A saboteur of a sort has recently infiltrated our local session. The first time this gent appeared at he somehow managed to cart an electronic synthesizer and a Peavey amp into the pub, and proceeded to
Well, there's not a whole lot to be done about his badmouthing the session. If he thinks y'all are "unmusicianlike", there's nothing you can do about it; let him badmouth you, because eventually he'll dig his own grave (as well as giving himself a heartattack from stressing over it so much), and you know whether you're musicianlike or not. With the e-mails, though, send him a return message to cease and desist, and then if he doesn't, put a filter on your e-mail program to dump his vitriol straight into the trash and forget about him and his wish to make you submit to his viewpoint of the world.
If he thinks he can somehow "angry" you into letting him do whatever the hell he wants to your session in person, though, then someone is going to have to tell him to get a clue and go somewhere he's wanted. I mean, what kind of fun is that, going where you're not wanted? And what does he think is going to happen, if he keeps up all the anger y'all are suddenly going to wake up one morning and gasp, "Good heavens, he's been right all along!"?
If he turns violent, call the cops in, otherwise, if he insists on coming to the session and wrecking things for everyone, make sure everybody knows where you're going to de-camp to and leave him to his solo performance.
What you guys do with your session is up to you, and people who don't like it can go find somewhere else to play.
Better yet, forward his emails to all of those "unsubscribe" addresses on any spam you happen to have. His inbox will be deluged with new offers he can't resist...
Some people seem to truly believe that persisting in their annoying habits will win in the long run. There certainly is something to be said for determination and obstinacy in getting what you want, but few people are so brazenly inconsiderate as to put their own view above everyone else's. When these people come along, you might try to educate them, but more often than not it's a waste of effort. If their parents didn't teach 'em in the course of their lifetime, you're not likely to teach them in a couple of minutes...
Since your session is hosted by a pub, you can always talk to the pub management about keeping this guy out. No pub owner is going to want to let someone in who badmouths the goings-on at his establishment.
Oh geeezzzz... uh... gawd... *ahem* well... People like this have stopped into the Plough from time to time. Usually, in the past, (when I was shy and inexperienced,) we didn't know what to do and just waited it out. People like that will usually become board at some point and just stop coming. Whenever we tried to say something to them, no matter how diplomatically, it would often result with a sabotage campaign against the session. Then we had to ride it out and wait till it was all forgotten.
There was one person who was bullying people in the session, playing real loud on the piano, drowning out our regular guitar back-up player, and other back-up players that were taking turns. I finally had to sit in front of the piano to prevent this person from pushing people out of her way. (She was built like a football player ok) She would actually push people out of her way while they were playing; it was like bumper-car fiddlers. She was big all right, but I
It's not really the same thing as hijacking a session, but in the few months I've been joining in at our local, this is the one thing that p!ss3s me off the most: punters playing your instrument.
The most common one is: "can I have a go on your..." and sometimes you'll be inclined to say yes, if it's just your rusty old Clarke whistle and the person doing the asking is a rather fetching example of the opposite sex. Our Bodhran player pimps his goatskin out expressly for this purpose
But the worst was on St Pat's last week, when during a break in the tunage, I hopped up to go to fetch another Guinness or skip to the loo or summat, and when I got back some drunk bastard had sat himself down in my seat and was honking away on my favourite whistle.
So I says to him "Mate, playing another man's instrument is like shagging his wife. Put your hands where I can see them and step away from the whistle..."
So he sullenly puts the whistle down. And picks up my ruddy Low F!
"Dude," says I. "You're so doing it again."
And so on and so on...
"is *this* one yours?"
"Yes!"
"And *this* one?"
...until we ran out of instruments and he started saying things about Mormons.
In the end I had to punch his lights out, roll his unconscious body in bubblewrap, cover him in stamps and post him to Azerbaijan. Either that or he eventually got bored of everyone in the vicinity glaring at him and staggered off elsewhere.
My hat's off to you, guys. I think I'm starting to understand why rules are important in your neck of the woods. We simply wouldn't get that sort of behaviour here - it would be unAustralian (about the most condemning indictment to an Aussie).
