There was a comment a little while ago on the (not-so) sean-nós dancing in the Oireachtas finals ... and that's been about it for ages. This is a great site for discussing Irish music and *what* to play for dancing, but there's precious little about the dancing itself.
Does anyone know of any good sites/forums where Irish (and/or other trad/folk dancing) is discussed in a knowlegeable way. I don't mean the "can I use sock glue on my wig?" kind of question - or dancing - but something with a bit more meat to it. Right now, I want to ask the question: "Anyone ever noticed the similarities between Basque footwork and Irish steps?"
The very best wig glue is SyrupStik followed closely by Hair Hat Araldite. Don't use sock glue.
Have I ever mentioned my collection of hot water bottles of the famous? I have Matt Munro's 1959 pink rubber Snugglebunnie.
Yes but the results are disasterous!
Even the most commited perook wearer wants to remove it in the toilet for instance (esp when puking) and Super Glue is just too...er!?...super.
I found a French Yahoo Group. I don't read French, maybe you can. http://www.attchoo-dtw.com/
Groupe de discussion des adhérents et/ou élèves de l'association Attchoo-Dancin'the World. Pour partager des informations, des avis, des suggestions sur les événements (stages, cours, festivals...) ayant trait à toute forme de danse.
Straight off, these dances may not look much like Irish step dancing, but when you compare them to the more widespread "normal" French dances, the characteristics they share with Irish are more noticeable. The music's more fun to play too.
That dancecallerlist looks to be the most like what I'm looking for ... but I haven't got a Yahoo ID so can't access it properly.
Like being a human stereo playing a 33 1/3 on 45. Ya minus well paste a "Play" and "Stop" button on yer forehead.
That's for set dancers.
For the girls with the curls, it's like like being a human stereo playing a 45 on 33 1/3. Ya minus well paste a "Play" and "Stop" button on yer forehead.
OK, that was the cranky musician knee-jerk answer. Now for something (hopefully) more enlightened.
Playing for dancers is something all musicians should do at least once, for both types of dancers too. It's a great learning experience which really displays the connection to the original source of the music, dance.
However, and this may actually get back to the original post a bit, as to why the musicians on here speak so little of dance, playing for dancers is just that, playing FOR dancers.
Musicians like playing FOR themselves best of all, so...2+2=...
Long time since I have been on here.. but both types of dancers? Last I checked there were more than two types of dancers in ITM?
As for the step dancers... what is with the wigs and the outfits that they are wearing these days? Not that they should have to go back to the boring outfits of the 1970s... but the current ones just well.. look scary.
I used to be a set dancer, but I'm hard pushed to get even one other partner for a two-hand reel 'round these parts ... but for all that I miss set and céilí dancing, I'm inclined to agree with the Play-Stop opinion as regards the music. These days, I alternate between playing and dancing, and the traditional French dances give both dancers and musicians the opportunity for mutual satisfaction that doesn't seem to be there in Irish dancing. I think the sean-nós style lends itself much more to a healthy two-way relationship.
Rambler
I might be giving some set dance classes in Anger in the spring interested ?
( wow what an opening for a plug )
I dont agree with the play -stop opinion as its play stop start play stop start play stop start not much difference to a normal session anyway.
Angers is a bit of a long haul for me. 'Twould depend on the terms and conditions! ... and the date. As soon as you've got an idea of the arrangements, drop me an e-mail and I'll see if it's feasible.
I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
There was a comment a little while ago on the (not-so) sean-nós dancing in the Oireachtas finals ... and that's been about it for ages. This is a great site for discussing Irish music and *what* to play for dancing, but there's precious little about the dancing itself.
- but something with a bit more meat to it. Right now, I want to ask the question: "Anyone ever noticed the similarities between Basque footwork and Irish steps?"
Does anyone know of any good sites/forums where Irish (and/or other trad/folk dancing) is discussed in a knowlegeable way. I don't mean the "can I use sock glue on my wig?" kind of question - or dancing
# Posted on November 16th 2009 by CelticRambler
Wig Glue Question.
The very best wig glue is SyrupStik followed closely by Hair Hat Araldite. Don't use sock glue.
Have I ever mentioned my collection of hot water bottles of the famous? I have Matt Munro's 1959 pink rubber Snugglebunnie.
# Posted on November 16th 2009 by yhaalhouse
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
Has anyone ever tried Super Glue for this purpose?
# Posted on November 16th 2009 by DrSilverSpear
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
Yes but the results are disasterous!
Even the most commited perook wearer wants to remove it in the toilet for instance (esp when puking) and Super Glue is just too...er!?...super.
# Posted on November 16th 2009 by yhaalhouse
A case of disastrous spelling methink!
