So I picked up the fiddle again the other day and noticed how much my playing has improved since the last time I played and decided it is time for me to get a good instrument. So $2000 maximum price with case, bow, ect. I would like it to be acoustic with a pickup or an acoustic electric. I don't know what to get could somebody give me some recommendations?
I owe Ged a belated plug for his service and patience. I bought a sweet fiddle from him last fall that I am vey happy with. But Ged's generosity with his time and knowledge were what made the transaction special.
My hunch is that you'll be better off finding a good sounding acoustic fiddle and then buying the pickup, pre-amp, and etc. separately.
I just got a new fiddle (which Will helped me find when he was down a bit ago), and I'm ecstatic with it, Avery! I'm sure you'll love it too. I'd say get Will to come visit you and go shopping with you. ;) Seriously, get out and around and play bunches and bunches of fiddles at the shops around you. Sooner or later, one will call your name.
The reason I know about this site is that a musician friend of mine (Michel Jammoneau) who lives in Nantes, France, is making really big waves with his Bows at the moment, although they cost more than a lot of fiddles.....
I forgot to mention that this will not happen for a while as I am looking now to see what I will SAVE money for. Just wanted to let everyone know other wise I would be getting offers right now. There are really not any music stores that have Fiddles for sale and much less ones that have Fiddles they will let people play, so it seems I will have to do my best from a sound clip and lots o' pictures.
Yamaha makes a cool-looking electric fiddle for around 900 canadian bucks. Sounds OK if you have a good sound guy working for you and it's a lot easier than trying to get a good electric sound out of an acoustic fiddle. The down side is that it's weighted kind of funny and likes to try to fall off your shoulder.
The other down side is, well, its an electric fiddle. You can't bring it to sessions. With an acoustic fiddle, follow Will's advice and add the electric doohickies after you've found a nice instrument. I'm not even sure anyone makes an acoustic fiddle with a factory pickup. I've never seen one.
I have a Barcus Barry pick-up that is easy to clip on when I have a gig and remove when I don't, and it sounds great. Something like what I have will run you another 300 bucks over the price of your instrument, so don't forget to factor that in. Good luck.
Avery, fiddles usually have their very own stores. If they've made it into your local Long & McQuade, they're not worth buying. I'll bet there is a dusty old luthier's shop somewhere in New Jersey with a tonne of fiddles for sale and a gruff and skeptical looking old man with sawdust under his fingernails who would be happy to let you play them until you find one you like.
At least, there was a store like this in Calgary, and there is a nearly identical one here in Montreal, so I assume there is one in every major city in North America.
Check out http://www.sonicviolins.co.uk/ for a superb quality well-priced acoustic-amplified-electric fiddle. Sounds great through good amplification, and still a decent sound when played acoustically. Listen to the sound clips on the site.
I'm getting one soon to demo my audio and video clips on my teaching / learning site at http://www.worldfiddlemusic.co.uk/ , as well as using the excellent Yamaha SV-200 (entirely) electric fiddle.
Well, there you go. I stand corrected. I've still never seen one. (OK, well, before I looked at that there website I had never seen one, and now I've only ever seen a picture of one.)
Barcus-Berry - over-priced, over-coloured, and over here. Good fiddles, but a bit like buying a Rolls-Royce when you can get better value from a BMW (sorry, Jean-Luc Ponty geezer!!)
Well, it's got electrics. Doesn't that mean it has to be painted candy apple red with purple sparkly bits? I think there's a law or something.
I think the only pure electric I'd want to own based strictly on looks would be the Steinberger. Beautiful things to behold, but even in the Czech made models we've definately moved out of the bargain basement.
Avery, shops like Ged's (and most reputable violin shops) will ship a fiddle to you for a week or so test run. You're out the cost of shipping it back (around $35 US) if you don't like it. Not the most efficient way to try out fiddles, but people like Ged can get a good idea of what sound you're looking for just by talking about it.