The worst we get is people who start one tune, then another, then another, then another - and a (not so) subtle shout of 'let someone else have a go will yers!' normally cures that.
For any crime worse than that I'd definately agree with Jack's Irish pals - simply moving away works a treat. I've seen it done a few times to people who've started hogging the limelight a bit too much. Our session is pretty fluid anyway, so it's easy to simply get up and go talk to someone else. Once the perpetrator finds they're sitting in their own little well of loneliness they soon get the hint. Especially if the talk starts to get as loud as the 'music'.
Q.
I empathise. In my area there a few flute/whistle players who come to sessions without their instrument. What has happened to me is that someone will say will you let X play a tune and in the past I have given my flute over but not any more. Now I just say, sorry I've just had a flu, chest infection, infectious disease and don't want to pass it on. There are also some people who envy me my lovely Sam Murray and when I go to the loo, having left it resting on the table they pick it up and are merrily playing away on it on my return. Now I give it to someone with the instruction not to give it away or take it to the loo, which looks very odd, but who cares! Cannot understand why anyone would come to a session without their instrument anyway, can you.
I've had a similiar experence. I was at a session and this guy shows up with a base and amp and is not experenced at all in ITM and I tried to figure out if I was at a Rolling Stones concert or a session. Needless to say he didn't come back.
I don't really think that anyone in a session is being mean or ugly when they voice these opinions. I suppose to an outsider of ITM it could come across that Steve is sounding mean or unwelcoming. But its sort of like if I took my harp or fiddle down to a rock concert and wanted to jam with everyone there. Ah but sure no one would like it.
Nothing I can think of about the bad-mouthing except not taking it seriously.
But, have you ever considered making sure that no outlets are available for this loser's electric piano and amp? Try talking the owner of the place into "temporarily" covering the outlets with solid faceplates or plugging something "important" into all of them.
An electric piano is pretty quiet without an outlet.
It's always easier to be firm and stand your ground when someone is mean and nasty like SteveM's session wrecker. The hardest thing is trying to get a message across to someone who is a really nice person but a loud, messy player who totally mucks things up..........
SteveM - good luck getting rid of that loser. I'm sure he'll eventually get bored and move on. It's too bad some people behave like that.
I've lent my fiddle numerous times, but I'm always standing right there, ready to intervene if they decide to start shredding bow hairs, or I already know who the person is -- if someone has shown up without their fiddle (dropped in on their way from somewhere else, whatever) and especially if they're a better player than me, and I don't particularly have a need to play that night, I've lent it for the evening. I've even given (and gotten) an impromptu lesson or demonstration or two, out at a session, to people who say that they've always wanted to learn to play the fiddle.
But I'd agree with Joe, you wind players have a perfect right to refuse spreading/contracting contagion. And somebody using your instrument without asking permission is just asking for a crusty look and a polite request (in the middle of the tune) for your instrument back.
(Don't give up on other musos, Joe, not everybody's so dog-in-the-manger. Besides, who knows, maybe she was one of those people who feels she has a psychic bond with her drum and it would be like sharing a fork with a stranger...or maybe Dave's dog. Heh.)
Keep us updated, Steve. We'll be curious to see how it all pans out for you guys.
Not everyone is as warm, friendly and generous you are Joe. Then again, maybe the leotard put her off a bit! Or perhaps she is related to Jack's football playing sized keyboardist.
It's a shame to find that common courtesy is going by the wayside no matter where you are. It's just as easy to politely decline a request as it is to be rude.
I like Len's suggestion of covering electrical outlets for Steve, subtle and not rude. On my way to San Francisco to hear Jack, I'll stop in and offer a pint to you Steve. LaCrosse is a bit closer to Milwaukee than SF!
At our local session a girl turned up with a Djembe to "jam".She started thumping the bejasus out of it,and we had to stop because we couldn't hear each other.I pointed out to her that Djembes were made to send messages to the next village.She left in a huff,and we haven't seen her since.
Oh, I'd say these are extremes, Kysh. Most people who come to sessions as unknowns are generally quite nice and well-mannered. It's just that you get one too many of these and you start getting rather "wait and see" about people showing up that you don't know...one nice thing about some of these w*nkers, though, they DO provide one with some great stories...!
