Hi all....
I was watching the Eurovison Songcontest in Istanbul yesterday and during the time the people could vote they had some (quite a few actually) dancers on stage. I must say what these dancers did was hard and fantastic work but why did they had to "copy and mix" Lord of the Dance and Riverdance???
I was sitting upstairs watching at the beginning of it and as I went downstairs to look at the rest of it and went into our livingroom my mum said: "Have you seen Michael Flatley yet?"
There were so many things in that dance that were definitly coming from Lord of the Dance and Riverdance. I know a lot of folkdancing looks like eachother but this was no doubt very strongly influenced by the irish dance shows. And to me it seemed a bit to much!
Is there anyone who's seen this aswell and how did you think of it?
Didn't Riverdance originate as an interlude piece for Eurovision, one of the many years when it was held in Ireland?
I don't know much about Turkish dancing, but I expect it would have a strong Islamic influence. It's a sad state of affairs, but at the present time, anything 'Irish' sells, anything 'Islamic' doesn't.
Yesterday I heard on the radio the tail-end of an interview with Terry Wogan. Apparently, the manager of a non-UK contestant had been furious at an (alleged) remark of Terry's that Eurovision music was crap, and the interviewer asked Terry for his comment. Terry thought for a moment and said "Are there people out there who are saying it isn't crap?"
For those non-UK members, Terry Wogan is a much-loved radio and TV presenter from Dublin who has been presenting the EVSC on UK radio and TV for the past 30-odd years and resolutely refuses to take any of it with the slightlest seriousness. In my view, Terry Wogan is the only reason for watching it.
Trevor
I agree totally with `IrishDancer`.I thought the `turkish tribute to Riverdance` was shambolic in one way ,as i`ve been in turkey and saw nothing like this in their traditional dancing,but appropriate in another way considering the long shadow Flatley&co. have cast over the Earth.Why not scrap these unimaginative `knickers off`,boyband songs and turn it into a Eurodance tournament?
Unfortunately, it's not even about the best of a bad lot of music(or should I say song) these days. Most of countries seem to vote for their neighbours, regardless of the song. The exception being with the UK because nobody likes us , anyway. . Norway didn't seem to fit into this pattern either; ie it didn't get the big vote from Sweden but a commentator said this was probably due to "whaling" issues. What ever happened to the music?
lol.... good replies! it was indeed crap. I watched the whole show (and gave the semi-finales a try but got fed up with all the singers who couldn't sing and all the stupid dancers) and it was nothing but a big bore. But it's tradition in our family to watch it so I was being a good girl and did so
I thought the UK and Ireland were doing well... nice song, nice look and not too much half-naked dancers. so 'hooray' for the UK and the Irish guys
It's a bit crass for Terry Wogan to slag of the Eurovision Song Contest, although I agree it's a pile of cack, I don't get paid vast sums of money to present it. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
Sarah, Serbo-Montenegran nose flute - very interesting, do you think it's funny cos it's not -. We're aiming for a different night at Shillelagh, let's hope it's a night you'll be able to attend.
See you soon
C
Who won it ?
I lost the will to live after the first contestant, switched off and sat staring at the wall for three hours. It was much more fun and productive.
The Ukraine! More to do with the semi-naked Xenas and their interesting and rather acrobatic dance routine than any musicality of note. Car crash TV at it's finest.
"Ruslana's winning song mixed folk music with a troupe of leather-clad female dancers.
Her song was inspired by the folk music and dances of highlanders in the Carpathian mountains and included traditional instruments, a fast dance routine mixed with acrobatic moves, as well as flamboyant costumes. "
I've got to admit Ruslana looked good but so did the Nolan Sisters in their day.
how are they going to get everyone who's competing the right papers. Apperently some reporter tried to go there to interview some people about the eurovision and it cost him loads of money to get into the country!
I was at a sesh in Ennis in 98 that Tola Custy and flute player Michel Bonamy were anchoring. We were playing jigs and Michel went into the Mist in the Meadow. We were all playing along 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 times through and people started dropping out wondering what was up with Michel. He was the last one playing eventually so we all looked at him and noticed he had the flute right under his nose and he had a big silly grin that you could see clearly right underneath the flute. This caused all of us to fall out of our chairs naturally. I have no idea how he did it, you couldn’t really hear that much difference.
Eurovision Songcontest
Eurovision Songcontest
Hi all....
I was watching the Eurovison Songcontest in Istanbul yesterday and during the time the people could vote they had some (quite a few actually) dancers on stage. I must say what these dancers did was hard and fantastic work but why did they had to "copy and mix" Lord of the Dance and Riverdance???
I was sitting upstairs watching at the beginning of it and as I went downstairs to look at the rest of it and went into our livingroom my mum said: "Have you seen Michael Flatley yet?"
There were so many things in that dance that were definitly coming from Lord of the Dance and Riverdance. I know a lot of folkdancing looks like eachother but this was no doubt very strongly influenced by the irish dance shows. And to me it seemed a bit to much!
Is there anyone who's seen this aswell and how did you think of it?
Leenke
# Posted on May 15th 2004 by Irishdancer
Re: Eurovision Songcontest
haven't seen it, but I guess it's natural for a commercial and big event like eurovision to have lord of the dance inside it
most ppl dont care you know.
# Posted on May 15th 2004 by Trip-
Re: Eurovision Songcontest
Didn't Riverdance originate as an interlude piece for Eurovision, one of the many years when it was held in Ireland?
I don't know much about Turkish dancing, but I expect it would have a strong Islamic influence. It's a sad state of affairs, but at the present time, anything 'Irish' sells, anything 'Islamic' doesn't.