You should go talk to this guy before you buy anything, even if it's just for kicks. Even if you don't buy one of his instruments you'll need somebody to keep the one you do find ship shape.
Kerri, there is a Luthier in my town but he only sells his instruments and a few accesories his instruments are more in the $4000 range more than I could spend on Fiddle (yet with Pipes it is a different story my UPs which I am saving for will run about $4300 the difference is I could get a nice fiddle for $2000 not $4000 why spend that much when I don't have to? Also I am more of a Piper than a Fiddler just natural attraction and skill at the general instrument not being specific to one type of Bagpipe) now back to the point. Plus judging by the area code in his phone # he is at least a 45 minute drive in the link you have not the guy in my town. I like the look and sound of the Sonic Fiddles.
Are you in New Jersey? Is the link I posted the guy you're talking about? His website says he also sells instruments on consignment, so I wouldn't be surprised if he'd be willing to help you find something in your price range.
You can get a nice fiddle for way less than 2000, I should think, you just have to shop around a lot, as Zina says. I love my fiddle, and it cost me nothing at all. (What a deal!)
I can also recommend a guy named Steve Perry in Tennessee. His website is www.giannaviolins.com He has a lot of stuff in your price range. He not only makes his own fiddles (more $), but imports some in the white and goes all the body tuning, graduation, varnishing and setup on them. He does different setups based on the type of music you play as well as being very knowledgeable on the myriad of different violin designs. He's also very good at helping you pick out something based on what type of tone you want, playing characteristics, power, etc. His toll free # is on his site. He'll give info over the phone. Also will play fiddles over the phone. He offers a trial period, as well as 100% trade-in on the stuff he sells under his shop line. I bought my back-up fiddle from him and am 100% happy. It's a great instrument, was affordable. It's actually the one I bring to sessions now, as my 80 year old hand made fiddle doesn't like having Guinness spilt on it.
You can "read up" on him there for yourself - he takes a lot of time and trouble to answer questions and seems very knowledgeable, professional and helpful.
It would be a bit of a hike for you, but I've purchased just about everything I own from Paul Stevens Violins in Ardmore, right outside Philadelphia. He runs a private dealy out of his house. http://www.stevensviolins.com/nss-folder/folder/index.html
He's a great guy, very fair, and offers an excellent trade-in policy.
A few years ago I also wanted a better fiddle. It was an interesting process, after which I acquired my present fiddle which I love. You might be interested an article I wrote about this for the Victory Music Review in Seattle - http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hend/VictoryMusic/FIDDLE-VIOLIN.html
meempt, I looked on the Gianna site those look like nice fiddles. What model did you get? The Tennese is in my price range plus a few of the others he sells.
sifudave, I usually get better after not playing for a while I don't know why but hey I don't care it is a great talent.
Zina, it is called your crappy music store with one or two fddles and no bows with rosin on them how can you play when they won't let you rosin the bow.
I am highly thinking about the Sonics and the Giannas.
unseen, I got the "Milano". It's a cheaper ($475) trade fiddle he sells, but still good. It's my back-up, so I didn't need anything too fancy. You may want to look at the "Appalachian" ($1699) He can set it up for steel strings (he usually specs Helicores for that which are quite nice). The Appalachian is a bit warmer and richer than the Tennessee I think. Nicer wood, varnish etc. too. It's probably also even more responsive and tonally rich. Perfect for ITM. If I had $4500-$5000 to blow on a fiddle, I'd commission one of his hand-made ones.
After the case andbow and stuff the Appalachian would be over my limit but hey I can stretch it a bit if what I really want is a 100-200 or so over (it would be about $200 over) so maybe it would be that one and get a pick up later. If I got the Tennessee I could get the Pick Up but I would rather have the Appalachian I will see how it goes (this is 5th on my list of instruments to buy right after a nice Wooden Flute).
If the bow you have now is pretty good, why not just use that?