Why not organise to all either jointly or within a few minutes leave the session & let your " man " play "himself " out.
Organise among yourselves to either change the next night ( a day on or back ) or suspend the next night.
Ignore him, possibly maybe change to a different tune every time he latches on
Best of luck
J. B.
"Hey.. eh, sorry, fella, when ye wer out I just couldn't resist, nice a banjo you have there.. eh, yes, guitar, whatevva... so you do it like this don't ya?... Oups, sorry for that, but scratches just make it look more professional, don't they, hehe *belch*"
Was at a session, just watching, when a visitor to Ireland appeared with a contraption supposed to be spoons. A single centre handle and two spoons attached at a joint. He said they were real Irish spoons from Dublin. At the first break in the tunes since he had arrived and sat with the musicians, he asked them all loudly, "Do you guys know anything by Bruce Springsteen?" At the next set of tunes he banged the spoons like clackers with no sense of music whatsoever.
At the next break someone in the crowd immediately shouted out loud, Hey does anybody know anything by Uri Geller? The entire place erupted into laughter, then followed by cheers and applause. He got the message and put the spoons away.
Thanks for filling us in on how this episode played out (so far). So thesession.org works in a similar vein as Barry Foy's book on session etiquette, which has a quote up front from Martin Hayes saying, in part, "You need never again tread the delicate ground of explaining to a fellow musician how you think he or she is obstructing the session; instead offer them this book as a gift."
Now, if Mr. Foy's book isn't readily available in your town, you can simply send them to www.thesession.org, where they can read about themselves, as a "gift." Heh, heh. *cheshire grin*
Sometimes one simply HAS to be rude. I can't imagine someone I don't know picking up my guitar, banjo, or mandolin--I would smile, hold out my hand, sweetly recover my expensive instrument, put it away it its case, and then tell the interlope to "not to f_cking do that again ever!" I've also given spoon players the business on occasion, not being spectacularly rude, but telling them directly that this is an Irish session, not a free-for-all jam. I think some Americans make the mistake of not being specific enough as to this. Many of us want to be "nice," and many of us want to be "open" to personal expression. Well, sorry, this kind of musical anarchy will ruin a perfectly nice session in a New York minute. You have to have SOME rules, otherwise it's just not worth doing. If someone gets their nose out of joint because they're called on the carpet, or they get squeezed out of the circle, well, that's just life.
Haven't commented so far due to absence of things to add. One thing, though: none of my session mates would *ever* let some unknown person pick up one of my axes while I was out of sight. In fact, they'd probably punch out said offender before I ever got back to the table. It's worth letting one's mates know about the "hands off" rule so they can back it up in your absence.
Steve! Maybe when you guys come and visit me in chicago you can bring this guy with you. We could show him out to the "session" that takes place on the rocks along the lake. But seriously. I think you did the right thing in not escalating. Glad it turned out well!
How To Sabotage a Really Fine Session
How To Sabotage a Really Fine Session
A saboteur of a sort has recently infiltrated our local session. The first time this gent appeared at he somehow managed to cart an electronic synthesizer and a Peavey amp into the pub, and proceeded to
# Posted on March 23rd 2004 by SteveM
*sigh* Bummer.
Well, there's not a whole lot to be done about his badmouthing the session. If he thinks y'all are "unmusicianlike", there's nothing you can do about it; let him badmouth you, because eventually he'll dig his own grave (as well as giving himself a heartattack from stressing over it so much), and you know whether you're musicianlike or not. With the e-mails, though, send him a return message to cease and desist, and then if he doesn't, put a filter on your e-mail program to dump his vitriol straight into the trash and forget about him and his wish to make you submit to his viewpoint of the world.
If he thinks he can somehow "angry" you into letting him do whatever the hell he wants to your session in person, though, then someone is going to have to tell him to get a clue and go somewhere he's wanted. I mean, what kind of fun is that, going where you're not wanted? And what does he think is going to happen, if he keeps up all the anger y'all are suddenly going to wake up one morning and gasp, "Good heavens, he's been right all along!"?
If he turns violent, call the cops in, otherwise, if he insists on coming to the session and wrecking things for everyone, make sure everybody knows where you're going to de-camp to and leave him to his solo performance.