# Posted on May 15th 2004 by CreadurMawnOrganig
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Yesterday I heard on the radio the tail-end of an interview with Terry Wogan. Apparently, the manager of a non-UK contestant had been furious at an (alleged) remark of Terry's that Eurovision music was crap, and the interviewer asked Terry for his comment. Terry thought for a moment and said "Are there people out there who are saying it isn't crap?"
For those non-UK members, Terry Wogan is a much-loved radio and TV presenter from Dublin who has been presenting the EVSC on UK radio and TV for the past 30-odd years and resolutely refuses to take any of it with the slightlest seriousness. In my view, Terry Wogan is the only reason for watching it.
Trevor
# Posted on May 15th 2004 by Trevor Jennings
Re: Eurovision Songcontest
I agree totally with `IrishDancer`.I thought the `turkish tribute to Riverdance` was shambolic in one way ,as i`ve been in turkey and saw nothing like this in their traditional dancing,but appropriate in another way considering the long shadow Flatley&co. have cast over the Earth.Why not scrap these unimaginative `knickers off`,boyband songs and turn it into a Eurodance tournament?
# Posted on May 15th 2004 by cos
Re: Eurovision Songcontest
Unfortunately, it's not even about the best of a bad lot of music(or should I say song) these days. Most of countries seem to vote for their neighbours, regardless of the song. The exception being with the UK because nobody likes us , anyway.
. Norway didn't seem to fit into this pattern either; ie it didn't get the big vote from Sweden but a commentator said this was probably due to "whaling" issues. What ever happened to the music?
# Posted on May 16th 2004 by John J.
Re: Eurovision Songcontest
I thought it was due to the "wailing" issues
# Posted on May 16th 2004 by Just a person
Re: Eurovision Songcontest
All I can say is....
Long live the Serbo-montenegran nose flute!!!
# Posted on May 16th 2004 by Sarah the Flute
Re: Eurovision Songcontest
lol.... good replies! it was indeed crap. I watched the whole show (and gave the semi-finales a try but got fed up with all the singers who couldn't sing and all the stupid dancers) and it was nothing but a big bore. But it's tradition in our family to watch it so I was being a good girl and did so

I thought the UK and Ireland were doing well... nice song, nice look and not too much half-naked dancers. so 'hooray' for the UK and the Irish guys
# Posted on May 16th 2004 by Irishdancer
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It's a bit crass for Terry Wogan to slag of the Eurovision Song Contest, although I agree it's a pile of cack, I don't get paid vast sums of money to present it. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
. We're aiming for a different night at Shillelagh, let's hope it's a night you'll be able to attend.
Sarah, Serbo-Montenegran nose flute - very interesting, do you think it's funny cos it's not -
See you soon
C
# Posted on May 16th 2004 by Cath
Re: Eurovision Songcontest
Who won it ?
I lost the will to live after the first contestant, switched off and sat staring at the wall for three hours. It was much more fun and productive.
# Posted on May 16th 2004 by Geoff Pollitt
Re: Eurovision Songcontest
The Ukraine! More to do with the semi-naked Xenas and their interesting and rather acrobatic dance routine than any musicality of note. Car crash TV at it's finest.
# Posted on May 17th 2004 by Conán McDonnell
Re: Eurovision Songcontest
"Ruslana's winning song mixed folk music with a troupe of leather-clad female dancers.

Her song was inspired by the folk music and dances of highlanders in the Carpathian mountains and included traditional instruments, a fast dance routine mixed with acrobatic moves, as well as flamboyant costumes. "
I've got to admit Ruslana looked good but so did the Nolan Sisters in their day.
# Posted on May 17th 2004 by John J.
Re: Eurovision Songcontest
Good Grief! The Ukraine won it?
I bet just EVERYONE'S looking forward to going over there for next year's bash already
...I'm just off to write their theme tune ...Hello to Tchernobyl.
Hope they like it
# Posted on May 17th 2004 by Geoff Pollitt
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how are they going to get everyone who's competing the right papers. Apperently some reporter tried to go there to interview some people about the eurovision and it cost him loads of money to get into the country!
# Posted on May 17th 2004 by Irishdancer
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Hmmm. So that's how they're financing it.
# Posted on May 17th 2004 by Conán McDonnell
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The nose flute came second..... honest I'm not making it up!
As for the Ukraine next year I bet they are already glowing with excitment!!! ...(Chemistry joke)
Good to hear it might migrate to a different night at Shillelaghs Cath I might make it there!
# Posted on May 17th 2004 by Sarah the Flute
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Ukraine? God gracious...
So, when you all be swarming next year to see the thing live, you can stay at my place. Not so far away, about 500 km, and the beer's better.
# Posted on May 17th 2004 by Janek
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What's the betting the the Ukraine's economy will nose-dive when they realise they're hosting the next EVSC?
Trevor
# Posted on May 17th 2004 by Trevor Jennings
Re: Eurovision Songcontest
Now you are reminding me of that Father Ted episode, and I need to laugh so hard I snort out my nose. Thanks a lot.
# Posted on May 18th 2004 by dances with swords
Nose flute dtory
I was at a sesh in Ennis in 98 that Tola Custy and flute player Michel Bonamy were anchoring. We were playing jigs and Michel went into the Mist in the Meadow. We were all playing along 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 times through and people started dropping out wondering what was up with Michel. He was the last one playing eventually so we all looked at him and noticed he had the flute right under his nose and he had a big silly grin that you could see clearly right underneath the flute. This caused all of us to fall out of our chairs naturally. I have no idea how he did it, you couldn’t really hear that much difference.
# Posted on May 18th 2004 by Phantom Button
Nose flute STORY even
Geesh!
# Posted on May 18th 2004 by Phantom Button