A really good bow is almost like buying another instrument! They do get expensive. My main bow cost me a little bit more than the 2nd fiddle!
Maybe you could (should, even) bring your own bow to the music store. A, they couldn't complain about the rosin, and B, you'd be used to the feel of the bow and could concentrate on the sound of the fiddle.
Actually, good wisdom is to bring your bow anytime your trying out an instrument. They're all different and the one you're used to using will perform the best. I recently had my main bow re-haired and was using my second bow. It's a pretty good bow, just different. It took a few days though to be playing as well with that one as with my other.
At our tune learning workshop last night one of the ladies turned up with two c-f bows she’d been loaned by a local dealer to try out. They were both middle of the range, from the same maker I believe, and very similar in price; one had the standard black stick and the other was gold-coloured. Those two bows produced markedly different tones, both different from her wood bow, and and again from the c-f viola bow I was using for the workshop, which she also tried out. It’s not too much to say that different types of music - and different types of playing - can demand different bows.
Take your time choosing a bow; it can’t be done in 5 minutes. If possible, get the loan of two or three bows from a dealer for a week to try out. If it’s there, the right bow will find you. A reputable dealer who knows what’s what in bows and instruments should be prepared to advise you and to loan out bows for a trial period.
Trevor
Unseen122, I agree with you. However, a c-f bow seems to be about half the price of a wood bow of similar playing quality, and most of us can’t afford to ignore that fact. There is enormous wastage in making good wood bows; a bow maker in Bristol with an international reputation reckons the wastage is about 80%. Part of the problem seems to be that the maker finds it very difficult to predict the quality of the bow until making is well-nigh complete. C-f bows, on the other hand, are predictable in their composition, manufacture and behaviour, so the wastage is miniscule.
Trevor
Well I have made a desicion I think. The Sonic Attack and the Sub Sonic put together only about $1500US because I decided I didn't really want to spend $2000+ that price above includes Bow and case but Rosin and shoulder rest would be extra so everything would be about $1600 US with 2 Kuns and 2 packs of Taqrtini rosin.
I Want a Better Fiddle
I Want a Better Fiddle
So I picked up the fiddle again the other day and noticed how much my playing has improved since the last time I played and decided it is time for me to get a good instrument. So $2000 maximum price with case, bow, ect. I would like it to be acoustic with a pickup or an acoustic electric. I don't know what to get could somebody give me some recommendations?
# Posted on January 11th 2005 by Why Bother?
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
Avery, check out the fiddles Ged Foley has for sale from his shop in Athen, OH: http://www.efiddles.com/pages/1/index.htm
I owe Ged a belated plug for his service and patience. I bought a sweet fiddle from him last fall that I am vey happy with. But Ged's generosity with his time and knowledge were what made the transaction special.
My hunch is that you'll be better off finding a good sounding acoustic fiddle and then buying the pickup, pre-amp, and etc. separately.
# Posted on January 11th 2005 by Will Harmon
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I just got a new fiddle (which Will helped me find when he was down a bit ago), and I'm ecstatic with it, Avery! I'm sure you'll love it too. I'd say get Will to come visit you and go shopping with you. ;) Seriously, get out and around and play bunches and bunches of fiddles at the shops around you. Sooner or later, one will call your name.
# Posted on January 11th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
I mean, you'll love getting your new one as much as I'm loving getting mine!
# Posted on January 11th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
Have a look at this.
www.orc.ca/~riedstra/violins.htm
Seems like they have instruments at all sorts of prices.
Good luck.
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Ian Stevenson
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
The reason I know about this site is that a musician friend of mine (Michel Jammoneau) who lives in Nantes, France, is making really big waves with his Bows at the moment, although they cost more than a lot of fiddles.....
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Ian Stevenson
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
I forgot to mention that this will not happen for a while as I am looking now to see what I will SAVE money for. Just wanted to let everyone know other wise I would be getting offers right now. There are really not any music stores that have Fiddles for sale and much less ones that have Fiddles they will let people play, so it seems I will have to do my best from a sound clip and lots o' pictures.
