Currently about to learn the reel Maid Behind the Bar.
My tunebook (one of Mallinson Music's) lists it as Trim The Velvet, with Maid Behind The Bar as an alternative and has it in G.
thesession has Maid Behind the Bar as a reel in D!
But it does appear to be the right tune.
Trim the Velvet seems to be a totally different tune according to both thesession and youtube.
So, I guess my book is wrong on the name. But should it be in G or D?
Well, just had a second look and the tune in my book seems to be neither :/
Maybe I should just chuck that book!
I found it here: http://www.slowplayers.org/MPSP/pdf/MPSP_Reels.pdf
Seems to be the version I have heard played, so I will learn it in D then.
Thanks.
D. One of the first tunes I tried to learn the day I bought my first box a few years ago.
You must have on of those 'Favorite Session Tune" books with the pretty cottage picture on the cover.
The advice here is good. Ditch the books. Those books, if they get the title right have the tune screwed up. Or usually title and tune are messed up! And then there are the books that give you the chords.
If you must use books (and there is good academic reason to have them around), get the O'Neils and the Roche collections. Another good one is the Paddy O'Briens Sets.
"I'm confusd by your motive. You want to learn a particular tune, but you don't know which tune it is?"
I wanted to learn a new tune, looked up a list of popular session tunes (on this site), found Maid Behind the Bar, noticed it was in my tunebook, tried to play it, found it on youtube, realised it was a different song.
Hence, confusion.
With respect ... the idea that you'll choose a tune to learn because it's on some stranger's spurious list that you've found on an internet chat room may have something to do with you not having any mates.
Yes, LLig got all his inspiration by divine iintervention, standing on the mount. Anything less, such as believing the advice of people on this board and their list of standard tunes everyone should know, shows lack of motivation, weakness of character, and is clearly a symptom of why one has no mates.
For gods sake llig, haven't you discouraged enough beginners for one year? Give the person a break.
Michael, that last one's beneath you. I normally agree with the vast majority of what you say. Personal insults to absolute beginners are totally unnecessary.
"With respect ... the idea that you'll choose a tune to learn because it's on some stranger's spurious list that you've found on an internet chat room may have something to do with you not having any mates."
I have plenty of mates, but thanks for the concern.
I'm not sure where I said I didn't have any friends either.
Thing is, I have friends who play rock/pop, friends who play death metal, even more friends who listen to these types of music but don't play, friends who play traditional ballads, friends who listen to traditional ballads but don't play, friends who listen to traditional tunes.
But no friends who play traditional tunes (yet) - what a loner I must be.
Njal, as someone who's maybe 0.1 steps away from a beginner, can I say that this forum is full of good advice if you can take the slagging as well. Especially the anti-guitar stuff.
This time? ... This time I didn't post anything that was deleted. Which is a pleasant change. People can judge for themselves whether it deserved a two week dog house. And they can reply with disgust if that's how they feel. Surely there's no need for censorship?
So ... someone posts a discussion saying basically that when they choose tunes to learn, they don't discriminate between where tunes come from. They just learn tunes they like. And quite rightly, they get near universal approval.
Then, in a perfectly succinct example of the crazy zoo that this place is, the same poster asks about a tune he wants to learn that he doesn't even know how it goes?
And OK, so I can't resist a quip. And yeah yeah is was a below-the-belt quip. But come on now? Look at the bigger picture.
There was universal agreement to ditch the tune books and the OP replied that he'd, "not got any friends who play this music."
Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Currently about to learn the reel Maid Behind the Bar.
My tunebook (one of Mallinson Music's) lists it as Trim The Velvet, with Maid Behind The Bar as an alternative and has it in G.
thesession has Maid Behind the Bar as a reel in D!
But it does appear to be the right tune.
Trim the Velvet seems to be a totally different tune according to both thesession and youtube.
So, I guess my book is wrong on the name. But should it be in G or D?
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by Njal
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Our session always plays it in D
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by beltane
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
It's in D
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by Earl Cameron
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Well, just had a second look and the tune in my book seems to be neither :/
Maybe I should just chuck that book!
I found it here:
http://www.slowplayers.org/MPSP/pdf/MPSP_Reels.pdf
Seems to be the version I have heard played, so I will learn it in D then.
Thanks.
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by Njal
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
The Maid Behind The Bar is in D.
Another tune rather like it - near enough to have confused me in the past, anyway - is The Green Mountain, also in D.
Trim The Velvet is quite different.
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by nicholas
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Ditch the books all together and learn it by ear from a friend playing it.
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by Will Harmon
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
D
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by one nation under chicken
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
What Will said.
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by timmy!
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
D. One of the first tunes I tried to learn the day I bought my first box a few years ago.
You must have on of those 'Favorite Session Tune" books with the pretty cottage picture on the cover.
The advice here is good. Ditch the books. Those books, if they get the title right have the tune screwed up. Or usually title and tune are messed up! And then there are the books that give you the chords.
If you must use books (and there is good academic reason to have them around), get the O'Neils and the Roche collections. Another good one is the Paddy O'Briens Sets.
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by zippydw
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
I forgot. The Comhaltas collection is good.
RIP Bannerman.
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by zippydw
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
The books are those "Music of Ireland" ones.
Not got any friends who play this music so I tend to learn from books and youtube.
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by Njal
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Whatever. As long as their's no confusion over my drink order, the maid can do whatever she wants.
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by Jimmy B
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
"My tunebook (one of Mallinson Music's) lists it as Trim The Velvet, with Maid Behind The Bar as an alternative and has it in G."
