as the last few notes of the tune were played,there was a little,a very little vibrato.It happened, and felt quite natural,only I can't remember what I did.Does anyone else remember achieving something like this for the first time, and if so, how long does it take to become deliberate and controllable?
yours worzel.
aw, sounds like a sweet and wonderful moment for you. This is the stuff of musical journeying. Uness you play a viola. BTW Zina there is a fellow named Dave on this site who plays a viloa,but icant match him up with the member profiles. you know him?
thanks, the viola is great, and one of the reasons that I started on the fiddle. As a real beginner on both, not a great deal of anything apart from right notes in the right order on the viola. We have just started a small local orchestra, first gig on 19th June.
It's good being a viola in the orchestra, except for the (very bad ) viola jokes.
yours worzel
I don't hink violas are offensive at all - they have a lovely, mellow, sonorous tone.
Don't they get bad press 'cos of the fact that the parts written for them in classical music are often (but not always) a leetle beet boring? Aww the poor old violas!
we, that is the four violists, are getting t-shirts printed, with,"Violas, the brains of the orchestra."
we also do not understand the opprobrium induced by our instruments, although some of us play rather less than well.
Do we count as a minority interest group, are we being discriminated against?
it's good to be one anyway.yours worzel
as another viola player I would agree, we are being discriminated against.
I think it's because almost every classical violinist I've met seems to think they too can play the viola. Most of them can't, but because they think that they can play viola and that violists can't play violin, then they are obviously only there to make jokes about. or something like that.
Maybe it's because they're the ONLY instrument in the World (well I've never heard of any others) that uses alto clef, so the look on their faces when they have to play anything that wasn't meant for viola....
When Frankie Gavin used a viola on one of his early, tracks, it just sounded like a fiddle recording slowed down...and he's good player...
Makes you think.
Back on topic, years back I just finished playing a tune on fiddle (can't remember which one). I was so pleased to get it right, I finished the last note with a heavy bow and a heavy left-hand finger press....and that was the start of vibrato.
Worzel, had the same experience last week. (Cue Theramin...) Had just re-read Will's excellent advice on the elusive vibrato, and it worked for that day. Next day nothing. Sort of back Saturday. Works best when not thinking about it.
Michele
yes,Veronica,i was that bigdave -you sent me a slightly scary email- but on reflection iT wAs jusT yoUR crazy way OF SPELLINg that somewhat freaked me out-know what i mean?- i sent you a very polite email in return which you never acknowledged.not that it matters.oh no.cue smiley face! as i said,hope the bread thing is going well.
really,best wishes to you
re the viola thing,-i've said all i have to on that in past threads,suffice to say that one smart-arse member here attempted to tell a so-called viola joke and got it totally arseways about in his first try - i rest my case.
viola players are a far superior species to orchestral violinists in every possible way.and they can drink more too.remember,what is good on viola is always good on the violin but not all that is good for vln works on the viola-we use our ginormous brains to GREAT effect.haha,hoho,hehe-in the words of the immortal stan & ollie.
anybody wishing to take issue with that,sports hall roof,4pm.i'll sort you out.
i could rant further,trust me,but i shall desist from my homer simpson moment...
such as it was.at 4.55am.
oh dear...
sorry,worzel-in last night's fervour i forgot the essence of your thread- i did have a 'moment' when for the very first time i got the merest hint of a little bit of 'swing' during a reel i was having a go at.i was so surprised i had to stop.
dunnit
dunnit
as the last few notes of the tune were played,there was a little,a very little vibrato.It happened, and felt quite natural,only I can't remember what I did.Does anyone else remember achieving something like this for the first time, and if so, how long does it take to become deliberate and controllable?
yours worzel.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by gummidge
Re: dunnit
How long? In my case, only a little bit longer than a lifetime.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Bren
Re: dunnit
I played classical viola, my biggest problem with vibrato was NOT doing it.
I know that doesn't help you much.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: dunnit
aw, sounds like a sweet and wonderful moment for you. This is the stuff of musical journeying. Uness you play a viola. BTW Zina there is a fellow named Dave on this site who plays a viloa,but icant match him up with the member profiles. you know him?