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Why Bother?
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
Yamaha makes a cool-looking electric fiddle for around 900 canadian bucks. Sounds OK if you have a good sound guy working for you and it's a lot easier than trying to get a good electric sound out of an acoustic fiddle. The down side is that it's weighted kind of funny and likes to try to fall off your shoulder.
The other down side is, well, its an electric fiddle. You can't bring it to sessions. With an acoustic fiddle, follow Will's advice and add the electric doohickies after you've found a nice instrument. I'm not even sure anyone makes an acoustic fiddle with a factory pickup. I've never seen one.
I have a Barcus Barry pick-up that is easy to clip on when I have a gig and remove when I don't, and it sounds great. Something like what I have will run you another 300 bucks over the price of your instrument, so don't forget to factor that in. Good luck.
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Kerri Brown
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Avery, fiddles usually have their very own stores. If they've made it into your local Long & McQuade, they're not worth buying. I'll bet there is a dusty old luthier's shop somewhere in New Jersey with a tonne of fiddles for sale and a gruff and skeptical looking old man with sawdust under his fingernails who would be happy to let you play them until you find one you like.
At least, there was a store like this in Calgary, and there is a nearly identical one here in Montreal, so I assume there is one in every major city in North America.
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
Check out http://www.sonicviolins.co.uk/ for a superb quality well-priced acoustic-amplified-electric fiddle. Sounds great through good amplification, and still a decent sound when played acoustically. Listen to the sound clips on the site.
I'm getting one soon to demo my audio and video clips on my teaching / learning site at http://www.worldfiddlemusic.co.uk/ , as well as using the excellent Yamaha SV-200 (entirely) electric fiddle.
Jim
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Worldfiddler
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
"I'm not even sure anyone makes an acoustic fiddle with a factory pickup. I've never seen one."
Funny you should mention Barcus-Berry. They sell a factory made acoustic/electric violin. A grand American list price with case and bow.
I've never played one so I can't say anything about the instrument other than note its existence.
KFG
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by KFG
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
Well, there you go. I stand corrected. I've still never seen one. (OK, well, before I looked at that there website I had never seen one, and now I've only ever seen a picture of one.)
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
Barcus-Berry - over-priced, over-coloured, and over here. Good fiddles, but a bit like buying a Rolls-Royce when you can get better value from a BMW (sorry, Jean-Luc Ponty geezer!!)
Jim
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Worldfiddler
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
Well, it's got electrics. Doesn't that mean it has to be painted candy apple red with purple sparkly bits? I think there's a law or something.
I think the only pure electric I'd want to own based strictly on looks would be the Steinberger. Beautiful things to behold, but even in the Czech made models we've definately moved out of the bargain basement.
KFG
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by KFG
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
Avery, shops like Ged's (and most reputable violin shops) will ship a fiddle to you for a week or so test run. You're out the cost of shipping it back (around $35 US) if you don't like it. Not the most efficient way to try out fiddles, but people like Ged can get a good idea of what sound you're looking for just by talking about it.
You might walso want to look at LR Bagg's pick ups: http://www.lrbaggs.com/
and Jensen electric fiddles (my choice if I ever go fully electric): http://www.halcyon.com/jensmus/violin.htm
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Will Harmon
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http://www.lightbubble.com/bowed/graphics/steinv1l.jpg
http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~kehinger/ee107/violin1.jpg
http://www.jsbach.net/images/Jordan6StringViolin.jpg
http://www.sharmusic.com/grafx/shar_violin_box.jpg
There's some wacky stuff out there!
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
And here, this looks like the kind of dusty little shop I was talking about:
http://www.rgviolins.com/biography.html
You should go talk to this guy before you buy anything, even if it's just for kicks. Even if you don't buy one of his instruments you'll need somebody to keep the one you do find ship shape.
