (e.g. Hamps Boogie Woogie) it was shoved head first into the horn.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by showaddydadito
Re: avoiding wind-ups
LOL - no, not really?
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: avoiding wind-ups
It's absolutely true Zina.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by showaddydadito
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Oh dear, I wish I had a picture! LOL
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: avoiding wind-ups
There was a photograph. I'll email my sister to see if she still has it.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by showaddydadito
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Yes, please. I'm not sure what I'll do with it, Dave. Maybe just put it up as my computer wall paper to cheer me up when I look at it. ;)
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Zina Lee
Arthur McBride for Kerri
Kerri, go here if you haven't already done so:
http://www.paulbrady.com/tablature/am.asp
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by grego
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Golly. Look a' that. That stuff's all greek to me, but I bet I could figure it out with a little motivation...
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: avoiding wind-ups
What's this thread about again?
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Phantom Button
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Something about clocks.
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Q
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Think of the havoc that could be brought on in a session if you had some of this in a spray bottle.
[Source: NewScientist.com January 14, 2005]
The Pentagon considered developing a host of non-lethal chemical weapons that would disrupt discipline and morale among enemy troops, newly declassified documents reveal.
Most bizarre among the plans was one for the development of an "aphrodisiac" chemical weapon that would make enemy soldiers sexually irresistible to each other. Provoking widespread homosexual behaviour among troops would cause a "distasteful but completely non-lethal" blow to morale, the proposal says.
# Posted on January 15th 2005 by Phantom Button
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Huh -- some of the stories I've heard about certain sessions sound a bit like someone at the Pentagon's been trying out the idea out in the field...
# Posted on January 15th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Jack, the ancient Greeks took a more or less diametrically opposite viewpoint to that of the Pentagon. In particular, the Spartan army was one of the most feared in the ancient world. All it shows is that there is more than one way of instilling morale in the troops.
Trevor
# Posted on January 15th 2005 by Trevor Jennings
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Wellp.
Now I'm here I may as well stay on and give ye's an update. Avoid wind ups? geezafukenbrek.
Ignore tossers? I do my my best, but what if said tosser tries to become kingpin, in amongst a flock of good players? .....as has been our recent sad experience?
This is the brutal truth of how I, or we, dealt with it.
Yer man arrives. General groaning (at a sub-audible level) is perceived...ie the mood atmosphere kind of *freezes*.
He didn't turn up last week so we have to deal with him this week.
He does a few sh!te whistle solos. We'll let that go. So I do a couple of sets on the box....but then I didn't say I'd stopped playing the box, and started up another set of reels, oops, I had an incursion with this collosal genius of a whistle player, how was I to know he was about to raise the dead and have the living weeping and wailing as of his enormous and endless talent?
So at the end of my hijack, yes he did suss that, I'm offered outside for a "chat"...as just about to accomodate yer man, Cath rightly and sensibly sits me down, argues the whole thing to him in French. He then rares up (in English) who did I think I was? Billy neatly informs him that I started this session, I tell him also that we can do without his type thank you,
and a sullen silence then descended upon us
until we realised that Kevin was workin' away at some lovely Strathspeys..smiles replaced frowns. Music had won the day.
The Quare Fella hung around for an unnaturally long period of time before slinking off, maybe nearly an hour. I'm slightly saddened by the whole thing. I found myself dropping down and speaking the same nonverbal language as an psychopathic inadequate. Unlike some of my session peers, I do still think yer man has a personality disorder, veering close to psychopathy.
And that's it. He may be back, he may not. His presence has blighted our session, and like the butterfly wings story, blighted my relationship with some members here. Maybe that was only waiting to happen, though.
# Posted on January 16th 2005 by Rudall the time
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Thanks David. The sad truth is he's quite solid and I'm skinny so maybe best it resulted in nothing more than a neanderthal arm waving display. Yeah but no but, what a kaffuffel, I ask you.
# Posted on January 16th 2005 by Rudall the time
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Who was this guy, Rab? Not the Scottish hotelier who plays a bit of whistle?
Yeeaaasss
# Posted on January 16th 2005 by John J.
Re: avoiding wind-ups
The one from "L B"
# Posted on January 16th 2005 by John J.
Re: avoiding wind-ups
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.....
# Posted on January 16th 2005 by Rudall the time