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by vboyd100
Re: dunnit
Check out "Bigdave"
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by murfbox
Re: dunnit
bigdave is likely the guy you want, vboyd, as Michael says.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: dunnit
thx
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by vboyd100
Re: dunnit
thanks, the viola is great, and one of the reasons that I started on the fiddle. As a real beginner on both, not a great deal of anything apart from right notes in the right order on the viola. We have just started a small local orchestra, first gig on 19th June.
It's good being a viola in the orchestra, except for the (very bad ) viola jokes.
yours worzel
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by gummidge
Re: dunnit
I've never understood the origin of the viola joke thing. Bodhrans, banjos and accordians OK, but how can violas be offensive?
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by ...
Re: dunnit
I don't hink violas are offensive at all - they have a lovely, mellow, sonorous tone.
Don't they get bad press 'cos of the fact that the parts written for them in classical music are often (but not always) a leetle beet boring? Aww the poor old violas!
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by Conán McDonnell
Re: dunnit
we, that is the four violists, are getting t-shirts printed, with,"Violas, the brains of the orchestra."
we also do not understand the opprobrium induced by our instruments, although some of us play rather less than well.
Do we count as a minority interest group, are we being discriminated against?
it's good to be one anyway.yours worzel
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by gummidge
Re: dunnit
as another viola player I would agree, we are being discriminated against.
I think it's because almost every classical violinist I've met seems to think they too can play the viola. Most of them can't, but because they think that they can play viola and that violists can't play violin, then they are obviously only there to make jokes about. or something like that.
# Posted on June 6th 2004 by To-Tretur
Re: dunnit
Maybe it's because they're the ONLY instrument in the World (well I've never heard of any others) that uses alto clef, so the look on their faces when they have to play anything that wasn't meant for viola....
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by Joe CSS
Re: dunnit
When Frankie Gavin used a viola on one of his early, tracks, it just sounded like a fiddle recording slowed down...and he's good player...
Makes you think.
Jim
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by Worldfiddler
Re: dunnit
Back on topic, years back I just finished playing a tune on fiddle (can't remember which one). I was so pleased to get it right, I finished the last note with a heavy bow and a heavy left-hand finger press....and that was the start of vibrato.
Jim
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by Worldfiddler
Re: dunnit
Worzel, had the same experience last week. (Cue Theramin...) Had just re-read Will's excellent advice on the elusive vibrato, and it worked for that day. Next day nothing. Sort of back Saturday. Works best when not thinking about it.
Michele
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by Michele Sims
Re: dunnit
yes,Veronica,i was that bigdave -you sent me a slightly scary email- but on reflection iT wAs jusT yoUR crazy way OF SPELLINg that somewhat freaked me out-know what i mean?- i sent you a very polite email in return which you never acknowledged.not that it matters.oh no.cue smiley face! as i said,hope the bread thing is going well.
really,best wishes to you
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by biggus dave
Re: dunnit
re the viola thing,-i've said all i have to on that in past threads,suffice to say that one smart-arse member here attempted to tell a so-called viola joke and got it totally arseways about in his first try - i rest my case.
viola players are a far superior species to orchestral violinists in every possible way.and they can drink more too.remember,what is good on viola is always good on the violin but not all that is good for vln works on the viola-we use our ginormous brains to GREAT effect.haha,hoho,hehe-in the words of the immortal stan & ollie.
anybody wishing to take issue with that,sports hall roof,4pm.i'll sort you out.
i could rant further,trust me,but i shall desist from my homer simpson moment...
such as it was.at 4.55am.
oh dear...
# Posted on June 7th 2004 by biggus dave
Re: dunnit
sorry,worzel-in last night's fervour i forgot the essence of your thread- i did have a 'moment' when for the very first time i got the merest hint of a little bit of 'swing' during a reel i was having a go at.i was so surprised i had to stop.
# Posted on June 8th 2004 by biggus dave