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
Kerri, there is a Luthier in my town but he only sells his instruments and a few accesories his instruments are more in the $4000 range more than I could spend on Fiddle (yet with Pipes it is a different story my UPs which I am saving for will run about $4300 the difference is I could get a nice fiddle for $2000 not $4000 why spend that much when I don't have to? Also I am more of a Piper than a Fiddler just natural attraction and skill at the general instrument not being specific to one type of Bagpipe) now back to the point. Plus judging by the area code in his phone # he is at least a 45 minute drive in the link you have not the guy in my town. I like the look and sound of the Sonic Fiddles.
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Why Bother?
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
Are you in New Jersey? Is the link I posted the guy you're talking about? His website says he also sells instruments on consignment, so I wouldn't be surprised if he'd be willing to help you find something in your price range.
You can get a nice fiddle for way less than 2000, I should think, you just have to shop around a lot, as Zina says. I love my fiddle, and it cost me nothing at all. (What a deal!)
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
The link you posted is not the guy that lives in my town but I do live in New Jersey. No better price than free.
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Why Bother?
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
well, she could have paid me to take it...
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
You got better while you weren't playing
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by sifudave54
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
I can also recommend a guy named Steve Perry in Tennessee. His website is www.giannaviolins.com He has a lot of stuff in your price range. He not only makes his own fiddles (more $), but imports some in the white and goes all the body tuning, graduation, varnishing and setup on them. He does different setups based on the type of music you play as well as being very knowledgeable on the myriad of different violin designs. He's also very good at helping you pick out something based on what type of tone you want, playing characteristics, power, etc. His toll free # is on his site. He'll give info over the phone. Also will play fiddles over the phone. He offers a trial period, as well as 100% trade-in on the stuff he sells under his shop line. I bought my back-up fiddle from him and am 100% happy. It's a great instrument, was affordable. It's actually the one I bring to sessions now, as my 80 year old hand made fiddle doesn't like having Guinness spilt on it.
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by meemtp
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
I've not dealt with Steve Perry but would second what meemtp says on the basis of Steve's (giannaviolins) posts here:
http://www.fiddleforum.com/fiddleforum/index.php
You can "read up" on him there for yourself - he takes a lot of time and trouble to answer questions and seems very knowledgeable, professional and helpful.
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Tish
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"I do live in New Jersey"
My condolences.
KFG
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by KFG
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Wait, Avery -- are you telling us that there's somewhere that sells fiddles that won't let you play it? How does that work, fer catsake?!
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
Sifudave, are you lost? I think I may be...
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
What a coincidence: I wanna fiddle better.
It would be a bit of a hike for you, but I've purchased just about everything I own from Paul Stevens Violins in Ardmore, right outside Philadelphia. He runs a private dealy out of his house.
http://www.stevensviolins.com/nss-folder/folder/index.html
He's a great guy, very fair, and offers an excellent trade-in policy.
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by grymater
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
A few years ago I also wanted a better fiddle. It was an interesting process, after which I acquired my present fiddle which I love. You might be interested an article I wrote about this for the Victory Music Review in Seattle - http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hend/VictoryMusic/FIDDLE-VIOLIN.html
# Posted on January 12th 2005 by Stewart
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
meempt, I looked on the Gianna site those look like nice fiddles. What model did you get? The Tennese is in my price range plus a few of the others he sells.
sifudave, I usually get better after not playing for a while I don't know why but hey I don't care it is a great talent.
Zina, it is called your crappy music store with one or two fddles and no bows with rosin on them how can you play when they won't let you rosin the bow.
I am highly thinking about the Sonics and the Giannas.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Why Bother?
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
LOL -- they obviously don't want to sell the things, then! That's hilarious!