Kiss The Maid Behind The Barrel http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/676 is closely related to Trim The Velvet http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/1142 . Perhaps this is where the confusion has arisen.
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by CreadurMawnOrganig
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
I'm confusd by your motive. You want to learn a particular tune, but you don't know which tune it is?
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by ...
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
"You want to learn a particular tune, but you don't know which tune it is?" LOL!
"As long as there is no confusion over my drink order, the maid can do whatever she wants" I will drink to that.
Laurence
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by fauxcelt
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
"I'm confusd by your motive. You want to learn a particular tune, but you don't know which tune it is?"
I wanted to learn a new tune, looked up a list of popular session tunes (on this site), found Maid Behind the Bar, noticed it was in my tunebook, tried to play it, found it on youtube, realised it was a different song.
Hence, confusion.
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by Njal
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
With respect ... the idea that you'll choose a tune to learn because it's on some stranger's spurious list that you've found on an internet chat room may have something to do with you not having any mates.
# Posted on September 1st 2010 by ...
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Yes, LLig got all his inspiration by divine iintervention, standing on the mount. Anything less, such as believing the advice of people on this board and their list of standard tunes everyone should know, shows lack of motivation, weakness of character, and is clearly a symptom of why one has no mates.
For gods sake llig, haven't you discouraged enough beginners for one year? Give the person a break.
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by ayedbl
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Michael, that last one's beneath you. I normally agree with the vast majority of what you say. Personal insults to absolute beginners are totally unnecessary.
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by bc_box_player
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Njal, welcome to the session.org. You have just undergone an important rite of passage.
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Yeah, and it's in D.
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Wow, you guys rally whacked Llig's nose with the rolled up newspaper, eh? [whistles]
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Never heard it in any key but D
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by AlBrown
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
"With respect ... the idea that you'll choose a tune to learn because it's on some stranger's spurious list that you've found on an internet chat room may have something to do with you not having any mates."
I have plenty of mates, but thanks for the concern.
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by Njal
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Good comeback, Njal!
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by AlBrown
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
The Maid Behind the Bar is in D and is a 2 part tune
Trim The Velvet is in G and is a 3 part tune
neither of them are songs.
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by gooseinthenettles
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
"Good comeback, Njal!"
I'm not sure where I said I didn't have any friends either.
Thing is, I have friends who play rock/pop, friends who play death metal, even more friends who listen to these types of music but don't play, friends who play traditional ballads, friends who listen to traditional ballads but don't play, friends who listen to traditional tunes.
But no friends who play traditional tunes (yet) - what a loner I must be.
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by Njal
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Thanks for all the replies.
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by Njal
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Here's your Difference -- Njal
The Maid Behind The Bar
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/64
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Trim The Velvet
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/1142
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CreadurMawnOrganig-
Post - < Kiss,, The Maid Behind The Barrel >
I think Too, Is where your Confused,
jim,,,
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by FIDDLE4
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Isn't The Maid Behind the Bar traditionally followed by The Glass of Beer ?
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by Guernsey Pete
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Njal,
Try this;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/r2music/folk/sessions/swf/01.html
Whoa! Dots and sound combined!
The second tune in the set might be whay your looking for and be of some help.
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by Gran Cassa
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Often followed by The Clumsy Lover around closing time Pete
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by Bren
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Michael Gill is so laughably contemptible it's unreal.
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by Jams_O'Donnell
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
.....yeah, roll on the 16th
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by domhnall.
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
.........meanwhile, iiiiiiiiiiiiit's (in rising pitch and volume) Numpty Time !
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by domhnall.
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Njal, as someone who's maybe 0.1 steps away from a beginner, can I say that this forum is full of good advice if you can take the slagging as well. Especially the anti-guitar stuff.
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by harmonic miner
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
What did Michael do this time?
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by DrSilverSpear
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
He was being himself.
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
"Especially the anti-guitar stuff."
I've kept that secret hidden so far, lol.
I'm a guitar player branching out into mandolin tune playing.
# Posted on September 2nd 2010 by Njal
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
This time? ... This time I didn't post anything that was deleted. Which is a pleasant change. People can judge for themselves whether it deserved a two week dog house. And they can reply with disgust if that's how they feel. Surely there's no need for censorship?
So ... someone posts a discussion saying basically that when they choose tunes to learn, they don't discriminate between where tunes come from. They just learn tunes they like. And quite rightly, they get near universal approval.
Then, in a perfectly succinct example of the crazy zoo that this place is, the same poster asks about a tune he wants to learn that he doesn't even know how it goes?
And OK, so I can't resist a quip. And yeah yeah is was a below-the-belt quip. But come on now? Look at the bigger picture.
There was universal agreement to ditch the tune books and the OP replied that he'd, "not got any friends who play this music."
# Posted on September 16th 2010 by ...
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Sorry I missed your below the belt quip. Would you mind repeating it?
# Posted on September 16th 2010 by leoj
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
http://www.thesession.org/discussions/display.php/25443/comments#comment535870
# Posted on September 16th 2010 by ...
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
You got suspended for that? I thought it was funny. That's why I asked -- I didn't think that comment suspension-worthy but then no one's askin' me.
# Posted on September 17th 2010 by DrSilverSpear
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
It was a bit snarky, but I have seen worse.
# Posted on September 17th 2010 by AlBrown
Re: Maid Behind The Bar confusion
Yeah, it was pretty much using a 9mm to swat a fly.
# Posted on September 17th 2010 by SWFL Fiddler