What you guys do with your session is up to you, and people who don't like it can go find somewhere else to play.
# Posted on March 23rd 2004 by Zina Lee
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Better yet, forward his emails to all of those "unsubscribe" addresses on any spam you happen to have. His inbox will be deluged with new offers he can't resist...
Some people seem to truly believe that persisting in their annoying habits will win in the long run. There certainly is something to be said for determination and obstinacy in getting what you want, but few people are so brazenly inconsiderate as to put their own view above everyone else's. When these people come along, you might try to educate them, but more often than not it's a waste of effort. If their parents didn't teach 'em in the course of their lifetime, you're not likely to teach them in a couple of minutes...
Since your session is hosted by a pub, you can always talk to the pub management about keeping this guy out. No pub owner is going to want to let someone in who badmouths the goings-on at his establishment.
# Posted on March 23rd 2004 by HighlandSun
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Oh geeezzzz... uh... gawd... *ahem* well... People like this have stopped into the Plough from time to time. Usually, in the past, (when I was shy and inexperienced,) we didn't know what to do and just waited it out. People like that will usually become board at some point and just stop coming. Whenever we tried to say something to them, no matter how diplomatically, it would often result with a sabotage campaign against the session. Then we had to ride it out and wait till it was all forgotten.
There was one person who was bullying people in the session, playing real loud on the piano, drowning out our regular guitar back-up player, and other back-up players that were taking turns. I finally had to sit in front of the piano to prevent this person from pushing people out of her way. (She was built like a football player ok) She would actually push people out of her way while they were playing; it was like bumper-car fiddlers. She was big all right, but I
# Posted on March 23rd 2004 by Phantom Button
Re: How To Sabotage a Really Fine Session
It's not really the same thing as hijacking a session, but in the few months I've been joining in at our local, this is the one thing that p!ss3s me off the most: punters playing your instrument.
The most common one is: "can I have a go on your..." and sometimes you'll be inclined to say yes, if it's just your rusty old Clarke whistle and the person doing the asking is a rather fetching example of the opposite sex. Our Bodhran player pimps his goatskin out expressly for this purpose
But the worst was on St Pat's last week, when during a break in the tunage, I hopped up to go to fetch another Guinness or skip to the loo or summat, and when I got back some drunk bastard had sat himself down in my seat and was honking away on my favourite whistle.
So I says to him "Mate, playing another man's instrument is like shagging his wife. Put your hands where I can see them and step away from the whistle..."
So he sullenly puts the whistle down. And picks up my ruddy Low F!
"Dude," says I. "You're so doing it again."
And so on and so on...
"is *this* one yours?"
"Yes!"
"And *this* one?"
...until we ran out of instruments and he started saying things about Mormons.
In the end I had to punch his lights out, roll his unconscious body in bubblewrap, cover him in stamps and post him to Azerbaijan. Either that or he eventually got bored of everyone in the vicinity glaring at him and staggered off elsewhere.
Hate that!
# Posted on March 23rd 2004 by Q
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My hat's off to you, guys. I think I'm starting to understand why rules are important in your neck of the woods. We simply wouldn't get that sort of behaviour here - it would be unAustralian (about the most condemning indictment to an Aussie).
The worst we get is people who start one tune, then another, then another, then another - and a (not so) subtle shout of 'let someone else have a go will yers!' normally cures that.
For any crime worse than that I'd definately agree with Jack's Irish pals - simply moving away works a treat. I've seen it done a few times to people who've started hogging the limelight a bit too much. Our session is pretty fluid anyway, so it's easy to simply get up and go talk to someone else. Once the perpetrator finds they're sitting in their own little well of loneliness they soon get the hint. Especially if the talk starts to get as loud as the 'music'.
# Posted on March 23rd 2004 by bc_box_player
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P.S. HighlandSun.. Love the idea of passing on his e-mail address to spammers. Evil. Truly, beautifully evil.
# Posted on March 23rd 2004 by bc_box_player
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Q.