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Zina Lee
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
unseen, I got the "Milano". It's a cheaper ($475) trade fiddle he sells, but still good. It's my back-up, so I didn't need anything too fancy. You may want to look at the "Appalachian" ($1699) He can set it up for steel strings (he usually specs Helicores for that which are quite nice). The Appalachian is a bit warmer and richer than the Tennessee I think. Nicer wood, varnish etc. too. It's probably also even more responsive and tonally rich. Perfect for ITM. If I had $4500-$5000 to blow on a fiddle, I'd commission one of his hand-made ones.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by meemtp
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
After the case andbow and stuff the Appalachian would be over my limit but hey I can stretch it a bit if what I really want is a 100-200 or so over (it would be about $200 over) so maybe it would be that one and get a pick up later. If I got the Tennessee I could get the Pick Up but I would rather have the Appalachian I will see how it goes (this is 5th on my list of instruments to buy right after a nice Wooden Flute).
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Why Bother?
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
If the bow you have now is pretty good, why not just use that?
A really good bow is almost like buying another instrument! They do get expensive. My main bow cost me a little bit more than the 2nd fiddle!
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by meemtp
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
Maybe you could (should, even) bring your own bow to the music store. A, they couldn't complain about the rosin, and B, you'd be used to the feel of the bow and could concentrate on the sound of the fiddle.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Kerri Brown
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
Actually, good wisdom is to bring your bow anytime your trying out an instrument. They're all different and the one you're used to using will perform the best. I recently had my main bow re-haired and was using my second bow. It's a pretty good bow, just different. It took a few days though to be playing as well with that one as with my other.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by meemtp
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
My bow is not that good so a new bow is in the plans.
# Posted on January 13th 2005 by Why Bother?
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
http://www.paulbradleyviolins.com
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Murrough
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At our tune learning workshop last night one of the ladies turned up with two c-f bows she’d been loaned by a local dealer to try out. They were both middle of the range, from the same maker I believe, and very similar in price; one had the standard black stick and the other was gold-coloured. Those two bows produced markedly different tones, both different from her wood bow, and and again from the c-f viola bow I was using for the workshop, which she also tried out. It’s not too much to say that different types of music - and different types of playing - can demand different bows.
Take your time choosing a bow; it can’t be done in 5 minutes. If possible, get the loan of two or three bows from a dealer for a week to try out. If it’s there, the right bow will find you. A reputable dealer who knows what’s what in bows and instruments should be prepared to advise you and to loan out bows for a trial period.
Trevor
# Posted on January 14th 2005 by Trevor Jennings
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
I prefer wood bows meself. I pretty much prefer wood anything.
# Posted on January 15th 2005 by Why Bother?
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
Unseen122, I agree with you. However, a c-f bow seems to be about half the price of a wood bow of similar playing quality, and most of us can’t afford to ignore that fact. There is enormous wastage in making good wood bows; a bow maker in Bristol with an international reputation reckons the wastage is about 80%. Part of the problem seems to be that the maker finds it very difficult to predict the quality of the bow until making is well-nigh complete. C-f bows, on the other hand, are predictable in their composition, manufacture and behaviour, so the wastage is miniscule.
Trevor
# Posted on January 15th 2005 by Trevor Jennings
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
Maybe I shoudl consider it I mean I really haven't been playing that long (about 10 or 11 months but I didn't even realise it was that long).
# Posted on January 15th 2005 by Why Bother?
Re: I Want a Better Fiddle
Is it worth getting an EV-205 yamaha? It's about $1,200 US, and I'm not sure if it is worth the money.
# Posted on January 15th 2005 by irishpenguin
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Well I have made a desicion I think. The Sonic Attack and the Sub Sonic put together only about $1500US because I decided I didn't really want to spend $2000+ that price above includes Bow and case but Rosin and shoulder rest would be extra so everything would be about $1600 US with 2 Kuns and 2 packs of Taqrtini rosin.
# Posted on January 15th 2005 by Why Bother?
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Oh yeah this has been moved to 3rd on my list still after the Flute though.
# Posted on January 15th 2005 by Why Bother?