# Posted on November 16th 2009 by yhaalhouse
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
There's always http://www.setdancingnews.net/.
# Posted on November 16th 2009 by MacCruiskeen
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
I found a French Yahoo Group. I don't read French, maybe you can. http://www.attchoo-dtw.com/
Groupe de discussion des adhérents et/ou élèves de l'association Attchoo-Dancin'the World. Pour partager des informations, des avis, des suggestions sur les événements (stages, cours, festivals...) ayant trait à toute forme de danse.
# Posted on November 16th 2009 by Ben Steen
http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/attchoo_dancin/
This is the sites' forum link.
# Posted on November 16th 2009 by Ben Steen
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
Never seen any Basque dancing have you any you tube clips ?
( lets not lower the tone but showing clip of ladies wearing a basque what ever that is )
# Posted on November 16th 2009 by bazouki dave
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
I am curious as to what underwear I thought it optional
?
# Posted on November 16th 2009 by bazouki dave
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
Those set dancers are such a wild bunch!
# Posted on November 16th 2009 by Ben Steen
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
http://sites.google.com/site/dancecallerlist/
# Posted on November 17th 2009 by ceolachan
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
For bazouki dave,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZf5XxNJlA8 - Arin-Arin, "dressed up" to be a bit mediaeval-looking,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTKNAKINASs - same dance done in tradition costume.
http://zapatosardientes.canalblog.com/archives/2006/05/07/4642953.html - webpage (in French) with numerous videos showing the typical Basque "céilí" dances.
Straight off, these dances may not look much like Irish step dancing, but when you compare them to the more widespread "normal" French dances, the characteristics they share with Irish are more noticeable. The music's more fun to play too.
That dancecallerlist looks to be the most like what I'm looking for ... but I haven't got a Yahoo ID so can't access it properly.
# Posted on November 17th 2009 by CelticRambler
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
just wondering, but whats it like to play for dancers?
# Posted on November 17th 2009 by steve...r
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
I love playing for dancers. It's a great source of dialogue.
# Posted on November 17th 2009 by Tirno
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
Like being a human stereo playing a 33 1/3 on 45. Ya minus well paste a "Play" and "Stop" button on yer forehead.
That's for set dancers.
For the girls with the curls, it's like like being a human stereo playing a 45 on 33 1/3. Ya minus well paste a "Play" and "Stop" button on yer forehead.
# Posted on November 17th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
OK, that was the cranky musician knee-jerk answer. Now for something (hopefully) more enlightened.
Playing for dancers is something all musicians should do at least once, for both types of dancers too. It's a great learning experience which really displays the connection to the original source of the music, dance.
However, and this may actually get back to the original post a bit, as to why the musicians on here speak so little of dance, playing for dancers is just that, playing FOR dancers.
Musicians like playing FOR themselves best of all, so...2+2=...
# Posted on November 17th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
Long time since I have been on here.. but both types of dancers? Last I checked there were more than two types of dancers in ITM?
As for the step dancers... what is with the wigs and the outfits that they are wearing these days? Not that they should have to go back to the boring outfits of the 1970s... but the current ones just well.. look scary.
# Posted on November 17th 2009 by bill_mchale
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
You could of course lean to dance yourself Steve.
Its great fun espicially Set Dancing.
I believe it also helps with your timing in playing tunes
# Posted on November 17th 2009 by bazouki dave
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Hi Bill, SWFL here and my odd sense of humor.
Yes, two kinds:
1. Couples dancing sets
2. Not couples dancing sets
Now you chuckle and smile. Cheers!
# Posted on November 17th 2009 by SWFL Fiddler
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
I used to be a set dancer, but I'm hard pushed to get even one other partner for a two-hand reel 'round these parts ...
but for all that I miss set and céilí dancing, I'm inclined to agree with the Play-Stop opinion as regards the music. These days, I alternate between playing and dancing, and the traditional French dances give both dancers and musicians the opportunity for mutual satisfaction that doesn't seem to be there in Irish dancing. I think the sean-nós style lends itself much more to a healthy two-way relationship.
# Posted on November 18th 2009 by CelticRambler
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
Rambler
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I might be giving some set dance classes in Anger in the spring interested ?
( wow what an opening for a plug
I dont agree with the play -stop opinion as its play stop start play stop start play stop start not much difference to a normal session anyway.
# Posted on November 18th 2009 by bazouki dave
Re: I'm a dancer, let me out of here!
Angers is a bit of a long haul for me. 'Twould depend on the terms and conditions!
... and the date. As soon as you've got an idea of the arrangements, drop me an e-mail and I'll see if it's feasible.
# Posted on November 24th 2009 by CelticRambler