I empathise. In my area there a few flute/whistle players who come to sessions without their instrument. What has happened to me is that someone will say will you let X play a tune and in the past I have given my flute over but not any more. Now I just say, sorry I've just had a flu, chest infection, infectious disease and don't want to pass it on. There are also some people who envy me my lovely Sam Murray and when I go to the loo, having left it resting on the table they pick it up and are merrily playing away on it on my return. Now I give it to someone with the instruction not to give it away or take it to the loo, which looks very odd, but who cares! Cannot understand why anyone would come to a session without their instrument anyway, can you.
# Posted on March 23rd 2004 by MollyB
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I've had a similiar experence. I was at a session and this guy shows up with a base and amp and is not experenced at all in ITM and I tried to figure out if I was at a Rolling Stones concert or a session. Needless to say he didn't come back.
I don't really think that anyone in a session is being mean or ugly when they voice these opinions. I suppose to an outsider of ITM it could come across that Steve is sounding mean or unwelcoming. But its sort of like if I took my harp or fiddle down to a rock concert and wanted to jam with everyone there. Ah but sure no one would like it.
Johnathan
# Posted on March 23rd 2004 by Harper_Lad
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Nothing I can think of about the bad-mouthing except not taking it seriously.
But, have you ever considered making sure that no outlets are available for this loser's electric piano and amp? Try talking the owner of the place into "temporarily" covering the outlets with solid faceplates or plugging something "important" into all of them.
An electric piano is pretty quiet without an outlet.
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by KeepFiddlin'
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I have had numerous people over the years come up to me during a break in a session/gig to ask me about the bodhr
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by Joe Quinn
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One way to deal with a punter who wants to play on your instrument is to say something about "the insurance doesn't allow it".
Trevor
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by Trevor Jennings
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It's always easier to be firm and stand your ground when someone is mean and nasty like SteveM's session wrecker. The hardest thing is trying to get a message across to someone who is a really nice person but a loud, messy player who totally mucks things up..........
SteveM - good luck getting rid of that loser. I'm sure he'll eventually get bored and move on. It's too bad some people behave like that.
Joyce
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by JMH
Hijack
I've lent my fiddle numerous times, but I'm always standing right there, ready to intervene if they decide to start shredding bow hairs, or I already know who the person is -- if someone has shown up without their fiddle (dropped in on their way from somewhere else, whatever) and especially if they're a better player than me, and I don't particularly have a need to play that night, I've lent it for the evening. I've even given (and gotten) an impromptu lesson or demonstration or two, out at a session, to people who say that they've always wanted to learn to play the fiddle.
Besides, who knows, maybe she was one of those people who feels she has a psychic bond with her drum and it would be like sharing a fork with a stranger...or maybe Dave's dog. Heh.)
But I'd agree with Joe, you wind players have a perfect right to refuse spreading/contracting contagion. And somebody using your instrument without asking permission is just asking for a crusty look and a polite request (in the middle of the tune) for your instrument back.
(Don't give up on other musos, Joe, not everybody's so dog-in-the-manger.
Keep us updated, Steve. We'll be curious to see how it all pans out for you guys.
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by Zina Lee
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Guys, Lordsakes, don't let me play when I'm drunk.
(Course I can drive I'm as jober as a sudge. this is nish. What ish it? Oh a reel! shorry)
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by Joe Quinn
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Not everyone is as warm, friendly and generous you are Joe. Then again, maybe the leotard put her off a bit! Or perhaps she is related to Jack's football playing sized keyboardist.
It's a shame to find that common courtesy is going by the wayside no matter where you are. It's just as easy to politely decline a request as it is to be rude.
I like Len's suggestion of covering electrical outlets for Steve, subtle and not rude. On my way to San Francisco to hear Jack, I'll stop in and offer a pint to you Steve. LaCrosse is a bit closer to Milwaukee than SF!
Deb.
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by Agnes Nutter
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HMmm Thanks Debwah, what do you suggest I wear?
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by Joe Quinn
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Well now, I've always been charmed by a man in a monkey suit!
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by Agnes Nutter
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Plus fours would be fun. ;)
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by Zina Lee
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At our local session a girl turned up with a Djembe to "jam".She started thumping the bejasus out of it,and we had to stop because we couldn't hear each other.I pointed out to her that Djembes were made to send messages to the next village.She left in a huff,and we haven't seen her since.
# Posted on March 1st 2003 by dafydd
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If you guys are having problems such as these, I can see why you're so picky.
I don't mind letting someone play my whistles or flutes, but whistles can get raucious in a hurry so I don't do it indoors ;>
As for the flutes, they're perfectly safe, as most people can't make a sound with them. ;>
I can't imagine trying someone's instrument without their assent.. that's hangable where I'm from...
-Kysh
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by Kysh
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Oh, I'd say these are extremes, Kysh. Most people who come to sessions as unknowns are generally quite nice and well-mannered. It's just that you get one too many of these and you start getting rather "wait and see" about people showing up that you don't know...one nice thing about some of these w*nkers, though, they DO provide one with some great stories...!
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by Zina Lee
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What's that Woody Allen quote, something about, Humor = Horror + Time ?
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by Zina Lee
Re: How To Sabotage a Really Fine Session
Why not organise to all either jointly or within a few minutes leave the session & let your " man " play "himself " out.
Organise among yourselves to either change the next night ( a day on or back ) or suspend the next night.
Ignore him, possibly maybe change to a different tune every time he latches on
Best of luck
J. B.
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by boorinwood
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"Hey.. eh, sorry, fella, when ye wer out I just couldn't resist, nice a banjo you have there.. eh, yes, guitar, whatevva... so you do it like this don't ya?... Oups, sorry for that, but scratches just make it look more professional, don't they, hehe *belch*"
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by Janek
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Was at a session, just watching, when a visitor to Ireland appeared with a contraption supposed to be spoons. A single centre handle and two spoons attached at a joint. He said they were real Irish spoons from Dublin. At the first break in the tunes since he had arrived and sat with the musicians, he asked them all loudly, "Do you guys know anything by Bruce Springsteen?" At the next set of tunes he banged the spoons like clackers with no sense of music whatsoever.
At the next break someone in the crowd immediately shouted out loud, Hey does anybody know anything by Uri Geller? The entire place erupted into laughter, then followed by cheers and applause. He got the message and put the spoons away.
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by Silver
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Having returned from the session this evening I thought I
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by SteveM
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Thanks for filling us in on how this episode played out (so far). So thesession.org works in a similar vein as Barry Foy's book on session etiquette, which has a quote up front from Martin Hayes saying, in part, "You need never again tread the delicate ground of explaining to a fellow musician how you think he or she is obstructing the session; instead offer them this book as a gift."
Now, if Mr. Foy's book isn't readily available in your town, you can simply send them to www.thesession.org, where they can read about themselves, as a "gift." Heh, heh. *cheshire grin*
# Posted on March 24th 2004 by Will Harmon
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Sometimes one simply HAS to be rude. I can't imagine someone I don't know picking up my guitar, banjo, or mandolin--I would smile, hold out my hand, sweetly recover my expensive instrument, put it away it its case, and then tell the interlope to "not to f_cking do that again ever!" I've also given spoon players the business on occasion, not being spectacularly rude, but telling them directly that this is an Irish session, not a free-for-all jam. I think some Americans make the mistake of not being specific enough as to this. Many of us want to be "nice," and many of us want to be "open" to personal expression. Well, sorry, this kind of musical anarchy will ruin a perfectly nice session in a New York minute. You have to have SOME rules, otherwise it's just not worth doing. If someone gets their nose out of joint because they're called on the carpet, or they get squeezed out of the circle, well, that's just life.
# Posted on March 26th 2004 by Audeamus
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Haven't commented so far due to absence of things to add. One thing, though: none of my session mates would *ever* let some unknown person pick up one of my axes while I was out of sight. In fact, they'd probably punch out said offender before I ever got back to the table. It's worth letting one's mates know about the "hands off" rule so they can back it up in your absence.
chris smith
# Posted on March 26th 2004 by coyotebanjo
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Steve! Maybe when you guys come and visit me in chicago you can bring this guy with you. We could show him out to the "session" that takes place on the rocks along the lake. But seriously. I think you did the right thing in not escalating. Glad it turned out well!
# Posted on March 26th 2004 by Brendan